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341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will survive after 100 year ? on: August 12, 2017, 01:36:52 AM
It will survive, at that time it will be the cybergold, price will be 100 millions maybe, who knows, lol
342  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much bitcoin do you need now to be a millionaire? on: August 12, 2017, 01:35:39 AM
Bitcoin almost $3700, so you need 270 bitcoins to be millionaire, well I don't have that many, but it's ok. Bitcoin will go a lot higher, I'll be a millionaire early or late  Cheesy
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 5th of 40 Rounds on: August 12, 2017, 01:32:51 AM
Thanks for the coins. Wow this community is hot, almost 400 pages, it is wonderful to be part of it.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 07, 2017, 05:58:34 PM
is snapshot taken yet? next month need to buy more gbytes, now less attractive to gain byteballs with BTCs
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 07, 2017, 05:53:03 PM
After August 7 we'll reach more than 50% distributed coins and will start a new phase of our distribution.

It was stated from day one that the purpose of this distribution is to get this coin into the hands of as many people as possible.  Both coins (bytes and blackbytes) are meant to be used as currencies, and this is only possible when there are many users and apps to interact with.  We already have a sizable community, a number of unique apps, and we are the only crypto project to have an app distribution platform (the Bot Store), but there is still a lot of room to grow in terms of user count, number of apps, and willingness of users to use these apps.

Up until now, we were distributing only to holders of BTC and Bytes, i.e. we were rewarding holding.  Now we are adding actual users into the mix, i.e. we are going to reward transactions.

To get you an idea of how we are going to do it, we are going to partner with several categories of companies:
- merchants
- payment processors
- "Bitcoin debit card" companies
and offer 10% cashback, paid in Bytes, for all qualifying purchases (no matter how the purchases are paid).  The cashback will be funded from the undistributed pool.  For example, a customer who bought for $100 receives $10 cashback in Bytes, paid to his Byteball address, at the current exchange rate.  For merchants, this is something that would drive sales and they would put effort into promoting the offer.  In competitive industries, a 10% cashback is a very powerful tool to lure customers.  For customers, this is a 10% discount (which matters a lot in some industries).  For Byteball, it is new users who will have to get involved into the system in order to receive the cashback.

A few companies have already expressed interest (not disclosing the names while it is a work in progress).

A few extensions of this offer:
- 20% cashback if the purchase is paid in bytes or blackbytes.  This would incentivize merchants to start accepting bytes and blackbytes, and the infrastructure will stay after the distribution ends.
- merchants can offer additional cashback to their customers.  Merchants fund it themselves by buying bytes from the market, and for every 1% funded by the merchant we add 1% more from the undistributed pool.

If you see similarity with existing loyalty points schemes, it is similar indeed.

At a minimum, we receive many new users who learn about Byteball from their merchants, plus working payment integrations.  And the users are not just crypto fans, it may be their first crypto coin for many users.  With the most user friendly wallet in the industry, we are in the best position to expand beyond the crypto village.

We can continue adding 10-20% to existing byte balances to incentivize keeping the received bytes before more infrastructure is built, rather than cashing out immediately.  

Two negative sides:
- the scheme is less transparent than plain adding on top of existing balances, and some share of fraud is inevitable.  Merchants might try to deceive us to receive coins for themselves by reporting nonexistent sales or selling to themselves.  This is mitigated by good choice of trustworthy merchants and our ability to disconnect any merchant at any time on suspicion of fraud.  Their customers can also try to find ways to abuse the system, again we'll require the merchants to prevent that by excluding some types of purchases, monitoring customers, enforcing caps, etc.  Additionally, if the merchant funds part of the cashback himself, he has skin in the game to counter the customer fraud.
- these new users are not holders for the most part, they are more likely to sell.  Not a big problem, the point is they already know about Byteball and it's easy for them to get back.  The new users are new to crypto, many of them won't use exchanges, and somebody will have to create new easier-to-use channels to fiat, which is positive for liquidity.  Also, 10%-20% monthly distributions discourage fast selling while the distribution is ongoing.  And lastly, the merchants who fund 50% of the cashback would partially balance the markets by buying coins.

On balance, I'm sure that these negatives are tolerable when we are going to achieve a vast expansion of our user base and acceptance at merchants.

For the current distribution round, nothing changes.

For the next distribution on September 6, we are changing the ratios in favor of Byte holders and slowing down the distribution to have more time to build out the cashback program:

BTC to Bytes: every 160 BTC gives you 1 GB from the distribution (or 0.00625 GB per BTC).
Bytes to Bytes: every 10 GB of existing balance gives you additional 1 GB from the distribution (in other words, +10% to existing balances).

Similar ratios for blackbytes.

For those who receive their first bytes from cashbacks, Sep 6 will be the first distribution when they receive +10%.

I'll make announcements as we add merchants in the cashback program.


Very interesting new distribution method. I like the fact we should reward less for BTC, we should reward more for those who hold Byteballs.
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 4th of 40 Rounds on: August 07, 2017, 05:41:42 PM

Relax guys, here's a fun video to enjoy. Make sure you turn on the subtitle (lower bar, left corner, after start on the lower right corner)  Grin

http://www.captiongenerator.com/632602/Fuding-from-the-bunker


reading some old posts and found this video, make me laugh big time... dev should put that in the OP Grin
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 4th of 40 Rounds on: August 07, 2017, 06:05:59 AM

u're meaning:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4416f5185fd5517f252228f3caa333de6441f3acf7830aaa47dd26894650b6ed/analysis/

obviously, these

not-a-virus:NetTool.Win32.TorJok.ea
not-a-virus:NetTool.Win32.TorJok.ea


aren't dangerous acording to the tor usage.

and about these

Win32.Trojan.WisdomEyes.16070401.9500.9665
Win32/Sorter.AVE.CryptLocker.AM
Suspicious_GEN.F47V0726


we should ask dev or anyone who can look into the sources.

This is a known issue from virustotal, I quote below the message from dfox101, I will do a compilation from source, and verify what dfox said.

I saw some people express their concerns about the windows client and total virus check results, I did a fresh compilation of the DeepOnion windows client, and the total virus shows a perfect clean result:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ede627a45eeb5da1968c108d351a1577cd74203e8baffcefe2ba10709aba941c/analysis/1501524847/

I uploaded the client here:
https://mega.nz/#!U8hRkDbJ!7SQKmAZ9T7ggumzKQBQK4CD5zLZxH_oYoYicgNjFWHY

There's a problem with TotalVirus, that many other coins noticed and there are discussions in their corresponding threads, such as Zclassic, Zcoin, to name a few, that a wallet client, initially tested perfect clean, in 2 weeks, will show some issues if you retest. This is a problem of the total-virus, and all the "issues" are false positives. This problem is not to DeepOnion alone, but to almost all altcoin wallets, as witnessed by many discussions in different threads.

The deeponion wallet is perfectly clean, as shown by the report above. If you have concerns, just compile yourself from the source, and test yourself. This is a very simple thing to do, and it is the right way to do instead of a few people irresponsibly spread false rumours (these people, of course, have other purpose in mind).


dfox101's description is exactly true. He showed his new compiled one has no virus detected by virustotal at the time:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ede627a45eeb5da1968c108d351a1577cd74203e8baffcefe2ba10709aba941c/analysis/1501524847/

and I just downloaded his compiled version (a week later), and re-analysed with virustotal, now it shows 3 issues:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ede627a45eeb5da1968c108d351a1577cd74203e8baffcefe2ba10709aba941c/analysis/1502084869/

I then compiled DeepOnion-qt from source and submit to virustotal to check, no virus at all:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/eed788a40b7bf9231d4c57cbcc11dd3e9aa61e5baa25d8513a8a56d2d4a05b6d/analysis/1502085600/

I am sure if I check my compiled DeepOnion-qt in a week or 2, I'll see some false positives. It is virustotal problem, not DeepOnion problem. DeepOnion is clean.
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 4th of 40 Rounds on: August 07, 2017, 05:40:52 AM

u're meaning:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/4416f5185fd5517f252228f3caa333de6441f3acf7830aaa47dd26894650b6ed/analysis/

obviously, these

not-a-virus:NetTool.Win32.TorJok.ea
not-a-virus:NetTool.Win32.TorJok.ea


aren't dangerous acording to the tor usage.

and about these

Win32.Trojan.WisdomEyes.16070401.9500.9665
Win32/Sorter.AVE.CryptLocker.AM
Suspicious_GEN.F47V0726


we should ask dev or anyone who can look into the sources.

This is a known issue from virustotal, I quote below the message from dfox101, I will do a compilation from source, and verify what dfox said.

I saw some people express their concerns about the windows client and total virus check results, I did a fresh compilation of the DeepOnion windows client, and the total virus shows a perfect clean result:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/ede627a45eeb5da1968c108d351a1577cd74203e8baffcefe2ba10709aba941c/analysis/1501524847/

I uploaded the client here:
https://mega.nz/#!U8hRkDbJ!7SQKmAZ9T7ggumzKQBQK4CD5zLZxH_oYoYicgNjFWHY

There's a problem with TotalVirus, that many other coins noticed and there are discussions in their corresponding threads, such as Zclassic, Zcoin, to name a few, that a wallet client, initially tested perfect clean, in 2 weeks, will show some issues if you retest. This is a problem of the total-virus, and all the "issues" are false positives. This problem is not to DeepOnion alone, but to almost all altcoin wallets, as witnessed by many discussions in different threads.

The deeponion wallet is perfectly clean, as shown by the report above. If you have concerns, just compile yourself from the source, and test yourself. This is a very simple thing to do, and it is the right way to do instead of a few people irresponsibly spread false rumours (these people, of course, have other purpose in mind).

349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 07, 2017, 05:34:38 AM
1.2 millions BTC linked, this is amazing. Byteball is going strong, and I think the price will go much higher.
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 4th of 40 Rounds on: August 07, 2017, 05:27:35 AM

As much as I value your concern for the community, This approach might lead to abuse. Suggestions can be biased, and also alot of members will be patronizing you in falsehood. I believe a random approach is the best. Let the real supporters contribute to the project without expecting a reward. Send rewards at your discretion.

P.s. Let's have constant rules to uplift the credibility of this project.

What dev decided makes a lot sense. Dev is not stupid, he or they know who contributed to the community the most and as valued members. It does not make sense to give double to someone who barely meet the requirement for airdrop and does not actively contribute.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡ [ANN] ⚡ DeepOnion TOR Integrated ⚡ No ICO 🚀 FREE Airdrops 🚀 4th of 40 Rounds on: August 07, 2017, 05:06:21 AM
Added my free Vote #215 for sure here we go... hopefully 250 votes reached by tomorrow on Nova.

Voted too.. Now 221. Soon we'll get to the target. It's 3 days? amazing comminuty.
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling on: August 06, 2017, 06:33:35 AM
BCC's block diff will soon be reduced? if so it could make the coin stable and faster block time
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: August 06, 2017, 05:33:59 AM
Is there a way to unlink the previous BTC address? I have a new BTC address and I linked it, now I have 2 BTC addresses, can I remove the old one which has zero balance?
354  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-07-26] Owner Of Russia's Largest BTC Exchange Arrested – Money May Be Lost on: July 31, 2017, 04:17:44 AM
It's ok the owner of btc-e is arrested, but why account money will be lost? There's no point for the government to seize customer accounts unless there are proof that money laundry is involved.
355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin digital gold or digital cash? on: July 31, 2017, 04:15:20 AM
Bitcoin is a digital gold due to its limited amount and deflationary feature. Its slowness can't be used for real time trading. But it represents the value, so it is digital gold.
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN ZERO token ICO, Next step in ICO evolution on: July 31, 2017, 01:38:20 AM
i like this one, hope the "investors" out there will invest their money. These "investors" poured the money into so many useless ICOs, now should appreciate this great ZERO coin!
357  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Blockchain related meet ups in San Francisco / Bay Area? on: July 31, 2017, 01:33:23 AM
https://www.meetup.com/Silicon-Valley-Bitcoin-Users/

Next meeting is July 11th in Sunnyvale

Thanks for the info. Will try to join the next meet up. Looking forward to meeting some new friends there.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BTC vs BCC on: July 31, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
not sure this is even comparable: bitcoin is the king of the cryptocurrency, BCC will be an altcoin like any others, there's nothing to be compared.
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: July 31, 2017, 01:28:41 AM
It's never too late, considering the bitcoin is in an early up stage. There are more to come with more and more adoptions it will go even higher.
360  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-07-31]License Required: Poloniex, Bitfinex Will Stop Operations in Washing on: July 31, 2017, 01:26:35 AM
Will these exchanges move out of USA or they can operate in other states? I agree there need to be regulations of this space, specially for ICOs.
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