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181  Other / Meta / Re: I've got accused of scamming - Thanks Vod - Suggestion for the future on: May 18, 2015, 08:41:53 AM
I created PICISI, Vod accused me of scamming, then proceeded to create multiple accounts to appear to be PICISI to misrepresent both me and PICISI:



Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how unethical it was while you were thinking about it?

It was unethical when you thought about, that was the time to remove it, but you failed to,
it was unethical when you started the process, that was the 2nd time your conscious told you to reconsider, but you dismissed it,
it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that essentially said operate by the golden rule, but you refused,
it was unethical when you used it to access the site, with that username but by this time there was no more good in you to stand for righteousness,
it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, and by this time your heart had to be beating faster because you knew or should have known that your wrong would be found out.
it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did. this is when other probably told you: "what are you doing?"  "Stop that", "take it down", "you're going to regret that", "I don't think you should do that", "that's going to be a problem for you",  "be careful with that I'm not sure if anyone is going to have your back on that" ... and only then was it "determined" that it was unethical.

and it wasn't for only one fake account, or two phony accounts, it was for at least THREE FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATIONS that you identified as unethical.  But it doesn't end there, you still created other accounts for the sole purpose of misrepresenting yourself as someone authorized to represent PICISI.  And have the audacity to claim that because the start-up hasn't started that you have the right to freely abuse and mistreat it. What are you some corporate abortionist?  

Then, after all of that you actually call yourself "honest and ethical" even after admitting to mass unethical behavior-- how pathological is that?


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He still maintains accounts and is still using them to misrepresent me.   How is that not unethical, how is that not scammy, how is that not wrong on so many levels especially for a purported scam buster.
182  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 08:33:47 AM
I just received a private message from Armis.  I have no idea why he/she thought it's a good idea to send this to me:  

Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JxJSZzvr1kE/VVmSnbffU7I/AAAAAAAABB8/ExyvzC62wR4/w1218-h685-no/vod%2B3.png[/im]



Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how unethical it was while you were thinking about it?

It was unethical when you thought about, that was the time to remove it, but you failed to,
it was unethical when you started the process, that was the 2nd time your conscious told you to reconsider, but you dismissed it,
it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that essentially said operate by the golden rule, but you refused,
it was unethical when you used it to access the site, with that username but by this time there was no more good in you to stand for righteousness,
it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, and by this time your heart had to be beating faster because you knew or should have known that your wrong would be found out.
it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did. this is when other probably told you: "what are you doing?"  "Stop that", "take it down", "you're going to regret that", "I don't think you should do that", "that's going to be a problem for you",  "be careful with that I'm not sure if anyone is going to have your back on that" ... and only then was it "determined" that it was unethical.

and it wasn't for only one fake account, or two phony accounts, it was for at least THREE FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATIONS that you identified as unethical.  But it doesn't end there, you still created other accounts for the sole purpose of misrepresenting yourself as someone authorized to represent PICISI.  And have the audacity to claim that because the start-up hasn't started that you have the right to freely abuse and mistreat it. What are you some corporate abortionist?  

Then, after all of that you actually call yourself "honest and ethical" even after admitting to mass unethical behavior-- how pathological is that?





As indicated on the subject line of the correspondence, we believe this information is newsworthy and should be covered by those in the media.
If you are not part of the media please let me know and I will remove your name from the list, if you are associated with the media but don't want correspondence from me or anyone on behalf of PICISI please let me know and I will remove you from the list.


Thank you

 
183  Economy / Services / Re: 0.25 BTC Bounty - Dox of Vod / mlawrence on: May 18, 2015, 08:21:03 AM
I want the reward! And I want it now!


Just saw Vod driving around in my city!
Vod please confirm so I can get my bounty! Smiley)

interesting.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: PICISI Recruiting For Administrative Personnel For Crowdfunding Site on: May 18, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Scammers always leave the parts out that make them look bad.  Read the entire message for yourself.   Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976704.msg11406696#msg11406696

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Pickissy - the only account authorized to speak for the official PICISI

Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0




Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how unethical it was while you were thinking about it?
I was unethical as a thought, it was unethical when you started to process the membership, it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site, it was unethical when you used it to access the site, it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did.
that applies to each of the accounts that you made that have any relation to PICISI.

To call yourself "honest and ethical" after admitting to mass unethical behavior is a pathological liar admitting to being a liar and wanting credit for momentarily telling the truth.

185  Economy / Services / Re: Writers, Video Pros, Artists, Referral Agents, and Sponsorship Brokers Wanted on: May 18, 2015, 07:58:41 AM
Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0






186  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 07:41:10 AM
Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0




187  Economy / Services / Re: Graphic Artist Needed For PICISI Project -- Pi Coin Logo -- [delayed payout] on: May 18, 2015, 07:12:20 AM
It has come to my attention that Vod was feed poor intelligence by someone wanting to be a PICISI sponsor, the information did not originate from any PICISI sponsor as we were lead to believe.  Not one of the 23 PICISI sponsors issued a complaint, requested a refund, or expressed a desire to change their association.

So all of Vod's irresponsible behavior was not in defense of any of PICISI's sponsors, that's why he would not tell me who it was because he could not, it was a total fabrication, no sponsor complaint ever existed.

To everyone reading this message PICISI is a good plan, PICISI will be an honorable company, and PICISI will do great things for the CC industry.

As a direct result of this madness the following change is now in effect -- sponsorship will no longer be open to all, there is only 1 sponsorship invitation outstanding, I am now withdrawing that invitation.  If someone wants to be a PICISI sponsor it will be incumbent on them to persuade PICISI as to why that should be.

Here is what hasn't changed -- sponsorship is 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed, always was, always will be.
188  Economy / Services / Re: Writers, Video Pros, Artists, Referral Agents, and Sponsorship Brokers Wanted on: May 18, 2015, 07:11:27 AM
Vod's pal calls Vod hypocrite for creating multiple fraudulent accounts as part of Vod's vicious and malicious wide spread smear campaign against PICISI:




Before I go I had better comment yet again on VOD's failings.

My response:

One person (Quickseller) pointed out a single time that the accounts I created could be used to scam. No other person expressed any concerns.

Vod, is this your doings? Creating imposter accounts that are meant to appear be an account associated with someone that takes money from others (be it donations or otherwise) is generally considered scammy behavior. Although this may or may not be the intention, it would be very easy to use this account to get Armis's customers/sponsors/donators to give you money when that is not the intention.

Based on QS's single post, and my strong ethics, I decided to use a different name and I shut down the names that could be used to scam.  There was no advice (much less strong advice) to remove them.  As usual, your words are worthless because you don't stand behind them, and this post is a good example of why you don't.

You suck at guessing... better stick to scamming.   Undecided

QS is so reputable that he promotes Adam Allcock a known and proven VAT fraudster.

Libels my good name calling me an extortionist. Ya he is all that isn't he?

That doesn't bode well for anyone if you are taking him as the voice of ethical behavior in these forums. Bad choices all around and if you read carefully I to took exception to your hypocrisy creating multiple accounts to hound Armis. I guess certain people get recognition and others get ignored.


189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: PICISI Recruiting For Administrative Personnel For Crowdfunding Site on: May 18, 2015, 07:07:19 AM
Vod's pal issues a tongue lashing:




Before I go I had better comment yet again on VOD's failings.

My response:

One person (Quickseller) pointed out a single time that the accounts I created could be used to scam. No other person expressed any concerns.

Vod, is this your doings? Creating imposter accounts that are meant to appear be an account associated with someone that takes money from others (be it donations or otherwise) is generally considered scammy behavior. Although this may or may not be the intention, it would be very easy to use this account to get Armis's customers/sponsors/donators to give you money when that is not the intention.

Based on QS's single post, and my strong ethics, I decided to use a different name and I shut down the names that could be used to scam.  There was no advice (much less strong advice) to remove them.  As usual, your words are worthless because you don't stand behind them, and this post is a good example of why you don't.

You suck at guessing... better stick to scamming.   Undecided

QS is so reputable that he promotes Adam Allcock a known and proven VAT fraudster.

Libels my good name calling me an extortionist. Ya he is all that isn't he?

That doesn't bode well for anyone if you are taking him as the voice of ethical behavior in these forums. Bad choices all around and if you read carefully I to took exception to your hypocrisy creating multiple accounts to hound Armis. I guess certain people get recognition and others get ignored.


190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Sponsors Wanted For Crowdfunding Start-up [PICISI] on: May 18, 2015, 07:06:15 AM

Before I go I had better comment yet again on VOD's failings.

My response:

One person (Quickseller) pointed out a single time that the accounts I created could be used to scam. No other person expressed any concerns.

Vod, is this your doings? Creating imposter accounts that are meant to appear be an account associated with someone that takes money from others (be it donations or otherwise) is generally considered scammy behavior. Although this may or may not be the intention, it would be very easy to use this account to get Armis's customers/sponsors/donators to give you money when that is not the intention.

Based on QS's single post, and my strong ethics, I decided to use a different name and I shut down the names that could be used to scam.  There was no advice (much less strong advice) to remove them.  As usual, your words are worthless because you don't stand behind them, and this post is a good example of why you don't.

You suck at guessing... better stick to scamming.   Undecided

QS is so reputable that he promotes Adam Allcock a known and proven VAT fraudster.

Libels my good name calling me an extortionist. Ya he is all that isn't he?

That doesn't bode well for anyone if you are taking him as the voice of ethical behavior in these forums. Bad choices all around and if you read carefully I to took exception to your hypocrisy creating multiple accounts to hound Armis. I guess certain people get recognition and others get ignored.


191  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 06:48:02 AM
-snip-
Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

That's a very good question but I don't exactly understand it, please rephrase the question with elaboration.

I don't understand. If you didn't understand what I asked, how can it be a very good question?

When you raise funds, you need to store it somewhere before giving it to the person who started crowdfunding or is the funds send directly to the user's address when sponsors fund it?

Armis, please don't ignore.

Muhammed, I am not ignoring you.

When I read your question the first time I thought I understood it and simply didn't know the answer, then when I read it the second time and thought I understood it I believed I would need consultation to answer it, then when I read it the third time and thought I understood it I was going to answer it based on what I though was the question but then I realized that if my presumption was incorrect that I would be answering the wrong question and perhaps seen as dodging the question, so instead I simply asked you to rephrase the question with more detail so that I could try to understand it as you are asking.

Frankly, I am disappointed to see that reply. I don't know how more can I simplify it. Undecided

Post the answer to what you understood from my question. PM me if you can't post here. I will post here if the answer you gave is what I wanted to know.

Edit: Rephrased question: When you receive money from crowdfunding, will you be holding onto it or sending it instantly to the person that would eventually get it?


Muhammed, I didn't ask for simplification I asked for more clarity.

I now have more clarity, as it turns out it was nothing like what I thought you were talking about.

Here is your answer:
When someone goes to the site they will have the opportunity to collect funds in fiat and CC, the fiat is collected by way of Paypal the organizer receives their share of the donation and the site receives its share of the donation.    For CC, depending on what the host CC sponsor is all other CCs donated to that campaign will be immediately converted to the host CC sponsor's CC and held for the duration of the campaign or until the organizer wants to use the funds to use the services of the Campaign Contractors.  In that case we will escrow all of the funds necessary for that particular transaction and upon the customer's satisfaction with the services provided the escrowed funds are released to the contractor.  feedback will be issued by the escrow agent and both parties are encouraged to leave feedback too.

In that example every CC donation was an example where the CC was used as a currency not simply as a commodity,  then whoever the host currency sponsor is is also receiving some market appreciation to the extent of all of the funds that are being converted from the donated currency to the host CC.  And lastly when the organizer used the services of the campaign contractor to do work for the campaign (video, article, music, etc...) then the host CC money is used a second time.   

I only mentioned 1 sponsorship opportunity in that example there are 5 to each account and 3 of them could have multiple sponsors. 

Oh, and because of we expect to have a sea of sponsors as well as the nature of CC in terms of microfinance we could assure each and every campaign that is approved will receive some level of funding and some level of sponsorship if they want it -- every campaign will get something.



192  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WHAT IS PICISI ? on: May 18, 2015, 05:30:37 AM
I cant believe Im saying this but Armis is a good guy. He stepped up to the plate on Einsteinium coin over a year ago, picked it up from nothing and has been working on it since.

I dont like the dude, but he's not a scammer and his intentions are legit.




I can't believe that either, wow, almost fell out until I got to the: "I don't like the dude" part then I knew it was bob and not a hijacked account.


That truly much have taken a lot out of you to do, and I'm confident it has a whole like more to do with the injustice being perpetrated against me than a simple desire to chime in, so I thank you for that because I know you mean it and really, really didn't want to do it.  

I quoted it just in case you sober up.   Grin








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Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0


193  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 05:08:55 AM
-snip-
Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

Keep asking Muhammed Zakir!  Don't let him ignore your question!   Smiley

I am in a neutral position. I still haven't "clearly" understood about PICISI. So hearing both sides...

Thank you! Where/How are you planning to store raised funds?

That's a very good question but I don't exactly understand it, please rephrase the question with elaboration.

I don't understand. If you didn't understand what I asked, how can it be a very good question?

When you raise funds, you need to store it somewhere before giving it to the person who started crowdfunding or is the funds send directly to the user's address when sponsors fund it?

Armis, please don't ignore.

Muhammed, I am not ignoring you.

When I read your question the first time I thought I understood it and simply didn't know the answer, then when I read it the second time and thought I understood it I believed I would need consultation to answer it, then when I read it the third time and thought I understood it I was going to answer it based on what I though was the question but then I realized that if my presumption was incorrect that I would be answering the wrong question and perhaps seen as dodging the question, so instead I simply asked you to rephrase the question with more detail so that I could try to understand it as you are asking.

194  Other / Meta / Re: PICISI (Philanthropic Investment and Charity for Inventions, Startups, an Ideas) on: May 18, 2015, 04:59:51 AM

This is going nowhere.  You know what you're doing is wrong (and illegal) but you won't change anything because you have a "get of jail free" card in the form of anonymity.  You don't care if most people initially think you're a charity because it helps with donations.  You're trying to see if you can build community support to continue your long con - but I believe this community is smarter than you think.

A good scam buster knows when to step back and let the scammer continue to damage himself.  That is what I'm going to do.  I'm still going to contact your sponsors/supporters (I haven't yet) and link them to the PICSIS website I'm building so you can't fool more gullible people.  This will happen in the next couple days week (I have an important exam on Tuesday I need to study for). (If you have a problem with this, you'll have to step out of the shadows and deal with me legally, like an non-scamming adult.)

But I'm done arguing in circles with you.  WHEN YOU ARE READY to address the community's issues, back your words up and make changes, contact me and I'll help you.  But don't contact me until you are sincere about your desire to do things the proper, trustworthy way.


Defend that?  What class did you learn that in?  You are deVod of any class, you are trying to extort information from me that I have absolutely no obligation to disclose and you talk about class?

You go to 7 different threads in addition to 3 PICISI sponsor thread and defame my username's character and you talk about Class, you threaten to create websites, create BCT user names, and then use them to impersonate PICISI and you talk about CLASS, no that VOD, class does no reside in the mind or heart that thinks on those things acts in those ways and refused to turn from his wickedness. 

You have no moral right to talk about class, it's be over 24 hours for you to look at the facts and make a good determination of what is actually true but instead of using that time to study the facts you used them to slander and defame my username. 

Class, you should be ashamed of yourself, and those who will protect your evil deed should be equally ashamed of themselves.
195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Great Sponsorship Opportunity For CryptoCurrency Exchange With PICISI on: May 18, 2015, 04:29:56 AM
You were trusted to try to stop scammy practices, you were trusted to try to stop fraudulent practices, you were empower to try to stop unethical behavior, but instead you not only wrongly accused someone you then proceeded to do the very same scammy, fraudulent, and unethical things you are supposed to protect us from.

You created fake accounts misrepresenting yourself as "official PICISI" accounts knowing that I have a standing claim on that name in this space.  Of course that's unethical. 

You even went as far as issuing negative feedback to the PICISI account simply because you believed it's an alt account of mine. 

You jump to conclusions hurt others then act like all should be forgiven because you 'erased' it.  Why don't you erase the evil in you heart so you don't have to keep erasing things. 
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Service Provider Sponsorship Of PICISI on: May 18, 2015, 04:27:58 AM

Oh and the nonsense didn't stop there,
 - creating a fake "official PICISI" accounts  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a fake "offical PICISI" account  - no longer is use.  Determined it was too close to your PICISI username to be ethical to use
 - creating a PICSIS account (see spelling) - can't find this username, but it wasn't created by me.
 - creating a pickissy account - the official account used by the official PICISI site.  The only account legally authorized to speak on behalf of the website.

You forgot this one:

- creating a fake "Armis_" account- not created my me.  Probably created by Armis to make me look bad.  I have left the "Armis_" account negative trust.  Feel free to let me know if you find any others.

I'm too honest and ethical to create fake accounts to try and steal donations - and the Administrators of the site can see this.

The only account that is used is Pickissy - the one that actually represents the official PICISI project.  The official PICISI site does not ask for donations.  Ignore any other user names presented to you by a known scammer.

You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.   But some how you could not see how unethical it was while you were thinking about it?

It was unethical when you thought about, that was the time to remove it, but you failed to,
it was unethical when you started the process, that was the 2nd time your conscious told you to reconsider, but you dismissed it,
it was unethical when you agreed to the terms of the site that essentially said operate by the golden rule, but you refused,
it was unethical when you used it to access the site, with that username but by this time there was no more good in you to stand for righteousness,
it was unethical when you used it to create an entry, and by this time your heart had to be beating faster because you knew or should have known that your wrong would be found out.
it was unethical when you allowed it to remain as long as you did. this is when other probably told you: "what are you doing?"  "Stop that", "take it down", "you're going to regret that", "I don't think you should do that", "that's going to be a problem for you",  "be careful with that I'm not sure if anyone is going to have your back on that" ... and only then was it "determined" that it was unethical.

and it wasn't for only one fake account, or two phony accounts, it was for at least THREE FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATIONS that you identified as unethical.  But it doesn't end there, you still created other accounts for the sole purpose of misrepresenting yourself as someone authorized to represent PICISI.  And have the audacity to claim that because the start-up hasn't started that you have the right to freely abuse and mistreat it. What are you some corporate abortionist?  

Then, after all of that you actually call yourself "honest and ethical" even after admitting to mass unethical behavior-- how pathological is that?




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Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0

197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: PICISI Project on: May 18, 2015, 04:16:36 AM
You were trusted to try to stop scammy practices, you were trusted to try to stop fraudulent practices, you were empower to try to stop unethical behavior, but instead you not only wrongly accused someone you then proceeded to do the very same scammy, fraudulent, and unethical things you are supposed to protect us from.

You created fake accounts misrepresenting yourself as "official PICISI" accounts knowing that I have a standing claim on that name in this space.  Of course that's unethical.  

You even went as far as issuing negative feedback to the PICISI account simply because you believed it's an alt account of mine.  

You jump to conclusions hurt others then act like all should be forgiven because you 'erased' it.  Why don't you erase the evil in you heart so you don't have to keep erasing things.  




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Vod is using a scammy account to give the false impression that he speaks for PICISI, but worse than that he is also actually lying when he claims that any sponsor requested a refund, not sponsor requested any refund.  In fact 1 has indicated that his next new business will also be a PICISI sponsor.

This is outrageous, not only because Vod is purporting to be associated with PICISI, but he's claiming that I said things that I didn't say in that post.  Note that the thread is locked and apparently only unlocked when Vod want to make a new entry.   That is not free speech that's libelous misrepresentation:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.0

198  Economy / Services / Re: Free Article Offer For PICISI Sponsors [ONE WEEK ONLY] on: May 18, 2015, 03:38:11 AM
You created fake accounts then later 'determine' that it was unethical then closed them.  

My guess is that someone had to tell you that it was unethical, my guess is that more than one person had to tell you it was unethical, my guess is that they repeatedly told you it was unethical, and my guess is that the evil within you simply didn't care and the bit of good in you was too weak to put up much of a defense.  Which is why you only "determined" after you were "strongly advised" to remove them.  

The evil deed was done and it was real so why'd you do it, why'd you feel a need to fraudulently represent an interest you had no genuine interest in?
What you misappropriate the name PICISI and continue to misrepresent it?

How many times have you done unethical things only to be followed by erasing it later?
How many times have you damaged someone's username's character with your wild speculations of scam, scam, scam when no scam existed?
How many time have people told you make sure of your facts before you fly off?

199  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WHAT IS PICISI ? on: May 18, 2015, 02:49:26 AM

For those wonderings
This is the real and only Official PICISI account. From the beginning, we've made it clear, that is was the only account linked Officially to PICISI.

This account is the real and the only Official PICISI account.  Your claim and usage of our company name is fraudulent, as proven by an anonymous user and an imaginary company.

Don't be fooled - it will all be explained in the website launching next week.  


I have only noticed 'he' has wrong to write the forum username : Offical PICISI.
an archive page: https://archive.is/H9KJm  (for security).

Thank you for pointing this out redsn0w - I would hate to have started my new company with a spelling mistake.

There is no need for your security, even though it is commendable.  I don't intend to delete anything - I plan on conducting myself with morals and ethics as the proud owner of the official "PICKISSY" website.      Smiley





isn't it weird that someone who is claiming an other member is a scammer, has created a false account of the Project he accuse of being a scam?

Doesn't look right.

Everything can be answered when it's not a scam, he didn't asked. He just put false accusations.

This may help answer your question:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1060460.msg11392537#msg11392537

We have created this account to stop the trademark poaching from the bitcointak username PICISI.  He does NOT represent our upcoming website or our company.

There's no credibility in your actions so far.

Hypocrite much?  You are using an anonymous account to poach our company name and solicit fraudulent donations in our company name.  No credibility in that and it makes us look bad.

We've generously given you a week.  Hope you make use of it!   Talk to you then.

The OFFICIAL PICISI account.




No one has the 'power' to proclaim himself the 'official account'. Armis has said that Official PICISI or Offical PICISI is not the official forum account of the PICISI 'project'.

The owner of the company has the right to state an official account.  The anonymous account Armis owns no company - he just pretends to, to solicit fraudulent donations.

Vod, is this your doings? Creating imposter accounts that are meant to appear be an account associated with someone that takes money from others (be it donations or otherwise) is generally considered scammy behavior. Although this may or may not be the intention, it would be very easy to use this account to get Armis's customers/sponsors/donators to give you money when that is not the intention.

I believe the intention of the Official PICISI account is to build a parody/education website dedicated to exposing long term scams, as he outlined in his post on my thread.  I believe it's covered under Fair Use and is perfectly legal, esp since Armis doesn't own any trademarks - he is just all talk.  There is no way a reasonable person would confuse the "Official PICISI" account with Armis since the website is called under a different name and Armis doesn't even have a website yet.

If there is any indication of scammy behavior on that thread - if he tries to impersonate Armis or solicit any money - if he even posts a bitcoin address - I will join you in leaving negative trust on his account.   Let's watch his Last Online and see if he is logging in to impersonate and scam.

In the meantime, let's give it a week and see what happens.  Who knows?  Armis may decide to do the right thing and step out of the shadows and I believe the Official PICSIS account when he claims he will step down and cease all operations.  

And if he doesn't, PICSIS will become the fake account since he will be poaching on a registered trademark.  Smiley






We have decided we will use this name instead - Pickissy - as our official website and forum account. This will avoid any claims that we are trying to impersonate the account "PICISI" or the scammer account "Armis".

It is the phonetic pronunciation of our website name.  Pick-issy

Pickissy - Exposing the Long Con





I, personally, no longer give a fuck about this place. It's hit the scumbaggery critical mass a while ago, it's no longer about bitcoin. It's about making money off bitcoin, about *selling* warez & hacked accounts, about loansharking and getting pickpocketed in the lending section, about running second-rate scams in the "securities" section, about buying and selling accounts, about posting shit just to get paid from a sig ad, about running ponzis and about fucking moron marks who "play" them.

Well, you must give a "fuck" if you keep posting here.  I know when I lose respect for a website I just leave.  I don't continue to engage with it.  I don't feel a need to insult the others who still go there.  And I certainly don't make a throw away account - I always stand behind my words.

But you're right about the shitfest.  It seems to come in waves - some weeks there is a lot of scamming and then other weeks there is hardly anything at all.

(Time to move on from this thread.  Look forward to the new Pickissy website next week!)







200  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Great Sponsorship Opportunity For CryptoCurrency Exchange With PICISI on: May 18, 2015, 02:44:03 AM
words backed by nothing - not worth reading

This is going nowhere.  You know what you're doing is wrong (and illegal) but you won't change anything because you have a "get of jail free" card in the form of anonymity.  You don't care if most people initially think you're a charity because it helps with donations.  You're trying to see if you can build community support to continue your long con - but I believe this community is smarter than you think.

A good scam buster knows when to step back and let the scammer continue to damage himself. That is what I'm going to do.  I'm still going to contact your sponsors/supporters (I haven't yet) and link them to the PICSIS website I'm building so you can't fool more gullible people.  This will happen in the next couple days week (I have an important exam on Tuesday I need to study for). (If you have a problem with this, you'll have to step out of the shadows and deal with me legally, like an non-scamming adult.)

But I'm done arguing in circles with you.  WHEN YOU ARE READY to address the community's issues, back your words up and make changes, contact me and I'll help you.  But don't contact me until you are sincere about your desire to do things the proper, trustworthy way.




notice that that thread was locked yesterday after Vod made his entry and was apparently unlocked to create the new post then relocked after the post.
the syntax looks familiar.

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