Gorgeous. How about a 3d one?

THE LOTTERY, THE WALL STREET PROJECT AND THE FOUNDATION

I have expressed on IRC that the 50% take from the top is abusive and that donations should be voluntary. I won't add to that. Whoever wants to play, up to them, it's just not right. And before anyone comes with the usual "every lottery..." every lottery in the world gives ALL his proceedings to CHARITY projects and
/or EDUCATION. Otherwise they would be illegal schemes to take money from the people. End of that subject.

The Wall Street project: First a couple of corrections to IE: It is "due" respect, not "do" respect; the other is pure semantics: Criticism is not necessarily "negative", like you assume the word means. being critical (as in "critical thinking", means to examine all the possible aspects of a subject and point out the positives and the negatives).

I do not know if the proposed Wall Street project will have short/long term positive effects or negative effects on BC. Or if it will have positive effects on the price of the coin, but negative ones on the brand. Or viceversa. In principle and after careful consideration (and critical thinking), I believe it could do more for good than for bad, but I am far from sure either way. I am quite skeptical of "passionate support" from people that is easily enticed by catering to their greed and appreciate more sober observation (and vision), by those who have a much longer term project for BlackCoin. I repeat: I believe it will be generally positive, but I would understand that others may believe differently. As such, I agree that the "Foundation" would distance itself from it. Clearly. IE doesn't need their support and as his initiative, whatever good or bad will come from it, should not be attached to the image of BlackCoin.

I have locked horns with IE in the recent past and I definitely find his passion endearing ... if generally misguided. I believe a lot others feel the same way. While his enthusiasm as initiatives are many times commendable others are ego-driven and totally ill-guided. I won't point to them one by one but most on this board can recall several of the latest ones. It is good the BC is not associated with those initiatives. It is good that BC distance itself from the ideas -good and bad- of a single supporter. It is good the BC takes the high road of a much wider perspective to keep the main subject in focus: PROTECT THE BRAND.

That said, and after spending considerable time on IRC, I have found that several on this dev team are very, extremely shaky in their ability to steer BC on the right direction and I fear many mistakes are just wanting to happen. I have read, many times, on IRC, that "the pool is not vital" by member os the dev team. I have read direct attacks on educated criticism of some of the initiatives -such as the lottery (mind you not opposed to the lottery, but to the 50% take from the top) and others-, by members of the dev team that not only on occasion act like school patio bullies and hoodlums when confronted with different opinions, but actually threaten those who oppose some of their ideas. And yes, that includes Soepkip and Gritt, among others. It would be quite advisable that they spend less time on IRC, more actually working and that they take into real and deep consideration ideas they initially oppose and examine them before viscerally (or greedily) attacking not only those ideas but the individuals behind them that "annoys" them. A bit more maturity should be desirable.

IE: Good work on the cards, good work on the Wall Street project (I get the purpose, many, amazingly, dont and see it as a schooling project or as a sales event (), but not all your initiatives are or have been positive. Be open to criticism (the good, the bad and the ugly) and above all to accept that sometimes you must just simply be wrong as so many times is the case when passion clouds the mind. And consider that, as often could be the case, there are children -if not total morons- among us.

This is the kind of news that we need. Very badly, as a matter of fact. ++++

Gorgeous indeed.

But a nicer pic of the shiny shine is needed

The pool mess continues. And it is hurting the coin quite deeply...

Huge +

So you don't like my attitude? Oh well, like they said you can please some of the people most of the time but you cannot please all the people all the time.

When something I am interested in is being handled poorly, I express my opinion -quite educated if I may say so myself-, offer cooperation and, if capable, advice. I did that with the Spaincoin dev. I posted, repeatedly, "do not insult your customers -the Spanish people- with a "gift" that's worth less than what costs to claim it". This was just common sense for anyone knowing his mouth from his ass, but that is not the case and this idiot chose to go with the greedy wishes of foreign nationals that had been accumulating worthless coins, instead of doing the obvious to try to... well, just add some value to it. The results speak for themselves and yes, I wish you and all the greedy mofos that did not care one bit about the coin, that you lose every single penny you put into that shameless "effort".

If I haven't grown at this stage in the run, it isn't very likely I would ever do but it's always an interesting challenge... except when the advice comes... well, from below the ground. And no, nobody owes my or anyone else anything but if someone wants my approval or my money behind their project, they better show that they are competent enough in what they do.

You would not know anything about that now, would you? May I suggest StreetFighter 2 or it is perhaps too complicated for you?

Just so you know, barabbas here parked himself on the Spaincoin forum and attacked and abused anyone trying to support that coin. As the value went down, he then ranted that the value was so low it was now an insult to try and gift it to anyone Spanish. I guess he's moved here now, I suggest hitting the ignore button rather than drawn in to these pointless squabbles.
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First the top:

Good decision, not interested nat all in the "technology" behind it. I could very easily -and any 6 year old too- understand it, but not interested at all.

And I don't post insults, but my assumptions are confirmed by every single one of your posts.

As I have stated, my contribution -if you want to call it that- is to have tried to instill probably unnecessary common sense in team-dev to stop your crazy, unethical, brand-destroying pump idea. Nothing innovative, just common sensical.

As for the Dragon: Yes, I am beyond critical of that piece of shit coin launched by the most incompetent of devs in cryptoworld. As a Spaniard, I tried to help when the concept came out... only to see NOTHING done correctly but this absurdly incompetent dev. As a Spaniard, I stated I considered -and still do- an insult to the Spanish people to offer 500 coins worth absolutely nothing. The answer of the people cannot be clearer. It could be louder... only if anyone would ever care about the coin which has become quickly and irreparably a funny sideshow in the world of crypto.

Now, dragoncito, go on trying to smear. People that actually want to ignore, DO.

 This is a bit too much... but I guess you somehow need it... Sad, very sad. The "design of the card, outside of the logo, is your regular credit card with a black background, Monster "design creation" on your part. As for the software, aren't all those phone cards that came out like 10 years ago, rechargeable? Is that the "software innovation" you are bringing to the BC table? You do know you can order now refillable credit cards with photos of Elvis, Marilyn... etc., don't you? But yours is indeed an amazing contribution to the BC community worth at least half the current price in the market. Or more. Happier now?

And do you realize that stating opinions about me without having the slightest idea of who I am or what may I have  accomplished just makes you look pathetically silly? Oh well if you need your jollies jigged that way, I guess you do. To each his own.

  

Nice. But it'd be nicer even if in 3-d.

That you pretend to know anything about me is just pathetic, in a funny kind of way. So ok, create whatever perception you may have of me that blocks you from looking at the mirror and see yourself.

So you "created" a card. Nice looking, no doubt and a collection item if you ask me... not for "your" design, but the the logo design that I state on every post is not only gorgeous but BC's best assent beyond team-community. Those should sell like hot cakes NOT BECAUSE OF YOU or any trust, but as simple beautiful collectible item. I will get one myself, as a matter of fact. And not because they are usable at the moment for any practical way. But you want credit for it? OK, all to you. More satisfied now? And, you don't know, you maybe more remembered for it than for the vague memory of you everyone in the forum someday, kind of the endearing cloudy memory one has when years past of the town's fool.

And no, I did not spend all those words analyzing you -but of course an egomaniac of your proportions would assume so-, I used those words to make points that some in this forum needs to be reminded that ethics count for something and that raw greed most often destroys good projects and, well, you know, I see BC as a good project that depends on image and crypto-community's perception  and you know I don't want anyone mildly interested in the coin to come here and have the wrong perception... you, pal, offer the wrong perception to anyone/.

Fortunately you were given religion by a team that knows better to let the greedy bunch run amok. They will continue doing what they have done so greatly so far and, hopefully, reining in on yahoos out for prey.

Otherwise, good luck with the gorgeous card, like I said, I'll get one myself. Maybe two.

Here you go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvFwdD7aW1M

"What we have here is a lack of communication!". Well, not exactly: What we have here is Iconic desperately trying to make something inherently bad,  in every conceivable way, look... acceptable. Let's get this clear one and for all and with no room for interpretations or misunderstandings, semantics aside: PUMP, in the context of trading markets, is 100% bad. Period. No ifs, no busts, no maybes. It's actually illegal too ... in the real world and potentially also in the cryptoworld although pending precedent (imagine someone suing Iconic, these boards and Blackcoin for having lost a fortune due to Pump and dump schemes). Ok, before going further, "Dump", as in Pump and Dump, is equally a dirty word and equally illegal.

It is clear that iconic has a supersized ego, patently obvious. What he also has, beside an inflated "market-wise" concept of himself, is a total disconnect with reality... to suit his wild ideas "to help BC". And he takes any attack on his flagrantly obvious shortcomings to the common ground of "instead of attacking me why don't you tell me what you do for BC instead", as a sure way to deflate the attack. It's puerile, in fact, school patio stuff. And all of us here have seen "Wall Street" many times, so we are quite aware of the schemes that take place in Forex and the regular market. Most of us have also read the Flash Boys and many other books on the matter, not to mention seen "The Wolf of Wall Street" -great movie, bu the way-. What Iconic leaves out, so voluntarily, is that the SEC and the FBI ARE indeed watching over these schemes because, you know, they are ILLEGAL.

But the kicker is the pretended -we all know better- "muddling of the waters" when it comes to equate legitimate decisions, strategies, announcements, deals, etc., with illegal, organized activities such as the proposed pump and dump. That's not only absurd, not only NOT done by anyone (again: it is ILLEGAL) in the real world but also there are very strict punishment for those whose greed is tempted and filter "inside information". So no, the opposite is true and it is the obligation of every public company to release any information to the general public without benefiting in any way from the possible effects of the events, news or whatever object of such information.

But lets stop the rhetoric and cal it like it is: Pure and simple greed. When Iconic says absurdities like "I would round up a few friends of mine with $20k each..." or words of that effect, he's just going on his fantasy world. Assuming he has any real friends, assuming he has friends who participate and invest in the crypto world, none of them would have $20k that they would put in any way, shape or form, at the disposal of Iconic's absurd -and ethically and legally questionable- ideas. Not one. I doubt he himself has $20k to invest in this... but I'd be guessing and I don't want to do that. What is not a guessing game is that, for Iconic, the trading price of a major volume commodity or currency such as BC, not only is "manipulated" but SHOULD be manipulated... only to his liking and to serve his personal purposes (under the disguise, of course, of benefiting the "community"). It's just pure, simple greed, nothing else. Everyone and his aunt knows that when a pump takes place -and they naturally do, due to market euphoria, analysts releases and many other causes, the so called "smart money" has left the building already a long time before the bag holders run for the exits. A "market savvy" guy calling the shots Napoleon-like would be left holding "for the long term"? Come on! More importantly, how many of those "pumping" would become "smart money"? Finally, any so called "whale" loaded up on BC and obviously subscribed to the pump and dump group, whether private or public, would not be the first to jump the boat? ANY and all ways you look at it, this is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea only conceivable in the sick mind of a very greedy egomaniac. Because, clearly, what we have here is that, more even than a greedy one... The Napoleon-like situation, you know...

I have stated this before on IRC: This would come out as somehow sanctioned by the "Team" and would forever tarnish the reputation of BlackCoin. With the entire crypto community, the crypto-investing community and any noob coming in with curiosity and interest. Irreparable damage at that. BC has managed, through plain crazy luck, great community support and a "team" that so far has hit 99% of all the right notes, in less than 2 months what many others have failed to achieve in many more months, even years. It will have ups and downs in price that the "Team" should not even look at for it would distract them from the strategic plan and it will have big swings and, of course, attempts at manipulation by those with enough resources to game the game and all the growing pains of an extremely young and very successful enterprise. Jump in or jump out. Do help or don't, up to you if you even have a real possibility to do it. Cards? anything that exploits that gorgeous logo will be successful, be it cards, T-shirts, clothes, perfumes, anything... that would be marketing and will indeed come not necessarily pushing it, but when time is due either because the team decides to invest serious money in it or because outside forces find it potentially profitable and do themselves. Patience and greed, unfortunately, are like water and oil, they just don't mix.

Add an outsized ego and a tin foil hat to the equation, and you have a deadly cocktail.

Oh and, Iconic, before you go to the common place again, and suggest that I better do something for BC... well, I just did.

For those who missed the mark and couldn't jump on the GROUP PRE-ORDER OF THE TITAN

I reserved 10 shares in it. Unfortunately other commitments have come my way and I cannot pay for the 10 shares in the next few days so I am selling them to others that were interested and found out when all were sold. If you want 1 or the 10, please PM me and I'll transfer my reservation to you. You will have to send me the 40 BC per share that I paid when I made the reservation and that will count towards the payment of the rest.

Thank you!

Y que como va eso, suave el lanzamiengto y tal... acertadisimas tus decisiones dev, un genio tio.

Pues nada, de puta madre, a seguir que vas bien...

Delays are of no significance now in KNC since they have implemented their Plan B. There are no delays possible since you may nlot have the rig on time but you will be mining with identical power on time. That;s KNC's warranty. Our machine will not have such a warranty -at least that I am aware of at the moment- but since the manufacturer also operates a Cloud mining data centre it is quite logical to assume that they will offer tha same guarantee that KNC does.

Further details will fe offered as they are fully known.

You just don't get it: Obviously, this opportunity is not for you. But for others that are interested, you have no idea what you are talking about. KNC will be selling many more than 200-300 Titans, as a matter of fact they are selling in pre-order as of this mornig, 1,189 units... not exactly getting short on then, right? we will see if by delivery time they have pre-sold all of them or, if not, how many.

Again, I already have the latest Gridseed, the 80, so I know they are massively available in the market right now. What will the impact of all of this be in difficulty? great impact no doubt. WE all are fully aware of it as well as the many peculiarities, hassles and potential downfalls of this "business". We are also aware of the potentiality. Maybe BTC above $1,000 very soon? Maybe LTC at 4 times it's current value, maybe BC at 100 or 1,000 times it's current value. I don't know. Nobody does. But I want in and so do many others, alright? Once again, it's the calculators online who say ROI in less than 2 months, not me, understood?

I don't know how many KNC is offering but they haven't delivered yet the Neptunes so when they say Q1/Q2 it usually means the very last hours of Q2. So the Titans probably will arrive the last week of September, at the earliest, who knows. What I know though is that the difficulty in Scrypt is not going to increase that much in 5 weeks, and very little in the following 2 months... in it doesn't actually decrease, which has happened recently and is definitely possible. But I don't pretend to know more than anyone else and certainly not more than the calculators. Like I said, if you are not enthusiastic about the opportunity, by all means don't even consider it.

OK, I'll try to answer as fast as I can. "More info?" that's it. You purchase the thing we start mining as soon as it is delivered in the last week of May.

"Payouts" Once a week, to your BC wallet address.  This is mirroring what the guys at the shop are doing with the Titan group buy, ok? That's all there's to it.

And to the guy  who doubts the calculators, well, up to you man, whatever it is it is. Difficulty hasn't increased a lot as it was expected after the Terraminers IV and all the others arrived, has it? No one know what the difficulty increases in scrypt mining will be in the future but if the Titan is going to be profitable (and I am so sure it will be, wildly, and that's why I have purchased 10 shares in it), sure as hell this is going to be much more profitable since its delivery is significantly closer in time. But if you have dloubts or are skeptical about it, just don't participate, ok? Others will.

GROUP BUY OPPORTUNITY... UNBELIEVABLE


For those who missed the boat of the Titan Group Buy, and even for those who did not miss it but want more action right now, I am offering a different group buy for a new ASIC scrypt miner that will be pointed to the Blackcoin multipool for the first three months at least. VERY IMPORTANT: this will start mining the first week of June or earlier, so that means barely 5 weeks  from now, NOT 5 months (possibly) like the Titan. That means much lower difficulty too, therefore much more production.

The structure is the same (shares at $130, a total of 100 -some already bought, of course-) than the one used by the Blackcoin store. Think of it as a bridge
investment while you wait for the Titan to arrive. By then, there probably would have been months since ROI was achieved in this huge opportunity.

The unit will mine at 72 MH/s and any calculator online will show you that in less than 3 months it will have ROI'd. Since we will be pointing it to the Blackcoin multipool, that period of time could potentially be significantly shortened. It also means we are HELPING our favorite coin since all proceeds, once ROI is achieved, will be converted to Blackcoin.

Anyway, interested PM me and get moving. you will need to reserve your shares in the same manner used for the Titan, sending me $5.00 in Blackcoin to this address: BFnQA2kjxCc4Ex6TY6yyTjbJbSGZ4BNXyN. These are going to be disappearing very, very soon and with then a huge opportunity to make a lot of money AND benefit our favorite coin.

Thanks!

OK, this is amazing and just found it out: The manufacturer is offering to DOUBLE the amount of hash power for free!!!!

That's right, instead of 72MH/s we will be getting 144 MH/z for the manufacturer will double the power of the unit by giving us the same amount in their own cloud mining.... but only if we purchase it before April 30th. This is truly amazing: ROI in way less than 2 months. In fact a bounty bonanza. Let's gety this going now! Don't miss in what is going to be a huge, huge, huge opportunity.