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3141  Local / Трейдеры / Re: доллар соскамят on: August 05, 2023, 01:57:07 PM
Нифига себе ожидаемое, доллар вроде за день 4.5 процента прибивал, а рубль как толковый шиток развалился буквально за пару дней.
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Рубль это и есть обоссаный щиток, который на плаву держат то административными мерами (запрет разной степени строгости других валют), то обнищанием населения, то не держат вовсе.
И кстати пока ничего не развалилось - рубль стараются держать хоть в каких-то адекватных рамках чтобы не обесценить долги населения. Но оттягивание неизбежного ничего не меняет: траты на войну = инфляция и никак иначе так как бабки поступают в экономику, а полезного продукта не появляется. Денежная масса растет ебейшими темпами (и в официальных планах там вообще какой-то хорор, жаль ссылку не сохранил).
3142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League ⚽ Pool Prize Fund (0.1 btc) on: August 05, 2023, 01:40:08 PM
I officially joined (transaction number and login sent by PM). Unfortunately, it seems that I have little chance of being in touch and managing the team all the time - the site itself blocks requests from my country (on PC it blocks me even when using VPN). I was able to register using VPN on my smartphone, but it is very unreliable for me. I hope I find some solution.
You have other unofficial apps for managing your team. I was using one of them 3 seasons ago since it was even better than official one but went from free to paid and i dropped it. Try to google and see if something is available now.

To begin with, I must understand the official interface so as not to get confused. But thanks for the advice.

Is it Russia?

VPS seems to work - go to Services section and look for hosting providers, and then set up a proxy on one of those.

(I don't need a VPS but this just for your information. You can get them for as low as $5 per month.)

Tor Browser might also work.

Yep, it is. I recently bought a ProtonVPN for a period of two years, so I'm trying to squeeze all the juice out of it so that my spending pays off  Grin But I understand that it's time to make my own VPN on the VPS, I just don't have much time to do it.
By the way, from a PC I can connect to ProtonVPN servers only for those which use tor, and in this case the site blocks me. It turns out it does not let anyone through the tor. On a smartphone, I connect without using tor and everything works.
3143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How real?That football players required to bribe before they are allowed to play on: August 05, 2023, 01:34:12 PM
An interesting story and I think that there is nothing new here - this is the norm for backward corrupted countries. Involvement in the national team of the country can give a good boost to the career of a young player, so this opportunity is monetized in backward countries. Many talented football players because of this do not have the opportunity to show themselves. It's good that in the case of Mbappe, everything turned out in favor of the player.
3144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [banned mixer] 🦁 Fantasy Premier League ⚽ Pool Prize Fund (0.1 btc) on: August 05, 2023, 11:52:46 AM
I officially joined (transaction number and login sent by PM). Unfortunately, it seems that I have little chance of being in touch and managing the team all the time - the site itself blocks requests from my country (on PC it blocks me even when using VPN). I was able to register using VPN on my smartphone, but it is very unreliable for me. I hope I find some solution.
3145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 04, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
Griezmann is still a fresh signing for Atletico Madrid and the only way he can leave if one of the saudi teams offers a lot of money. They already wasted a lot so this can still happen. Griezmann isnt that young anymore so this option still isnt off the table. Transfer window in saudi arabia is longer then europe for 3 weeks so still things can happen.

Griezmann is not a "fresh" signing for Atlético, it's just that he was initially on loan with an option to renew and buy. It is a pity that he did not find a better option than Atlético, where he has a conflict with Simeone and where, due to the style of play, he cannot fully reveal his talent. If he goes to Saudi Arabia, it will also be sad.
3146  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 04, 2023, 09:22:27 PM
I think the final transfer decision of Harry Kane future speculation will be made this week. That is if tottenham rejects the last offer it means harry kane will stay at tottenham next season until his contract expires. So, if we look at the offer from Bayern Munich, of course it has exceeded what Tottenham wanted because Tottenham wanted €100 million, but Bayern Munich sent a final bid of €120 million to be able to convince Tottenham to accept their offer.
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I wonder where you got the numbers? Tottenham initially wanted 150m and according to the news today, Bayern made a final offer of 100m + bonuses. According to sources, Bayern is waiting for an answer today, if Tottenham does not agree, then there will be no new proposal.
Personally, I would be interested to see Kane in Bayern, but on the other hand, Tottenham began to annoy me and I want to see Kane get out of there for free  Grin
3147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: August 04, 2023, 09:15:54 PM
The usual story is that a lot of people who get a lot of money in one way or another, but do not know how to handle it, fall back into poverty again. If I'm not mistaken in the USA a couple of years ago they even made a film about a janitor who won the jackpot (several tens or even hundreds of millions), but after several years of entertainment, he returned to work as a janitor. And this movie was based on a true story.
3148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 04, 2023, 08:47:00 PM
PSG are about to create a new trio in the attacking line with Dembele and Goncalo Ramos additions. These are the first steps of a big change at this team after Messi's departure. There is more to come after Mbappe leaves next summer most probably. Even when they had Messi, Mbappe and Neymar at the same time it didn't work out well for the Champions League.

Therefore I think change is good in this kind of situations. Who knows maybe the new version of this team in Luis Enrique's lead can do much better things. The team are getting younger with these transfers in the recent times too. I'm curious about their Champions League performance this season.

So you think when the attacking line consisted of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar and it was not enough to win the Champions League that they must change the attacking line in order to have a chance to win it? Isn't it possible that the team has more and other problems than the attacking line?

Dembele isn't better than Mbappe or Messi and we will have to see whether he is missing most of the season or whether he is fit and available.

The PSG experiment has shown that you can buy the Ligue 1 title with money so to say, but you can't buy the Champions League title.

Of course this is so. Mbappe can be left "as is". Neymar must be forced not to get injured and to maintain discipline. Messi must be forced to move around the field at normal speed and take part in defensive actions. I think it is clear that the last two points are unrealistic, so ideally the players should be replaced (Messi has already left, but Neymar is still not).
Regarding the experiment - the whole difference is in the format of the tournament. You can buy a round robin tournament, and in a tournament with a playoff stage, the variance is high. If the Champions League was a round robin, PSG would have already bought the title.
3149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 04, 2023, 08:31:23 PM
I am 100% sure that until the decisive stages (when the title is already close) like the 1/4 finals, Liverpool will play the second (rotated) squad. Therefore, in such competitions, I will not bet on them (and I do not advise anyone) even when they play against a much weaker opponent. The odds will not cover the risk. In addition, in the group stage, the club always has the right to make several mistakes, and in the playoff stage, to one.

As for the coating squad, I think for things like this you have to look depending on the opponent they will face.
At the moment we also still don't know who the opponent for Liverpool will be, although indeed the possibility for them to win is something absolute regardless of whoever the opponent is because for the Europa League it is clear that most of those competing are dark horse clubs so it is natural for Liverpool to be the favourite for this competition.
As for the group phase I think the scenario is that they will look for points first until they are actually declared qualified for the group phase after that then it is up to them to make some experiments even though certainly for the first few matches they must try to get points.

Liverpool will be a seeded team, so they will have at least 2 very weak clubs in the group and the likelihood that Liverpool will not be able to qualify (even if they play all the games with a rotated squad) will be extremely small. And in fact, the Europa League will not be a desirable title for Liverpool compared to the Premier League, so it will be the second priority. Even taking into account the fact that Liverpool loves to collect all the cups in which it takes part, I will not bet on it.
3150  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ São Paulo FC ⚽ Prediction Contest ⚽ (Sunday, August 6) on: August 04, 2023, 07:19:32 PM
a.  Draw
b.  2-2
c.  SPFC
d.  Over
e.  Yes
f.  Tiebreaker:  15'
3151  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io - UFC on ESPN 50 - Multi Master Challenge - (Saturday) on: August 04, 2023, 07:15:49 PM
11. Cory Sandhagen
10. Jessica Andrade
9. Dustin Jacoby
8. Gavin Tucker
7. Tanner Boser
6. Ignacio Bahamondes
5. Raoni Barcelos
4. Jeremiah Wells
3. Billy Quarantillo
2. Jake Hadley
1. Ode Osbourne

NOT go the Full Distance 6
3152  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io 🥊 Jake Paul vs. Nate Diaz 🥊 (Saturday, August 5) on: August 04, 2023, 07:14:34 PM
1. Draw
2. Draw
3. 0
4. Paul
3153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 04, 2023, 07:11:33 PM
Have you heard that Klopp is asking UEFA and FIFA to deal with the activity of Saudi clubs, arguing that the transfer windows in Europe and Saudi Arabia do not coincide in time? I wonder what he proposes - to extend the transfer window in Europe or to reduce it in Saudi Arabia? But even if this is done, the Saudi clubs will still have more money to poach players - and Klopp is 100% hinting at this problem.
I have never heard of that from Kloop but I have had Pep Guardiola say that the Saudi league has a real threat. I think many European team coaches are starting to feel apprehensive about the big transfers made by the Saudi league team, but we also cannot completely stop this activity as long as no one violates the rules. Now we can know that regardless of the duration of the transfer time, many European players will still join the Saudi league team because they are chasing a higher salary than being in a European team.



Besides that, if we look at the money that has been spent so far this season, the saudi league is in 5th place and even La Liga doesn't have the big passion to make big transfers like other top European leagues.

There are many articles on this topic, for example here:

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Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp urges FIFA to intervene against Saudi Pro League
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230802-liverpool-manager-jurgen-klopp-urges-fifa-to-intervene-against-saudi-pro-league/

It is clear that the question is not at all in the timing of transfer windows, but in the financial competition that Saudi clubs easily win at the expense of money.
By the way, the statistics you provided are interesting, but they do not at all reflect the real pressure from the Saudi clubs, because they do not take into account the signing of free agents. By signing free agents for bigger salaries (and big bonuses), Saudi clubs are forcing English clubs to spend more - but that pressure doesn't make it into this statistic.
3154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Collective bets in local lotteries on: August 04, 2023, 06:56:40 PM
I didn't hear this in my local country, but is it risky because, let's say, you'll be in a group of 50 and sum up money to buy a ticket, but again, only one person will be doing it? Let's say what happens if you win or if your group wins, and that member will then claim it because he has the lottery ticket, and he will just run away to another city unless all people are trusted there, but again, when it comes to money, we know that people change their minds and can do bad things, and lastly, it is still not guaranteed that you'll win it, so it is still better to bet alone.

This is a very good clarification, because this minus overlaps all other pluses. When it comes to big money, even those people who were honest, in other circumstances changes (or shows their true colors). Therefore, if I participated in such group bets, then only in some legally formalized form. Like LLC. I would like to know if there are such firms with the provision of such services.
3155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 04, 2023, 06:43:08 PM
By the way, Liverpool and Chelsea will have an additional advantage in the Premier League - both of these clubs will not participate in the Champions League (and Chelsea will not be in European competition at all) so they will be able to concentrate on one tournament. They can even plan the season in a radically different way without trying to bring the team to peak shape during the Champions League playoffs.
Liverpool may still be a little troubled in the Europa League even though I still feel confident they will pass the group phase easily but still their schedule will still be as much. but for Chelsea now they can focus on being in the competition in the EPL especially this is also a transitional phase for them where last season's performance will definitely still be a lot of people who are sceptical.
But obviously their schedule is lighter, this should be more power for them to improve their position well and be able to return to European competition next season.
The challenge for Tuchel and Chelsea with a new face is a separate pressure for them.

I am 100% sure that until the decisive stages (when the title is already close) like the 1/4 finals, Liverpool will play the second (rotated) squad. Therefore, in such competitions, I will not bet on them (and I do not advise anyone) even when they play against a much weaker opponent. The odds will not cover the risk. In addition, in the group stage, the club always has the right to make several mistakes, and in the playoff stage, to one.
3156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It's safe to say - gambling is a guy thing. on: August 04, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
If you look at other statistics like the number of people in prison, homeless people, successful people, etc. everywhere the largest percentage are men. It is obvious that men are more radical (due to testosterone?) and if they are fond of something, they go to the end. Gambling is another area where this theory works.
from some of the replies, your reply I really understand and this is the right answer. because it is obvious that men are more dominant in making money or it can be said that men have the responsibility to earn more money with any business.
on one because of destiny men have a mindset that often likes to take risks for the sake of success to get money but for women have a mindset that is very careful in spending their money. so that very many men are successful and the rest are only a few women who are successful with any business and this is as much gambling as you say.

If you look at the top of the pyramid, then men are certainly dominant, but I think (if you remember about all their negative records) that it is worth taking some average indicators - it is obvious that there are more women in the middle of the pyramid. Therefore, probably on average, no one dominates. If we draw a gambling analogy, then men are the ones who go all in more often (and obviously as a result they dominate among the total losers and among those who win the most) and women play more carefully.
3157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is Gamble gaining more fans than Bitcoin? on: August 04, 2023, 06:32:12 PM
Weird question. Gambling is an ancient reliable and simple business, just like baking bread. Even if there is a total adoption, gambling will still be more popular than bitcoin, and I'm talking not only about investing in bitcoin (there are always much fewer investors than ordinary users), but about all areas of application in general.

that's simple fact that we all know about. so there's no discussion here. gambling will always prevail no matter what currency we have, fiat, crypto or other type of currency. gambling has been with the humankind ever since. currency may evolve into different types, but gambling will always be gambling. so there's no surprise to why gambling is more popular than bitcoin. btc is just one currency that they can use for this type of entertainment.

That is why such questions are not just incorrect, but one might say manipulative. It will always be possible to say "despite the efforts of the community, even after 20 (30, 40, etc.) years, bitcoin is still much less popular than eating meat"  Grin
If you talk about gambling and bitcoin, then you can talk about the share of bitcoin in gambling (this share always remains very large despite the fact that altcoins have many advantages in some senses).
3158  Local / Разное / Re: Майнинг 2023 жив! (не крипта) on: August 04, 2023, 10:51:22 AM
Опять небольшой промежуточный пост. Навалю сумбура, так как времени структурировать всё нет.

Во-первых, в предыдущих постах я писал про возникшую проблему утечки памяти. Что меня бесит удивляет, так это то что ни на форуме разрабов конкретной игры, ни гуглеж "общего" случая не дает никаких полезных решений кроме откровенно дегенеративных типа "проверьте обновлены ли у вас драйвера". Что самое странное что гуглеж программ которые бы эту проблему решали тоже ничего не дает (в англосреде тоже), хотя по форумам и результатам поиска очевидно что проблема актуальна везде.
Решение мне посоветовал фермер из другой сферы и это буквально прога которую кто-то сам делает и поддерживает на коленке:

https://www.henrypp.org/product/memreduct

Устанавливать на свой страх и риск, хз ворует ли она битки  Cheesy у меня используется на майнинг компах и работает идеально.

Во-вторых, как все слышали у Киви возникли проблемы (вплоть до блокировок счетов), так что прошу пожаловать сюда если кому есть что сказать:

Как в рф вольготно крутить фиат?

Лично я радуюсь своей стратегии иметь полностью "чистые" направления и в целом не смешивать их - меня блокировка никак не коснулась (2 карты).

В-третьих собственно по майнингу: долгосрочная негативная тенденция пока что себя не проявила, а прибыль от изменения механики игры весьма ощутима. Кратко: разрабы сделали возможность копить (фейспалм) прокачку. Т.е. вместо того чтобы прокачивать конкретный шмот можно вкачивать опыт в книги, а потом когда надо за 5 сек прокачать нужный шмот (даже если он только что появился в игре). Мой плюс в том что я теперь сам выбираю что и когда качать и прокачка не теряется вообще - если раньше я ставил на ночь комплект вещей одна из которых была прокачана на 0%, другая на 10%, третья может вообще на 50%, то очевидно что какая-то вещь уже была полностью прокачана к 4-5 утра (а я встаю в 9) и дальнейшая прокачка просто терялась. А теперь не теряется ничего. Так что работаю в ненапряжном режиме. Вывел 60к.
3159  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: August 04, 2023, 10:11:43 AM
Я хз что это за стандарт такой, это вопрос из области: чем лучше торговать - яблоками на рынке или нефть танкерами возить. Этими вещами занимаются совсем разные люди. И промышленный манинг именно таков: всегда стремится к среднерыночной рентабельности (которая весьма и весьма низка) и понятно что изменение цены одной из основных статей расходов на 50% очень сильно влияет на всё.
Майнеры поднимались с пары десятков своих асиков до контейнера за год или меньше. Когда хорошая окупаемость, инвестора придут и цена ЭЭ здесь самый главный источник профита. Как бы если есть розетка, то разрешения не нужны.

Подняться с нуля до контейнера асиков можно за день - просто купив его. А вот в доходность которая позволяет так расширяться не верю - уж я за ценами на асики долго следил и там всегда окупаемость больше года (а еще и срок поставки если мы говорим про новые несколько месяцев обычно). И все мы видели как цены на лопаты иксуют когда рынок иксует. А в схеме привлечения инвесторов асики принадлежат инвесторам.

Это да. Но непонятно почему вы в одном месте пишите "никто не поверит и все будет заебись" а тут с реальным взглядом на вещи  Wink
так статьи разные, по злоупотреблению или по незаконной коммерции майнеров привлекают, но с финансированием СБУ не лишнего для колхозника?

Так если у вас нет истории ходок и куполов на спине вам будет +- одинаково неприятно получить срок что в 3 года что в 20. Одинаково шокирующе я бы сказал, понятно что 3 и 20 сильно отличаются.
Да, и вы когда рассуждаете о рфских "судах" вы не забывайте (если есть опыт) что это сильно отличается от магазина/сделки типа - вот я выберу то или то или то. Следователь например блефанет тем что судопроизводство переведет в закрытый режим (где и адвокат не поможет) раз уж вы занимались "терроризмом спонсируя СБУ", и когда на кону ваша жизнь (20 лет в рфских тюрьмах лол) вскрывать его блеф вряд ли вам захочется  Wink
3160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you cheat in gambling? on: August 03, 2023, 08:51:33 PM
That will depend entirely on the morality or the ethics of that person, I am quite sure the majority of the gamblers out there will never think about cheating the casino even if the financial gain could be high, however there is also a small number of gamblers out there which are looking for bugs or even trying to find ways to provoke them, and it is clear that for gamblers like that if they happen to find a bug they will take advantage of it immediately and hope for the best at the moment they ask for a withdrawal.

You can probably assume that these are two completely different categories of gamblers. The first visits the casino for entertainment, and the second only for the sake of earning money (even if it is illegal). The second category, in fact, is not even gamblers - after all, if they try to deceive the casino in a criminal way, then in other areas they are ready for crime.
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