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3401  Economy / Lending / Re: need 0.02 loan no collateral on: April 08, 2015, 08:09:02 AM
I wouldn't trust the fact that he signed a message agreeing to have the signature campaign payout address changed as that is not something that you can necessarily force upon a campaign manager. Especially considering that the terms of his campaign say that payment must be made to a bit-x address, and that the address must be listed in the 'other' field in your profile

#1: I sad him to change the BIT-X address in "Other contact info" field and if he remove it after he receive loan, he may get negative trust resulting in a prevention of account sale(in the 4 day period).
#2: I have done this earlier.

i guess the salary he is saying is from his real life work and not from the bitx campaign

I didn't refer BIT-X payment as salary. It might be but I think as he mentioned about currency conversion, it is obviously fiat salary.
3402  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: April 08, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
What about these people that lost in legit sites like amhash and gaw? Well, gaw is not very legit, but at least it is a registered company with public owners (going to jail soontm) and it is rated quite good in Puppet list having in mind how scammy they are.

Investing in GAW was warned by community especially their ponzi coin.

I don't blame AMHash completely assuming it wasn't a planned theft. Anyway, there is risk in everything and I didn't only tell about ponzi sites. I used "most" but I understand it can does have a second meaning.
3403  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best bitcoin wallet on: April 08, 2015, 07:59:05 AM
Love Coinbase so much. The cool thing about an online wallet is that I have access to my BTC wherever I am in the world without any hassle. If I were to carry my wallet.dat file on a pendrive with me, I would have to install the qt on a public computer (unless I bring my laptop with me everywhere which is cumbersome) every time I wanna use my BTC which is risky.

Cool thing about online wallet is you don't own Bitcoins by definition and that means, the service provider can take it whenever they like. It is like giving keys to your bank to others and tell them to unlock and take money when you want it. I think nobody does this.

Can't you use a paper wallet + mobile wallet or only mobile wallet?
3404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 08, 2015, 07:55:39 AM
The thing is.. You havent asked back.
You only reffere to the islamic books and psychos who want to see islam as the master religion.

Islam is a religion of war and suffering.
There is muslims who kill other people that arent muslim just for that reason..
And they are even dump enought to start fighting with themselfs because they dont know how to read the quran.

So these aren't questions, right? Hmm...

@Spendulus: See? You gave some news. Have you looked more about it? Do you know whether it was "really" a muslim who did the attack? How did you know they were muslims? Did you talk with attackers? Did you witness it? Isn't it obvious? Media influences you.
3405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
The only thing you want me to read is the Quran or any other book that is written by the same psycho that wrote the Quran.
If you can only reffere to islamic "proofs" and islamic sources, then I cant seem to find a reason to discuss with you since you are brain washed with that shit.

My friend, did I told you to read Qur'an? Did I tols you to read Islamic books? I told you to refer to historical books. There many libraries, go through one of them. There is proof of existence as the Masjid is still there and burial place of Cheraman Perumal is still can be seenin Oman. Smiley
3406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 07:51:20 AM
So, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard once before that originally the Qu'ran was written in a sort of trance (being transcribed by followers of the prophet) as Mohammed meditated in a cave. I heard that these original copies were written without dots (from Wikipedia 'Arabic language': "These dots are an integral part of a letter, since they distinguish between letters that represent different sounds."): I heard that this was the case with the Qu'ran and originally there were 14 different versions of the holy book - each with very different meanings. At some point in history someone or some people decided to burn all but 1 of these interpretations. Does anyone know about this or care to inform me better? Just interested in this part of history not really have an opinion about it either way.

There were only 1 "real" version of Qur'an. Other versions are false which were by non-arabs who converted to Islam.

After the death of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), and during the time of the Caliphs, hundreds of thousands of non-Arabs converted to Islam.  Consequently, the Quran began to be recited and written in various different dialects and scripts.  One of Prophet Mohammad’s companions, and Uthman’s friend Hudhaifah, whilst on a journey noticed that there were many different recitations of Quran throughout the Muslim Empire.  Hudhaifah suggested to Uthman that there be an official version written in the style used in Medina.

Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) knew the Quran by heart and had intimate knowledge of the context and circumstances relating to each verse.  The Quran had been gathered during the time of Abu Bakr and was in the safekeeping of Prophet Muhammad’s wife Hafsah.

Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) took possession of the originals and ordered some of the most trusted companions to make careful copies.  He then ordered all other unofficial copies to be burned or otherwise destroyed.  Five official copies were sent to the greatest cities of the Muslim Caliphate. Original copies exist to this day in Tashkent, Uzbekistan and the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul, Turkey.
3407  Other / New forum software / Re: Fetching posts without reloading page! on: April 08, 2015, 07:43:21 AM
It sounds like an unnecessary waste of bandwidth to me. People could have their tabs open without actually looking at them and you would still be using up the forum's bandwidth. That is, if it is done automatically. If it is done manually then, yeah, it would be a nice feature to have to save a second or two per load, but nothing crucial.

Yes, it is done manually. I don't like automation in this feature.

=snip=
A refresh button or similar, so new posts will be fetched and can be seen without reloading.
=snip=
3408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 08, 2015, 07:41:53 AM
@Spendulus: See? You gave some news. Have you looked more about it? Do you know whether it was "really" a muslim who did the attack? How did you know they were muslims? Did you talk with attackers? Did you witness it? Isn't it obvious? Media influences you.

Stop bitching about the fucking media all the time.
Not everyone is getting their info from mainstream media.

There is plenty of places to get your information without it has been influenced by large corperations.

You ask concrete evidence from us, when we ask back it is "bitching". Undecided
3409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 07:38:55 AM
=snip=

And what backs up this story?
Anything that is scientificly prooven?

There are books regarding history, you may want to take a look. You can also come and visit the Masjid it you don't believe me. You can visit the burial place of Chraman Perumal also. Read more please...
3410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 07:35:18 AM
You do realize what those rings around saturn is... Right?

We Muslims also go to school, college and we do study. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Saturn Smiley

Mohammed(SBUH) did rape a 9 year old.

You are talking about 'Aisha. Please read more and post. I kindly request you not to post without researching, this might also be a media intlunce, i.e. you got from somewhere and you posted here. Smiley
3411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 07:31:58 AM
Regarding splitting of the moon:

I don't think splitting it moons is scientifically proven and as a result, what I say maybe hard to believe. I am not quoting verses if Qur'an ir Hadiths. However, history maybe able to convince you. Smiley

Legend of a king abdicating his throne to vindicate his certitude is a glorious chapter in any history. There are a number of regional and tribal variations on the tradition of Cheraman Perumal, his abdication of throne to convert to Islam and subsequent pilgrimage to Mecca. The most accepted and popular version is as follows.

Cheraman Perumal, the reigning King of Kerala, with Kodungallur as its capital, once witnessed of the new moon being split into two halves at the horizon. His Court astrologers could not give him a satisfactory explanation. Later when a group of Arab traders on their way to Ceylon met the Perumal, he mentioned about his dream. They explained that this could probably be the miracle Prophet performed at Arabia (Holy Qur’an-54:1-5).

This explanation convinced him and he decided to embrace Islam. His decision to leave for Mecca was kept a secret. He divided his land and assigned various territories to local chieftains to ensure smooth governance. He then left for Mecca, met the prophet and embraced Islam. He spent some years there and while returning home, fell ill and died at Dhufar in Oman. Before his death, he wrote letters to local rulers of Malabar and handed them to his friends. Later, when Malik Bin Dinar and his companions reached Kodungallur, the letters were handed over to the ruling chieftains. They were given permission to construct mosques in different places. The first mosque in India was thus constructed at Kodungallur and Malik Bin Dinar himself was the first Ghazi of this "Cheraman Masjid". After a while he appointed his relative Habib Bin Malik as the Ghazi at Cheraman Masjid and traveled across the length and breadth of Kerala. He established different Mosques in different parts of Kerala. Later, he left for Arabia where he died. It is believed that the old tombs now at Cheraman Mosque belong to Habib Bin Malik and his wife Khumarriah.




Chraman Masjid is the first Masjid in India which was built dutung the lifetime of Muhammad(PBUH). This Masjid is about 15.2 km from my home.

Kerala Tourism Website: https://www.keralatourism.org/muziris/cheraman-juma-masjid.php
Official Website: http://www.cheramanmosque.com/

Hope this helps.
3412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Miracles of Quran on: April 08, 2015, 06:59:12 AM
=snip=
Whats next.. Saturns rings are the tears of the girls Mohammed raped?

Muhammad(PBUH) didn't rape anyone. How can a tear be rings? Also AFAIK gravitational force pull things down not up.
3413  Economy / Lending / Re: need 0.02 loan no collateral on: April 08, 2015, 06:52:34 AM
You will get payment from BIT-X soon. So is there need for a loan now?

If you can sign below message with an address you posted, I may provide you.

Code:
Date: 08/04/2015, Wednesday. I, dznuts85 is asking for a loan of 0.02 BTC. My signature campaign payout address will be changed to Muhammed Zakir's address and also if I didn't repay the loan, the payment will be taken by Muhammed Zakir.

Sign and post if you agree above terms. Changing payout address to yours after receiving loan is breaking the contract and you might get negative feedback.

Edit:

14hrs from now.. maybe you can cancell my loan request as if i cant exchange it to fiat later, and it will be my salary day tomorrow Smiley

thanks mate! Smiley

^^^ I guess you don't need it.
3414  Economy / Lending / Re: ★[No Collateral]★[No Interest]★ Offering Micro-Loans To Everyone! on: April 08, 2015, 06:45:02 AM
Loan Amount : BTC0.05
Reason           : Capital for a small exchange
BTC Address  : 14yuLqjZNYWYoQ7cwf96EQcQMf8UZijby6
Term Length  : 7d
1TarasQyKwPJRuod6qwh7n8BjMHC49ZNY
Playing with formatting  Smiley
[1] [2] [3]
Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello! Looking to borrow .05 to be returned on 14 April 2015. Address for loan: 14yuLqjZNYWYoQ7cwf96EQcQMf8UZijby6
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1TarasQyKwPJRuod6qwh7n8BjMHC49ZNY
Gy84qlFWxFNFMuLboFWRTzGgsh8vatbkzGaUDG9vnqJjMQJ9niI3TY3Rhfe76OKUVPzdEu2xlS58FpOND4LDKHM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Can you notify me of approval/denial before sending? This is my first time asking for a loan. Smiley

Both payment and PM sent! Even though it is your first time, you posted all the things needed. Most people, even who have asked loan earlier, won't do so.

TXID: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/1742693e073eafe16cf5412d75d8b76215fb00ddbea7589884c57b85a4062177
3415  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin address. on: April 08, 2015, 06:28:19 AM
I wouldn't recommend xapo.com - they require you to provide an ID number.

They don't ask ID for storing Bitcoins. If you do anything fiat related, ID will be asked. But as we don't have control over private keys and/or they don't provide some level of protection of lose, I depreciate using Xapo and Coinbase* and other such wallets.

* Coinbase introduced sort of paper wallet but I don't think it is secure to generate using the website. It is highly recommended to use BitAddress.org or Vanitygen or PC wallets to generate addresses.
3416  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cloud Mining - Please help a newbie on: April 08, 2015, 06:21:39 AM
I have thought about investing in cloud mining. I haven't made a decision yet though...

From what I've read on this forum it looks like it was a good decision not to make a decision. Everybody is just mad at all the scams and talking more about how to get their money back not how to make some more. Risky times..

Nope. Most people who lost their BTC were warned by community that the place they are going to invest is Ponzi(eg:- PBMining). They want "rich-quick". They didn't observe it closely. They looked from a far place and saw that the road is straight and well furnished. But they were wrong.

 There are people who got profit by investing, however, in these times, where value is low, you won't get much profit.
3417  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 08, 2015, 06:07:56 AM
@Spendulus: See? You gave some news. Have you looked more about it? Do you know whether it was "really" a muslim who did the attack? How did you know they were muslims? Did you talk with attackers? Did you witness it? Isn't it obvious? Media influences you.
3418  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [NOW AVAILABLE] BTChip / Ledger HW1 : Bitcoin Hardware Wallet in a USB smartcard on: April 08, 2015, 05:55:40 AM
@btchip I got an hw1 in the mail. Tried everything and can't get it to work. You prefer troubleshooting here or by email or irc? (or are you even the right person to contact?)

Hi! I maybe able to help you. Can you give more details please?

• Which wallet are you trying to use with HW. 1?
• Which OS?

I suggest you to use Electrum 2.0 or Multibit beta wallet or GreenAddress. You may also use BTChip API.
3419  Economy / Services / Re: ===►[Sr. Member]★Shdvb Bitcoin/Litecoin Escrow Service★[Free of Charge]===► on: April 07, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
Are you also accept physical collateral and digital goods as well ?

*Digital goods ( games account, bitcointalk account , etc)
* physical (laptop, gadget, etc )

I dont do any account escrow,they have original owner IP,they can recover by talking to game distributor anyway.

for physical things is possible,but how could I hold it since its on interent? I live in China,talk to me on live chat if you could explain.

You can escrow physical goods if the person who have is from China. You will have to take some potential risks. In most cases, physical goods are escrowed if it is used as collateral for loans. For sales, escrowing Bitcoin/Altcoin is sufficient.
3420  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 07, 2015, 11:31:45 PM
If it isn't true, this thread wouldn't exist.
Please do not answer with illogic. 

It is you that profess knowledge of what is in other peoples' minds, how they are influence by media and so forth.

When you never asked even if they watch media before expressing such certainty.

Indeed, this level of certainty based on insufficient facts in a practical problem, which tells us that a person has errors in judgement.

May I ask you who did it?

• Read the title.
• Read this thread.
• Check the photos I posted again.

It is clear it is media that influence than real "thinking". If you think, how can you say Islam is wrong when people who is claimed to be muslims by medias do wrong this? Who is being illogical here?

Images I posted:

This is the truth and how you guys see us. Undecided


















































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