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281  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: November 27, 2014, 02:59:57 AM
Chance of a lifetime. Cheap coins on Cryptsy  :D

This came up as content of my paper.li: http://bitcoinfansite.com/2014/11/26/comprehensive-list-cryptogenic-bullion-mining-pools/
Only, no miningpools listed. I think he's just starting to develop the section.

Casheer's CEO on Bitcoin, Altcoins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlw6x3zDzCc&feature=youtu.be

One big issue at the moment....Liquidity!

Another big issue. Core team community involvement.

Xorcist
Redphlegm
Artiface
Larryhardcore
Raizor!


Where art thou?

Bitcointalk may not need to be the centre of the cryptosphere for CB, but this is where we were born and our family resides here. So speak up core members! A few words now and again, maybe, just to let us know you are still there?

The long awaited new client is going to be a great confidence boost for CB, and from what I know of it, it doesn't disappoint in all aspects.  ;)

Fear not. Exciting times are coming for CB nevertheless.  
282  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: November 25, 2014, 02:39:23 AM
Enlightenment of the Blockchain Masters
Brian Vereschagin

November 2014 Issue of Cryptobiz Magazine

If wisdom was easy to come by, we might be colonizing space by now. We have been conditioned to believe that this higher intelligence is beyond the average person, and allow ourselves to go through endless cycles of ignorance and destruction. It is important for us to open our mind to the possibilities of our own psychology and the world it may create. We will use a scientific method of exploration to allow each of us a chance to listen quietly for experience that cannot be told.

Exploring the relationship between the blockchain and the real world is a primary concern to the CryptoTown On The Ground project. This project grew out of the consultancy culture in practice amongst the community of its primary supporter, Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB), a crypto committed to higher-level thinking. The intent of this article is to empower each individual to  participate in meaningful collaboration, a challenge for so many reasons, as we will attempt to explore.

The blockchain phenomenon introduced itself through the release of Bitcoin (BTC), a global digital currency with no central point of control. The functionality of the central bank has been replaced by a network-based, cryptographically secured currency. To sweep aside of our debt based, centrally planned currencies, is only the first, most obvious opportunity. Blockchain technology has a much bigger role to play, in a much bigger story, than most would ever dream.

The effects of pervasive deception and exploitation can be seen throughout nature. This is a primary reason why blockchain based consensus is so important to building a society that deserves our trust. It seems that every opportunity to corrupt human trust, where significant power is involved, has been met with the appropriate deception and exploitation required to command preferably permanent benefits. This expedition will take us through our environment, into our past, and to new worlds of the future.

Life requires the ability to reproduce, or it would not proliferate or evolve. This is interesting to consider because, it allows an exponential growth pattern, seen in all life where resources are abundant and predators are absent. What is not often understood about the exponential function is how suddenly the end comes, quickly devouring what once seemed like so much.

All life has to acquire necessities to sustain life, or it would not exist. This is the reason why exponential growth may lead to exponential exploitation and collapse of ecosystems. It is also the reason for competition under conditions of scarcity. This competition, also known as survival of the fittest, has led to refined offensive and defensive abilities amongst species, as well as a healthy fear of this competition.

Over time, fear has proven to be useful to survival, as it can be seen throughout higher life. In addition to our here-and-now danger response, a fearful mind may also be consumed with future possibilities. The extent to which we have excelled at deception and exploitation has forged this powerful defense mechanism. This is of key importance because fear seems to be the most powerful trigger to automated behavior.

We are all born innocent, and what happens after that cannot be blamed on anyone. While considering potentially disturbing implications of this journey, it is important not to think in terms of division. Everything the human race does, it does to itself, because it is uncoordinated overall, with each one of us bound by the same isolated subjective experience. We haven't yet figured out how to build a truly peaceful civilization, but we can do it if we realize the futility of division and polarization.

Having gone over some possible reasons to expect pervasive deception and exploitation, we can appreciate how grouping behaviors based in fear would provide advantage to their members. It seems evident that intelligent coordination within nature has been utilized for both offensive and defensive operations, amongst and within all higher species. This phenomenon has been crafted to great complexity in human societies, through our technology and our culture.

If we imagine a simplistic model of communication technology and societies throughout our history, we can start with spoken language. It enables complex tribal societies, but knowledge is easily lost and distance is challenging. Written language and its technology allows for coordination over long distances and better preservation of knowledge. We are going to look at the flow of ideas and the competition amongst them as the self-domestication of our species.

We are all in a very similar situation when it comes down to it. We would like to organize into societies to coordinate labor and supplies, provide safety, and live fulfilling lives. There are many different views on the best way to do that, and a very complex battle amongst them in the minds of us all. This competition starts with the education system, where we receive the programming necessary to function.

Each individual is built upon to the specifications of society. We become isolated from the responsibilities and direct experience of existence, and become dependent on society. In hierarchy dominated societies, this dependence can even isolates us from our community. Its important to try our best to remain neutral when applying theory to reality, understanding that forces out of our control have shaped our entire environment, and us.

The printing press industrialized the broadcasting of information. Vast hierarchies (and networks) enabled by written language have greatly leveraged printed media to extend the reach and convergence of their respective ideologies. Books and newspapers, however, remained wrapped up in capital costs and politics beyond the reach of most individuals. The nature of print is one-way and authoritative, enabling massive hierarchies, while the Internet grants equal participation to all. The Internet enables global coordination in networks, just as the printing press enabled global coordination in the hierarchies of modern society.

We have almost laid the foundation upon which blockchain technology can be appreciated, but a final look inward, each into our own mind, will be needed to experience the wisdom behind what is being said. The ego will be examined as the nexus of control which occupies our time according to society. It may be uncomfortable to read, but please consider it as a possible model, while trying to avoid personal interpretations or reactions.

The organs of society have come about through the development of obstructions between the individual and their direct connection to existence. Religions of power have exploited our direct experience of love and of the divine, replacing knowing, with symbolic metaphor, mere echoes of the truth. Government and corporation manage our safe access to food and water, and provision our shelter. Responsibility for most aspects of life including order and security has drifted away from community based networks, and toward hierarchies.

A strong sense of self confidence is the only necessary goal of education to such a society. From here, desires and aversions can be crafted into levers of control known as views and beliefs. The subconscious can be woven into the very fabric of society to create the structure know as the matrix, the wall, the ego, the personality. The true individual will remain subdued behind these structures, enraptured by the spectacle, so long as the inner world of the mind remains unexplored.

This exploration can be called meditation, and it is the only foundation on which to discover and know any truth for yourself. If we can stomach a little more abuse, we will try to show  how such a society enables its coordination. We are pushed towards the left, processing brain known as mind, where behavior is automated in the subconscious, and away from the right creative brain known as heart. Where life appears to be composed of routine functions of society, learning to do instead of to think, working jobs that could one day be automated, using prescribed emotional reactions, this is where the autopilot function of the ego can be seen.

We collect and repeat knowledge which supports ideologies, and have even developed defense mechanisms against wisdom. If this exercise so far has made you bored, uncomfortable, or possibly even angry, this is because it has approached the uprooting of something bound in the subconscious. Through meditation, we can begin to peel away our views and reconnect with the heart, where a quieted mind reveals wisdom. This should not be mistaken for a religious experience. Science has long observed the observer to reveal experiences of direct knowing, which can be discovered by anyone.

The survival mandate of deceive and exploit can be seen manifesting throughout history as corruption. We don't often realize that the profit motive, enshrined to law in our society, is how we have sanctioned this type of behavior. Human trust has always been subject to exploitation, and this often proves to mean the end of our collective efforts, large or small.

Religion and government have both tackled the problems of corruption, through concern for just weights and measurements of commerce, and the maintenance of equal justice. Where justice is not maintained, confidence is shattered by the spectre of terminal looting. The system, at that point, become twisted enough to make whistleblowing an existential threat.

The blockchain, at its core, is not subject to the corruption of human trust. Elements of programmable, network-based trust will bring automation to government, finance, education, anything. Its important not to polarize on the perceived duality of hierarchy and network, or we will miss the middle path. A mix of both, which compared to today's extremes, will look like decentralization, with the sharing of crowd wisdom, and the meeting of needs through local coordination.

When the profit motive has completely saturated all opportunities for growth, little remains but the final collapse of resources. Civilization becomes bound in deception; fixing symptoms, never causes. The transition from a profit based economy to a resource based economy could preclude this global outcome.

Even with the corrupted mismanagement we apply to our collective natural heritage, we still encounter the prospect of abundance and automation which threatens to put us all out of work. The Venus Project explores the workings of a resource based economy and society as an alternative to profit driven resource allocation. The blockchain has tremendous potential, in a resource based economy, to imbue the very plumbing of society with our collective wisdom.

The networked world simply unfolds around us as seen in projects like Transition, Open Source Ecology, and RepRap self-replicating 3d printer, which aim to empower communities with self-reliance and sustainability. We may see programmable blockchains and automatic decentralized exchanges replace the finance industry. Network-secured public voting and discussion, as explored by BitCongress, an Ethereum based app, could change the very way that we govern ourselves.

The CryptoTown On The Ground project provides guidance and resources for crypto-collaborators, both online, and offline through grassroots consulting and local organization. It uses a cryptomall structure to connect the cryptocurrency development community with strategic insight and feedback gained through on the ground collaboration with participating communities. Collaborative guidance will be available for the transition to localized blockchain apps like public audit, currency, exchange, resource allocation, discussion and voting. This relies only on the participation of individuals like you.

As the network becomes more aware of itself, it will organize to express our creative nature towards each other. Society will become a matter of public participation and audit, but also of individual autonomy. We will apply the latest technology to become self sustainable, and responsible for our future. Through development of automated, renewable, abundance on the local level, the profit motive can be replaced with blockchain secured management of the common bounty.

Where the hierarchy relies on productive task executers to obey authoritative broadcasts, the new world will find people ill prepared to act intelligently, or even to survive. In the network, broadcasts take on the self-replicating nature of life, with the individual acting as an intelligent traffic router. The individual is the main actor in this new world, and today’s education system will need to stop teaching producers and doers, and start teaching creators and thinkers.

Start discussing wisdom and forget the news. Become a supportive and self-reliant peer in the new frontiers of the networked world. Let the consultancy culture flourish in your communities!

PSD for Dalai Lama!

Interesting write up. One serious question though, did your ego put you up to writing this, or was it enlighenment that guided you?

I must say I prefer the old PSD, but one must get lost before he is found again haha. Happy travels!




283  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: November 25, 2014, 02:19:55 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/agora-commodities-rebrand-bitcoin/

Quickly drop the 'genic' 😉
284  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: October 22, 2014, 08:10:02 PM

Blocknet, The internet of blockchains / XBridge / true cross-chain P2P


Could be interesting for CGB. I'm not too technical so can't say if it's legit or doable. What you guys think?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.0

Obviously the reason I post this is to discuss options for CGB to hook on to some of the latest technology. If people think that only the newer coins are interesting because of new algo's and features they could be proven wrong. While those coins are still in the diaper they often are a very risky investment. CGB has been solid tech since mid 2013, a good foundation to develop upon. You can build a wonderfull castle and have great dreams, but if that castle is build on quicksand ...., it's gone. On the other hand, when there is real innovation in crypto's then CGB can jump on the bandwagon. There are several projects that try to combine multiple cryptocurrencies into one system or network, it looks as if the clones are trying to become one again, it's almost metaphysics. I'm just wondering if such collaborations are the way to go for CGB.

Even a project as this is still in early stage or they are copycats from supernet. At all times we should avoid anything centralized or unproven.
As always, thank you kindly to BTCat for your constant involvement and dedication to CGB and our community! You are truly a supporter who is worth his weight in Bullion  Grin

The Blocknet is a very interesting idea and something that crossed the Core Team's radar as well. Further research is needed though and I personally would like to see how this develops a bit more before tying CGB to the project. We have limited resources and a full plate of projects in the works right now which I feel are the right priority direction for CGB in order to stand on its own as a leader and innovator. Joining forces with some creative and successful projects occurring in the community should always be considered and pursued if the litmus test of legitimacy and integrity are passed. Lets keep an eye on this one and see how things play out. Sadly there are a lot of deceitful entities involved in this space, so in my opinion trust has to be earned over time and is hazardous to give out without proper vetting.

Changing gears, I would like to reiterate to the community that the new client is close to completion. This is very exciting for us as well as for members in the community as this involves providing new to CGB features and better client performance overall. On that note, I would like to request assistance from a couple of members from the community to assist in beta testing of the client to make 100% certain all bugs are worked out before public release. If you are interested and have some free time to assist with this, please respond on this thread and I will follow up with you. Note, we are not looking for a large group and will lean toward selection of those who have been active supporters in the selection process.

Thank you all for your involvement and support on this trailblazing journey thus far!

elambert



BTCat, as ever, always a trailblazer for CGB. Finding and beating down new avenues, opportunities and incentives. Respect.

I do although think CGB has the fundamentals and ability to stand alone as simply a store of value. No fancy frills. Pure simplicity. Simply digital bullion. No multiple unsteady exchanges, no hyped up tag on start up crypto ventures, and a vast array of merchants accepting and immediately converting CGB to BTC then fiat.

As elambert has stated in a previous post, simplicity is the key. The ease of use of the software, and an unconfused understanding that you are buying something that you put away for a rainy day and not think about (except for staking).

Too much is misunderstood about CGB. Too many people think of it as a coin, something you spend. It is digital gold. Everyone reading this thread knows this, so there is no need to make it something it is not. All that needs to be done is to make it the easiest digital asset for people to hold and understand. Nothing more. No bows and ribbons. CGB is simply Cryptogenic Bullion, the best thing to do with it, is to invest in it, hold it, and not make it any more complicated.
285  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: October 13, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
Hey guys!

If you ever happen across a rabbit hole, check it out. I hear they can be pretty interesting. The whole crypto scene really went into cryogenic stasis for a bit there but I think we must be near the end. I can't even begin to convey the potential. CGB is gonna be in just the right spot at the right time Wink

Missed you guys as well this summer, but man as it been a trip. Lets catch up. What you all been UP TO?Huh

papersheepdog, Canada





Hey PSD! Funny things them rabbit holes, never know exactly where you might end up. Glad you found your way back. Stay away from mirrors, for a while at least  Cheesy
286  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: October 11, 2014, 01:58:20 AM
BTW, PSD! IMY  Cry

Sent you a gmail my friend.

Google mailed you back.
287  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: October 10, 2014, 11:45:52 PM
BTW, PSD! IMY  Cry
288  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Cryptogenic Bullion (CGB) | "The Digital Precious Metal" on: October 10, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
I made an account at Crypto-Trade, but I couldn't find the giveaway for CGB that you guys were talking about.  Did I misunderstand something?

See that sell order at 0.00088 on crypto-trade tspacepilot?

Post an address here and it's yours!
289  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 07:28:58 PM
It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.

Somebody is about to make you feel really dumb. Will leave it up to that somebody to do that.
290  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 05:20:38 PM
Wait a minute...let me get this straight. (Please dont answer if you're not sure yourself)

Are you telling me that those who sold after the start of the attack (the past few hrs) will get to keep both their BTC (earned from selling) and VRC amount (prior to selling) Huh Please verify

Not really, the exchange may perform trades within its own software. It is only when coins are sent to/and from the exchange that they are broadcast to the network.
291  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 05:17:25 PM
So are the coins stolen being rolled back or every transaction up to the hard fork being rolled back?

Everything as/and after the coins were stolen, this is why all wallets on effected exchanges have been suspended until the updated client is released.

292  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 05:04:56 PM
Why are people blaming Vericoin for this? This is 100% Mintpals fault. What really pisses me off is the Vericoin Devs have to fork to save the coin because clearly Mintpal will not cover the losses. FUCK MINTPAL.

What are Mintpal going to do? Buy back every one of the 8M coins off the attackers and give them back to everyone. as long as there were no big movements by mintpal involving these 8M coins then they should be back in the majority of peoples accounts after the update.
293  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
The hacker must not of wanted my coins ON mintpal cuz there still there, i feel left out

Leave em there till the dust settles, and a fork is created. any coin movement from after the attack untíl the client update will be erased.

I got some coins in limbo sent to mintpal got comfirmations but never appeared what should i do ?




Do nothing! We know nothing of when the attack exactly took place. Any transaction after the attack may be on the chain which the coins were stolen on, which will then be invalid. Do nothing, and assess the situation after the development team responds to the situation.

This is most unfortunate, but if everyone stays calm, and does not transact any coins the less effect it will have on the network and community and the easier things will be put right.
294  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 04:29:25 PM
Too bad about the hack.  But a rollback will do nothing but cause a loss of faith in this coin.

If the developers can start a rollback, then the blockchain's history is obviously worth nothing...

Dead coin now.  Too bad, so sad.

I believe that this can be summed up as.....NOT.

Is Bitcoin dead because of Mt Gox? It was an exchange. The exchange was weak. Bitcoin was solid. Take note!
295  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 04:25:30 PM
so what are we supposed to do? update the wallet? backup the wallet?

We will have instructions soon.

Someone wants to cause VRC problems due to the fact its not just some other shit coin, but a real coin, with real, capable developers.

We the community take on the responsibility of Mintpals lack of common sense. So the smart people will be buying this dip, seeing the actions of the developers, dedicated and quick to take action. While some people panic sell, in the end, the person who hacked gets what they want for a short period of time, once cool heads prevail and the team gets it straight I wouldn't be suprised to see large demand.

+1

What will happen will be a hard fork, that is, the blockchain will re-commence from before the attack took place. If everyone keeps their coins immobile then there will be much less vulnerability that this will affect each persons balances which were confirmed before the attack took place.

If you have coins on mintpal. It is now mintpals responsibility to secure and reimburse those coins for every individual involved with the attack, as it is their wrong doing and not the Vericoin networks fault. Only Mintpals secury.

I urge everyone making transactions outside of Mintpal, to stop this activity and wait for a Vericoin Developers response to the current situation.






296  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
The hacker must not of wanted my coins ON mintpal cuz there still there, i feel left out

Leave em there till the dust settles, and a fork is created. any coin movement from after the attack untíl the client update will be erased.
297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
can we share any news or info on the hackers so people can track them down.... I have friends that could find them... and I would love to know who it was and bring them to the public...

make all the hacker info public so we can find them and share their info... would make the whole crypto community more secure...

just like when that guy from btc got hacked and he offered what was it 20 btc to find the hacker as a reward... the hacker asked for what was it 15 or 30 btc... was a story a few months back... turn the tides on the hackers and make their info public

It was Jesus.
298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 03:51:10 PM
Can any dev answer why mp would only have an issue with vrc and the attackers did not take btc or higher valued coins?  If what mp said was true and only vrc was hit, but had nothing to do with vrc?

Just looking for an answer, if there is a good explanation, then great! would instill confidence!


I would suggest it was an attack on the security of mintpals wallets. Obviously not very bulletproof. As we all know cryptos are bulletproof, else we would have billions of the bloody bastards running around.  Grin
299  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 03:45:06 PM
Don't move your Vericoins guys! Don't send from anywhere until you have updated to the newest client, soon to be released!!! Stay tuned for Dev team response!

300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] | VeriCoin | POS - NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS on: July 13, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
VeriCoin will hard fork to a checkpoint a few hours ago just before the attack on MintPal. MintPal has agreed to cover losses relating to the hack.

VeriCoin is fine, there are no vulnerabilities. We had to decide between hard forking prior to the attack or letting MintPal fall and the thief keeping the 8 million VRC that was stolen. We chose the option that we thought would be best for the coin.

We will be releasing a new wallet with a fix shortly.

Good going pnosker!! Very quick response to a very serious attack on an exchange. Good work!

Only thing is? When exactly did this attack happen? As I know all transaction after the last block before the attack will be nulled.
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