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281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 07:40:15 PM
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Japan really cares about the cleanliness of its toilets but "transparent toilets" are a crazy idea there.



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We have transparent toilets in the West too, but without colored glass to make it easier to look into them.




282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 06:54:50 PM
I deleted my post, but decided to repost this "proper use of toilets" sign.



The previous pic was much better IMHO...

We have something similar in the West.







283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 06:41:05 PM
I deleted my post, but decided to repost this "proper use of toilets" sign.



You’re telling me I’ve been doing it wrong the whole time? ...

Yes, they even sell warning stickers on amazon.



https://www.amazon.com/Bathroom-Stickers-Personalized-Pictures-Cabinets/dp/B09MKM1CJV
284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 03:02:12 PM
I deleted my post, but decided to repost this "proper use of toilets" sign.



I have only ever seen such signs in Japan in places where a lot of non-Japanese are... I wonder why  Roll Eyes

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It's probably because of how westerners use gas station toilets.

285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 02:49:02 PM
I deleted my post, but decided to repost this "proper use of toilets" sign.

286  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 15, 2023, 04:43:21 AM
They move from chem trails to moon landing conspiracies...its just insane and impossible to have a sane discussion with them.

They refuse to listen to facts and use due diligence to do a fact check and just fall back on layers of logical fallacies.

I've dealt with a few and have just given up and cut ties and wish I had done it sooner and not wasted my time in the first place.



TLDR: I agree get way quick there is no hope for them when they start evangelizing.

I have a first cousin like that. Very smart, high IQ, but you just can't reason with him. There is no hope. Best course of action is to agree to disagree, keep contact to a minimum and move on.
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287  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 06:31:25 PM
Someone's just invented a bike with square wheels.

https://gizmodo.com/square-wheeled-bicycle-bike-pedal-tank-wheels-the-q-1850332349

288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 05:28:59 PM
... if you remind yourself how many people still believe in $$$ (fiat) for such a long time on this planet, the a$$hole-to-bitcoiner ratio turns out clearly in their favour "favour".
Opinions are not facts ...



Lol, The amount of times this has literally happened to me.
These days I swing much more to the right.

289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 04:00:00 PM
... if you remind yourself how many people still believe in $$$ (fiat) for such a long time on this planet, the a$$hole-to-bitcoiner ratio turns out clearly in their favour "favour".
Opinions are not facts ...

290  Economy / Speculation / Re: American IQ Scores Have Rapidly Dropped, Proving the 'Reverse Flynn Effect' on: April 14, 2023, 07:40:35 AM
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Americans’ IQ scores are trending in a downward direction. In fact, they’ve been falling for over a decade.

According to a press release, in studying intelligence testing data from 2006 to 2018, Northwestern University researchers noticed that test scores in three out of four “cognitive domains” were going down. This is the first time we’ve seen a consistent negative slope for these testing categories, providing tangible evidence of what is known as the “Reverse Flynn Effect.”

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a43469569/american-iq-scores-decline-reverse-flynn-effect/


Yup its official.

291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 14, 2023, 12:43:38 AM
I don't really get why tether is criticized, especially for use in developing countries and/or Asia.
It has a place, especially since USDC temporarily de-pegged and lost almost 26% of it's monetary base.
72 to 43 was competitive, 81 to 32 is lopsided in tether's favor.
USDC had a clout of being "official", but now it kind of dispelled to a degree.

292  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 13, 2023, 07:24:18 AM
293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 12, 2023, 12:56:48 AM
Beras are starting to sweat.

Keep hodling steady, lads.

294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 09:38:16 AM
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and no known price for easter 2010. close we have is bitcoin pizza day for a spring 2010 price I think.

may 22 , 2010

10,000 coins for 1 pizza.

I could get a pizza for 10 dollars in 2011 so 1/10 of a cent would be the may 22, 2010 price.


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The deal was for two pizzas, so that's roughly 20 dollars.

I'll pay 10,000 bitcoins for a couple of pizzas.. like maybe 2 large ones so I have some left over for the next day.

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However, lazlo could have got $41USD for them if he had sold them on the bitcoinmarket exchange on May 18, 2010.

10,000... Thats quite a bit.. you could sell those on https://www.bitcoinmarket.com/ for $41USD right now..
good luck on getting your free pizza.


BitcoinFX says there were private trades of bitcoins to goods before the pizzas. The pizzas were just the first public goods trade.

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Bitcoins early history on the wiki is truly very patchy TBH, because those wiki pages were created mainly by people after the events. The first trades for goods and/or services were not the now infamous Pizzas! I remember buying US postage stamps from NewLibertyStandard before Laszlo posted the Pizza trade. I suspect that other trades also took place before that time, they were just not made publicly.

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NewLibertyStandard was selling physical stuff for bitcoins through a shop on his website on Feb 09 2010.

Welcome to the Liberty Swap Specialty Shop!
We Ship Internationally!
295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 08:23:26 AM
Regardless.... off to see John Wick 4 this weekend.

John Wick, bitstamp wick
Weak wick week, springin' in spring?
Lifeline for Deutsche Bank?




#haiku

Seen wick yesterday….




Now I’m here… where is it….?? Let’s play


Jaywick Sands.
296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 02:02:02 AM






297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 01:10:37 AM
298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 12:59:57 AM
299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2023, 12:34:02 AM
2010: $0.09 on July 17  but easter was 04 April. still can't find a price for it.

2011: $0.77 on April 1. easter was 24 April. I  found a price for $1.65 on this site https://bitcoinpricelookup.com/bitcoin-price-on-april-24-2011/
Looking for better info than I found
I just checked the historic Bitcoin chart on BuyBitcoinWorldwide and it gives me the following data:

4th April 2010: no data (it starts on 19th July, 2010). I just found this for 2010:

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How Much was 1 Bitcoin Worth in 2010? Bitcoin's price never topped $1 in 2010! Its highest price for the year was just $0.39!
24th April 2011: $1.70

However, not sure if this price is accurate.
So either $1.65 or $1.70 for easter 2011.

and no known price for easter 2010. close we have is bitcoin pizza day for a spring 2010 price I think.

may 22 , 2010
10,000 coins for 1 pizza.

I could get a pizza for 10 dollars in 2011 so 1/10 of a cent would be the may 22, 2010 price.

https://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-pizza-day-celebrating-20-million-pizza-order/

Now the guy who got 10000 coins on may 22 could have sold them on July 9 for 900 usd.

as btc was 9 cents in July on mt gox.

he would end up regretting that if it is what he did.

I like to use Bitcoincharts.com to try to pinpoint historical BTC price data, even though there might not have had been an exchange that had any price on Easter in 2010 as you mentioned, and even the bitcoin charts seem to NOT start to show MTGOX price information until September 2011.

NewLibertyStandard ran an early bitcoin exchange from his site and put the exchange rate here.

http://newlibertystandard.wetpaint.com/page/Exchange+Rate

People made snapshots of it. Here's some early ones.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100301174241/http://newlibertystandard.wetpaint.com:80/page/Exchange+Rate



https://web.archive.org/web/20100628150819/http://newlibertystandard.wetpaint.com/page/Exchange%2BRate



BitcoinFX ran another early bitcoin exchange.

I ran the '2nd' known Bitcoin <> fiat exchange service, using Liberty Reserve (now defunct - with my totally legally earned Forex trading funds being 'confiscated' when LR was shut down).

I had a basic website with contact information and a simple pricing widget, but the few successful trades I conducted were all manual and done via email. I certainly did not accept credit cards either and none of the trades I conducted totalled more than $10 in fiat value, at that time.

Before the BitcoinMarket exchange was established, there was someone in the US who made exchanges by accepting cash in the mail. I don't recall who that was and I think they also deleted most of their post history.

I just checked the way back machine archive and no copies of my website exist during the time it was online, which was for less than a few months, probably. I used a free .cc.cz domain with my forum account name. It was hosted for free on weebly.


There are waybackmachine snapshots of it. This is the earliest one. It says "Our maximum Exchange per request is currently 2500 BTC or $10 LR USD" on the homepage.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100617031313/http://www.bitcoinfx.cz.cc/

This is all the snapshots on the waybackmachine. The second one says "Available Bitcoins = 15,000 BTC".

https://web.archive.org/web/20100601000000*/http://www.bitcoinfx.cz.cc/

Thanks for correcting me on Bitcoin's history. I thought Bitcoin Market was the second exchange. You should be in the history books (and in the wiki).

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The data for the NewLibertyStandard snapshots came from here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120130064803/http://numsum.com/spreadsheet/show_plain/110566?null

Here's the maximum and minimum daily trading rates it shows for quite a few months from March 2010 to June 2010.

300  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2023, 09:19:54 AM
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