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2841  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 10, 2017, 01:31:14 AM
Hej now, just because the healthcare industry is a business that literally makes money 'over your dead body', doesn't mean you ought to quit it altogether.

What you break your leg and you wish to avoid a doctor?

Same with vaccinations, many of them are much needed.

I am sure that the medical industry probably hates fixing broken legs. No recurring money in that.

They don't want cures, they want solutions that require your recurring payments. Drugs for the rest of your life, vaccines you need to renew every few years, etc.
2842  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 10, 2017, 01:22:42 AM

My shtf plan is mobility. First sign of bad things coming and I find my next country to live in. And they all take bitcoin.

What do you call a sign of bad things?

That is likely a per-country call. I live in South Korea so the first confrontation between North Korea/South Korea(US) that is likely to trigger a war will be followed by my logging into cheapair.com and find the first flight out of here.

If I was in the US, things like passing laws that would likely trigger an event or the debt bubble finally pops, or something happens where energy is disrupted. Any war with Russia or any country who can actually hit things with their bombs is an exit event.

Though my line in the sand that made me leave the US was the tax on being alive (Obamacare).
2843  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: June 10, 2017, 12:20:55 AM
If our government were funded by mass murder and rape, would you then justify it saying "mass murder and rape are the price we pay to live in a civilized society"? We gotta have government right?

"There's nothing wrong with mass murder and rape, the only problem are those corrupt politicians that abuses the mass murder and rape for there personal interest. That's why we must put right persons over the government to avoid misuse of such government mass murder and rape."
2844  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 09, 2017, 09:05:46 AM
B...b...but...the pharmaceutical industry would never lie to us! They're doctors. They swear not to hurt us!

Just because billions upon billions of dollars is at stake. Money has never encouraged anyone to push a false narrative ever in the history of the world.
2845  Local / 한국어 (Korean) / Korean cell phone top up sites? on: June 09, 2017, 07:18:01 AM
I checked bitrefill to add data to my cell phone but it says Korea is not supported.

Is there any top up service in Korea that takes bitcoins?
2846  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2017, 06:56:56 AM
The likelihood of a worldwide apocalyptic event is staggeringly small. What could possibly happen to make every nation in the world including small islands in the Pacific to lose power, food, water, energy, etc?

A shtf event is more likely to hit one country ala Venezuela right now where Bitcoin is very useful. Or even a world war would leave small pockets of untouched nations that would welcome you and your bitcoins (your gold as well).

My shtf plan is mobility. First sign of bad things coming and I find my next country to live in. And they all take bitcoin.



You do know that an ice age has already started right?? That will last for a short period of time 20-30 years, but it still enough to attempt a decimation of the human race and trimming the current population numbers! Smiley


If the ice age happens we can just drive SUVs and cause global warming. Or whatever other lame things that are blamed for all of the warming going on.

Global freezing is so 1970s. It was changed to global warming in the 80s, then because they were both wrong they changed the term to climate change in the 00s. Get with the times bra.

So many different words for communism after the Soviet Union fell...it's hard to keep up.
2847  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: June 09, 2017, 05:26:12 AM

2848  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 09, 2017, 12:01:53 AM
The likelihood of a worldwide apocalyptic event is staggeringly small. What could possibly happen to make every nation in the world including small islands in the Pacific to lose power, food, water, energy, etc?

A shtf event is more likely to hit one country ala Venezuela right now where Bitcoin is very useful. Or even a world war would leave small pockets of untouched nations that would welcome you and your bitcoins (your gold as well).

My shtf plan is mobility. First sign of bad things coming and I find my next country to live in. And they all take bitcoin.
2849  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: June 08, 2017, 07:35:50 AM
There's nothing wrong with taxation system, the only problem are those corrupt politicians that abuses the tax spending for there personal interest. That's why we must put right persons over the government to avoid misuse of such government funds.

Getting your money through theft is done by corrupt people.
2850  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptosteel: The Ultimate Cold Wallet Private Key Storage System on: June 08, 2017, 12:43:01 AM
I took 5 of these through the airport in Dubai and was chosen for a random screening. Needless to say I had to explain what they were. It did not help that I had wrapped them in metalic duct tape to ensure that nobody opened them during my travels. Eventually I removed enough of the tape for them to see that it was just some metal plates.

When I went through security in Vietnam I made sure to have a picture on my phone of them and explained it to the guard. He said "oh, Bitcoin!" and let me move along.
2851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2017, 12:37:55 AM
I think this dump is from the guy in this thread that predicted 3000 in July. He is trying to save face for his erroneous prediction if it were to happen in June.
2852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 08, 2017, 12:30:54 AM
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.

Cool. Do you know Edan Yago of Epiphyte? While not seasteading specifically, he was working on setting up an independent economic/political 'zone of opportunity' with similar social implications. He spoke at Bitcoin 2013 in San Jose.

Maybe more direct is that The Seasteading Institute was also at that conference with a booth. If they had a talk, I did not notice. I spoke with them for a bit. I got one of the reps from their org set up with his first Bitcoin wallet.

I do not know of him. Come to find out there are over 1000 special economic zones in the world. It is a good trend.
2853  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: June 08, 2017, 12:21:28 AM
Yes, in many countries taxes are used by rulers only in their own interests. Until people can defeat their greed they will not be able to see a prosperous country with honest rulers.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There will never be honest rulers.

People who need rulers need dishonest ones.
Tax is really a big help for all of us, especially the standing of our country, but because of corrupt officials tax turns to negative as people would think that they are just wasting their money in paying taxes and they don't feel the benefit of it and other people use it for their own self, but for me I'll still pay taxes since it is somewhat the basic needs of a country for it to grow and to be sustainable.

You will pay your taxes either way. Otherwise men with guns will come and kidnap you.
2854  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2017, 12:52:51 PM
I found a site that lists acres of land for cheap. Like 50 acres or 100 acres for $20,000 USD to $40,000 USD. So far I've just been looking at the United States and Canada on it. LandWatch.com

I think I found it from another site that talked about homesteading. It's not a decentralized nation like seasteading, but I kinda like getting lost in my own woods, looking for honey.

West Texas is very cheap. Plenty of land to be had. It's in middle of nowhere though but you'll be left alone.
2855  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: June 07, 2017, 12:09:48 PM
Yes, in many countries taxes are used by rulers only in their own interests. Until people can defeat their greed they will not be able to see a prosperous country with honest rulers.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There will never be honest rulers.
2856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2017, 07:49:27 AM
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.

lol well yes they weren't much of a match. point is pirates will seize bigger gvt assets


So you're basically saying that seasteads will be such a great thing that people will be clamoring to get to one.

Reminds me of the early days of Bitcoin when the Keynesians were saying that nobody will ever buy bitcoins because the value will keep rising.


The powers that be...nation states with the ships etc..will simply say that such endeavors are a hazard to international comerce and shipping and not allow them
that way imho.....IF such an endeavor was ever a true tax haven.....(can you say blockaide or worse)

I suppose it could be a 'niche' thing and ignored or tolerated..but doubtful if enough people use it as a tax haven (at least from usa irs point of view)

too many avenues to strangle this baby in the crib imho for it to really work at the scale folks want it to work

then again I drank the kool aid at one time and believed in BFL Miners ..so wth do I know Smiley


The Cayman Islands, Turks and Caicos, Belize, Bermuda...all tax havens. Not too many ships rolling up attacking them for their freedoms.

I am sure between the time of Phase 1 in a protected harbor of a nation state and Phase 3 out in international waters, the people actually living on the seasteads will figure out stuff that people right now on an Internet forum cannot even fathom.

Imagine someone trying to explain Purse.io's business concept back in 2009.
2857  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2017, 07:22:26 AM
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.

lol well yes they weren't much of a match. point is pirates will seize bigger gvt assets


So you're basically saying that seasteads will be such a great thing that people will be clamoring to get to one.

Reminds me of the early days of Bitcoin when the Keynesians were saying that nobody will ever buy bitcoins because the value will keep rising.
2858  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2017, 06:55:10 AM
TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
btc decentralises nation states - what is for example the USG without the US$? and what is the USA without the USG? Angry people with guns.
and boats. any ship or island when that shtf will be a sitting target for pirates.

Pirates sound scary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFxK7o74-kY

Could even make a sport out of them...target practice.
2859  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2017, 04:43:11 AM
I remember when the price shot up to 60 dollars when I had bought at 20, all my friends at work were saying I should sell. Calling me crazy for not selling as it went over 100.

I will diversify into Seasteading later this year as I see that as the next world changing technology that I believe in.

You know what I tell these people? "You didn't tell me when to buy, so don't tell me when to sell!"

Can you post something elaborating on why seasteading is a world changing technology? I fail to see the implications...

Though currently it is being spun as a "green technology" to appease the environmental mafia, the concept is similar to cryptocurrencies in that you can spin up your own "government" and let the best one win.

We're just about to start Phase 1 which is building a prototype in a nation's protected harbor with limited autonomy. Phase 2 is moving 12nm outside of the nation's borders but still in fairly shallow waters and inside the nation's EEZ. The final phase, Phase 3 is an autonomous seastead 200nm from any nation in international waters. Basically creating a new floating nation. The first one will be like Bitcoin and grow bigger and better over time. While others will duplicate the technology and concept and build their own seasteads in various places around the world implementing their own concepts in the hopes that people will join them.

One of the keys to the concept is that your home/platform is mobile. If you don't like the way things are being run you just float to another seastead that you do like. It allows for competing governments in an incubator type of fashion where something much better than our current governments will arrise due to the free market force of choice.

One example given is that if the government of a seastead declared war with someone, they might be surprised to wake up in the morning to discover that all of their citizens floated away in middle of the night to form a new seastead.

I spent a week in Tahiti last month at a conference with some very intelligent people who are working to bring the first seastead to French Polynesia. The president welcomed us and they are very open to giving us a special economic zone in one of their protected harbors. The company that was formed, Blue Frontiers, should be taking investors soon. I spoke with their finance guy and told him to contact me as soon as they are ready for investors. I also sat down with their crypto workgroup and was humbled by the amount of talent that team brings with it. We definitely want people to be able to use Bitcoin to invest and record property ownership on the blockchain. The legislation should go through around January, then things will take off from there.


TL;DR Seasteading will allow for the decentralizing of nations the same way Bitcoin decentralizes currency.
2860  Economy / Speculation / Re: Parity watch -> Who's next? on: June 07, 2017, 04:22:04 AM
It is amazing the amount of major nations that Bitcoin has passed.

I remember thinking it would be great for one of those small nations to adopt Bitcoin as their national currency. Had they done that back in 2011 they would be one of the top economies of the world.
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