Economic Totalitarianism

[generalizethis]

Live in your own bony box. I'll go where my bliss takes me.  

He who is not satisfied with a little, is satisfied with nothing.

("Box," as you use it, is a loaded symbol.) If a limit cannot be defined with the arbitrary (numerical) value 𝛿, it cannot be defined.

Reductionist live in a vacuum of their own creation every idea that enters is prodded and poked relentlessly--the squirming carcass thrown back to the living to revitalize itself and resume its infinite course.

[username18333]

Reductionist live in a vacuum of their own creation every idea that enters is prodded and poked relentlessly--the squirming carcass thrown back to the living to revitalize itself and resume its infinite course.

The [postmodern iteration of the] philosophy of Epicurus (341–270 B.C.E.) [is] a complete and interdependent system, involving a view of the goal of human life ([Maslow’s hierarchy of needs]), an empiricist theory of knowledge ([the scientific method]), a description of [the real and hyperreal] based on [quantum mechanical] materialism, and a naturalistic account of evolution, from the formation of the world to the emergence of human societies.

The wealth required by nature is limited and is easy to procure; but the wealth required by vain ideals extends to infinity.

[generalizethis]

Reductionist live in a vacuum of their own creation every idea that enters is prodded and poked relentlessly--the squirming carcass thrown back to the living to revitalize itself and resume its infinite course.

Epicurus believed that, on the basis of a radical materialism which dispensed with transcendent entities such as the Platonic Ideas or Forms…

The universe is in a constant state of flux, to try to contain it (even the temporary yourself of this moment) is to deny yourself chaos. So when you try to pin down a word you miss the beauty of Shakespeare's "Brevity is the soul of wit" which simultaneously uses intelligence and humor as its base. I love using words that are adaptable to many meanings, that can't be pinned down and analyzed effectively. Every poet has had that moment when a word is used out of sheer bliss, and later when you go to do a more analytical edit, you read it and  think, "That can't be the right word, it doesn't even make sense!" But nonetheless you go and look up the etymology and there it is: an old meaning that your daemon knew and your modern self had forgotten.

Do you have your own thoughts? When I say bony box--i mean you keep dusting off the words of dead men. Or I might mean something else entirely. 

[username18333]

The universe is in a constant state of flux…

Perhaps, should it be; however, “[t]he universe” (generalizethis) might be.

[generalizethis]

The universe is in a constant state of flux…

In which case, “[t]he universe” (generalizethis) would be; however, it might be.

What do you think?  

[username18333]

What do you think?  

He that walketh with wise [men] becometh wise; but a companion of the foolish will be depraved.

[generalizethis]

What do you think?  

He that walketh with wise [men] becometh wise; but a companion of the foolish will be depraved.

What do you think? Or are you an AI programmed to quote others?

And didn't Judas walk with the wise? 

[generalizethis]

What do you think? Or are you an AI programmed to quote others?

A scorner seeketh wisdom, and there is none [for him]; but knowledge is easy unto the intelligent.

(I compose replies through the syntheses of quotes.)

So you don't have original thoughts? Just copy and paste others? And aren't you trying to scorn me with your copy and pasting? I wasn't even thinking about you until you kept repeating [generalizthis] within quotations. But  I see someone who lacks the courage to put forth their own thoughts and is quick to ridicule others when it doesn't jive with what they were taught.

The coward laughs behind the mask of the righteous
He seeks to destroy what he doesn't understand
He is doomed to repeat what was lost
And not see the age at hand

[username18333]

So you don't have original thoughts? Just copy and paste others? And aren't you trying to scorn me with your copy and pasting? I wasn't even thinking about you until you kept repeating [generalizthis] within quotations. But  I see someone who lacks the courage to put forth their own thoughts and is quick to ridicule others when it doesn't jive with what they were taught..

What I write is without the authority of Time, save that even he corroborates my tales.

[generalizethis]

So you don't have original thoughts? Just copy and paste others? And aren't you trying to scorn me with your copy and pasting? I wasn't even thinking about you until you kept repeating [generalizthis] within quotations. But  I see someone who lacks the courage to put forth their own thoughts and is quick to ridicule others when it doesn't jive with what they were taught..

What I write is without the authority of Time, save that even he corroborates my tales.

You should go back to quotations. Sorry, i get it now.

[TPTB_need_war]

Please stop feeding that troll who wants to pump his nebulous Great Empire Coin™ into every discussion that is proximate to the nature of money and society. It is burying this thread in pages and pages of neologisms and obscure philosophical quotes which are all OT of this thread which as stipulated in the opening post of this thread is supposed to be about practical solutions to Economic Totalitarianism. (note I have been very patient with him over the past year, so please don't accuse me of not being open to tangential discussion)

I just wish he would stop his apparently intentional efforts to take practical discussion off on philosophical abstractions which are often not even clearly correct or at least not precisely relevant. I mean we are in a crisis mode right now and need to focus our energies on tangible efforts.

I have debated Chomsky for example on Hume. I aced the course in Philosophy at the university and even I have corrected an IQ test on a philosophical test question. I can go there, but please not here and not now. Because for one reason is I am a reductionist and will pour energy into sieving the generative essence which consumes much effort, especially when we are referring to the wide open abstractions of philosophy.

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Question about 2015.75. It seems Greece and its creditors have managed to extend-and-pretend into 2016, and that looked to be the most obvious source of sovereign debt contagion. (Of course it is still possible this latest bailout deal will unravel.) Is there another one?

[trollercoaster]

http://www.rt.com/news/310305-ukraine-nato-military-exercise/

[trollercoaster]

To me it appears 2015.75 will be the beginning of a federalized Europe and eliminating cash, all signs are pointing towards totalitarianism despite the European peoples wishes.

http://www.lejdd.fr/Politique/Francois-Hollande-Ce-qui-nous-menace-ce-n-est-pas-l-exces-d-Europe-mais-son-insuffisance-742998

[TPTB_need_war]

To me it appears 2015.75 will be the beginning of a federalized Europe and eliminating cash, all signs are pointing towards totalitarianism despite the European peoples wishes.

http://www.lejdd.fr/Politique/Francois-Hollande-Ce-qui-nous-menace-ce-n-est-pas-l-exces-d-Europe-mais-son-insuffisance-742998

Agreed. 2016-2017 is the ratcheting of the cascade for submission of sovereignty for EU nations.

For the USA, that will come later in 2017-2018 with the peak ingress of safe haven seeking capital-chasing-capital ducks stampede in from the periphery and with the allegedly closet-lesbian, ashtray-hurling, führer Hellary Slimeton at the "Little Village" socialism, concentration camps "either you are with us or against us" profiling helm.

Note Asia will also experience a sharp downturn (shrinkage of their export markets, corporations sold huge bond issues denominated in dollars and $usd will appreciate) but unlike the Western nations which are burdened with fiscal debt, Asia's excessive debt load is only at the corporate level (even in China because bankrupt LGOs should be viewed as separate from the central government and can be politically thrown overboard in defaults/writedowns) and can be defaulted. Thus Asia will bottom 2020 and start rising again. While the Western nations are politically embroiled in a fiscal debt morass NWO from which there is no escape other than a Knowledge Age for those who avail of it.

However, Asia will lead the NWO because Asia is top-down run by fascist taipans. Thus the real antithesis to the NWO is the Knowledge Age and not Asia's fiscal and youthful demographics buoyancy that is being harvested by the taipans.

Question about 2015.75. It seems Greece and its creditors have managed to extend-and-pretend into 2016, and that looked to be the most obvious source of sovereign debt contagion. (Of course it is still possible this latest bailout deal will unravel.) Is there another one?

My model of the Euro crisis is that TPTB created the Euro currency union separate from a fiscal union, to enable the model for cascade into a NWO.

They pumped debt into the overvalued nations then as the usury compounded coupled with the appreciation of the Euro that outran their incapacity to produce, the impending defaults forced a choice of increasing the debts or defaulting.

The EU banking model was set up such that the member nations would have no realistic choice but to accept ever increasing debt bailouts (coupled with austerity which accelerates the need for more debt bailouts). TPTB have forced the national fiscal balance sheets to assume this debt and they are metastasizing this debt load throughout the EU into the northern balance banks and also eventually entirely on the northern fiscal balance sheets:

see also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xu5sTyAXyAo#t=526

It is interesting that Ireland will pay billions for decades in a modern form of
Danegeld and only a select few insiders aware of the flow. Expect the flow to increase
until it can no longer be hid.  

Simultaneously TPTB set up the Basel rounds of increasingly strict banking disclosure and mark-to-market Tier capital classifications which are being staged phased in to ratchet the cascade contagion.

The cascade model is that the instances of debt crises throughout the EU will accelerate until all the nation-states are incapacitated by debt on their fiscal balance sheets, at which point they will have entirely submitted their sovereignty to the EU and ECB.

So the contagion will not be a debt default until it encompasses a default of all the EU nations, and at that point there will be monetary reset with sovereignty submitted to the EU, wherein all the debts will be written down using the ECB.

I predicted this in 2010 with the widely syndicated essay:

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Understand%20Everything%20Fundamentally.html#europe

You will probably need a week or two of studying the thread slowly.

I will be the first to admit I needed a week to fully absorb the following works of AnonyMint.

The Rise of Knowledge
Understand Everything Fundamentally

Together these are quite simply the most insightful piece of economic theory I have ever read.

If the author is right and I think he is we are all in the midst of a tragedy of epic proportions.  It is sad unstoppable and will devastate the lives of much of humanity.Once you understand the basics of the modern financial system you are ready to move on to Anonymint's more complex writings and ideas. I would start with

Understand Everything Fundamentally

Understand everything fundamentally covers the broader principle of collectivism and its dangers including the tragic consequences of our current economic trajectory. It also covers the principles of centralization and degrees-of-freedom in the economy. Next up is

The Rise of Knowledge

The rise of knowledge is in my opinion the very best of Anonymint's writing. In it he covers finance and why the role of finance and debt will progressively decline in the future. It is a compelling argument that describes how and why humanity will eventually and inevitability break free of the chains of finance and unrestrained collectivism and enter an age of knowledge.

CoinCube Highlights:
Information is Alive
The Entropic Theory of Life
A Defense of Socialism
The Birth of Contentionism

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The cascade model is that the instances of debt crises throughout the EU will accelerate

Okay so what instances are going to happen in 2015 to accelerate things? Greece appears, for now, to be deferred until 2016.

[MF Doom]

The cascade model is that the instances of debt crises throughout the EU will accelerate

Okay so what instances are going to happen in 2015 to accelerate things? Greece appears, for now, to be deferred until 2016.

I am wondering the same thing.  Are there going to be more "debt restructurings" for countries like Italy, Portugal, Spain?  Do the huge stock losses in China have any bearing on these countries and their debt?

Also, does you modeling predict more social unrest?  It seems like the US has been preparing for this for some time, will there be some sort of false flag/computer bug/ cyber attack that will spur things this fall?

[TPTB_need_war]

Also, does you modeling predict more social unrest?  It seems like the US has been preparing for this for some time, will there be some sort of false flag/computer bug/ cyber attack that will spur things this fall?

Armstrong does also incorporate a Cycle of War model and yes it is pointing to 2017 as the start of intra- (aka civil unrest) and international war. Also about that time or 2018 is Pandemic Cycle (backtested since beginning of recorded human history as are all of Armstrong's models) is pointing to potentially a pandemic (perhaps war will spread it as was the case for how the Black Death entered Europe).

With that model he was able to pinpoint Ukraine and the start of issues in Ukraine precisely and long before it was on the news or on anyone else's radar.

People are not ready. We are heading into some serious shit and soon.

The cascade model is that the instances of debt crises throughout the EU will accelerate

Okay so what instances are going to happen in 2015 to accelerate things? Greece appears, for now, to be deferred until 2016.

I haven't been studying it that closely (so much crap lurking and my head is in the programming sand), but the instances will accelerate (even in 2015) and come from all over the place, especially in 2016.

Probably some rating agency downgrade, Basel deadline, or something just after the Europeans get back from summer vacations after August. Something big will happen in September. Armstrong will probably home in on it soon. I'll be paying attention and bump the thread once I am aware of it. I remember something Armstrong wrote about a requirement on Greece that comes in August or September...

This exhale on Greece will be very short-lived. The episodes of calm will become shorter and shorter, and volatility will increase and increase. October is the BIG BANG.

P.S. Note I prepended to my prior post.

Edit: I maintain move to dollar cash until after October. Then on those lows move to dollars, US stocks, gold, and crypto. After 2017, my only hope is on crypto. After 2020, try to invest in Asia if you can hide it from your home countries' capital controls and virtual/proxied internment of yourself where ever you may roam.

Edit#2: Armstrong's computer model for the Euro chart points to a big event in September (the Composite bar at top row) with Volatility increasing in August after quieting in July which will be very significant Long-term and Directional change in September:



I believe he called for 0.85 level so perhaps it will break down through to the lowest purple trendline sometime between November and January. Note the bright yellow Trading cycle in February, so that might be the low for the Euro?

[MF Doom]

Also, does you modeling predict more social unrest?  It seems like the US has been preparing for this for some time, will there be some sort of false flag/computer bug/ cyber attack that will spur things this fall?

Armstrong does also incorporate a Cycle of War model and yes it is pointing the 2017 as the start of intra- (aka civil unrest) and international war. Also about that time or 2018 is Pandemic Cycle (backtested since beginning of recorded human history as are all of Armstrong's models) is pointing to potentially a pandemic (perhaps war will spread it as was the case for how the Black Death entered Europe).

With that model was able to pinpoint Ukraine and the start of issues in Ukraine precisely and long before it was on the news or on anyone else's radar.

People are not ready. We are heading into some serious shit and soon.

I agree, some strange stuff is going on.  I stopped following the "alternative media" crowd because they seemed to be the only ones pointing to growing social unrest, but it seems like a lot of the things they had been saying are looking like reality.  I have been following their reports again for the past few months.  Military on the streets of the US seems like a highly probable thing.  The govt going to war with veterans/gun owners too is causing backlash.

No longer is the US gvt acting like they have all the time in the world to act.  I think their attacks on gun owners will continue, as they are trying to make it illegal for large segments of the population to own a gun.  I think this is how they plan to further the unrest in the US.

[TPTB_need_war]

Military on the streets of the US seems like a highly probable thing.  The govt going to war with veterans/gun owners too is causing backlash.

No longer is the US gvt acting like they have all the time in the world to act.  I think their attacks on gun owners will continue, as they are trying to make it illegal for large segments of the population to own a gun.  I think this is how they plan to further the unrest in the US.

I think not until late 2017 or perhaps 2018. And the worst of war probably not until 2019 - 2023 or maybe even after 2024 for the worst for the West. Note in my prior post that Asia will strengthen after 2020 while the West will collapse. Perhaps proxy wars with China and Russia from 2018 to 2023 (e.g. Ukraine and Baltic states, plus the South China sea issue in SE Asia), and then some hot wars in the West from 2024 to 2032 (China and Russia attack directly the USA and Europe?). Two stages of international war akin to WW1 and WW2. Also ISIS in the Middle East.

The economic side of the crisis has to worsen much more before the blood shed begins. Our first challenge is hurdling the economic downturn and warfare (capital controls and expropriation). That is what drives the unrest and eventually war.

Need time for the ratcheting.

Edit: Armstrong posted about Wesley Clark's quip and related it to internment camps:

http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35243
http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35146