well..you may be late to the party....I think 1 titan for me has made me ....well..I'm too embarrassed to say....but I'd guess in 2 years....about 1,000 LTC ...now like us you probably

would not have held any..but even if you did like us and swap'd it for equipment (bitmain) you'd be well in the game by now or converted it to BTC

sorry about informing you on this..but the shock of you pulling out a titan unused after 2 years is well ..shocking and you will get replies on this

mostly of the 'cough bullsh*t" variety

wait, I have a miner almost exactly 3 years old as of Feb 1st...it made me almost exactly as of today almost 2,000 LTC (about 1,983)

now mine is 1 year older but looks like you'd be well over 1,200 or so LTC by my reckoning...

from now on any suspect equipment get on here and poll us crypto nerds

My problem with the bitcoin core folks are they ever gonna release ANYTHING ...lightning or whatever to offer a way forward on their scaling solutions....or are they going to continue to sit their hands

and fiddle while rome burns and the forks continue to dominate the news and conversations.....

The most UNLIKELY of stories that I scare myself at night with is CW may NOT be Satoshi, but he may have been in the 3 guy group , hal finney was one and the other guy most likely the power

behind the code (I forget his name) and say Craig Wright

NOW IF what he says is true and this crypto of Satoshi's is locked up in a trust till Jan 1st 2020..well BTC and crypto is gonna be in a world of hurt if that is the case..because IF he is the

last man standing and gets those funds...CW imho will burn it to the ground and cash out and play power games...he is made at the crypto folk who don't believe him..he is mad at the press

it would be a sh*t storm of epic tulip proportions....

now again, I see only a 1 in 20 chance of what he is saying is true..but even if he was the weak link in the chain...he is MAY be the only one left of the original group...thus if a trust

exists my hoard is beyond scewed.....he is a real sh*t imho, it would be ugly

again, fairytale but the scary kind!

Man...I can't believe how full of sh*t you are......after the cluster of this thread....there is no way I'd buy a DragonMint anyway,

with the way you are approaching launch...if I want to deal with CRAZY asic miners that promise much and overprice and deliver little

I will simply stick with watching the pandaminer and baikal threads...they are crazy as hell as well, but at least POSSIBLE to OCCASIONALLY bag them Unicorns (even thou overpriced)

a lot of posting on here and running around w/o any proof....

I call this bullsh*t and if it is NOT bullsh*t because the product exists, then it is bullsh*t with how you are trolling the product,


so essentially, its all bullsh*t indeed and a lame ass attempt on attention in the thread at best

I just put your ass on ignore..I will follow on the thread but don't need to see anymore of your Unicorn fantasy posts of invisible miners with visible power meters

I used a hot wallet on blockchain.info I had moved 3k thru on the day before BCH hit the world

swept it again on some small btc into blockchain.info and viola 300 bucks or some such of BCH showed up

IF that is not how it is supposed to work..then someone sent me 300 bucks of BCH because I have moved none of mine

so anyway, did not realize this till after the fact so check your old wallets (paper wallet mine was)

just an FYI

brad

That is not gonna happen..in that Unicorn Hunters suffer the same delusions as Bigfoot hunters....everyone is sure they exist...but NO actual proof....thus you are stuck with your

20k wilderness Jeep rig and Bigfoot hunting gear....so what ya gonna do ...let it sit or pump your Bigfoot hunting cred?

same here...it has to work ...as a unicorn hunter it just has to work...or you can't call yourself a unicorn hunter

so miner has to exist for me to be a miner for ROI thus it exists!

simple...delusion ..the only way to happily unicorn hunt!

as to the bigfoot rig above..I know who you are.....you can't deny it in your driveway!

catch is the coupon is locked to my account from what I can tell ..so you'd have to trust me to order you one..not sure that makes a person comfortable

not sure what I'm gonna do yet

according to obelisk reply via email

I have 5 obelisks

I get 5 800 buck coupons first

IF I got 5 more units

I'd get 400 bucks  for my 1st week ordered unit

and 250 bucks for a remaining 4 units

IF I got as many as 10 to use all the coupons

they were more unclear on IF you have 2 units or more per order number

either it would work as above

or go

800 on 1st unit and 400 on the second unit

that would suck...but ..again why be unclear unless that may be the case

catch is to find out you have to FLAG the coupon and once you do that it is locked in

may not matter I have only 1 2 order like this and I find it unlikely I would get the other 3 units anyway

anyway we have till the 31st of Jan to decide on this stuff

when I asked about order of shipping on the orig batches ..they said don't worry all units will ship out at the same time

thus if like me you got over 5 over 2 months they all will dump at once not trickle out

anyway, not sure about getting 2nd order even at 1/2 off of 2nd batch of miners with the 1st batch still vaporware...seems silly

but DAMN, I badly need the equip deduction at a 50% income tax rate (with 10% state tax added that makes it so)

but between these units and DUBIOUS bitmain units in march/april (as they drive up difficulty and mine till then)

looking IFFY

I'm seriously looking at a kick ass big ass do all printer and a decent Xerox machine just for the equip write offs

I already last year got a 5K alienware laptop for the biz (cough!) w/the expansion box for a graphics card (hey, its a gpu miner) (cough!)

just because if I did not 50% would go to IRS and the 25% (1st year all) equip deduction I can get off taxes owed last year 2017 in REAL $$ towards 2017 taxes anyway I'd owe

thus in my feeble mind, the above toy (er I mean legit equip for mining) cost me 25% of retail (cough!) delusion I'm sure but sure makes me happy

but damn, do I really have to buy a Xerox machine....

I wonder if the 2018 tax bill for the rich loosened up some more equip I can buy for the biz besides computer equip/software and miners?

unlikely....

later

brad

They are holding and mining....I have a buddy ...he is getting a mess of (or did) dirty L3+'s with replacement fans..(ya think maybe they might be mining these puppies?)

thus the wait til March....rinse/wash/repeat the ways of Bitmain are the usual 'yawn' evil.....its a grind ...but Bitmain feels someone has to take advantage of all you

prosperous miners of any asic flavor

(Bitmain:Day to Day Evil: is a grind, but someone has to do it!) (tm bitmain)

IF the bet is Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies are the "new store of value" to be an electronic gold...we are golden

IF the bet is bitcoin is just Speculation and bubble hype...it will pop and we are doomed....

pick your poison..it will be 1 camp or the other, no middle ground imho

(exciting.....like being shot at..but exciting!)

brad

So the usual clusterF*ck with them.....even if you get an order thru...the last 2 big orders I tried last summer they sold out from under me

I wonder if those guys ever got their $$ back on wire xfers....i think they just got 'credit' fat lot of good it does to order from these guys if they over sell

not sure, I'd trust them with a wire xfer....they can't ship sh*t

Just an aside.....www.litecoinpool.org...is run out of the United Kingdom correct? I mean the owner pooler

and if there is a 'source of operations' outside of various server locations, that would be it?

Curious. (Likely, I'm completely off on this)

Brad

I did NOT sell at the bottom....more or less middling middle at the time...

(Its a trap...to set me up with false confidence so the next time, my sells, call go pear-shaped)

the video only shows the ass end of the unit (fan) probably and bitmain unit ...put that way so we can't see the front end bitmain nameplate.......it is
quite the....lame ass video

yep one of those people...but my whole year was paying off mining equip with btc before it went compeltly nuts...then again...now that it is the end of the year...I needed every damn equip write off I could get...and STILL gonna owe IRS (maybe....if self-employed miner you can do solo 401k for yourself off miner income look into it) acts like equip 100% in solo 401k comes off
of gross income ..just like miner equipment

so in 20/20 hindsight...every dubious damn btc I spent last year with the price pump from 4.15 ltc to 250 buck LTC WAS BADLY NEEDED

thus.....obelisk being a mistake or not....I JUST am gonna squeak by and maybe pay 1 months mining to the IRS and state taxes ..rather then 6 months w/o the equip

and to tell the truth...the hoard would have been pretty much the same either way equip gotten or just mining previous

but yeah, the days of 12-14 semi-legit you get the equip asic flavor of your choice in 2 months and legit are gone....either crypto is gonna shoot up soooooo fast
that 2-3 month delays getting equip (remember bitmain on the 4.15 to 50 buck ltc pump took all the equip back ...i did a 6 week loan to them for a july firmware fix
and the machines showed up with jan 2017 firmware)

alas, crypto for equip used to work up till about maybe July of 2017....but again if crypto shoots up so fast it makes no sense...on the other hand ..if crypto dumps
sooooo fast it dont' make sense either and with bitmain at 90% of the equip of all flavors x11/scrypt-pow/sha-256...well I'm tossing in the towel

we will see around june of 2018

but may get another obelisk or two anyway with fiat/cash (no crypto) i have 50% off coupons so may get some for basement toys

other then toys thou....be careful is my advice ...I'm gonna cool my jets till again perhaps July 2018 or so for any serious data hall moves again (if ever)

Thanks you will be tipped for your math...will send you a pm so I don't lose your avatar/handle now as a test...will shoot off tip as soon as I see if my frigging wallet works

on these purchases

brad

Unicorn Hunt Thread here..now at 1 month and 9 days old.....

(the natives are discouraged......drinking much eggnog.......)

and....lets see how long this string of NADA lasts into 2018

yep....I got an alienware laptop full boat....4,025 (biz related don't ya know) case/the side expansion chassis for running an Rx1080 card
for better graphics (gpu mining dust coin..don't ya know..lol or so I will say) also biz related...a 3 TB 3.5" hd another case for the gamer
expansion module above

and I'm looking at obelisk-tech (my summer dubious purchase) of 4 more obelisk units (unknown that this is wise) at around 4k because
I have 5 1/2 off coupons....from previous dubious purchases

will still owe IRS and State taxes of about 12k....running out of crap to buy

(xerox machine...I guess I always wanted one)

yep you nailed it

dubious gamer latops I will 'supposedly' use for crypto (i guess) and dubious asic miners.....the stuff I will do on the off chance NOT to pay the tax man

on the other hand on the above my REAL risk is actualy 25% over what I would actually pay the tax man for this gamble..in that I get 25% back in real

$$$ for 5 years depreciation in one year (this year) towards taxes..so wtf.....I'll take that risk

the stuff you do in the usa to avoid taxes (oh well the gamer laptop will be a hoot and I can gpu mine again sh*t coin for giggles!)

kinda off topic

but anyone have an idea on what kind of transaction fee I'd get hit on for a $1,634.00 BTC transaction?

thanks....trying to guess

Not with Mark Karpeles, getting out of Japanese Bankruptcy MAYBE likely, with multi-millions intact! The return of Mt.Gox!

(more likely, the return of Mark Kapeles, lounging on a beach someplace)

willy bot! maybe it shall return!

http://fortune.com/2017/11/11/karpeles-mt-gox-profitable-bankruptcy/

( I am sorry for making everyone's day worse, reading the above, such is life)