Vod, what is your logic based on?  You took one word out of a six word phase and claimed it to be the design of the org, I include your word and add two other plus none of the above.  According to your logic I concentrated it not diluted it. 

I want to know how many people would honestly make the same mistake as you.  If people honestly think it's a charity then it's a problem, but that still would not excuse all of the other wickedness you are perpetrating -- what's wrong with you?

Why didn't you think to take a poll before you made the accusation?
Why didn't you think to take a poll before you issued the negative feedback based on your backwards interpretations of reality?
Why cause sooo much unnecessary trouble when you could have asked your questions publicly or in private without doing so much damage?

Vod, most of your assertions are rooted in fear, the basis for those fears are unfounded, unsubstantiated, and inconsistent with my history on this site. 

I've handled lots of funds for other people and have scammed no one.

Vod, are you willing to put your money where you mouth is?  Are you willing to back your claims with money (any tradable currency you wish)?   

It's clear to me that you have chosen to jump to the wrong conclusion, I'm disappointed that you have chosen to remain at the wrong conclusion.  Your posts and your negative feedback has called my username's character into question, and have caused me to have to defend myself for no good reason or righteous cause.  I don't know your motivation but I do hope you are willing to support your claims with money.

Better yet, put up your membership at BCT.  You have made very specific claims against me, you have publicly impugned my username's character are you willing to resign your interest in Bitcointalk.org if your claims are shown to be wrong? 

Vod issued negative feedback while asserting numerous false claims.

Somehow Vod's reading of "PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas)" is a claim to be charity.  Keep in mind that it is rare to find "(Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas)" because we would rather be identified by the initialization than an acronym, which is why the '.' are absent; so its said as a word not letters.

99% of the time where you see "PICISI" you will see it say "is a crowdfunding site currently under construction", that is telling everyone that the site is not up yet.  We also indicate that specific goals must be reached before we launch the site and the currency, the prerequisites are specifically indicated.  

PICISI is not, nor will it be, a charity, a non-profit, or a not-for-profit entity, it will be a crowdfunding site that will charge a fee for its services and will endeavor to earn massive profits.

Here is the neg feedback Vod issued:

"Running a long con charity scam.

Corporations (especially Charties) are required to register publicly with a legal license. This prevents fraud! The Executive Director (CEO) is your final contact for this company - yet he will hide behind an anonymous email address.

The money is still real - they are building up a "board of directors" now with promise of pay but once that is done they'll be asking for real coins for their "charity".

Irreversible currency to a fake charity run by an anonymous scammer.

Will modify this when the Executive Director provides the real life identities of those on his board (those who have the ultimate financial responsibility) and when they register properly as a charity in the county they wish to do business in."

I told Vod: "PICISI is not, nor will it be, a charity, a non-profit, or a not-for-profit entity, it will be a crowdfunding site that will charge a fee for its services and will endeavor to earn massive profits."  Notice I used the future tense because everyone knows it is not up yet.  

I continued: "Yes, the word "charity" is in the acronym, so too are the words 'Philanthropic' and 'Investment'; we are not a philanthropic company, or an investment company either.  PICISI will be a place where all of the interests that make up our name can be served: where Charities can find donors for their charitable campaigns; where Philanthropic orgs or individuals could make donations, or purchases; where Investors could find ways to invest in people, and products; where Inventors could find people willing to buy into their idea, plan, or prototype; share Start-ups could find individual or orgs willing to invest in them, and were good Ideas are constantly rewarded.

I am currently searching for administrators to help run the for-profit org which is currently under construction and will be located at www.PICISI.com."

Here's what this phrase: "Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas" means, 'people with money giving to people who want or need money particularly for inventions, startup, and ideas'.   The "charity" is in the benevolent giving from the donors to the campaigns.  


I know Vod is one of the gatekeepers and trying to keep the forum safe but this is uncalled for, especially when he assumes to speak for other unbeknownst to them, he posted this about 4 times BEFORE going to Hobonickels to inquire about the sponsorship arrangement:

 

I have 4 Admin spots available for good people who are willing to help manage PICISI, if anyone reading this is interested please let me know.   

This is what Vod said to another of PICISI's sponsors:



The sponsor responded to Vod "... He [Armis] has my trust anyway"

I know it's not your responsibility to speak up for PICISI, especially if you don't want to.  Rest assured you are absolutely free to request removal your endorsement at anytime for any reason, or no reason at all; any donation provided will be 100% refunded if that is your desire.  I also understand that Vod should not have defiled your thread with his lies but he did and I feel obligated to address it where it stands. 

Vod issued negative feedback to me based on his ignorance of PICISI, then went about to tell everyone he could (including PICISI sponsors) more falsehoods about PICISI.  It's obvious that Vod didn't read much about PICISI before rushing to judgement.   Please allow me to address his reckless accusations in a responsible way:

Vod mentioned "Charity" "license" "corporation" "board of directors" "stakeholders" and "collection of large sums of ... currency"  
I will prove that he jumped to the wrong conclusion then irresponsibly acted on his misunderstanding.

As you know PICISI is a business plan taking shape, and Armis is the designer and creator of PICISI.  A critical part of that plan is formation of the org, creation of the site, and creation of currency.  

Vod didn't read the plan, he refuses to read the articles about the plan, and doesn't even want to read the threads about the plan, yet he wants people to believe that he knows more about it than the person that created it.   Had he done any of that homework he would see there was never any plan for PICISI to be a charity, that it was always the plan for PICISI to be a business specifically a crowdfunding business.

The site prerequisites imply that no site presently exists, the site prerequisites also imply that once those goals are met something will begin.  When you look at the prerequisites as a whole it should be evident that those make up the basis for the business, and without them there is no business.

You don't need a license to market a plan, you don't need a license for someone to give you money to start a business, nor do you need a license to put the pieces together for the creation of that business.  A license is necessary to operate as a business, not to form one.

Vod mentioned a 'corporation' and 'board of directors', where did he get that from, not from me.  Clearly it originated in his head and now he is spreading the notion to others.   Given that Vod wrote this: "stakeholders (no corporation license!)" its clear to me that Vod confused "stakeholders" with "stockholders".  And that is probably why he wrongly went down that wrong corporate path.  Again he allowed his preconceived notions to prejudice his judgement.  

and lastly,

Vod mentioned 'collection of large sums of money', he really needs to explain that because PICISI does plan on making large sums of money, over and over again, and I have no intention of running away from our success. 

Greeting Vod, thanks for visiting.

PICISI is not, nor will it be, a charity, a non-profit, or a not-for-profit entity, it will be a crowdfunding site that will charge a fee for its services and will endeavor to earn massive profits.

Yes, the word "charity" is in the acronym, so too are the words 'Philanthropic' and 'Investment'; we are not a philanthropic company, or an investment company either.  PICISI will be a place where all of the interests that make up our name can be served: where Charities can find donors for their charitable campaigns; where Philanthropic orgs or individuals could make donations, or purchases; where Investors could find ways to invest in people, and products; where Inventors could find people willing to buy into their idea, plan, or prototype; share Start-ups could find individual or orgs willing to invest in them, and were good Ideas are constantly rewarded.

I am currently searching for administrators to help run the for-profit org which is currently under construction and will be located at www.PICISI.com. 

PICISI site launch prerequisite update is:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2; 
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .

Once I have my full team in place we will determine all disclosure protocols including 'real life identity identification' in anonymous environments.


PICISI will be managed with integrity, that's not to say everyone will always do the right thing, but it is to say that if any customer (a person that receives a service without paying a fee) or client (a person that receives a service for a fee) is dissatisfied with any of PICISI's professional services we will do all that is reasonable to satisfy them.  Furthermore, anyone that buys Pi (PICISI issued currency) from PICISI can sell it back to PICISI for the amount they originally paid for the currency.


 

Vod,  I invite you to take the time to read everything so that you could actually know what is happening.  You are clearly consuming very little information and making big decisions. 

Vod, there's no quick, fast, or slow scam here because there's no scam here whatsoever.  Everything is in writing, everything is taking place step by step, and everyone has the opportunity to ask question so that they could get information in terms they could understand. 

Everyone single PICISI sponsor should know that we are NOT a charity, please let me know which one of our sponsors believes your claim.  There again I think you have rushed to an incorrect assumption, but I would gladly clarify the matter to any and everyone.  There was never any intent for PICISI to be a charity, PICISI is not designed to be a charity, and PICISI will never be a charity.   Please remember we are not calling ourselves a charity to my knowledge only you are calling us a charity, even as i'm telling you that we are not a charity.  Clearly you believe you over me but I can't force you to believe the truth.  Although I'm confident that you will get to the truth sooner or later, my hope of course is that you get there sooner rather than later so as to mitigate the damages such wrongful accusations may cause.

Again, PICISI is not a charity, will not be a charity, and will NEVER give anyone the impression that we are a charity, a non-profit org, or a not-for-profit org.   

Everyone concerned should know that we are a crowdfunding start-up that has NOT started as of yet, we are at the prelaunch stage, we have launch prerequisite goals to satisfy  before we the site and currency are launched. 


Vod, who told you there was a corporation, who told you there was a board of directors?  You are demanding proof of things that are not in existence.

The word "stakeholders" has many meanings, but I'm inclined to believe that you are actually confusing the word "stakeholders" with the word "stockholders", given that you have it in the context of the word 'corporation'.  But for clarity I used the word stakeholders to signify all those who have a material interest in the happenings of the organization, this would include the Admins, the investors, the contractors, the sponsors, the customers, the clients, etc ...

You mentioned an "Anonymous board of directors collecting an irreversible currency?"  what board of directors are you talking about?

As for the properties of Pi, I specifically designed it without any strings attached so that it is as pure as can be. 

Vod, I appreciated your guidance in the past, had it not been for that positive experience I would see this as some kind of attack.  I know you care about bitcointalk and I do too.  In fact I care about the whole CC industry which is why I've designed PICISI as i have.  I invite you to get to know the plan and to not rush to negative judgement.   If you see a problem with the plan let me know. 

As you know I'm looking for Admins to help manage PICISI all are welcome to apply including you. 

Vod,  if you asked me a question an hour ago and I answered it in the same day it should be appreciated. 

What you identified as going offline was an issued with the site not  on my side.   

It is very true that there are scams everywhere, but it doesn't reside here.   

As for the "tried to create a foundation in the past as well ... illegally" where is that coming from?

Greeting Vod, thanks for visiting.

PICISI is not, nor will it be, a charity, a non-profit, or a not-for-profit entity, it will be a crowdfunding site that will charge a fee for its services and will endeavor to earn massive profits.

Yes, the word "charity" is in the acronym, so too are the words 'Philanthropic' and 'Investment'; we are not a philanthropic company, or an investment company either.  PICISI will be a place where all of the interests that make up our name can be served: where Charities can find donors for their charitable campaigns; where Philanthropic orgs or individuals could make donations, or purchases; where Investors could find ways to invest in people, and products; where Inventors could find people willing to buy into their idea, plan, or prototype; share Start-ups could find individual or orgs willing to invest in them, and were good Ideas are constantly rewarded.

I am currently searching for administrators to help run the for-profit org which is currently under construction and will be located at www.PICISI.com. 

My site launch prerequisite update is:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2; 
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .

Once I have my full team in place we will determine all disclosure protocols including 'real life identity identification' in anonymous environments. 


PICISI will be managed with integrity, that's not to say everyone will always do the right thing, but it is to say that if any customer (a person that receives a service without paying a fee) or client (a person that receives a service for a fee) is dissatisfied with any of PICISI's professional services we will do all that is reasonable to satisfy them.  Furthermore, anyone that buys Pi (PICISI issued currency) from PICISI can sell it back to PICISI for the amount they originally paid for the currency. 

Btc took a nose dive, Ripple took a nose dive, and a few others followed suit, it looks temporary so it should adjust in a day but wow what a surprise

I'm pleased to announce that Triangles (TRI) is our newest sponsor and that we received a sponsor donation from them; here is our new sponsor list:


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to formally start PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

I'm pleased to announce that Triangles (TRI) is our newest sponsor and that we received a sponsor donation from them; here is our new sponsor list:


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to formally start PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

good work whywetrance, you should be a Promotions Contractor and Campaign Contractor @ PICISI

will you be creating a crowd funding campaign or do you want to talk about it in the article or both

Question: when you give real money away in the form of cryptocurrency electronically connected to a physical card what happens if the card isn't sold?  What does it say on the card?
 

Thanks for that

That is what I thought you meant, and it seems Hyperfuture also thought the same as well and responded accordingly.

Although it is true that the 'send and receive' process is automated, what is not always automated is what the receiver of the material does with the material.  
In this cased it was not automatic and the writer actually did some homework before publishing the story.

"The ONLY difference is a couple of added images. Word-for-word, it's a replica."  As I indicated, its a reprint, but certainly was not a word for word replica, not even in the title.  If you read what she was given and read what she wrote you will see a greater understanding of PICISI.  You could tell that the writer actually researched the material.  From what I could tell the PICISI crowdfunding logo was not provided directly as an image in the feed story, or indirectly via a link in the story.  To get that image the writer very likely went outside of what she was hand-fed.

I believe Crowdfund Insider has seen some material about PICISI from CrowdfundingPR.com but dismissed it since it was a single source but now that some material came from a new source, one that is much larger and categorically distant from crowdfunding, she decided to look into it further and run (perhaps jog) with the story to the extent that she did.

Allow me to put it a totally different way, the 'replica' story was 'picked up' by very many news agencies, and will be read by many of their readers. One non news agency that picked up the story actually read it, and that source is a major lead for the CC world to be examined by the CF world which is why it WAS [old news now] so important for us to encourage CC people to support that article.  

We must seize opportunities when we can.

The encouragement is greatly appreciated, thanks; please help us find some admins to lead this endeavor in the right direction.  




__________________________





I'm pleased to announce that we received a donation from Triangles (TRI) and that they are PICISI's newest sponsor.  


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to launch PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

I'm pleased to announce that we received a donation from Triangles (TRI) and that they are PICISI's newest sponsor.  


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to launch PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

every day, makes it stay

Dear Triangles Community;

I'm pleased to announce that we received a donation from Triangles (TRI) and that they are PICISI's newest sponsor.  


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to launch PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

Thank you

I'm pleased to announce that Triangles (TRI) is our newest sponsor and that we received a sponsor donation from them; here is our new sponsor list:


Site launch prerequisites update:
1) recruit a min. of 6 admins, we now have 2;  
2) secure a min of 20 sponsors, we now have 23: (www.ArmisGame.com, The Einsteinium News, Crypto Cloud Hosting, Bitcoin PR Buzz, Crypto Database, Einsteinium, Metal Coin, HYPER, Hobonickels, Energy Coin, World Aid Coin, Artsry Coin, GSM, Sativacoin, Magi coin, HTML5, Coin2, Aricoin, NXT, Gridcoin, Goldpieces, MakingMoneyHoney.com, and Triangles); [goal achieved & surpassed]
3) secure a min of 8 campaigns to crowd fund, we now have 6;
4) recruit a min of 1 referral agent, we now have 1; [goal achieved]:
5) associate with a min of 2 promotion contractors, we now have 15: [goal achieved & surpassed]
6) associate with a min of 1 campaign contractor, we now have 12; [goal achieved & surpassed]
and
7) publish a min of 5 ‘about PICISI’ articles, we now have 12, [goal achieved & surpassed] .


Please note: we have two prerequisite goals to achieve in order to formally start PICISI, please help us find Admins and inaugural crowdfunding projects for the site.
 

That is exceptional work, you have fine skills.   Would you like to be listed as a Promotion Contractor and or a Campaign Contractor at PICISI?  
Promotion(s) Contractor do PICISI assignments and are paid by PICISI with Pi, Campaign Contractors do work for Campaign Organizers at PICISI and are paid by the campaign organizer with their host currency for that campaign or Pi -- PICISI would escrow funds and be the third party to issue feedback for the transaction.

As for this assignment all Promotion Contractors interested in bidding this deal may submit a bid here, or via PM.








Good to see you again AhmedAshraf, I look forward to your bid.

thanks