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3441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ]: Boxing - Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev on: October 22, 2020, 10:40:21 AM


“I would never, under any circumstances, allow myself to show disrespect to another human being on racial, ethnic or religious grounds. That’s what I’ve been teaching my little nephews all the time. Each of us is born on this earth with equal rights, and skin color is completely irrelevant.

“I can’t believe how my words about Anthony Joshua have been taken out of context. It never even occurred to me to discredit another sportsman because of the color of his skin! Amongst my friends there are people of different races and ethnicities. They are all great and worthy people, as well as my very good, long-standing friends whom I respect and love.”


He already corrected it many people just want to sell the fight and make it personal but if there are no videos circulating and he made a correction already, he do not want people to perceive him as a racial guy and, I don't want to sell the fight this way also, honestly the fight is not interesting but it should not be promoted this way to generate more interest.

Watch this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE05akv_k08.. it's an old video but this tells the reputation of Pulev as a person.
He is so careless doing or saying what he thinks without thinking of the consequences.
3442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Inoue vs. Moloney - October 31 on: October 22, 2020, 10:16:30 AM
Casimero's name will always be attached to Inoue, he should give this dude a chance to fight him, not ducking him as that would not help his future if he really is a real monster. We fans deserve the see the best and what we like is Inoue vs Casimero not this boxers that we certainly know can easily be beaten by Inoue.

Yes, upset happened, but I don't think we will see it again here, his opponent is not a champion and this is not unification fight.
Supposedly, their fight scheduled last April but since pandemic begin, they cancelled it and for me they should reschedule the fight of these two boxer and it should happen this year despite of the pandemic since we are slowly getting back and they throw strong worlds to each other that can intensify the fight between Inoue and Casimero. Moloney is not enough to ruin the records of Inoue, he's indeed a monster that is hard to beat but let's see on Halloween, real monster shall prevail.
The promoter said the fight was cancelled, not rescheduled so we will not likely see it soon as both fighters are looking for another fighters to fight at the moment, the awaited fight of both monsters will not happen during the pandemic time, you know, promoter would not allow that.
3443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Inoue vs. Moloney - October 31 on: October 21, 2020, 11:21:19 PM
Casimero's name will always be attached to Inoue, he should give this dude a chance to fight him, not ducking him as that would not help his future if he really is a real monster. We fans deserve the see the best and what we like is Inoue vs Casimero not this boxers that we certainly know can easily be beaten by Inoue.

Yes, upset happened, but I don't think we will see it again here, his opponent is not a champion and this is not unification fight.
3444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! on: October 21, 2020, 10:43:14 PM
Wilder's apparently taken a vow of silence. He has not been heard of in a long time. Fury and his promoters say they no longer have any obligation to have the trilogy fight and are now looking for a new opponent to prepare for him for facing Anthony Joshua next year. I don't think Wilder's team will put up a legal fight to try and force the rematch to happen next. Wilder is still a top 3 heavyweight so his chance will come up again.

I think the cancellation of the third fight would be on Wilder's advantage because he need to but some time to bring back the confidence in him as he was battered on their last fight. AFAIK, the rematch clause has expiration so i don't think the camp of Wilder will take a legal action here.

Definitely it will be a big advantage for Wilder so that finally he can reset his mind first and have some confidence before facing Fury again in this trilogy. Yes there is a stipulation that a rematch clause could end, but the thing is that when they outline it prior, there's no pandemic or something, so again, maybe the next time that those boxing lawyers or promoted a rematch clause, maybe they have to think about this kind of scenario.

That information was only coming from Fury's side, we would like to hear the side of Wilder's here as he was the one demanding for a rematch after he lose and I think he would not allow that to happen as he want's avenge his loses and get that belt.
3445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Mike Tyson vs Roy Jones Junior [PPV on Nov. 28] on: October 21, 2020, 10:17:43 PM
Thanks for the update, I was wondering if a 2 minute game would make a huge difference for both fighters? but anyway as long as I've seen them on the ring again that's fine. Let's just hope this would not result to any serious damage to both fighters since they will not use a protective gear.
I've read that kind of concern many times in this thread, but I believe they will be alright, they themselves understand that they are not fighting for belt, this is just an exhibition fight, people wants to see them still healthy after the fight while expecting some kind of entertainment too.

Just trust them, they know what they are doing, they've been in the business for many years.

Good point and for sure they are being prepared by their respective doctors and training camps. They are not young in age but the desire to bring entertainment and those old glory days.

We will see those old blow, those old power punch to be thrown, as it can't be controlled knowing that this two boxers are really good at it.

But at the end of the day, the fight mostly for bringing entertainment and not to push
the K.O they are aware that both fighters needs to stay being healthy after this fight
and enjoy what would be the compensation that will be raised for both of them.

I tend to forget anymore when this fight will happen, I suggest OP to update the date of the fight in the thread title so it will remind us, September 12 has already passed, it should be a new date which is November 28, 2020.  Smiley

https://www.sportbible.com/boxing/boxing-news-legends-reactions-mike-tyson-is-a-shredded-beast-at-54-years-old-20201019
3446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 21, 2020, 09:41:12 PM
Does anybody have some thoughts if the current Lakers roster will undergo trades or on when LeBron might retire? What teams do you think would rise to the occasion to complete their line-ups?
Golden State Warriors is the team that everyone will look in for the next season.

Just as they say, they will "come back stronger". Actually, it could be any other team where these champs would probably be traded. No team is weak for me but only underrated.

I think most teams are going to be interested next season.

I'm actually hoping for Curry to at least still have his game back since some point guards that comes out of injury really messes up their play style. Some guards at first were really aggressive but suddenly changed because of their injuries. Although for Curry, his shot is the most important thing about his play style and that might carry their team into another playoffs.

Lets hope that it wont happen to him and would able to showcase his 3 point shooting and ball handling skills on next season.
There are indeed players who do really get hesitated to give out their best plays once they had experienced some injuries.
This is somewhat an psychological issue since you do know that your body had past injuries then you will surely be minding
to be careful into your next games to avoid such scenario again.

GSW is a strong team specially if their star players would step in their foot to the court once again.

This is not the first time Curry was injured, he always come back so expect this one would be easy for him considering the injury wasn't really too serious compared to Thompson's injury, we will certainly see the same Curry here with a different set of teammates.

They will be great, trust me, trust the GSW if you are a fan.
3447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! on: October 21, 2020, 09:23:32 PM
That's a very good point, they probably need a big payday prior to their retirement, you know life after boxing is different as they have to work outside boxing or manage their business, that is provided they have good savings or have invested from what they earn during their boxing career.

I guess whoever lose this fight might struggle to find a big fight if he still want to continue fighting, so it's a big fight for both it needs to be big that would satisfy their wallets.


This is maybe the reason why they moved the fight date and hoping that they will get money from the gate, if in case they will be allowed to accept live audience. That's another revenue for the match. Boxing is really not a forever career. At some point, the boxer needs to stop and just live on whatever he made during his boxing career. They need to be smart, otherwise, they will be like those poor boxers that can't even support themselves.

Of course this is not only limited to the  boxers, but most especially the promoters as well as they are the one who are risking money for this fight and therefore they need to ensure that they'll be a profit after the fight, in short, it's just all about the money as that's what business is for.
3448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 20, 2020, 10:31:14 PM
Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
They have to maintain the same bubble.

While most are out of the bubble, the NBA management could think of something new. A new setup which will be a win-win for them but nothing more, nothing less, the bubble setup was greatly made and appreciated by most of the fans.

I guess more money will come in eventually for the next season.

It's hard to expect that more money will come in the bubble set up when this is the reality.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/report-nba-could-lose-nearly-500-million-ticket-revenue-without-games

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For the NBA and its teams, financial losses will be front of mind. In a recent article, NBC Sports NBA Insider Tom Haberstroh estimated that nearly $500 million could be lost in ticket revenue without fans in attendance for the final stretch of the season. That estimate came from a "high-ranking team official" before the season was suspended.

The amount they are talking is a huge amount, that's the amount of money NBA has lost without a crowd.
3449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 20, 2020, 10:04:01 PM
You understand it, I understand it, and other people who have experience playing in casinos also understand it. However, there are also newcomers who want to try playing in an online casino, they often pay attention primarily to the size of bonuses and other gifts. I doubt that many of the newcomers immediately look for casino reviews on the Internet. In this case, it will be good if at least someone reads the rules regarding the withdrawal of money and bonuses.
Still it is fair to wonder what are they thinking when they do this? It has been reported that since the pandemic started the use of online banking has gone up and as you may guess the number of scams related to this have gone up as well, why people are not on their guard when it comes to their money? Why they keep trusting  the first option they find without making any research? And this is even more troubling in this market in which we know there are many scams and once you lose your money for the most part it is very difficult to get it back.

Online space is the new playground for scamers and people can be very naive. Everything where money is involved is attractive for scam and gambling isn't exception.
When players see the offer that it's too good to be true a very small percentage of them will actually do some research or background check. So if you are not careful enough you can easily lose money even before you start to gamble.

I think gamblers are more smarter than investors on crowd sale, there's plenty of bonuses but they are aware of the scams in the crypto space, as the space itself is a high risk if you know enough what's happening here. Some may fall to this trick but I believe only few of the total number of gamblers who love to enjoy gambling and look for bonuses at the same time.
3450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 20, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
If I were to suggest to the commissioner, I would set the NBA season on January, considering the players who stayed long in the bubble, they have missed their love ones in their homes. I don't know what will be the next NBA set-up, but I guess there will be another restrictions for the players to go outside, ot It would also be in the bubble. So, I guess those players deserves to be with their family in Christmas.
Though I'm excited for the next season, because for sure there will be a lot of changes in roster. Can't wait to see who's building superteams, as the Lakers are on the verge of achieving a big 3.

Yes, January will be the best time to start.
Let them have a good rest first and enjoy whatever they missed.

There will be no problem with time management since they will all be in the same venue unlike before that requires flights from East to West and even going to another country like Canada.
Now, teams can play every other day without feeling the restless trip. Just like what they did these playoffs.

Can the NBA still continue with the same set up like the Bubble in case there's still no vaccine? I think that would still be expensive while they are not anymore making the usual income, I'm just curious as well on how long they'll last with the current situation.
3451  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 Pitibet.io ⭐ SPORTS BETTING | WEEKLY PROMOTIONS ⚽🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: October 16, 2020, 01:14:27 PM
NO KYC, I hope this would not be a problem in the future, you guys can attract a lot of gamblers with the "NO KYC" thing as that's what gamblers really like in a sportsbook. I haven't check out the site yet, maybe after reading the feedback, I will experience on my own.
No KYC now but can have KYC in the future. If KYC will be activated in the future, I hope the team will give people enough time to withdraw money if they don't want to do complete KYC.

They can remove KYC but Terms of condition should be on the casino. It is weird if the casino removes all Terms of conditions.
That's what I'm saying as I have seen some sites saying that they don't require KYC but later on they do on selective accounts, that's just unfair, sites have to be clear with their rules and let people be aware of any changes as there are still a lot of gambling sites that does not really require a KYC documents.


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I tried to check the games, check in https://pitibet.io/sportsbook/.. but can't check the games when you are not log in, it's different from the sportsbook I've been playing as I can check even if I don't log in.
That's it. View odds rate without account creation and login can help the sportsbook because if people see it and feel interested in odds on Pitibet.io, they might create account and begin to bet.

Maybe it's their technique for people to really create an account before they can check the odds, but if it is, I would say it's a bad technique.
3452  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 Pitibet.io ⭐ SPORTS BETTING | WEEKLY PROMOTIONS ⚽🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 on: October 16, 2020, 12:25:11 PM
NO KYC, I hope this would not be a problem in the future, you guys can attract a lot of gamblers with the "NO KYC" thing as that's what gamblers really like in a sportsbook. I haven't check out the site yet, maybe after reading the feedback, I will experience on my own.

I suggest as new in the forum, run more promotions so you'll gain the trust of the people here, good luck.

I tried to check the games, check in https://pitibet.io/sportsbook/.. but can't check the games when you are not log in, it's different from the sportsbook I've been playing as I can check even if I don't log in.
3453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 16, 2020, 12:00:20 PM
Lol, there's 2/5 who voted for no, wow.. I thought it's just me but there's still one.

Not totally that I'm not reading, sometimes I read but not all the sites I am playing, and sometimes I read when I am already gambling in the site for quite a while, not unlike other gamblers where they really follow the rules, read the TOS and then click the sign up, some people like me are just lazy, I call it small stuff and I also make sure I can afford to lose my money in any way, lock it and I won't complain if I know it already violated the TOS.
3454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 16, 2020, 11:45:05 AM
Durant had a championship, right after he joined the GSW, Lebron had the same, so Giannis has to think of that as well.

If I would rank Lebron, AD, and Giannis, I will put Giannis in the last position.
The Greek Freak gives a show in the regular season but can't do it in the playoffs, that's what separates him from the two.

Durant went in the NBA finals during his time with OKC, so did Lebron during his time with the Cavaliers (before he transfer), Giannis did not achieve that level of success.

agree that Giannis did not proved his value in the play-off, during season teams are relaxed and it is easier to have great stats, if you are good, but great players show themselves in the play-off, when it is all-in, you can see many times that top teams from regular season do not reach finals in the end
it is a long season, and it is important to qualify for the play-off, but you do not have to do your best in regular season, i think that defence play starts with play-off, in regular season, most teams are playing attack only
He won't learn with the same squad, so it's better for him to pair with a fellow star and see if there's an improvement, unfortunately that would mean leaving his current team for another team, and he can do that as there's a lot of team who is interested with him, actually people are already speculating he will play with the Heat or the Dallas Mavericks, these are great teams, imagine what will they become having Giannis.
Giannis + Luka + Porzingis ?  That would be surely a good team.I do agree that its better for Giannis to pair with other star and i agree that there would surely be an improvement but i wont be surprised if he
would decide to stay with the team. Heat or Dallas? It would be much better if he do chose Mavs and i do see a much better improvement and impact towards his career.He would need to make up
decisions if he wants to move further.About regular-season and playoffs performance then i do able to observe that too that majority on top ranks doesnt really able to sustain to go through finals.
That is not a super team I guess but they'll be a great contender in the NBA championship, neither Luka and Porzingis have won an MVP yet, unlike Wade and Curry where Lebron and Durant paired with to win a championship, still there's a balance in the NBA, so hopefully this will happen.
3455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting: how much knowledge is too much on: October 16, 2020, 09:51:08 AM
Sports betting is provably fair by itself - you can always verify the result by reading the news(if you missed the live stream of the event).

This should apply to sports-bettings that cannot change/control the outcome of matches/games bettors are betting on.
I think the provable fair we normally refer to is the feature found on betting sites to make the bets fair/fraud-proof.

I also believe as sportsbook doesn't advertise they are provably fair, what they advertise is they offer the best betting odds, while games like where there's a house edge, popular example is dice, they advertise that they are "provably fair", just for us to understand its difference.
3456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New Normal Game Setup - a success or a failure? on: October 16, 2020, 09:27:02 AM
The reason why so many sports are affected is because audience - the biggest profit source cannot be tested and ensured that they won't spread the virus if one is infected. I don't think playing was the problem but it took some time to understand how the process should go, that is virtual fans and quarantined players.

It's just impossible, we are talking of thousands of audience here, one of them will have the virus and those thousands are already at risk of getting infected, imagine how it will destroy our protocol if we allow that, we should understand, this pandemic is not forever but let's live on the current situation, follow the protocol and just appreciate what our favorite league has offered to us.
3457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 16, 2020, 09:09:08 AM
Durant had a championship, right after he joined the GSW, Lebron had the same, so Giannis has to think of that as well.

If I would rank Lebron, AD, and Giannis, I will put Giannis in the last position.
The Greek Freak gives a show in the regular season but can't do it in the playoffs, that's what separates him from the two.

Durant went in the NBA finals during his time with OKC, so did Lebron during his time with the Cavaliers (before he transfer), Giannis did not achieve that level of success.

agree that Giannis did not proved his value in the play-off, during season teams are relaxed and it is easier to have great stats, if you are good, but great players show themselves in the play-off, when it is all-in, you can see many times that top teams from regular season do not reach finals in the end
it is a long season, and it is important to qualify for the play-off, but you do not have to do your best in regular season, i think that defence play starts with play-off, in regular season, most teams are playing attack only
He won't learn with the same squad, so it's better for him to pair with a fellow star and see if there's an improvement, unfortunately that would mean leaving his current team for another team, and he can do that as there's a lot of team who is interested with him, actually people are already speculating he will play with the Heat or the Dallas Mavericks, these are great teams, imagine what will they become having Giannis.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-rumors-dallas-will-prioritize-giannis-antetokounmpo-pursuit-2021/
3458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 16, 2020, 07:56:59 AM
It is very interesting sportsbook site that offers a welcome bonus, usually very much in demand by many people, especially newbies.
And promotions that provide welcome bonuses have proven to be effective in attracting many users, especially the welcome bonuses
that are given in quite large numbers. But I suggest not choosing a sportsbook site based solely on the welcome bonus, because there
are other things that are more important than just chasing the welcome bonus. We must read the sportsbook site reviews, is it reliable
or not. And what is no less important is how the withdrawal process is, if smooth then the sportsbook site is suitable for use.

One factor is to provide encouraging bonuses to attract the attentions of possible gamblers to play along, the owner needs to allocate funds for this advertisement making sure that the gamblers can really dwell with it receiving the said rewards.

Though your point is valid, every gamblers needs to balance everything before dealing with those offered bonuses, it's important to know whether the casinos will pay them without any problem,
Casinos has to be outstanding in every aspect, not only in promotion but in all factor as that will determine the reputation of the site.
We have a lot of popular casinos in the forum, and they are still actively running a promotion, that is for simple reason, they don't want to lose their customers which provides them profit regularly. Without them, casinos won't survive as the expenses will be normal while the profit is none.


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This should not be neglected, the most important.


3459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: October 16, 2020, 07:35:04 AM
Durant had a championship, right after he joined the GSW, Lebron had the same, so Giannis has to think of that as well.

If I would rank Lebron, AD, and Giannis, I will put Giannis in the last position.
The Greek Freak gives a show in the regular season but can't do it in the playoffs, that's what separates him from the two.

Durant went in the NBA finals during his time with OKC, so did Lebron during his time with the Cavaliers (before he transfer), Giannis did not achieve that level of success.
3460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports Betting vs Real "Sports Feelings" on: October 15, 2020, 11:44:18 AM
But if we have to make a bet, we shouldn't bet with our hearts because our favorite doesn't always come out to be the winner.
Definitely, by experience I can say that it's really not gonna help us to win as most of the time that decision is wrong. Bookies knows most gamblers follows their heart so it's easy for them to manipulate the odds to attract public bets while knowing the other side has a better chance.

The public is following their hearts by betting on their favorite team, the smart money are going the other side, that's why majority loses in sports betting.
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