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341  Economy / Economics / Re: Something has to be wasted on: July 27, 2011, 07:17:41 PM
Free market competition is wasteful by definition because effective competition always requires some duplication of work before the winner emerges and specialization can occur.

It's less wasteful than central planning in most cases, but it's still wasteful.
 
342  Economy / Economics / Re: Countries that followed the Austrian School to Prosperity on: July 27, 2011, 06:46:37 PM
Austria, duh! 

10th richest country in the world per capita.  Whether that's a result of the former finance minister's Karl Heinz Grasser's policies is debatable though.

Grasser is a self-proclaimed Austrian (one of the few Austrians who actually come from Austria!)
343  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Paypal sperrt Shops mit kubanischen Artikeln on: July 27, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Wie war das nochmal, "den Händlern ist es egal ob Bitcoin dezentralisiert ist oder nicht"?

Dieses Beispiel zeigt doch dass ein Händler durchaus Interesse daran haben sollte, ein dezentralisiertes, unabhaengiges Zahlungsmittel zu verwenden.  Sonst ist er der Willkuer des Zahlungsmittelbetreibers volkommen ausgeliefert!
344  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Suche ca. 10 BTCs on: July 27, 2011, 03:31:35 PM
dann schlag mir doch eine bessere methode vor.
überweisung kommt für mich leider nicht in frage.
Wenn sich eben keiner findet, dann ist es so.

Ich verkaufe dir gerne 10 BTC fuer Paypal.  Unter der Bedingung dass du die BTC erst 6 Monate nach der Paypal-Ueberweisung bekommst. Solange dauert es naemlich bei Paypal, bis das Geld dass ich bekomme wirklich mir gehoert!

Wenn überweisung nicht in Frage kommt, dann schlage ich vor: Cash per Brief (langsam) oder Western Union (teuer).

Siehe:

https://www.nanaimogold.com/buy.php
345  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mention in CNN on: July 18, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
First NPR, now CNN. For some reason, it seems the more exposed we are, the lower price we are headed to

Exposure was bigger in May and June than this month.

In fact, there is a good correlation between Bitcoin popularity and price, as evidenced by google trends and alexa rankings.
346  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Dollar maybe shit aug 2nd GO BITCOIN watch video on: July 18, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
The United States MUST go bankrupt eventually

I don't think it must.  The US has one of the lowest tax rates of all developed countries. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP

If the US increased general taxation from 25% of GPD to approx 50% of GPD, then it could pay back its public debt in less than 3 years.

The debt problem in the US is political more than economic.
347  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Hypothetical] What if Bitcoin were to restart tomorrow? on: July 15, 2011, 10:51:04 AM
A restart would not result in a more equal distribution of wealth. We would see the same approximate Pareto distribution.

Except that this time, the richest bitcoiners would not be geeky early adopters but City Boys from Wall Street and Canary Wharf who can afford to lose $1 M on a high risk investment.

What difference does it make?
348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 08:17:18 PM
In principle I agree with you, I just think that your scale is not practicable.  Democratic government is a necessary evil, because without it, the stronger members of society start bullying the weaker members of society until a mafia emerges that doesn't give a shit about the non-aggression principle.

I would love to be proven wrong though...


Democratic government is the stronger members of society bullying the weak.

Look at the US fight over Gay marriage. Because they're in the minority, they are denied the right to sign a contract!

So they move to states that are gay-friendly like California and form gay colonies, thus taking away tax dollars and brainpower from gay-unfriendly states.  (statistically, gays are more wealthy and industrious than non-gays).  

That is an example of competitive government, though an imperfect one.

The question is: Would gays be better off in an anarchy where the majority is homophobic? I seriously doubt it. An anarchy has no "bill of rights".  They would be marginalized and ostracized by the major Personal Defense Agencies to the point of being unable to function in society ... until they congregate in a gay colony somewhere far away and form their own Personal Defense Agency.  

Either way, they are still forced to move.
349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 07:56:11 PM

Another problem with this is, if a doctor or an airplane maker screws up, I can abandon them and go for a replacement immediately. With politicians I'm pretty much stuck until the ignorant masses change their minds.

That's why I'm a believer in highly federated, localized "competitive government".  

So am I. We only differ in scale.

In principle I agree with you, I just think that your scale is not practicable.  Democratic government is a necessary evil, because without it, the stronger members of society start bullying the weaker members of society until a mafia emerges that doesn't give a shit about the non-aggression principle.

I would love to be proven wrong though...
350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 07:37:20 PM

Another problem with this is, if a doctor or an airplane maker screws up, I can abandon them and go for a replacement immediately. With politicians I'm pretty much stuck until the ignorant masses change their minds.

That's why I'm a believer in highly federated, localized "competitive government".  

I agree that democracy fails when it becomes too large and too centralized.
351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: myrkul link=topic=26435.msg363558#msg363558
Here's the flaw in your argument: If people can not be trusted to govern themselves, then how can they be trusted to choose good governors?

If people can not be trusted to build airplanes that won't fall out of the sky, then how can they be trusted to choose good airplane manufacturers?
352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 07:19:27 PM
How can you grant someone the right to do something that you don't have the right to do yourself?

Actually, you are not granting a person the right to do something that you don't have the right to do yourself.  

You are surrendering some of your rights to an abstract entity called democratic government , and you are only surrendering them under the condition that every other person living under this governments also surrenders their rights.

Even the leaders working for that government have surrendered their rights just like you. They are not privileged as individuals. They cannot exert power arbitrarily. They can only do so as a collective.
353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: So, let's say this is a matter of faith... on: July 14, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
If humans can't govern themselves then what hope do they have to govern others?

If doctors can't treat themselves then what hope to they have to treat others?

If (most) humans can't build passenger aircraft what hope to they have to let others build aircraft for them?

see the flaw?

Politicians are supposed to be representatives of the people and they are supposed to be competent and informed enough to make decisions about public goods that the average joe is too ignorant and incompetent to make.  Not saying that this is always true in practice though...
354  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Two points about the mining algorithm on: July 13, 2011, 03:55:28 PM
Nothing that is 100% predictable creates a shock to the market.

355  Economy / Economics / Re: Ayn Rand quote on: July 13, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
All extremists are basically egomaniacs, I can't stand the fuckers.

Everyone is an extremist from somebody's point of view.
356  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Loans and Lending; The Weakness in The Bitcoin Economy on: July 13, 2011, 09:36:24 AM
I don't think bitcoin is incompatible with loans.

Once bitcoin matures reaches a stable user base, the rate of deflation will correspond roughly to the rate of global economic growth.

Say for the sake of argument that this is 5%. (There will be fluctuations above and below this mean, but lenders and borrowers can hedge against those).

Say for the sake of argument that the rate of inflation of fiat currency is 3%.

Say that a lender is prepared to lend at a real interest rate of 10%.  Then he could either offer a bitcoin loan at a nominal interest rate of 5% or of fiat loan at a nominal interest rate of 13%.  Competition will push towards a market equilibrium with this 7% points difference between fiat and bitcoin interest rates.  Then it makes no difference what currency you lend in, you are getting the same real interest rate for both.

The only thing that would not be viable would be lending bitcoins with a real interest rate below 5%, because you can make more money by just sitting on your bitcoins.  But that would not be viable with fiat money either.  Why would anyone lend for a real interest rate below 5%, if they can get 5% returns simply by investing in the  global economy?
357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 07, 2011, 03:12:32 PM
I think that you guys are really overreacting.  It's as likely as not, that this lawyer trademarked Bitcoin in defense of the bitcoin community, before anyone else with ill intent did so. 

No he didn't. His intentions are perfectly clear from the snooty response he posted.
358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 07, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Can a moderator please delete the teenager " assassination market"  posts? 

I fully agree.  This is perceived as an "official" forum. We should maket it clear that the vast majority of the bitcoin community utterly condemns the initiation of violence.

What is needed is an ostracism market.   

If being an asshole (even if technically legal) hurt people's and corporations' reputation more it would also hurt their business.  Then they would think twice about being assholes.
359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POOLS under DDOS ATTACKS on: July 07, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
Pool attacks are a good thing because they increase "effective difficulty".  Cheesy
360  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gold has security issues too on: July 07, 2011, 09:18:27 AM
Gold has a lousy security track record.  It's supposed to be crisis-proof but during wars and economic collapses gold usually gets looted, confiscated, burgled, extorted, lost, and left behind on a massive scale.

What matters is that people perceive gold as secure though, even though in practice it isn't.
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