DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com

[offordscott]

When I am allowed to, I will post more.

[Searing]

When I am allowed to, I will post more.

Man...I can't believe how full of sh*t you are......after the cluster of this thread....there is no way I'd buy a DragonMint anyway,

with the way you are approaching launch...if I want to deal with CRAZY asic miners that promise much and overprice and deliver little

I will simply stick with watching the pandaminer and baikal threads...they are crazy as hell as well, but at least POSSIBLE to OCCASIONALLY bag them Unicorns (even thou overpriced)

a lot of posting on here and running around w/o any proof....

I call this bullsh*t and if it is NOT bullsh*t because the product exists, then it is bullsh*t with how you are trolling the product,


so essentially, its all bullsh*t indeed and a lame ass attempt on attention in the thread at best

I just put your ass on ignore..I will follow on the thread but don't need to see anymore of your Unicorn fantasy posts of invisible miners with visible power meters

[HoleShot]

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.

[silverleew1]

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.

When he gave you the address then I suggest you go live streaming dude ~
Who knows what "happened" when you are on your way there.

An metaphor..
Some one trying to sell a fake diamond. Give a goddamn beautiful Photoshoped picture and edited with Adobe AE videos.
The price? HALF price! Nice right? But.. When the professional asked the buyer to prove the diamond using some method..
The buyer gonna say.. "F you! I don't need you to prove it! My item is original just like the prove I've given and already ordered by bunch of people!"

Basically.. If you had the item then it's really easy to proof the item by any method neccessery (even a diamond can be easily proofed by some method).

BUT! When you are trying to scam with some item saying it's another item then that is hard to do so right? XD~ just like a fake Diamond, and people telling you to test it with the right method yet you giving them a blur view only so it still a diamond in some idiots opinion (well, I'm sorry if you get offended by this.. but you are buying a fake diamond! wtf?). In professional view/opinion of course it will be a rejected proof and they will need the item to be examined by them self.

or.. Just like this.. Hey! I'm selling a heart shape red diamond! Only 10 bucks! Send it to these address and "wait" for the shipping..
If it doesn't arriving yet then it still in "wait" or the item is in the middle of nowhere just "wait" okay? "Wait" :3. (until i gone to nowhere)

[offordscott]

Stop being an ignorant ingrate, Searing.

It’s ok if you ignore my username. The only reason I joined this forum was to participate in this thread (which I did not create in the first place) and to try to bring a little clarity and perspective.

If you’d like me (one of the only ones in the entire world right now) to stop talking about a product in a subforum that was specifically created for this very purpose, then I can certainly go away.

I’m sure you’ve seen a lot of empty promises made and real scams played in your lifetime here on your way to a 4.5-star Legendary account. But your judgment is way off on this one, sir.

I call this bullsh*t and if it is NOT bullsh*t because the product exists, then it is bullsh*t with how you are trolling the product,

...

I just put your ass on ignore..I will follow on the thread but don't need to see anymore of your Unicorn fantasy posts of invisible miners with visible power meters

[offordscott]

I've PM'd you. But be warned... newbie accounts can only make 1 private message reply per 24 hour period.

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.

[offordscott]

philipma1957, thanks for doing that. I didn't know how to properly embed a photo.

I fixed your image below

[Steamtyme]

I've PM'd you. But be warned... newbie accounts can only make 1 private message reply per 24 hour period.

I'll fly to Brookfield, Wisconsin. Shoot me the address and we'll set a date.

That's better than Promojo, who was afraid to show me his data center, when the photos were of the miner in his home... He could have set it up in a library for all I cared it was just an option to lend validity to this product.

Which is the oddest product launch I've ever seen in any way shape or form.

It will be interesting to see if this meeting pans out. Like many others though this whole process doesn't make me want one in the slightest.

I've mostly just "grabbed Popcorn" and stuck around

[HagssFIN]

This is indeed the most odd product launch yet.

Either they are very paranoid with their product design or this does not exist at all.

@offordscott
Please let us know if Phil or/and I can buy a demo unit for a thorough review and that way stop all this madness.

[offordscott]

Odd indeed. Yes, we are paranoid.

Demo units are not for sale. If you’d like to come to my house and see the unit in person, you are more than welcome. You can see it side by side to a new end-of-January batch Antminer S9 13.7TH/s in the crawl space below my dining room.

[HagssFIN]

Demo units are not for sale.

Well, that's a bad choice IMO.

I'm gonna quote Virgilio on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdKOgNgyZM4&feature=youtu.be&t=3m51s

[offordscott]

“Second Biggest Asic Producer”? What does that even mean?

[castiel0504]

Sooo i don't understand this picture? We can just do raw guess those are S9's value,  You always know that there is 4chan, and someone can do anonymous leaks . I'm not implying anything, but again with this picture, there is nothing new here..

[Sandal_Hat]

Then why not just send Philip a copy. He writes good detailed reviews and have 200+ trust rating. I dont think he can be bought over.

Halong has a minimum of 5 miner for an order.
They have no stock now but will somehow have stock if u order 1000+ miners in one order?? They will not distribute this 1000+ miners into multiple orders?

I believe the above is because they want to limit the number of buyers. So, assuming this goes bad later, there wont be 5000+ complaints from the public. There will be more like 100 complains instead. This way, it will be abit low key and perhaps easier for them to get away and maybe not even investigated. They dont wanna be hauled to court like butterfly labs. All those who endorsed the company will either dissapear if they are anonymous or perhaps claim to be a victim as well, etc.


Thats just my gut feeling. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

Just my 2 cents.

[score1more]

Guys and gals.. seriously, buy yourself an airline ticket and come to my house in Brookfield, Wisconsin USA if you want to see this thing in person. Otherwise, this is all I'm authorized to display online at the moment:

Ya, ya... go ahead and laugh or scoff.

You gotta understand, the community here has seen it all and read the court transcripts of the depositions.  So, I'm sure you'll understand why people aren't jumping up and down at some pictures of a wall meter.

It seems like nearly all new entrants to the market need some funding, and the funding source is often the customer-base.  This puts a real strain on the community to say the least when delays occur, and in worst cases, the venture folds without shipping product.

What's the point of your picture and post?  To add credibility?

[offordscott]

Your guess is bad. That’s not how it works. If only large companies are making large orders for large dollar amounts, the reprocessing on the mining industry / market would be HUGE. It would be utterly disastrous to fail to deliver to people ordering 1000+ units. While one of the desired outcomes is to decentralize the mining manufacturing industry, selling one or two units at a time will NOT accomplish this. Selling thousands of units at a time is a more efficient use of the companies resources at this current moment in time.

[offordscott]

My purpose behind posting that pic was simply to buy some time and give a few of the naysayers a little hope. That's all. I promise, more will come from actual independent reviewers in due time. No one is asking you to pre-order. In fact, we've tried our best to discourage it. Halong does not need $ from customers in order to fund the venture. The funds were already there before the project began.

What's the point of your picture and post?  To add credibility?

[Sandal_Hat]

Your guess is bad. That’s not how it works. If only large companies are making large orders for large dollar amounts, the reprocessing on the mining industry / market would be HUGE. It would be utterly disastrous to fail to deliver to people ordering 1000+ units. While one of the desired outcomes is to decentralize the mining manufacturing industry, selling one or two units at a time will NOT accomplish this. Selling thousands of units at a time is a more efficient use of the companies resources at this current moment in time.

lol this is pure bullshit...your post has no sense. U make more when u have more sales. U are even asking for money first haha. It is easy to create more invoices and courier out more parcels via dhl/fedex/etc. This isnt alot of invoices/customers when it is 5 per order lol and it gives u around 8k USD that u wanna be paid for first. U have no possible cashflow issues either since u are paid first.


U are asking for 1000+ units per order because u want the voice of 1 person complaining later, and not hundreds complaining....when nothing is shipped.

[castiel0504]

So according to your reply, minimum order buy for miners will always be for 5 miners at once? Thre will be no selling miners 1 by 1, to little miners like me? I don't think that is good way to sell your units. Well its easier to sell in bulk, but again...i have mixed feelings about this

[offordscott]

I'm sorry Mr/Mrs Sandal_Hat, but I'm afraid you don't understand the complexities of wholesale versus retail, logistics and scaling. Do you run a manufacturing company of your own? Do you sell highly complex electronic equipment internationally? Who the hell are you dude/dudette?! How many mining rigs are you currently running yourself? Etc. Etc. You are only brave behind a digital username. Unless you can prove to me that you're more than just forum bunny, you'll be just a voice in the wilderness to me.

lol this is pure bullshit...your post has no sense.