It was less than two months ago when I did my research: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077613.0 There are 1,800 active listed, but if you check the dates of the last transaction, you can see many are from months ago--before there was a list of holdings (1000+ meant active, but most weren't --more than half if I remember correctly), but now that and the hosting company's name is cut off--I'd like to think it was a reaction to my research--you don't want the suckers knowing too much about the going-ons. I do like how you create a fake satoshi reply, dismiss the attack vector without any analysis, and misrepresent the real number of active nodes, but I don't expect research or formal arguments from dashers. If you don't think law enforcement would coerce or subpoena mn operators (you'd only need Evan or Otoh for million dash) or hosting companies to comply in orderto break up a pedophile-mining ring or a drug syndicate or human trafficking operation, then you haven't been paying attention with how well LEAs orchestrate international sting operations--though again, they would only need one or two whales and they'd have enough to undermine anonymity and it could be done by one domestic agency. It's an attack vector and it won't disappear until you get rid of masternodes or find a better way for them to create anonymity. 1. "misrepresent the real number of active nodes"? Distribution of 2866 (with 2616 unique IPs) Dash Masternodes (Summary by Country, unique IPs only) Last check: Mon Jul 20 23:30:31 CEST 2015 V2 Client version: 110223 2. Let me get this straight... Your interpretation of "snake oil" is an extremely far fetched attack vector? You want to DDOS 2,866 servers worldwide for an extended period of time without anybody noticing? You should be aware that there are no coins stored on these nodes. If a server goes down, it can be recreated on a different server (anywhere in the world) in a matter of minutes. 3. Faking Satoshi PMs. Guilty. Whatever.That's how I feel about your counter argument--if you are too lazy to even get Satoshi's details right, why should I expect you to take the time to research your counter-arguments. Here's the link to dashnodes: https://dashnodes.com/index/masternodes/page=34&offset=1650It lists 1,800 nodes, but many haven't had a transaction in weeks or months--so are these active? Or is the network just that slow? Or is the site broken? I'd love a site where I can research the hosting companies again  See above for the bolded part for the attack vector you keep conveniently missing.  I'm going to bed, but I hope you have fixed dash's anonymity with a fake letter from GMaxwell by the time I wake. Or maybe you can make a noob account for PaterTod and get a recantation. Good stuff. Can't script this. |
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Start by rereading it. You missed some things, but I expect selective reading/hearing from dashers. Also, 95% of the nodes are in 5 countries (all allies) and on hosting services and there aren't 2,800 active nodes--last time i checked it was around 1,200. given pedos are mining dash (allegedly) it wouldn't be hard to imagine those countries working together to stop and prosecute by using subpoenas or coercion to hosting companies or the mn operators themselves.
Last I checked there are 2,866 ACTIVE MasterNodes. 1,200 was roughly 1 year ago. You are obviously way behind. I suggest you start by reading the open source code or the PDFs or something. Your concerns are real. I'm sure that the US and it's allies are planning this takeover while we type. Jesus, this is the best you've got? Meanwhile, I'm sure you all have been waiting for the reply to my PM. Here it is:  lol wut this is satoshi's prof https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3Isn't it nice to know that you have a higher reputation than Satoshi? You'd think he'd would get a founder rep or something?  |
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Start by rereading it. You missed some things, but I expect selective reading/hearing from dashers. Also, 95% of the nodes are in 5 countries (all allies) and on hosting services and there aren't 2,800 active nodes--last time i checked it was around 1,200. given pedos are mining dash (allegedly) it wouldn't be hard to imagine those countries working together to stop and prosecute by using subpoenas or coercion to hosting companies or the mn operators themselves.
Last I checked there are 2,866 ACTIVE MasterNodes. 1,200 was roughly 1 year ago. You are obviously way behind. I suggest you start by reading the open source code or the PDFs or something. Your concerns are real. I'm sure that the US and it's allies are planning this takeover while we type. Jesus, this is the best you've got? Meanwhile, I'm sure you all have been waiting for the reply to my PM. Here it is: It was less than two months ago when I did my research: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077613.0 There are 1,800 active listed, but if you check the dates of the last transaction, you can see many are from months ago which means they aren't active unless masternodes don't pay for months which would suck for the operator--before when I researched, there was a list of the masternode's holdings (1000+ meant active, 0 meant inactive, most weren't --more than half if I remember correctly), but now that information and the hosting company's name is cut off--I'd like to think it was a reaction to my research--you don't want the suckers knowing too much about the going-ons. I do like how you create a fake satoshi reply, dismiss the attack vector without any analysis, and misrepresent the real number of active nodes, but I don't expect research or formal arguments from dashers. If you don't think law enforcement would coerce or subpoena mn operators (you'd only need Evan or Otoh for million dash) or hosting companies to comply in order to break up a pedophile-mining ring or a drug syndicate or human trafficking operation, then you haven't been paying attention with how well LEAs orchestrate international sting operations--though again, they would only need one or two whales and they'd have enough to undermine anonymity and it could be done by one domestic agency. It's an attack vector and it won't disappear until you get rid of masternodes or find a better way for them to create anonymity. Also, Peter Todd hasn't made a post since early June and he is currently offline, so maybe someone can make him aware of oaxaca's request. |
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I'm still waiting for you to refute this (I'm no Peter Todd, but it seems kind of a big security lapse and it can warm you up for when Todd shows up):
LOL. Here's the attack vector Evan created out of ignorance, stupidity or pure not giving a fuck.
The easiest attack is to buy masternodes and ddos attack competing nodes until you own the traffic. Evan claims it's financially implausible, but ignores that nodes are most profitable when there about a 1,000 masternodes (he has a ROI graphic on the dash BCT thread that underscores this). He also ignores that the attacker would be pulling incomes from these masternodes--given that most are held on corporate servers underlies that no one knows who owns them outside of the host and the owner. He also ignores how motivated an attacker may be, that he or another masternode operator might comply given the right circumstances (threat or lawful compliance) and how deep LE's pockets are--silly, dangerous, stupid.
If you trust that system knowing the flaws, you deserve whatever comes your way--except maybe being linked to pedophiles--can you show that link on your explorer?
DOS'ing masternodes doesn't reduce the anonymity set of the transactions or coins mixed before the DOS. If the masternode count drops 50% for example all of a sudden, mixing coins at that moment is not a good idea. It was already suggested a year ago or so that the wallet would take care of this and protect the user during the network downtime. It hasn't been implemented yet afaik, DASH must grow at least 100x at minimum before this (an appearance of such a motivated attacker) would become even a possibility. DDOS is to control the majority of nodes, not to directly reduce the anonymity set--though by doing so while monitoring the nodes you posses would break anonymity--which was my point. Nice suggestion, but wouldn't an attacker take control of the nodes before any measures were taken, while it was cheapest, and while they could gain the most info for the longest time without raising any red flags? Also, you still have no measure in reality or in the works to stop an organization from using coercion or compliance to motivate a node operator to turn over data--this is even better since the whatevermine granted the first users such a large stash of coins and the masternodes are most likely concentrated in a few hands. But here's the big problem: masternodes are human controlled intermediaries that perform important functions. Whatever breaks dash's anonymity will happen because you trust this moronic system that is begging to be broken. You are playing a game of whack-a-mole and apparently no one in dashland has the theoretical capability to see it or the moral compass to speak up. Snake oil. Your plan to break the anonymity of DASH is to: Buy 1,000,000 DASH, Set up 1,000 MasterNodes you control, DDOS all of the other MasterNodes (2,800 or so in 38 countries), and Profit! where to start? Start by rereading it. You missed some things, but I expect selective reading/hearing from dashers. Also, 95% of the nodes are in 5 countries (all allies) and on hosting services and there aren't 2,800 active nodes--last time i checked it was around 1,200. given pedos are mining dash (allegedly) it wouldn't be hard to imagine those countries working together to stop and prosecute by using subpoenas or coercion to hosting companies or the mn operators themselves. |
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So you don't have original thoughts? Just copy and paste others? And aren't you trying to scorn me with your copy and pasting? I wasn't even thinking about you until you kept repeating [generalizthis] within quotations. But I see someone who lacks the courage to put forth their own thoughts and is quick to ridicule others when it doesn't jive with what they were taught..
What I write is without the authority of Time, save that even he corroborates my tales. You should go back to quotations. Sorry, i get it now. |
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What do you think? Or are you an AI programmed to quote others?
A scorner seeketh wisdom, and there is none [for him]; but knowledge is easy unto the intelligent.
(I compose replies through the syntheses of quotes.) So you don't have original thoughts? Just copy and paste others? And aren't you trying to scorn me with your copy and pasting? I wasn't even thinking about you until you kept repeating [generalizthis] within quotations. But I see someone who lacks the courage to put forth their own thoughts and is quick to ridicule others when it doesn't jive with what they were taught. The coward laughs behind the mask of the righteous He seeks to destroy what he doesn't understand He is doomed to repeat what was lost And not see the age at hand |
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What do you think?  He that walketh with wise [men] becometh wise; but a companion of the foolish will be depraved.
What do you think? Or are you an AI programmed to quote others? And didn't Judas walk with the wise? |
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So you want Peter Todd tell you the formula of your own snake-oil? It's a snake-oil. I'm impressed by your thorough analysis. Your points are articulate and well laid out. I'm still waiting for you to refute this (I'm no Peter Todd, but it seems kind of a big security lapse and it can warm you up for when Todd shows up):
I don't trust this system. I can't see it and verify it. What good is it for everything to be hidden completely, to the point where you have to trust that it is working?
With a simple, understandable system that fully protects the privacy of the user, yet requires no trust - as was always the whole point of the decentralized crypto currency of Bitcoin - DASH is not more superior due to it's complexity, but due to it's simplicity. If you're such a technocrat that you don't understand this, I can only feel bad for you because the majority of the world will.
LOL. Here's the attack vector Evan created out of ignorance, stupidity or pure not giving a fuck. The easiest attack is to buy masternodes and ddos attack competing nodes until you own the traffic. Evan claims it's financially implausible, but ignores that nodes are most profitable when there about a 1,000 masternodes (he has a ROI graphic on the dash BCT thread that underscores this). He also ignores that the attacker would be pulling incomes from these masternodes--given that most are held on corporate servers underlies that no one knows who owns them outside of the host and the owner. He also ignores how motivated an attacker may be, that he or another masternode operator might comply given the right circumstances (threat or lawful compliance) and how deep LE's pockets are--silly, dangerous, stupid. If you trust that system knowing the flaws, you deserve whatever comes your way--except maybe being linked to pedophiles--can you show that link on your explorer? DOS'ing masternodes doesn't reduce the anonymity set of the transactions or coins mixed before the DOS. If the masternode count drops 50% for example all of a sudden, mixing coins at that moment is not a good idea. It was already suggested a year ago or so that the wallet would take care of this and protect the user during the network downtime. It hasn't been implemented yet afaik, DASH must grow at least 100x at minimum before this (an appearance of such a motivated attacker) would become even a possibility. DDOS is to control the majority of nodes, not to directly reduce the anonymity set--though by doing so while monitoring the nodes you posses would break anonymity--which was my point. Nice suggestion, but wouldn't an attacker take control of the nodes before any measures were taken, while it was cheapest, and while they could gain the most info for the longest time without raising any red flags? Also, you still have no measure in reality or in the works to stop an organization from using coercion or compliance to motivate a node operator to turn over data--this is even better since the whatevermine granted the first users such a large stash of coins and the masternodes are most likely concentrated in a few hands. But here's the big problem: masternodes are human controlled intermediaries that perform important functions. Whatever breaks dash's anonymity will happen because you trust this moronic system that is begging to be broken. You are playing a game of whack-a-mole and apparently no one in dashland has the theoretical capability to see it or the moral compass to speak up. Snake oil. |
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The universe is in a constant state of flux…
In which case, “[t]he universe” (generalizethis) would be; however, it might be. What do you think? |
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Reductionist live in a vacuum of their own creation every idea that enters is prodded and poked relentlessly--the squirming carcass thrown back to the living to revitalize itself and resume its infinite course.
Epicurus believed that, on the basis of a radical materialism which dispensed with transcendent entities such as the Platonic Ideas or Forms…
The universe is in a constant state of flux, to try to contain it (even the temporary yourself of this moment) is to deny yourself chaos. So when you try to pin down a word you miss the beauty of Shakespeare's "Brevity is the soul of wit" which simultaneously uses intelligence and humor as its base. I love using words that are adaptable to many meanings, that can't be pinned down and analyzed effectively. Every poet has had that moment when a word is used out of sheer bliss, and later when you go to do a more analytical edit, you read it and think, "That can't be the right word, it doesn't even make sense!" But nonetheless you go and look up the etymology and there it is: an old meaning that your daemon knew and your modern self had forgotten. Do you have your own thoughts? When I say bony box--i mean you keep dusting off the words of dead men. Or I might mean something else entirely. |
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anyway where the hell is Evan Duffield?  It works both ways. |
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Live in your own bony box. I'll go where my bliss takes me. He who is not satisfied with a little, is satisfied with nothing.
("Box," as you use it, is a loaded symbol.) If a limit cannot be defined with the arbitrary (numerical) value 𝛿, it cannot be defined. Reductionist live in a vacuum of their own creation every idea that enters is prodded and poked relentlessly--the squirming carcass thrown back to the living to revitalize itself and resume its infinite course. |
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I don't do reddit or twitter or facebook. You have my permission to copy my question and post it. I assume that you would be interested in his response. EDIT ------ You started this thread, don't you want to read his justification? Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2546 |
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Dear Peter (if I may be so bold as to call you that as we have never met):
I read your twitter statement comparing DASH to snake oil. I'm trying to understand your premise. Could you elaborate with any relevant facts, documents, test results, theories, quotes, assertions, or anything at all that will help me validate your concerns.
Thank you,
An Enthusiast.
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There, that should get a response from his holiness within the hour.
Do you think he's lurking here? Try this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ |
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^  Good piece. Once a direct neural to computer interfaces reach the point where neurons can interact intimately with data, the bony veil of our skull will be lifted and our brain's capacity will expand into computer assisted consciousness. Though some may want to sit in their dusty recliners and muse (too much) over the meaning of symbols, without really getting that it's subjective and can't be redistributed in the value driven world with out some sort of mental violence--usually in the form of name and link dropping. I want to be inside the computer and see what alien values arise, if any.... how can you be certain of anyone else's existence but your own?
That system would then be able to identify cases where the latter exists in the absence of the former, and hence, to learn to distinguish between cases of veridical perception and cases of hallucination. Such internal monitoring is viewed here as constitutive of conscious experience: A mental state is a conscious mental state when the system that possesses this mental state is (at least non-conceptually) sensitive to its existence. Thus, and unlike what is assumed to be case in HOT Theory, meta-representations can be both subpersonal and non-conceptual.
No mechanism whereby a self could ascertain the extrinsic-thereto could exist extrinsic to it; therefore, the self cannot be (conclusively) said to perceive anything beyond itself. However, “the self” is an element of the phenomenology of consciousness and exists within the real only insofar as the "meta-representations" (Cleeremans 1, 4, 6-7, 10-1) that precipitate it so exist. Live in your own bony box. I'll go where my bliss takes me. |
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meme
And attacking monero is refuting Todd, how? Can't Evan refute Peter's assessment or are shills with memes the only thing propping dash up? Still snake oil.... It's difficult to refute Peter's assessment when he provides absolutely no details other than name calling. Now if he would elaborate...Have you asked him? No? I'll elaborate on an obvious flaw in its supposed anonymity, maybe you can refute it:
I don't trust this system. I can't see it and verify it. What good is it for everything to be hidden completely, to the point where you have to trust that it is working?
With a simple, understandable system that fully protects the privacy of the user, yet requires no trust - as was always the whole point of the decentralized crypto currency of Bitcoin - DASH is not more superior due to it's complexity, but due to it's simplicity. If you're such a technocrat that you don't understand this, I can only feel bad for you because the majority of the world will.
LOL. Here's the attack vector Evan created out of ignorance, stupidity or pure not giving a fuck. The easiest attack is to buy masternodes and ddos attack competing nodes until you own the traffic. Evan claims it's financially implausible, but ignores that nodes are most profitable when there about a 1,000 masternodes (he has a ROI graphic on the dash BCT thread that underscores this). He also ignores that the attacker would be pulling incomes from these masternodes--given that most are held on corporate servers underlies that no one knows who owns them outside of the host and the owner. He also ignores how motivated an attacker may be, that he or another masternode operator might comply given the right circumstances (threat or lawful compliance) and how deep LE's pockets are--silly, dangerous, stupid. If you trust that system knowing the flaws, you deserve whatever comes your way--except maybe being linked to pedophiles--can you show that link on your explorer? DOS'ing masternodes doesn't reduce the anonymity set of the transactions or coins mixed before the DOS. If the masternode count drops 50% for example all of a sudden, mixing coins at that moment is not a good idea. It was already suggested a year ago or so that the wallet would take care of this and protect the user during the network downtime. It hasn't been implemented yet afaik, DASH must grow at least 100x at minimum before this (an appearance of such a motivated attacker) would become even a possibility. DDOS is to control the majority of nodes, not to directly reduce the anonymity set--though by doing so while monitoring the nodes you posses would break anonymity--which was my point. Nice suggestion, but wouldn't an attacker take control of the nodes before any measures were taken, while it was cheapest, and while they could gain the most info for the longest time without raising any red flags? Also, you still have no measure in reality or in the works to stop an organization from using coercion or compliance to motivate a node operator to turn over data--this is even better since the whatevermine granted the first users such a large stash of coins and the masternodes are most likely concentrated in a few hands. But here's the big problem: masternodes are human controlled intermediaries that perform important functions. Whatever breaks dash's anonymity will happen because you trust this moronic system that is begging to be broken. You are playing a game of whack-a-mole and apparently no one in dashland has the theoretical capability to see it or the moral compass to speak up. Snake oil. |
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meme
And attacking monero is refuting Todd, how? Can't Evan refute Peter's assessment or are shills with memes the only thing propping dash up? Still snake oil.... |
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Cross-posting FYI (Monero and his forum, some facts about the work they are doing): No. The reality is that you have no community, no development, no markerting. It's not me saying, you can check it here: Work in progress -> 3 threads Funding Required -> 2 threads You don't have any "Developers Thread" or "testing" area. Nothing. In Academic and technical you have only 9 threads!!!! You are an absolute fraud. It's good that the real investors do some research, Monero is only a big hype. Keep spamming, trolling and fudding hard the competition. That's the only you can do. |
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