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3161  Economy / Economics / Re: Americans Taxed $400 Billion For Fiber Optic Internet That Doesn’t Exist on: May 16, 2018, 11:51:52 PM
We should ask ourselves where does all these money go in the first place, The government should be able to account to the people because this seems like a fraudulent case to me.

It might be fraudulent but it is a standard practice for the US government.

Another example where this happens is social security. For sake of discussion let's say that social security liabilities are $1 trillion(this is a random made up number btw, uncertain what the real numbers are). If the US government collects $1.2 trillion in social security taxes, they always spend the excess $0.2 trillion on things that have nothing to do with social security. This is why social security is known to post "negative returns"(as a program it pays negative interest). If a person invests $400,000 into social security during their lifetime, they might only receive $200,000 back. Its due to the federal government spending the excess on an assortment of other things for a period of time spanning decades.

It should be mentioned there is something known as a "social security surplus". The title fools people into believing that the government holds taxes collected for social security in trust. The "ss surplus" is a collection of US treasury bonds held in an effort to back the program similar to how gold once backed fiat currencies. It is not a real surplus the way people might expect.

A lot of people know this and are aware of this but its not a topic that is often discussed. Definitely not a topic likely to come up in school or university classrooms. The only views a student is likely to come into contact with are pro socialist or pro big government perspectives. It is dangerous, many state run programs like social security will inevitably fail due to them being unsustainable via method of implementation. Details of why these programs are unsustainable are seldom if ever mentioned & there is little discussion on it. All of which are crucial if problems society faces are ever to be addressed and issues like deficit and debt are ever to be reformed in a way that is effective.

People assume governments make good decisions and can be trusted to responsibly and intelligently manage things like fiat currencies. Perhaps that view should be questioned and there is a real potential for things like crypto currencies to handle money better than institutions like banks or governments can. So there could be a potential tie in for bitcoin as well as far as these types of issues go.
3162  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining equipment sales expected to drop on: May 16, 2018, 11:25:28 PM
Nvidia has announced that they expect sales of GPUs related to cryptocurrency mining to drop by about 67% in the current quarter. That's a pretty monstrous drop, and if mining investment is a leading indicator of overall market demand for crypto, it would follow that this decreased demand in mining equipment foretells decreased demand for crypto generally.

Nvidia's estimates could be inaccurate by a significant degree. Last month amazon was expected to post earnings of $1.24 per share. Their real earnings were $3.27 per share. There's a chance this could represent a new method of publishing anti crypto FUD and not have much relation to actual statistics.

Of course, there are other potential angles. Back in january 2018, it was reported a number of chinese bitcoin mining operations were forced to shut down:

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China Quietly Orders Closing of Bitcoin Mining Operations

Move tightens a clampdown that already has shut exchanges for trading of cryptocurrencies in China

Chinese authorities ordered the closing of operations that create a large share of the world’s supply of bitcoin, tightening a clampdown that has already shuttered exchanges for the trading of cryptocurrencies in China.

A multiagency government task force overseeing risks in Internet finance issued a notice last week ordering local authorities to “guide” the shutdown of operations that produce, or “mine,” cryptocurrencies, according to the notice and people familiar with the information.

While the notice called for an “orderly exit” without setting a deadline, far-flung areas of China where cryptocurrency mining operations have flourished are complying. A local regulatory official in the far western region Xinjiang said Wednesday that his agency received the notice and is doing “what the country wants.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-quietly-orders-closing-of-bitcoin-mining-operations-1515594021

China supposedly represents "78.9%" of all bitcoin mining. This type of across the board shutdown could have significant effects.

It is possible a deluge of crypto mining hardware is being dumped en masse as chinese mining operations fold. This could create a significant decrease in demand on increased supply, over the short term.

We know for certain the higher the price of bitcoin, the more lucrative and profitable it is to mine crypto. With the price of bitcoin rising near $10,000 mining operations become more profitable across the board. "A rising tide, lifts all ships." If the price of bitcoin rises above $10k demand for mining hardware should increase as the market becomes more profitable.

If chinese miners are dumping their hardware, resulting in overall lower hashrates, we could see a fall in mining difficulty which could also fuel demand for mining hardware.

Good topic OP. Hopefully we'll have some good replies in this thread. Would merit if I had any left to give.
3163  Economy / Economics / Russian bank helps Venezuela defy US cryptocurrency sanctions on: May 15, 2018, 11:39:58 PM
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CARACAS, Venezuela — Investors looking to buy Venezuela’s new cryptocurrency may want to head to a little-known Moscow bank whose biggest shareholders are President Nicolas Maduro’s socialist government and two state-controlled Russian companies under U.S. sanctions.

Evrofinance Mosnarbank has emerged as the only international financial institution so far willing to defy a U.S. campaign to derail the world’s first state-backed digital currency, called the petro, even before it begins to function.

Early would-be investors who registered with Venezuela’s government and downloaded the petro’s wallet software — available in Spanish, English and Russian — were then invited to buy the cryptocurrency by wiring a minimum of 1,000 euros to a Venezuelan government account at Evrofinance.

The bank’s place in the rollout of the petro is further evidence of Russia’s role in the creation of a cryptocurrency that much of the digital world has shunned but that Maduro hopes will allow Venezuela to circumvent U.S. financial sanctions imposed last year.

At the petro’s launch on Feb. 21, Maduro heaped praise on two Russians in the audience who worked with wealthy, Kremlin-connected businessmen, thanking their previously unknown startups — Zeus Exchange and Aerotrading — for their role developing what he joked would be a kind of “kryptonite” against U.S. economic dominance.

A day later, he dispatched his economy minister to Moscow to brief his Russian finance counterpart.

And in March, the Russian Association of Cryptocurrency and Blockchain awarded the Venezuelan government an award for its role “challenging the de-facto powers of the international financial system.”

Russia’s interest in the petro stems from its own increasingly pariah status in the west, said Claiborne W. Porter, the former head of the U.S. Justice Department’s bank integrity unit. As relations with the U.S. and European Union become more tense, both countries are looking for ways to demonstrate political strength while moving money outside the American financial system.

“Like kids on the playground, Venezuela and Russia think they are fighting a common bully in U.S. sanctions, so they’re going to try and form a united front,” said Porter, who is now the Washington-based head of investigations at consulting firm Navigant.

Russia has provided Venezuela with billions in debt relief over the years and is a major investor in the country’s oil industry. That financial lifeline has become more important since the Trump administration last year banned Americans from lending money to the nearly bankrupt government and now threatens to slap sanctions on the OPEC nation’s oil industry if Maduro goes ahead with presidential elections this month that are widely seen as a sham. In March, Trump signed an executive order banning Americans from any dealings with the petro.

Evrofinance and its executives didn’t return repeated email requests for comment. But after The Associated Press’ inquiries, all references to the bank were removed from the petro’s wallet, leaving prospective buyers with no guidance on how to actually buy it, though it’s still listed for sale in rubles and euros as well as three other widely circulated cryptocurrencies.

Venezuela’s government purchased a 49 percent stake in Evrofinance in 2011, making the bank, which traces its history back a century as a western financial outpost for the Soviet Union, a vehicle for binational trade and investment projects, with almost $800 million in assets.

The rest of the shares are held by two major banks, state-controlled VTB and Gazprombank, which were sanctioned by the U.S. and European nations in 2014 over President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea.

It’s unclear how many petros the government has sold. Maduro boasted this month that the government had raised $3.3 billion in the pre-sale phase. But so far only a small fraction of the petros appears to have been distributed to buyers, according to the blockchain where the digital currency’s movements can be publicly tracked.

Experts say that the petro is of little interest to foreigners other than drug traffickers and others active in Venezuela’s burgeoning criminal underworld. Even offshore trading platforms like Bitfinex are refusing to deal in the petro for fear of violating sanctions. Rating website ICOindex.com, which tracks initial coin offerings of cryptocurrencies, called it a “scam.”

“An overwhelming majority of ICOs don’t deliver on what they promise because their promoters are outright scammers or fall short on technical expertise,” said Alejandro Machado, a Venezuelan-born computer scientist who consults for crypto startups. “In the case of the Venezuelan government, both reasons apply.”

One of the two Russians who signed agreements with Maduro to position the petro globally, Denis Druzhkov, had been fined $31,000 and barred for three years by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for fraudulent trading in futures’ contracts. Zeus Exchange, which Druzhkov created alongside a Kremlin-connected industrialist, said in a statement that it has never had any business ties with the Venezuelan government and that Druzhkov resigned after abusing his authority.

The other, Fedor Bogorodskiy, used to help run the credit card division at a bank controlled by a Russian oligarch. He has lived in Uruguay since 2009, combining telecommunications business with part-time promotion of Russian culture. He told The AP that his company, Aerotrading, whose website consists of a single home page with no company information, immediately ceased all work on the petro after Trump announced his ban.

Despite the pressure, Maduro is showing no signs of slowing down. He’s given government institutions — from ministries to airports — 120 days to start accepting the petro as legal tender in all transactions. He’s also paved the way for the creation of 16 local exchanges where Venezuelans will be able to purchase petros with their fast-depreciating bolivars. Also in the works is a second state-backed cryptocurrency tied to the country’s gold reserves.

But gaining international acceptance remains an uphill battle.

Yuri Pripachkin, president of the Russian blockchain group that honored Venezuela, said that while the Kremlin is keeping a close eye on the petro it hasn’t been involved in its development. Still, he said as long as sanctions are used as a foreign policy tool to punish governments that challenge U.S. policies, the incentives to seek out alternative means of financing will remain. He also dismissed the idea that the petro could be used to fund criminal activity.

“That’s a fairy tale,” said Pripachkin. “The most popular currency for terrorists and criminals the world over is the U.S. dollar, not crypto, and nobody is suggesting we ban dollars. This is just an attempt to stop crypto from expanding.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-bank-helps-venezuela-defy-us-cryptocurrency-sanctions/2018/05/14/5b9c2988-5788-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html

Update on venezuela's petro as well as russia's alleged involvement.

There were a few interesting quotations made:

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An overwhelming majority of ICOs don’t deliver on what they promise because their promoters are outright scammers or fall short on technical expertise,” said Alejandro Machado, a Venezuelan-born computer scientist who consults for crypto startups. “In the case of the Venezuelan government, both reasons apply.”

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He also dismissed the idea that the petro could be used to fund criminal activity.

That’s a fairy tale,” said Pripachkin. “The most popular currency for terrorists and criminals the world over is the U.S. dollar, not crypto, and nobody is suggesting we ban dollars. This is just an attempt to stop crypto from expanding.”

Summary: Maduro issued an ultimatum to government institutions ranging from ministries to airports. They have 120 days to begin accepting the petro as legal tender in all transactions. Maduro also plans to issue a second crypto currency backed by venezuela's gold. It appears not much of the petro altcoin has been sold.

This is also of interest:

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One of the two Russians who signed agreements with Maduro to position the petro globally, Denis Druzhkov, had been fined $31,000 and barred for three years by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for fraudulent trading in futures’ contracts. Zeus Exchange, which Druzhkov created alongside a Kremlin-connected industrialist, said in a statement that it has never had any business ties with the Venezuelan government and that Druzhkov resigned after abusing his authority.

The other, Fedor Bogorodskiy, used to help run the credit card division at a bank controlled by a Russian oligarch. He has lived in Uruguay since 2009, combining telecommunications business with part-time promotion of Russian culture. He told The AP that his company, Aerotrading, whose website consists of a single home page with no company information, immediately ceased all work on the petro after Trump announced his ban.

Looks like there are serious attempts being made to crackdown on anyone who offers support for the petro.
3164  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make money on cryptocurrency if you are a businessman or investor on: May 15, 2018, 11:05:42 PM
There could be a few basic methods of making money via crypto available to anyone.

The easiest and most basic is to buy candy from an online retailer (preferably @ discount) which offers free shipping. Sell candy @ school, church, public events @ a price markup to produce profits.

Another method: purchasing goods from online retailers which fall under a "clearance" or "discount" category (with free shipping) and reselling for a higher price utilizing ebay or another e-commerce/auction platform.

With amazon gift cards being more difficult to obtain both of these methods are more difficult now for US residents.

They might be more preferable to other methods like trading crypto as profits are based upon a set percentage of price markup and don't carry as steep of a learning curve. There are documented cases of people starting a small business buying "clearance" items and reselling @ a higher price where they succeeded in making millions of dollars.

This man for example:

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28-year-old makes millions buying from Walmart, selling on Amazon

It seems too easy to be true that you could make millions by raiding the clearance aisle at your local Walmart or Target and then selling your haul on Amazon. But that's exactly what 28-year-old Ryan Grant is doing.

Only four years after quitting his accounting job in Minneapolis, Minn., to flip purchases full-time, his business is making seven-figure profits.

"Pretty early on I realized I wasn't in the career path that I wanted to be on," he tells CNBC Make It. "That experience really had me looking for other options and I was starting to explore ways that I could basically leave that job and have my own schedule and be on my own time."

To do that, Grant turned to the side hustle he had used to make ends meet in college.

As a student at Winona State University, he organized textbook buyback events on campus twice a year. He listed the books on Amazon and shipped them out to customers around the country for a profit of up to $10,000 a year.

The process worked simply enough: Using the Amazon Seller app he could see exactly how much he could expect to profit on each book and in what time frame. But the hours spent processing and packaging each order himself proved to be a bit much.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/28-year-old-makes-millions-buying-from-walmart-selling-on-amazon/ar-AAupB8i
3165  Economy / Economics / German online bank uses Bitcoins to transfer loans on: May 15, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
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BERLIN (Reuters) - German Radoslav Albrecht has founded an online bank that allows clients to transfer loans anywhere in the world using Bitcoin.

Bitbond uses cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin to bypass the Swift international transfer system to lend money across the globe rapidly and at low cost.

“Traditional money transfers are relatively costly due to currency exchange fees, and can take up to a few days,” Albrecht told Reuters TV in his office in Berlin’s fashionable neighborhood Prenzlauer Berg. “With Bitbond, payments work independently of where customers are. Via internet it is very, very quick and the fees are low.”

Clients hold the loans in digital tokens like Bitcoin only for seconds or minutes until they are exchanged back into the currency of the country where they wish to receive the funds, avoiding the crypto currencies fluctuating exchange rates.

Bitcoin has been used as collateral for loans, but never as a way of transferring credit in currency internationally.

Albrecht’s service has been growing in popularity among clients since he launched the company in 2013. His office employs 24 people from 12 countries who manage loans for 100 clients amounting to around $1 million each month.

Most clients are small business owners or freelance workers, Albrecht says. Loans are relatively small and don’t exceed 50,000 dollars. In 2016, Bitbond was officially licensed as a bank and has gained many investors since.

Adoption of Bitcoin has been rapid in Germany. It trails only the U.S., according to Bitnodes, which tracks the location of all the Bitcoin nodes that transmit data about new transactions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-bitcoin/german-online-bank-uses-bitcoins-to-transfer-loans-idUSKBN1ID07Y

One area bitcoin hasn't enjoyed much utilization is in loan markets. Many bitcoin loan based start ups had difficulties with lack of support in terms of collateral, background checks, creditchex and similar systems utilized by banks to streamline the loan process and make them more reliable. Looks like this small german bank has stepped in to fill the vacuum and it appears to be enjoying success.

Hopefully this will be an indication of future progress with crypto based loans and we'll see other start ups embrace this trend by offering greater support for this. It is possible their loan process carries a lot of scrutiny and it may be doubtful that crypto based loans will ever rival fiat loans in terms of convenience, rapid deployment or ease of use. As crypto loans become more prevalent we could see better frameworks and solutions to issues which have plagued the industry in the past and so perhaps this is a sign progress will be made.
3166  Economy / Economics / Re: Americans Taxed $400 Billion For Fiber Optic Internet That Doesn’t Exist on: May 15, 2018, 09:37:54 PM
OP, I am just trying to figure out how this has anything to do with Bitcoin?

Its been said one of the reasons for high bitcoin demand is lack of confidence in governments and elected officials. People lose faith in governments printing excess money while being burdened under massive deficit and debt and seek safer, more reliable alternatives, to store their wealth. If the article in OP illustrates reasons people should not trust government fiat, it could benefit bitcoin and rightfully increase the value of crypto.

Some believe bitcoin should be regulated. They say heavy taxes on bitcoin will create positive tangible benefits in the economy or elsewhere. This could serve as an example of how a government could conceivably tax bitcoin (or something else) $400 billion dollars and fail to provide promised benefits. If this represents our status quo rather than an isolated incident, it could be better for bitcoin to be taxed @ a low rate and be deregulated(as many nations adopting crypto are currently doing).

This is in favor of bitcoin and crypto being taxed @ low rates and hopefully serves as an example of how blindly relying on governments or regulation to fix our problems and save us from evil, isn't necessarily the best option available.

It could reveal flaws in centralized government and lends support to governments which are more decentralized within an abstract where there is enough competition for large scale budgetary bloat and waste to be reduced(if possible).

I don't want to tell people what to think or believe & would prefer if they drew their own conclusions(hence vague posts).

Even if there are no crypto implications, it could still serve a purpose. We might say the more informed and educated people are the better equipped they are able to make good decisions and support the things which are best for them, their friends and families. The better the decisions people make, the better off crypto and bitcoin are. Any post that is somewhat informative and educational could have value to crypto hodlers as it could allow people to know more and make more educated decisions, et al.
3167  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook CoFounder Wants $3 Trillion Tax On Rich To Fund Universal Basic Income on: May 15, 2018, 02:23:16 AM
Universal Basic Income doesn't work, it makes people less motivated to work as they're receiving money for just breathing. People need to work, it's the thing that stimulates. Plus the fact that UBI isn't even working in nations it's being tried in now, why ruin the USA with it?

Hey squatz, you're a good poster on these forums, I hope you don't mind me offering a different perspective here.   Smiley

Here's an old article depicting one potential reason why UBI could work in the USA. Its hosted on think progress with the title: "Americans have spent enough money on a broken plane to buy every homeless person a mansion".


AN F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER IN ITS NATURAL HABITAT: ON THE GROUND CREDIT: AP PHOTO/LOCKHEED MARTIN

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Just days before its international debut at an airshow in the United Kingdom, the entire fleet of the Pentagon’s next generation fighter plane — known as the F-35 II Lightning, or the Joint Strike Fighter — has been grounded, highlighting just what a boondoggle the project has been. With the vast amounts spent so far on the aircraft, the United States could have worked wonders, including providing every homeless person in the U.S. a $600,000 home.

It’s hard to argue against the need to modernize aircraft used to defend the country and counter enemies overseas, especially if you’re a politician. But the Joint Strike Fighter program has been a mess almost since its inception, with massive cost overruns leading to its current acquisition price-tag of $398.6 billion — an increase of $7.4 billion since last year. That breaks down to costing about $49 billion per year since work began in 2006 and the project is seven years behind schedule. Over its life-cycle, estimated at about 55 years, operating and maintaining the F-35 fleet will cost the U.S. a little over $1 trillion. By contrast, the entirety of the Manhattan Project — which created the nuclear bomb from scratch — cost about $55 billion in today’s dollars.

Link: https://thinkprogress.org/americans-have-spent-enough-money-on-a-broken-plane-to-buy-every-homeless-person-a-mansion-

If bloat and waste were eliminated from budgets, like that of the F-35, with state spending being more streamlined and efficient. UBI could become unaffordable. If I remember right, there are countries like denmark which can afford to give college students something like a $1,000 to $2,000 stipend for university/higher education.

Money may not so much the issue as it may be dysfunctionality, nepotism and waste on the part of the state.
3168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Supreme Court Overturns a Decades Long Ban on Sports Betting on: May 15, 2018, 01:31:53 AM
Donald Trump said he would try to get this passed if he were elected.   Smiley

Trump made his fortune in real estate. There's a story about Trump trying to build a casino in florida, years ago. He couldn't do it then and was blocked by lawmakers. This is a point the media attacked him on at least once. Being an owner of real estate puts Trump in a good position to build casinos which could be more profitable than hotels or things Trump normally builds. It probably will be money in the bank for him.

That said, I think many americans universally support this. There is economic good in the form of higher tax revenues, job creation and other benefits which com from introducing an entirely new industry into a state. This gives lawmakers yet another option aside from marijuana legalization or crypto adoption to boost much needed economic growth. One of the most talked about strategies for reducing deficit and debt via tax revenues growing at a potentially faster rate than liabilities.

There could be some negatives in the form of Nevada/Las Vegas no longer having a centralized market or the benefits of a quasi, psuedo, monopoly. However, I think many might contend positives will outweigh negatives. At least I hope that's how things will turn out.

It probably won't make a difference for me. My state has already illegalized fantasy sports sites like fanduel or draftkings. I doubt they will legalize sports gambling whatever the supreme court says, there is too much underground gambling and organized crime syndicates which run them have too loud a voice for things to change.
3169  Economy / Economics / Re: What's Your Favourite Economic Book? on: May 14, 2018, 11:17:34 PM
BTW if anyone is interested in futuristic economic theories or what future progress of economics research and development could represent. A good topic to lookup is thermoeconomics. It models economic principles and theory after the behavior of energy or heat under the laws of thermodynamics. I think that represents the best path for the future if we're discussing what potential best methods for comprehending and stress testing economics theories is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoeconomics

Some current economics and financial frameworks are old and obsolete imo. It might be better to look towards the future and what can be achieved trying something different. The potential for innovation and progress in terms of economic theory could be vast. There could be tangible and positive benefits for literally everyone alive which could come from future progress in that area.
3170  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook CoFounder Wants $3 Trillion Tax On Rich To Fund Universal Basic Income on: May 14, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
The rich have a disproportionate say in formulating economic policies. I doubt if anything like this will ever see the light of the day. Plus, the risk have become very efficient at tax planning. you just have to find the right offshore trust to keep your money safe

Well, here's an interesting point.   Smiley

When the US income tax was originally passed in 1913 (if I remember right) I think it was marketed and sold to the public as a way of punishing the rich. The proposal was the rich would pay 6% income taxes. Everyone else would pay 1% income taxes. Today it has completely reversed. Some rich americans pay around 1% to 2% income taxes (without factoring in AMT - alternative minimum tax). Everyone else pays around 40% to 50% or higher income taxes. Some american politicians believe those in the poor to middle class tax bracket should pay as high as 80% taxes.

It might be said that universal basic income (ubi) is being marketed to the public as a way of "punishing the rich" is virtually identical to how the US income tax was passed in the first place. The rich have many more loopholes and methods of avoiding taxation than the average person. Sometimes tax hikes encourage them to make a stronger effort at tax evasion. There could be evidence for this with Donald Trump's recent tax cuts where we saw record tax revenues collected in the month of april 2018.

Good point with offshore trusts although if its denominated in dollars or euros, that money may not be worth much if either the USA or european union defaults on debt. That could be part of the reason why we're beginning to see negative media coverage of some things where in the past elites presented a more united front and did far less to educate the average person on potential negative circumstances associated with deficit/debt/economic imbalance.
3171  Economy / Economics / Americans Taxed $400 Billion For Fiber Optic Internet That Doesn’t Exist on: May 14, 2018, 10:37:20 PM
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Americans Paid $400 Billion in Taxes & Internet Surcharges for Fiber Optic Upgrades that Never Came

South Korea is the poster child for high-speed internet: its fixed-connection and mobile download speeds are consistently among the fastest in the world, and its capital city, Seoul, is completely saturated with Wi-Fi.  How did they do it?

Being densely populated helped: it’s easier and cheaper to wire-up crowded cities than empty countrysides.  But the key element was the government’s pro-broadband policies.  Not only did they open up the market for competition among internet service providers, but they also invested in hard infrastructure.

Back in 2011 the New York Times reported that the South Korean planned investments of $24.6 billion in digital infrastructure.  It paid off: South Korea’s internet remains among the world’s fastest, according to testing done by Speedtest—and this is in spite of massive recent gains and investments made by other countries.

Meanwhile, America’s internet connections are slow.  This summer Forbes Magazine reported:

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The US ranks 9th in the world in fixed broadband speed at 70.75 Mbps average download and 27.64 Mbps average upload. Ranking in the top ten is good but the US’s average download speed is less than half top-ranked Singapore’s 154.38 Mbps. Both upload and download speeds increased steadily from July 2016 to July 2017 and the US’s rank increased from 11 to 9.

The picture for the US is not nearly as good when you look at mobile internet speed where the US ranks 46th, just ahead of Albania and behind Oman. Average download speed in the US is 23.05 Mbps which is less than half the average download speeds in Norway, the Netherlands and Hungary. Average upload speed in the US is 8.26 Mbps. While mobile download speed increased by almost 20% from July 2016 to July 2017, the US’s world ranking fell from 44th to 46th. Not good.

Since then America’s fallen down to 11th place in terms of fixed connection download speed, and 47th in terms of mobile download speed.  Basically, America’s internet is slow, and it’s getting relatively slower.  This will have big economic consequences down the road as the world grows increasingly digital.

But that’s not the real story here.  More important is America’s failure to keep pace with countries like South Korea despite absolutely astronomical investments in broadband technology.

According to a fairly recent book (2015) called The Book of Broken Promises, the American people have been charged some $400 billion by telecom companies (at the insistence of government) for fiber optic upgrades that have not materialized.  The author writes:

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By the end of 2014, America will have been charged about $400 billion by the local phone incumbents, Verizon, AT&T and CenturyLink, for a fiber optic future that never showed up. And though it varies by state, counting the taxes, fees and surcharges that you have paid every month (many of these fees are actually revenues to the company or taxes on the company that you paid), it comes to about $4000-$5000.00 per household from 1992-2014, and that’s the low number.

You were also charged about nine times to wire the schools and libraries via state and federal plans designed to help the phone and cable companies.

And if that doesn’t bother you, by year-end of 2010, and based on the commitments made by the phone companies in their press statements, filings on the state and federal level, and the state-based ‘alternative regulation’ plans that were put in place to charge you for broadband upgrades of the telephone company wire in your home, business, as well as the schools and libraries — America, should have been the world’s first fully fibered, leading edge broadband nation.

In fact, in 1992, the speed of broadband, as detailed in state laws, was 45 Mbps in both directions — by 2014, all of us should have been enjoying gigabit speeds (1000 Mbps).

Of course, this didn’t happen.  America has relatively slow internet, and just a 9.4 percent penetration rate for fiber optic cables, according to Business Insider—this is less than half the OECD average.

The Trump administration would be wise to make improving America’s digital infrastructure a priority.  The South Korean model, market liberalizations combined with hard investments, could be a viable model.

https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/11/27/americans-fiber-optic-internet/

Perhaps one key area where the united states is in dire need of tax reform.   Smiley

Unfortunately telecom taxes (and many other forms of taxation) are redistributed towards war in the middle east or other dubious programs. Taxes often do not fund the things for which they are collected. As a result infrastructure and maintenance of many key essentials people rely on may be significantly underfunded. An example of this may be the levees which broke during hurricane katrina causing a flooded new orleans. Funding being cut to levee upkeep and maintenance is one aspect of that story.

Anyways, hopefully this raises awareness, lends people a different perspective on raising taxes and tax reform in general. I think we can all agree spending needs to be brought under control. More of an effort needs to be made to cut down on enterprises like the iran deal which seemingly was given billions of dollars to help it develop nuclear weapons at a faster rate, in order to destabilize the middle east further, in order to suit a political agenda. A similar deal was worked out between Bill Clinton's administration and north korea decades ago where NK was given billions of dollars and two reactors, which helped it to develop nukes faster than they otherwise would have.
3172  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cryptocurrency is unsupported: is it true or is it a myth? on: May 13, 2018, 11:50:37 PM
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Cryptocurrency is unsupported: is it true or is it a myth?

I'll contend: it is both true and false.   Smiley

It is true in the sense that bitcoin is not backed by gold, resources or commodities.

It is false in the sense that there are no economies in the world today who are truly backed by gold or anything with intrinsic value.

The quantity of gold contained in fort knox or any gold repository in the world, is not sufficient to serve as legitimate insurance in case of economic catastrophe. Thus we cannot say that fiat currencies being "gold backed" functions in the way it was designed to when people think of a currency being gold backed serving as a form of reliable insurance.

The value of gold is at a low at the moment. A big part of its low value involves its lack of utility. There is no support or infrastructure for precious metals to carry utility as being a legitimate commodity of exchange in regard to buying or selling goods / services. I believe governments do not want fiat currencies to have competition in the form of gold and other commodities, states prefer centralized markets. And so gold's value will not be great enough for the term "gold backed" to serve as a reliable form of insurance anytime soon.
3173  Economy / Economics / Re: Buffet, Munger and Gates Denounce Bitcoin on: May 13, 2018, 11:45:02 PM
I suspect on some level, the message of Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and other bitcoin haters is coordinated. Their stance resembles a unified front. People typically do not have opinions or views which are as identical as what Gates, Warren B and others are saying, unless political agendas are present. I would guess the last thing btc haters want is for the public to become educated or informed on crypto currencies and so on some level they agreed to divulge zero information on crypto, including whether coins have limited or infinite supply.

If people want bitcoin to succeed. The best method may be for each active person on this forum to give away a small amount of bitcoin to someone they know who has never owned or used crypto currencies before. The more knowledgeable the public is about crypto currencies the more difficult it will be for the media and moguls like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to mislead or misinform them.

I'm trying to do this right now. But I think I look too much like a "nigerian prince" for anyone to take me up on it. People always seem to think its a scam or something if I tell them I want to give them some bitcoin for free.
3174  Economy / Economics / Re: No Time Left, Time To Move Away From The Dollar on: May 13, 2018, 11:37:03 PM
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Putin pushes the agenda to move away from the dollar, time is closing in on the economy completely breaking down and it seems Russia and China are ready to breakaway and be independent.

Bolded: If I remember right, the united states and european union imposed sanctions against russia and banned them from the SWIFT financial network. The only option available to russia (and nations under sanctions) was to find ways to become more independent and operate outside SWIFT utilizing financial networks which are denominated in something other than the US dollar. In a way, one might say that russia was banned from using the dollar under sanctions, and so they sought alternatives which is a bit different from blaming Putin for everything.

The major push for abandoning the us dollar comes from china btw. Over the last year china has moved to denominate its oil transactions in the yuan (china's native currency). China has leveraged its political and economic influence towards forcing saudi arabia and russia to likewise sell china oil in their native yuan currency. I don't know how Vladimir Putin deserves the blame for any of this but alas he looks innocent here.

I think may's US economic metrics will be critical in determining whether we'll soon see a recession as well as how severe it may be. Its nice to think that "only corporations will go down with the ship" if another crisis happens. The sad truth is it would have a negative effect on everyone.
3175  Economy / Economics / Re: UK Bank HSBC Might Soon Pilot Live Blockchain Payments on: May 13, 2018, 11:29:05 PM
And you two guys are hilarious. A major bank decides to deal in cryptocurrency and you're against it?!?! hahah. Totally agree with you that HSBC is a shit bank that's financed a lot of evil things in the world, but Chase bank is banning their customers from making transactions to Coinbase...which of these two stories do you prefer?

I would prefer a small independent bank or startup financial institution to support crypto and benefit from it to create more competition in the banking industry. Big banks adopting crypto will likely only help them to maintain a status quo of industry wide stagnation, where little innovation or advancement occurs. There is too much centralization and monopolization of finance, in my humble opinion. Banks being penalized more severely or broken up to encourage free markets and an even playing field could benefit everyone, including bankers.

Good point on chase bank and their questionable practices. I remember awhile ago chase bank closed the accounts of many pornstars, strippers and adult entertainers for no reason. It could be due to chase not approving of small businesses or entrepreneurs in the adult entertainment industry being a big source of recent job creation. I'm not certain what the motive is, but I think many banks definitely have their own political agendas which they indirectly attempt to achieve whilst lurking in the shadows.
3176  Economy / Economics / Re: A coin issued by some country government - would you go for it? on: May 12, 2018, 10:08:45 PM
Imagine that some respectable country would go far beyond legalizing cryptocurrency and start one of its own. It would surely be no scam and it would probably have a strong support, but would there be any drawbacks to the currency and the state itself? Would it get more attention than some of the biggest coins now?

Imagine if a state announced it would enter the search engine business to compete with google. Or if the united states federal government proposed plans to enter the electric car market to compete with Tesla and Elon Musk. I think the response to those plans are what most would expect from a government entering the crypto currency world.

The main issue with many state run programs is they lack incentives to be efficient or cost effective in a way which would make them competitive against private sector entities. The state has a lot of clout but there are no metrics in place which would allow a person to determine how effective or ineffective tax revenues are being spent. Politicians tend to be entirely computer illiterate, economics illiterate, war and defense illiterate. They're often entirely at the mercy of analysts, campaign contributors, special interests or advisors as they themselves do not comprehend issues like net neutrality.

Part of the reason for bitcoin's success could involve people losing faith and confidence in governments to solve problems. In the USA the government has spent trilions attempting to fix issues like healthcare with little or no success. If the government released a crypto currency, there wouldn't necessarily be any real support for it. Not when the USA and european union are trillions in debt and not giving much indication that they are capable of successfully running things without destroying economies of their own country(if that makes sense).
3177  Economy / Economics / Re: What's Your Favourite Economic Book? on: May 11, 2018, 11:52:27 PM
Right now I'm very slowly reading The Pentagon of Power by Lewis Mumford.

Its difficult to read book due to the numerous factoids and abstracts but well worth it. Mumford is very underrated imo. Lewis Mumford should have the fame, hype and accolades which Karl Marx and Keynes have for entirely different reasons.

I'll try to quote a few excerpts from Lewis Mumford to show how his rhetoric differs from other economists.

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The dogma of ‘increasing wants’ as an indispensible basis for further industrial progress. Instead of the duty to work, we now have the duty to consume. To ensure rapid absorbtion of its immense productivity, megatechnics resorts to a score of different devices: consumer credit, installment buying, multiple packaging, non-functional designs, meretricious novelties, shoddy materials, defective workmanship, built-in fragility.

The aim of industry is not primarily to satisfy essential human needs with a minimal productive effort, but to multiply the number of needs, factitious and fictitious, and accommodate them to the maximum mechanical capacity to produce profits. These are the sacred principle of the power complex. Not the least effort of this system is that of replacing selectivity and quantitative restriction by indiscriminate and incontinent consumption.

Thus the shorter working day promised by this system is already turning into a cheat. In order to achieve the higher level of consumption required, the members of the family must take on extra jobs. […] The effect, ironically, is to turn the newly won six- or seven-hour day to twelve or fourteen hours; so in effect, the worker is back where he started, with more material goods than ever before, but with less time to enjoy them or the promised leisure.

If all these goods are in themselves sound and individually desirable, on what grounds can we condemn the system that totalizes them? So say the official spokesmen. All these goods remain valuable if more important human concerns are not overlooked or eradicated. Unqualified successes in over-quantification.

When a scientist in good repute, like Dr. Lee du Bridge, can defend the wholesale immediate use of pesticides, bactericides, and possibly equally dangerous pharmaceuticals, by saying that it would take ten years to test them sufficiently to certify their value and innocuousness and that ‘industry cannot wait’ – it is obvious that his rational commitments to science are secondary to financial pressures, and that the safeguarding of human life is for industry not a matter of major concern.

The ironic effect of quantification is that many of the most desirable gifts of modern technics disappear when distributed en masse, or when – as with the television – they are used too constantly and too automatically. No umbilical cord attached man to nature: neiter ‘security’ nor ‘adjustment’ were the guidelines to human development.

Patrick Geddes: Conditions of degeneration in the organic world are approximately known. These conditions are often of two distinct kinds, deprivation of food, light, etc. so leading to imperfect nutrition and enervation; the other, a life of repose, with abundant supply of food and decreased exposure to the dangers of the environment. It is noteworthy that while the former only depresses, or at most distinguishes the specific type, the latter, through the disuse of the nervous and other structures etc. which such a simplification of life involves, brings about that far more insidious and through degeneration seen in the life history of myriads of parasites.


THE PENTAGON OF POWER, Lewis Mumford, 1970

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As early as 1066, when William the Conqueror seized England, there were 8,000 watermills, serving less than one million people. At the very modest estimate of 2.5 horsepower per mill, this was twice the energy that was available through the assemblage of the 100,000 men who built the Great Pyramid, and probably more than twenty times in relation to the population of their respective countries.

Even in backward mining communities, as late as the sixteenth century more than half the recorded days were holidays; while for Europe as a whole, the total number of holidays, including Sunday, came to 189, a number even greater than those enjoyed by Imperial Rome. The idea that there should be no limits upon any human function is absurd: all life exists within very narrow limits of temperature, air, water or food; and the notion that money alone, or power to command the services of other men, should be free of such definite limits is an aberration of mind.

Where capitalism prospered, it established three main canons for successful economic enterprise: the calculation of quantity, the observation and the regimentation of time (‘Time is Money’), and the concentration on abstract pecuniary awards. Its ultimate values – Power, Profit, Prestige – derive from these sources and all of them can be traced back, under the flimsiest of disguises, to the Pyramid Age.

Leonardo: “men shall walk without moving [motorcar], they shall speak with those absent [telephone], they shall hear those who do not speak [phonograph]”. Is the intelligence alone, however purified and decontaminated, an adequate agent for doing justice to the needs and purposes of life?

Leonardo, for example, invented the submarine [but] he deliberately suppressed the invention “on the account of the evil nature in men, who would practice assassination at the bottom of the sea”. Inventions in Medieval Age: velocipede and military tank (Fontana), diving suit and infernal machine (Konrad Keyeser von Eichstadt), toxic gas

John Stuart Mill – ‘Principles of Economies’: it is doubtful if all the machinery then available had yet lightened the day’s labor of a single being. Within a century or two, the ideological fabric that supported the ancient megamachine had been reconstructed on a new and improved model. Power, speed, motion, standardization, mass production, quantification, regimentation, precision, uniformity, astronomical regularity, control, above all control – these became the passwords of modern society in the new Western style


TECHNICS AND HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, Lewis Mumford, 1967
3178  Economy / Economics / Re: UK Bank HSBC Might Soon Pilot Live Blockchain Payments on: May 11, 2018, 11:44:09 PM
I'm not in favor of HSBC bank involving itself in blockchain or crypto.

HSBC is notorious for laundering money for drug cartels, terrorists and shady russians. They've laundered money for illicit groups over the past 15 years and they're still doing it as far as anyone knows as they've never been truly punished or regulated in an appropriate manner for their illegal activities.

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HSBC Helped Terrorists, Iran, Mexican Drug Cartels Launder Money, Senate Report Says

A Senate report released ahead of the embargo time revealed that HSBC’s lax anti-money laundering policies allowed Mexican drug money, Iranian terrorist money, and even suspicious Russian money to enter the U.S. and gain access to U.S. dollar liquidity over the last couple of years.

The report, released late on Monday despite a 10 PM embargo time, was prepared by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, and counted with the support of Senators Carl Levin and Tom Coburn.

In a year-long investigation, the Subcommittee found that HSBC violated several rules, exposing the U.S. financial system to “a wide array of money laundering, drug trafficking, and terrorist financing.”  According to the report, HSBC’s Mexican affiliate channeled $7 billion into the U.S. between 2007 and 2008 which possibly included “proceeds from illegal drug sales in the United States.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/07/16/hsbc-helped-terrorists-iran-mexican-drug-cartels-launder-money-senate-report-says/

If we see newscasts claiming terrorists laundered money through HSBC bank, I hope people will realize and remember that HSBC has done this for at least a decade without receiving more than a slap on the wrist for it.
3179  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think the whales are manipulating the markets on: May 11, 2018, 11:12:12 PM
This is the best explanation I've seen for our recent decline in btc price.

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Cryptos Crash After Nvidia Forecasts Big Drop In Mining Demand

Around 1pmET, the entire space tumbled almost instantly as large blocks went through in Bitcoin, with chatter suggesting the MtGox custodian was unloading once again. Prices quickly stabilized once that selling pressure abated.

However, shortly after the US market closed at 4pmET, Nvidia announced its results, posting quarterly sales that topped expectations.

However, NVDA shares fell as the company revealed for the first time that a bigger-than-anticipated portion of the demand for its powerful graphics processors came from the volatile cryptocurrency market.



And then the company said that while it generated $289 million in sales to cryptocurrency miners in the first quarter, Chief Financial Officer Colette Kress said that the company expects cryptocurrency-related revenue to fall 65% to about $100 million in the next quarter.

And that sparked a second leg of selling pressure across the crypto-space...



Sending Bitcoin back below $9000...



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-10/cryptos-crash-after-nvidia-forecasts-big-drop-mining-demand

Nvidia's forecast of a massive reduction in mining demand could be misinterpreted here. We know samsumg, nvidia and others announced plans to enter the dedicated ASIC markets via building their own dedicated chips. It is possible that increased production of ASICs and the increased market competition that comes with it is partly responsible. Rather than a straight reduction in demand, it could be a ramp up in competition and production which forecasts a more widely split market for mining hardware.

Uncertain on whether MtGox's custodian is dumping btc. That could be yet another explanation.
3180  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the true potential of Blockchain and decentralisation? on: May 11, 2018, 10:58:34 PM
What do you think could be achieved by Blockchain and decentralisation in the future? For me the question is very much linked with decentralisatio of resources.

Some futurists believe we'll live in a post capitalist society; at present we have in many ways the worst aspects of capitalism- and the central banks, governments are dinosaurs who are failing to adapt, partly because of vested interests, partly because the systems in place are from the analogue era and so cumbersome they have no dynamism, or ability to change at all, and when something new happens they feel threatened.

I believe because of the rate of exchange of information in the digital age, the rate of change is exponential and at some point a lot of the old order will be rebuilt, to be more open to change but also a lot of decentralised communities may be able to in part break away from the remnant shackles of empire, banksters etc.

The issue of peer review and transparancy- unaccountable centralised apps, social media, platforms, exchanges etc may start seeing a user base drop once a competent decentralised competitor emerges, but of course we are some way away from seeing twitter, Google, youtube etc being challenged realistically.

I think futurists and historians lack capital incentives and job opportunities. There isn't much money being thrown at them by anyone. In many cases they're reduced to utilizing their academic degrees towards pushing anti-capitalist agendas as paid advertisement spokes persons. The movement against capitalism could be motivated by a desire to rid people of the rights to own property, patent ideas, start businesses. A movement aimed at depriving people of many of the freedoms they enjoy under capitalism which those in socialist nations do not enjoy. History shows capitalism is the best framework for harnessing the ingenuity and innovative spirit of a nation. America used to be one of the most innovative and inventive nations in the world due to capitalism giving americans the freedom to start businesses like google and apple in their garage.

Decentralized community movements are already occurring all over the world. We have brexit with the UK breaking away from the EU. There's are major independence movements in catalan and elsewhere. In mexico we have entire cities seceding. They need protection from drug cartels and the government is too corrupt to provide them with it. Mexicans are seceding from the state and focusing on protecting themselves in cases where the government is unable to.

If I remember right, youtube isn't very profitable, if it is profitable at all. Youtube could operate at a loss with video bandwidth being expensive proportional to the amount of revenue which can be generated via advertisements. Google has shown itself to be extremely good at innovating up to the present. Eventually someone younger, smarter and hungrier could come along out outdo them both. That's one area of capitalism fat cats do not enjoy. A transition to socialism would have potential to eliminate competition and maintain the status quo which may be one reason why there is such a powerful agenda behind the pro socialist movement by current elites.
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