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341  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 10:27:44 PM
Oh and "cypherpunk" is an ideology, not a fixed group of people or an asssociation.

Yes!   

vs

isn't it the same group, The Cypherpunks, that are

makes no sense.

Anyway, since you wanted to talk about the wikileaks cable. Did you read it?

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the most common crimes in Pattaya are petty thefts committed by local youths. When it comes to safety for foreigners, there were universal concurrences from our warden, the Thai Rath reporter, and Thai officials that Pattaya is generally safe for tourists, and that all of the police elements are sincere in keeping things orderly.

For comparison: First time I stayed in San Francisco (Marriott next to the Moscone center) the hotel concierge drew a line on the map, touching the hotel location, saying "don't cross this line after dark".

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The opening of Thailand's new Suvarnabhumi airport will also benefit Pattaya, as Thailand's largest international travel hub moves from a location on the opposite side of Bangkok to a location nearest to Pattaya.

Anyways. I have a book suggestion for you. Neuromancer, by Gibson. Cypherpunk (most definitely not a group) was coined much later, but is partly based on that world view.
342  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 10:04:16 PM
They are of course of a common mind it seems to me. 

Yes. So is everyone else who got into computers in that era. Myself included.

That "the same" group would be behind the completely different projects you listed isn't any more plausable though, especially since we know the identities of everyone except Satoshi.

343  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 09:42:53 PM
Btw, isn't it the same group, The Cypherpunks, that are behind such things as pgp and bittorrent etc., who are the same people who are behind wikileaks and Bitcoin?

Two seconds with Google would be the average time needed to disprove that hypothesis.
344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $80 Android Phone Sells Like Hotcakes in Kenya on: August 28, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
Doesn't this reveal a more serious problem? If carriers can block Bitcoin traffic, then what's stopping govs from pressuring them to do so?

I'm expecting carriers in countries with no concept of net neutrality to start filter/interrupt Bitcoin traffic just as they are torrents, today. Bitcoin is even a lot easier, there's been no reason to use development resources on a so far nonexistent problem.

345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $80 Android Phone Sells Like Hotcakes in Kenya on: August 28, 2011, 09:09:47 PM
You can stop a tcp port, but you can't stop other bitcoin apps. But actually I don't think that bitcoin is blocked in Safaricom net.

I don't think anything is blocked, yet. If they want to, I know (really) that the cell network providers (Ericsson, Huawei etc) have deep packet inspection services that can identify and block Bitcoin traffic easily if the carriers wanted to.

346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New coins from old backup wallet.dat what gives? on: August 28, 2011, 09:06:00 PM
So what is the frequency of which you should backup your keys in your wallet.dat file?

Is a key used for every transaction?

So if you have gone past 100 transactions and you have an old backup - it's usless because you have gone beyond those keys?

Am I getting this now or no?


The default client generates a new key for every transaction, yes. However, the old keys are still the ones opening the vaults to the transactions they were part of - so it would only be "useless" for transactions using newer keys that weren't there when you made that backup. Of course, newer backups would take care of those as well.

Personally I use a tool that makes new encrypted backups whenever the wallet file changes (=new transactions/keys), and I can travel back in time to any previous wallet version.

The official client could indeed explain how this works in a better way.

347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make sure Bitcoin will never be banned by governments! on: August 28, 2011, 07:37:54 PM
Information is not illegal.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110615/14240014708/us-trying-to-extradite-uk-tvshack-admin-over-questionable-copyright-charges.shtml

On topic: This is a great initiative. I assume it's the world wide and not only the US branch of United Way?
348  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
Take your friend dexfor with you. --- I hope you two have a nice vacation in sex land

How surprising, more ignorance.

I have no interest whatsoever in visiting Pattaya
349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $80 Android Phone Sells Like Hotcakes in Kenya on: August 28, 2011, 07:30:24 PM
how can they stop it for smartphones with Internet?

Because there's no concept of net neutrality.

350  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 07:29:44 PM
most

Don't ever mistake the vocal minority for a majority.

351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $80 Android Phone Sells Like Hotcakes in Kenya on: August 28, 2011, 06:39:34 PM
i read somewhere that patent license costs are expected to exceed 100$ per device in the near future

Don't worry.

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Our acquisition of Motorola will increase competition by strengthening Google’s patent portfolio, which will enable us to better protect Android from anti-competitive threats from Microsoft, Apple and other companies.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/supercharging-android-google-to-acquire.html
352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here we go again, another major price drop for bitcoins on: August 28, 2011, 06:32:52 PM
Thank you for answering my question. You're not even trying to be serious.

353  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 06:21:19 PM
Start by giving us a good reason for choosing Pattaya, given its reputation among many

Hey look, in 2009 that same conference center had an expo called "MONEY EXPO Pattaya 2009" - by Thailand's first bank. Must be a really bad place for conferences, especially about money.

they're ignorant because they claim Amsterdam is only known for drugs & sex, Pattaya is only known for child prostitution, New York is only known for drug related gang wars, San Francisco is only known as a great place to meet friendly bums, Moscow is only known as the place where former KGB agents assassinate journalists etc.
354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here we go again, another major price drop for bitcoins on: August 28, 2011, 06:19:09 PM
I think you're wrong there, because at any given moment in time, a trader really has 3 options: buy, sell, wait.

Are you even trying to be serious?

Yes, of course there's not-buy/not-sell also. In my computing example, that would be an idle CPU. It doesn't change the argument whatsoever.

355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $80 Android Phone Sells Like Hotcakes in Kenya on: August 28, 2011, 06:17:43 PM
the black continent

o_O

But anyway. I verified last week, by talking to someone in the Kenyan M-PESA industry, that Bitcoin would indeed be a cheaper alternative to M-PESA for the consumers if the carriers will allow Bitcoin data in their networks.

356  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
And you do realize other people can read your posts and come to the conclusion you like to be argumentative

Yes, that is how I debate trolls. If you want serious discussions I suggest you try to base your arguments on facts and not opinions - and I'll treat your posts differently.

the debate is about the location being a sex tourist destination with a world wide reputation and attaching bitcoin's image to it

If that was true (and it's also a straw man btw), can you point me to where those organizations that have had conferences in Pattaya has had a sex tourist destination image attached to their reputation?

I'll start by claiming you won't be able to.
357  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
On another topic, the current state of this Forum has made it almost useless.... with the children who are all about vandalizing the forum with viscous comments and attacking everyone.   I am considering starting my own Forum --- separate from this one --- for adults only.   I don't really have time to moderate a Forum, but I will hire someone to do so if I need to.   We need a Forum for open adult discussion.

Agreed - and that's basically what I asked SgtSpike if bitcoinforums.net would do or not: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37801.0

I'm fully in favor of relaxed moderation, but there's obviously concerted trolling going on here where it's not about expressing opinions anymore.

(I don't believe it's about young or adult though. Just ignorance)

I am done with talking with you about this. 

I would expect so, since you're unable to back up your argument Smiley
358  Other / Off-topic / Re: Pattaya on: August 28, 2011, 05:48:56 PM
the debate is about the location being a sex tourist destination with a world wide reputation and attaching bitcoin's image to it

If that was true (and it's also a straw man btw), can you point me to where those organizations that have had conferences in Pattaya has had a sex tourist destination image attached to their reputation?

I'll start by claiming you won't be able to.



edit: Ah, I did remember correctly. You were indeed one of the persons who claimed Amsterdam was a bad choice due to it "being known for weed".

So a city known for old men on vacation having sex with young girls/boys and another city known for weed.
That is really setting a high standard for bitcoin convention places.

That just strikes me as sad. What group of people would decide those are the best two places to hold conferences?
What does that say about them and the people they are hoping to attend via those city attractions?

That's what ignorance looks like.

As for Amsterdam, by itself it is a pretty darn good choice
359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Help me liberate bitcoins from my Android Phone on: August 28, 2011, 05:42:54 PM
I would copy the address and send it to my pc and try to send some bitcoins to the phone it would say it was invalid.  A few got lost.

What said what was invalid? It should be impossible for coins to get lost this way. However, you might have a few transactions that will either never be sent (but the coins won't get lost) or at least take a very long time.
 
360  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New coins from old backup wallet.dat what gives? on: August 28, 2011, 05:41:08 PM
This "-rescan" thing is awful

Absolutely agree. What it does is "verify that what my wallet thinks is actually true" by going through the transaction blockchain.

This was NOT an old old wallet.. just a few hours prior to spending 25 btc

"Old" = not the up to date one.

I think you'll find it easier if you use the keyring+vaults metaphore instead (since that's what it is). Your wallet never "contains" bitcoins.
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