I am not sure which if any coins used in the Galactic Milieu are up to date enough with bitcoin code to work properly with the various methods folks have come up with for doing cross-chain atomic exchange. For example I think a lot of them still have "malleable transactions" even as they are so old. So what you're saying is that bitcoin code has updated beyond where our coins that began on blockchain and froze when you began issuing tokens for them on your Digitalis Open Transactions server using Open Transactions have transaction malleability issues since most of the Galactic Milieu coins inspired by BiTCoin probably never fixed those issues one can read here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_malleability... I can see how using a blockchain such as Bitcoin's with former blockchain coins that have been locked up in your custodial possession might not exactly be compatible when writing and signing transactions for blockchain coins across two invalidating blockchains... Open Transactions planned to federate the reserve-custodian function but I had to move on from that platform as they refused to finalize data formats or warrant that there would be conversion tools to migrate data from old to new formats if/when formats changed.
So currently acting as custodian of the coins represented by tokens still seems somewhat necessary for various of the coins. Keeping coins for now as a custodian while allowing people to trade tokens with other tokens on a platform such as Horizon or Stellar DEX is a temporary and easy solution to avoid issues with the actual blockchain coins and their possible incompatibility with Bitcoin as its network and BIPs have changed the rules to invalidate compatibility with older blockchain based coins. Data could even be incompatible between Berkley DB 4.7 and 4.8 and any Bitcoin/updated Bitcoin codebase chains that have since moved to other databases that are not backward compatible with the one my Devcoin - Wallet uses (Berkeley 4.8.30 April 9, 2010). So not just malleability issues there I assume, but things beyond my head that would tend to make me agree with you about atomic cross-chain transactions between our ancients and the current Bitcoin and it's blockchain/transaction/software parameters. Token swapping in a DEX like Stellar or on a self-run server and platform where these tokens are backed, or migrated from DOTs and Open Transactions to the Horizon Platform "home" and bridging with OTC transactions work for now. Clearly I've never had any complaints with you. But we do need to modernize soon. Unless it comes to us instead. But hey if you can somehow figure out which if any of our blockchains will work with whatever cross-chain stuff your system does to secure coins on the real blockchain that are in use as tokens on your system I'd love to hear which ones should work and see it implemented. Since your big seven Galactic currencies began as coins, fully issued 21-million in supply, and migrated rather quickly to Open Transactions and your methods of tokenization/custodial control of coins, those blockchains were last edited testnet configurations within a bitcoin client if I am not mistaken? With Merge Mining, its clear DVC coins and their raw blocks directly copying "Bitcoin block - transactions (really)" already sort of are compatible. But to call it cross-chain I would say to me it looks like layers that work well keeping a record with a DVC coin transaction on top and a copy of a raw Bitcoin block tx beneath on the "raw Devcoin block"... Sort of like printing on both sides of a sheet of paper with information that goes quite well together. I have never personally examined a GRouPcoin block but I am aware you said that too was stripped and reverted back to 50 coins per block indefinitely, that it is on a blockchain still, and that it was a test run to see if what you planned for DeVCoin and it being secured by POW merge mining would work. So there's another blockchain I've never looked at, but perhaps one in combination with our other merge mined chains (I0Coin being merge mind but 90 second blocks, IXCoin having a blockchain with big blocks and being an original sidechain to Bitcoin, etc). Next platform Galactic Milieu is likely to issue onto is Diamond (DMD) when its "version 4" comes out. Meanwhile accumulation of DMD in readiness for that era is ongoing.
-MarkM-
By no means am I an expert at atomic swapping but I do believe that IXCoin, I0Coin, and others have fixed malleability issues in recent updates. Devcoin appears to be right where it needs to be (maybe the addition of other milieu configurations could help with any rate limiting necessary for secure swapping), and finally - automation. How does that all happen without a custodian, with real coins, and blockchains? Maybe we use our own unique and secure blockchains of the Galactic Milieu, the platforms and their legers as well as their unique features like HORIZON's DAE and POS/Leasing, Stellar's token swapping, but with automated ways for us to issue tokens while proving we have the coin to back them, and like you've planned, perhaps one more meaningful migration to DMD version 4 - when it becomes a platform that you believe will work for us. And if the bottleneck is still speed to pull of such transactions lets just use cross-platform/OS configuration mods like the first GG/GEG Geist Geld and it's Multicoin-exp fork  A good wallet, but one you can only access your coins out of and per the rules set forth by the protocol. Uniswap muniswap. These are just a lot of ideas. But I'm sure you know better than I what I'm getting at. I'm a fan. Keep it up! But definitely use our blockchains if we got some to spare without coins generation/transactions with coins but room for other data on them. Cough HORIZON cough |
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Considering my last purchase (weeks ago) and last nights purchase (9/22) was the only one to buy said bargain, you're welcome for being the only one actively taking advantage. It's still ~ 80 DVC per FBX. Maybe you just need to get some tokens yourself. |
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Hey guys. Love the ideas I've read in here so far. I just started with Qortal as it was recommended to me by a Devcoin (DVC) developer (Traxo on bitcointalk). The timeserver sync and check on Windows is amazing! And very intriguing.  Only problem I'm having is I've installed both the Windows EXE files from the latest github release, Qortal (the app 1.3.5) and the current UI. Running the UI and the app is no problem. It does use a lot of memory but I got memory to spare! I just am stuck synchronizing the app at 68% but it says on the UI that I am stuck at just short of 60,000 blocks. I have peers connected, are there ports I need to let through my firewall? Also my windows notifications said I received a message from a Qortal user when I ran the client first last night and I can't find it anywhere in the UI.  The UI still has a few little bugs... such as the bug you're mentioning now... I would suggest...- kill the UI
- Wait for the core to be 100% synchronized.
- restart the UI
See if the caching issue is resolved. (This is literally just an issue with the UI caching the incorrect block height, and not displaying correctly, as long as when you mouseover the blue Q icon on the taskbar, and it says 'synchronizing xx% - height - xx,xxx' you're good, just let it finish to 100%.) When it gets fully sync'd the icon on the taskbar, upon mouseover, will say 'not minting - height - xx,xxx', at which point you're sync'd. THEN start the UI, and you should be good.Once you're sync'd and account created, go into 'communications - Q-chat' and send a message in 'Qortal General Chat' and I will send you some QORT so that you can register your name on the chain, and potentially join whichever groups you may be interested in joining on the chain. You can also send me a PM on-chain by going to ' new chat' and sending to ' crowetic', and message me. Giving it another go tonight - I hope I can sync. |
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After all the shenanigans
Mr 650 has not been active for over a week
Freiexchange is the first exchange in terms of volume
Another Fake start or maybe he’s busy? He’s legit but probably blew his lunch money. Maybe next month he’ll drop another grand. Still better than nothing. Let’s be positive here. One selfless investor is better than none. Keep Ixcoin Classy K? Truth. We’re all about the Truth here, but I’ve seen many promising people and their promises come and go overnight so I’m just being real. So what’s up with destroying corn while people starve - while wasting trillions of fresh gallons of water while people die of thirst when the US is fully energy independent? Nothing classy about that, just liberal virtue signaling without any thoughtfulness about what’s truth and what matters. Stay real, brohim. Corn is better to feed than to rot my engine I agree. The ethanol mandate is beyond my comprehension. |
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Dear Devcoin Community, Let's start with a friendly reminder of our purpose as a project: Devcoin is an ethically inspired cryptocurrency created in 2011 to support open source programmers and writers worldwide. Devcoin will eventually fund all types of developers including hardware developers, musicians, painters, graphic artists and filmmakers
Let's honor it! I'm glad to announce that the Devcoin Foundation is going donate a percentage of its liquidity to charity via the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC), a non-profit "that helps promote, improve, develop, and defend Free, Libre, and Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects. Conservancy provides a non-profit home and infrastructure for FLOSS projects. This allows FLOSS developers to focus on what they do best — writing and improving FLOSS for the general public — while Conservancy takes care of the projects' needs that do not relate directly to software development and documentation". The effective donation amount will be transferred in US dollars and records will be added on every Devcoin round via https://github.com/devcoin/charityFunding the SFC means to foster projects like: Busybox, Git, Homebrew, Inkscape, Metalink, Qemu, Samba and Wine among others. The next time that you talk about Devcoin with your peers, don't sell it short! Rather let them know how we are contributing to the fighting for software freedom! Full list of SFC projects https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/Go go Devcoin! -- develCuy Sending quasi-merit (I have 0 to send =P). Keep up the good work! |
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You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking. Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that! Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems: One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use; Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere. -MarkM- Once upon a time PayPal and VirWox of Switzerland (hello SIX and I0C port 7333!) devs used to let me buy more SLL than I could afford for BTC. It was probably an intentional secret to see who would later realize the game by such a method. It let me know that as tight as a spread might be there's still a hole in the system where things "slip through" and in that pinkish/gray area I think there's certainly room for a time-hardened coin like DVC which will be able to insure anyone who floods in later looking for such a coin/system to transfer, transact, etc in DeFi. When they do choose to put their money, whatever money or value they have for that matter, into OUR coin, using OUR secure chain - DVC will be at the heart of the DeFi economy. At the end of the day the rules will close that spread/gap and the gamemaster will have enough peers "officers" so they never lose too much on fees, but also collect back enough interest to keep the clan of officers intact. The 100+% reserve works. Yeah, DVC can hit $.10-$.20 but I’ve been buying the real deal. That said I still own a bit of DVC. |
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I dropped the price of i0C, got you noobs, (On freiexchange) to 11 satoshi s few days ago to show my kindness and Generosity. You’re welcome. Question. I hope you dropped us ahead. Or at least the price of a drop rises once the bucket overflow is realized |
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I dropped the price of i0C, got you noobs, (On freiexchange) to 11 satoshi s few days ago to show my kindness and Generosity. You’re welcome. You're thanked. I'm gonna try to create an I0C token market for DVC as well as IXC if I'm being honest Just trying to find someone who wants I0C or DVC or IXC that is able to send tokens on KEYBASE =) You ungrateful sob - I sent you 5.2 XLM to ACTIVATE you and you snubbed me - guess that's what telegram is for. If I wanna talk to you there its like - no problem, lets send more spam than Yobit can list EDIT: Whoops outta merit. Tried to merit you but context would be misunderstood without merit sent. These "ungrateful sob" words are meant in jest. To the jester of our game himself |
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You can contact markm and he will take your DVC tokens at his stellar address and send you blockchain devcoins into your DVC wallet. 1:1 ration of Stellar DVC tokens/DVC. I coordinated with him on the keybase.io chat by direct messaging him at "knotwork" because keybase has a built in wallet for Stellar and its tokens.
Dan, is it too difficult to implement that automatically in the system? Not a criticism, just genuinely asking. Also Stellar is an open network, good place for DVC to move in and out of as it builds up value per each unit. Not about dollars anymore.
That's very good!! I like that! Last few times I looked for free open-source code for giving people tokens in return for coins there were two problems: One, they claimed the code was not for production-use, that is, not actually hardened for real use; Two, the code minted tokens on the fly to represent the supposedly-received coins, instead of only letting folks "buy" existing tokens already previously minted; that violates my only issue tokens for half my coins policy and also implies issuing tokens representing coins that are probably still in a "hot" wallet no yet actually frozen or buried safely away somewhere. -MarkM- Once upon a time PayPal and VirWox of Switzerland (hello SIX and I0C port 7333!) devs used to let me buy more SLL than I could afford for BTC. It was probably an intentional secret to see who would later realize the game by such a method. It let me know that as tight as a spread might be there's still a hole in the system where things "slip through" and in that pinkish/gray area I think there's certainly room for a time-hardened coin like DVC which will be able to insure anyone who floods in later looking for such a coin/system to transfer, transact, etc in DeFi. When they do choose to put their money, whatever money or value they have for that matter, into OUR coin, using OUR secure chain - DVC will be at the heart of the DeFi economy. At the end of the day the rules will close that spread/gap and the gamemaster will have enough peers "officers" so they never lose too much on fees, but also collect back enough interest to keep the clan of officers intact. The 100+% reserve works. |
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Hey guys. Love the ideas I've read in here so far. I just started with Qortal as it was recommended to me by a Devcoin (DVC) developer (Traxo on bitcointalk). The timeserver sync and check on Windows is amazing! And very intriguing. Only problem I'm having is I've installed both the Windows EXE files from the latest github release, Qortal (the app 1.3.5) and the current UI. Running the UI and the app is no problem. It does use a lot of memory but I got memory to spare! I just am stuck synchronizing the app at 68% but it says on the UI that I am stuck at just short of 60,000 blocks. I have peers connected, are there ports I need to let through my firewall? Also my windows notifications said I received a message from a Qortal user when I ran the client first last night and I can't find it anywhere in the UI. |
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Hi,
win 8.1 QT Version 5.2.0
win 7 won't open wallet ,
Devcoin-Qt (OSS GUI client for Devcoin)
Devcoin-1.0.16-w32\Devcoin-qt.exe"
Can't work out how to insert screen print
hopefully this helps
Why don't you save your wallet.dat and upgrade to newer version of Windows? Windows 10 working fine. It was a free upgrade for me back in 2015? I think it was 2015 |
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I joined also - to forge Horizon...
It was a failure to forge Horizon with 12 500 000 HZ? ((I transferred a little more also to my server, but it shouldn't yet count in the forging amount, I think)) As always - last times - I think, Horizon chain was forked to quickly. I stopped my server. Me seems lfm.knotwork.com and ufbsh.no-ip.org should be restarted also. Any hints? You can have my IP. I trust all of you. I don't care. I think you all run nodes just like me in this meta game. Maybe we need a meta like file (like .TOML) or something to show where Horizon comes from... Or where its locally stored on each of our own accounts =P I dunno. I suppose Poloniex escrow@poloniex Polonidex still takes from this network as a web based exchange and I suppose locked threads or delisted KYC exchanges might make certain versions of HZ software we use not readable forwards and backwards but if we all just admit we're in this together and CORs (Cross Origin Resource sharing) between a HZ/BTC pair exists... I mean just click the link still active over the web browser and TCP/IP and see where it forwards you: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/#btc_hzI've said this so many times. It's a waiting game. I am sure there are easter eggs, or bootstraps, or tip bots we could use somewhere. Or perhaps we already have - and that's why my local app data for Keybase's desktop app is always part of the nhz.log file in my roaming folder on Windows everytime I start up my Horizon Server. Sharing is caring So either lets all ADMIT what this actually is. Or lets all help Dan figure out how to be more productive in helping other normies from "the planet known as earth" find opportunities they just cannot accept to exist. IFINTA: Give me some info about what OS you use, what software you're running and I will try and answer even though you are a fellow character in this game and I am probably just amusing you by posting my offer to help lol |
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Downloaded the hzexchange zip and extracted it to see if I could make it work. Here is your problem from ...\Desktop\hzxchange.net-1.01\README.md: # hzxchange.net
Standalone version of the HZXchange client
Download, and open index.html in your browser.
Needs a solution for HZ/BTC price (same origin policy, didn't find an api with CORS header yet)
It's quite easy to understand that until Poloniex stops forwarding our former "delisted" HZ website link to its old HZ/BTC pair (later forwarded the link below to ETH/BTC pair, now its a BTC/USDT pair - you all know what I mean): EDIT: forgot to link y'all https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_hzEDIT2: now that I have clicked the link from bitcointalk.org I am being forwarded to ( https://poloniex.com/exchange/USDT_STR) STR/USDT ---back to original post--- Go ahead and click it. If you're wondering where CORs is used it is in setting up the platform and changing the nhzdefault.properties file and set the "false" to "true" - my server/node uses Java (Horizon NRS from C:\...) and I can open up an app I created for Internet Explorer to run my wallet and access the platform itself locally just fine Probably why mark never finished migrating to Poloniex and why they have offered similar exchanges since they took part of Horizon stealth-ly away from idiots like me who just used to use web exchanges and not know a thing about the internet, mobile data, the web, the world wide web etc. But this platform still has many peers - sometimes I get as many as 17! I will run the Horizon Server I setup as a way to support and secure the network as long as it lets me Why let ETH be the only one locking away coins for DeFi when HZ is the origin of Original Proof-of-Stake as well as running just fine according to rules of Nakamoto Consensus. The more HZ one holds on Horizon, the more virtual hashing power it should have for PoS. =P |
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Amazing. Didn’t some “expert” clowns say the price of a coin correlates to its hash/difficulty? So why is I0C at 1 cent instead of $1,000+? Been saying it for years - Network security will prove to be the most important feature. Soon. “Original” Proof-of-Stake
The original usage of “Proof-of-Stake” refers to a class of Nakamoto consensus algorithms where a node’s holdings or stake in the underlying currency is converted to virtual computation power. The name is derived from its similarity to Proof-of-Work somewhat literally replacing the “Work” with “Stake” in the algorithm. For example, the PoW mining problem might be changed from:
hash(parent, nonce) <= difficulty
to something like:
hash(parent, address A) <= balance(address A) * time * difficulty
with the remainder of the protocol unchanged.
Since original PoS still uses the longest fork choice rule, the immediate issue is that it is easy for nodes to “mine” blocks on many forks at once. This is byzantine behavior as honest nodes only mine on a single longest block. However, since there is no cost for acting byzantine, we can not assume nodes will not do so. It is strict economic gain as more mined blocks on different forks means a higher chance of being included in the canonical chain and earning block rewards. This is referred to as the the nothing at stake problem and can be addressed with slashing which we’ll discuss soon. There are still other difficult to address vulnerabilities. |
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I can only catch up with so much. :/ But I do find it odd that chainz explorer seems to think the entire southern hemisphere of planet earth does not take part in the DevCoin network =P Plus I was too busy trading for HZ and putting together a mirror tutorial to try and help normies understand how to get through the process and join our cause And... sometimes you gotta take a break from all the information. I mean just reading this blows the mind but makes way too much sense of what I've read in the past all over these project's realms and spaces https://buildingbitcoin.org/bitcoin-dev/log-2011-07-04.html. Don't delete that, Mark's in there he's an admin of this project last time I checked. So is DVC still the real bitcoin? Cause if but I’ve got a good idea which one is.  virtually speaking or? |
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