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3461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Top US Energy Company to Explore Bitcoin Mining on: July 07, 2022, 10:41:17 PM
I think it's great news. Not only it shows interest in Bitcoin mining, but it's also related to renewable energy, which is important to break the stereotype that Bitcoin mining is not environmentally friendly.

Yeah right...
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Almost all of Duke Energy's Midwest generation comes from coal, natural gas, or oil, while half of its Carolinas generation comes from its nuclear power plants.
They don't have even 10% production from renewables, again, production, they have the capacity but since solar works only 1/3 of the day, the production is way below the same capacity as good old coal.

It feels weird to me that they are exploring about customers and looking at demand,,, when a company these days wants to go into mining, there are no customers right? There are just investors.

They are looking for the golden goose..
What they're trying to find is miners who would consume just the excess energy and balance the grid, basically minimizing losses, but good luck finding somebody who would mine only when you have excess energy and shut down when you need to make power cuts.
Already miners are looking at ROI times of over a year when it comes to new gear even with power at 2kwh, who would take part in this plan when you could make back the investment in 5 years, or more precise, about two years after the gear starts breaking down  Grin

What these power companies need to do is stop this patching of a broken concept and start realizing that nuclear power, cheap and constant is the only solution, not expensive batteries, not renewables that have a bit of producing zero energy for days, not anything else.

3462  Economy / Economics / Re: The Russian Federation may be about to make a "Corralito" on: July 07, 2022, 10:20:04 PM
Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Or China, or Kazahstan if Putin starts pissing all the southern countries and Moscow will return to its glory from the times of the Golden Horde.
What he actually tried to say but his pride stopped him from saying is
- you want to see the Potemkin Russia, go to Moscow
- you want to see the reality of the poorest country in Europe, go to the southern regions of Volga and Urals, you will see poverty like in a 4th world country
Before the invasion of Crimea, when RT was actually telling the truth:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

But comrade, how is that even possible.
I thought sanctions would make you strong, invincible, and the greatest power in Duck Tales multiverse.
Just a few months ago you were bragging to me how the Russian chips are on par with western technology and look at your country, you're building the best cars in the world, with no shitty air conditioning, no useless traction control, no death traps like airbags, where are those problems?

I kept wondering why those sanctions are useless every time a Russian office gets a microphone they scream at the west to lift them or else Shocked


3463  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is trading really worth it? on: July 07, 2022, 10:04:00 PM
And how accurate have TA and charts predicted the situation we're now in?
Just an addition: My brother checks no crypto-charts. He prefers Forex and gold. Does the same logic apply there too? I honestly don't know what to say or whom to address to.

I don't know s8&^ about gold but forex is far more predictable than crypto, you have dates when statements are released, you have a lot of information about who is going to raise rates by how much, you know the economic context, you know the debt of a country, the status of their economy, if you're careful with leverage and you stick with small amounts you can make some $ but once you dive in too deep you're going to get recked like in crypto by something unexpected.

As for everyone saying how crypto trading is profitable due to knowledge and experience, crypto trading seems like that because in bullish seasons everything you would trade was going up, everyone was making money, some were making money trading shitcoins, and were happy with their strategy without realizing they would have made the same by just keeping the coins. When the bear season started, trading became not so attractive anymore, because this is where you would have to actually guess the price swings, and all the "knowledge" didn't help you once.
But just like gamblers who are sticking to the story of having a "system" so do crypto traders, they claim to have a model, but in reality, is just guessing work.



3464  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BITSTAMP exchange biased rule that chased users away on: July 07, 2022, 09:43:07 PM
Two years later and some are still surprised that some exchanges, even big ones have been charging this for years

And seems some have been improving their fees since I posted that, like Coindirect:

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In the case that a User’s Account has been suspended in terms of Section 3.1, and especially in cases of failure to adhere to EDD procedures, to the extent permissible by law Coindirect reserves the right to convert the Users digital currency into fiat, and to deduct an Inactivity Fee of up to 10% of the amount in your Wallet. Furthermore, where any Local Currency in your Fiat Currency Wallet is not used for a period exceeding 3 months, Coindirect may charge and obtain from the User, an Inactivity Fee of GBP2.00 per month ( or the equivalent in your Local Currency), which shall be collected from your Local Currency held in your Fiat Currency Wallet.

The others seem to have been keeping it around 5$ a month  Grin

I can't comment for the rest of the world but here in the US many banks have an inactivity fee / minimum use requirements on certain types of accounts.
Many of the crypto debit cards out there also have inactivity fees as do some other services.

Most banks have such a thing, and the card providers have them too, even gambling sites will close your account and if the remaining sum is below the minimum deposit required the amount will be lost, I know that from a mail I've got from Betfair saying my precious 2.5$ will be lost if I don't log in and place a bet in the next 3 months. As for exchanges, there are far more with this practice than you imagine.
3465  Economy / Economics / Re: The Russian Federation may be about to make a "Corralito" on: July 07, 2022, 10:18:50 AM
I agree with your statement. The United States is able to sell tens of trillions of USD worth of debt to foreign nations, at extremely low interest rates. I don't really understand this addiction towards United States treasury bonds, even from nations that are hostile towards the Americans, such as China and Russia.

Because every day rather than looking a the window, hearing the birds, trying to cheer yourself up and think positively you're eating propaganda with a shovel for breakfast and you let yourself be overcome with hate against something you actually don't have a clue about.
That's why you come with BS like Ukraine will lose half of its territory by May, that's why you come with stupid as fuck things like Europe freezing and Europeans driving horses when last year alone Germans bought more cars than the whole of India.  Cars (excluding bikes that some uses to inflate their numbers, propaganda!).

In reality, everyone trusts the dollar because you know you can exchange it anywhere, you know the bonds will be paid, you know its value and you know that there is no way for the US to suddenly decided to peg it to some exchange rate that is completely useless, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Russia style.
If anyone here would even remotely consider another currency to be better we would talk about BTC being worth x rubles, z yuans, y bolivars, but in reality, not even 1% would know those numbers while 101% know the price by heart in $. That's reality!

And Russia found out the hard way, after their assets got frozen by the NATO.

You obviously have no clue what Nato is, and just as a heads up, despite starting with NA is not the nationalist socialist worker's party.

They should have converted their USD denominated assets to gold or some other physical asset long back. And it was not that hard. Russia produces around 300 tonnes of gold every year.

And here comes the economic genius explaining to others how the economy works.
No, it doesn't work like that, when nobody trusts you in anything, just like here we're were all almost anonymous in order to do business you need escrow and collateral, if you want to access funds poeple need to know you're solvable, and keeping your gold and assets in some radioactive lake in Siberia is no escrow. That's why in order to get western financing Russia was so desperate on having they agreed to have all those assets in European and American banks.

But that's not a thing they teach you at the 8 AM let's hate the west propaganda morning tutorial for brainwashed zombies.

3466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻 on: July 07, 2022, 09:56:01 AM
2022 so far aggregates to an equivalent of almost 52 M $, though the figure is still around small and represents around 1.6% of all remittances received by the country in aggregate. Still a seemingly shy figure thus so far.

The good news is that it seems like it's climbing, the bad news is that is almost 1/3 of the first month where probably everyone was trying to figure out what this is and how it works. Diving a bit into those numbers, looking at the average remittance being $195, picking the option of paying in cash at a WU location and cash pick-up in Salvador too (which is not the cheapest), it costs 8$ for 200$, so it means that in the last month Salvadorians have avoided around $500 000 in fees over WU.

Of course, that goes both ways as cash locations offices in Salvador will get a share of that so the money is not completely lost, plus there is the cost with all those ATMs, the infrastructure for them so right now the government is probably heavily subsiding something that has little effect overall. Numbers really need to pick up by an order of magnitude to see some results.

Anyhow, nice that they finally publish some numbers as for a while it seemed that transparency was their last priority
Now I really want to hear some updates on that built for mining brand new geothermal plant  Roll Eyes


3467  Economy / Economics / Re: Zimbabwe resorts to gold coins as local currency tumbles on: July 07, 2022, 09:40:52 AM
The internet cost is huge for Zimbabwe and they are almost paying $75 for 1 GB data throughout their country.
This means, if I am an individual who wish to use any desktop wallet for bitcoin which is usually 200-500 MB in size, I would end up paying $40 bucks just to download the wallet!

That's a myth and it was because BBC used an already out od date exchange rate which nobody cared about but stayed there on official sites.
https://zimfact.org/does-1gig-of-data-cost-us75-in-zimbabwe-as-claimed-by-the-bbc/

Besides, electrum is just 40MB and is designed exactly to be lightweight, you won't be reaching that 1GB in years you would exceed that way faster by browsing WoT or looking at cat pics, and when I say faster I mean a few days.


There is alot of benefit for approval of bitcoin in Zimbabwe and one is that those Zimbabweans working out of the shores of there country can transfer money home through bitcoin and that can rejuvenate their economy through investment and hodling naturally may increase individual earnings and the currency can get back in value.

What would be the difference between adopting USD or BTC for the average citizen?
First, they would have to get those BTC , which is the same thing s trying to get USD with a failed currency and will do exactly the same damage to the economy, everyone will rush to sell Zimbabwe currency and buy coins, destroying the peg even more as obviously nobody wants their currency. And after that, where will the money and investment come from magically? In order for the population to make a profit on their bitcoin purchase, they would have to sell it to others at a higher price, you see the vicious circle here?

Bitcoin is money, you need money in order to get money, in order to invest you need to let that money go, it's not something magical, oh we bought 100 BTC our economy will thrive.

Satoshi didn't create Bitcoin to rejuvenate the industry or make some holders rich and never pretend to be a magical cure for everything.
Bitcoin is perfect at transferring value without intermediaries, but in order to do that, you need to have that value in the first place.



3468  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is trading really worth it? on: July 06, 2022, 09:06:11 PM
Math can’t predict human irrationally and politics, technical analysis wont change anything about that.
How do you think that trade is analysed, charted and mapped out? Or how do you think forcast or speculation is made? Most are from technical analysis. Technical analysis is what holds the trend more. After news or fundamental (such news in adoption) then the trend forms and continues that way through technical analysis you can know that. Or after news the trend can continue if it is not of high impact.

And how accurate have TA and charts predicted the situation we're now in?
Have charts and TA predicted the dump when Elon had nothing better to do than tweet pro and against bitoin?
Have charts predicted the slump when Covid hit? Have charts predicted the dump when Russia invaded Ukraine?

Every single time I look at all those "experts" claiming to know where the price is heading I look at their history and see how they were wrong tens of times, with the same logic they use in creating charts after charts after charts.

Guessing the price when it comes to crypto is just gambling, but nobody wants to admit they are just doing guesswork based on nothing.
There is no production capacity, there is no number of rigs, there is no cost for shipping, there is no accurate daily consumption and inventories, and all the data you have when trading oil for example, in cryptos you have nothing! Nothing!
3469  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Voyager has filed for bankruptcy in NY court. Deposits there in serious risk. on: July 06, 2022, 08:54:57 PM
This is an alarming news which might cause more FUD to the crypto market.
It will truly bring FUD

Do you guys even know what FUD means or is it like some sutra chanting for you?
FUD -  Fear, uncertainity and doubt!

Where the hell is the uncertainty and doubt about this?
It's a damn FACT, Voyager has filed for bankruptcy, you have the damn filling just above in the first post, it's as clear as day, voyager is done for!
All of those companies dropping like flies from 3AC, Vauld, Babel kept on life support right now, with their own employees are fleeing and some of you say this is FUD?

I thought Celcius will be the one who will apply for this but I guess Celcius still have balls to stand on this crypto market dipshit.
 

Celsius not Celcius had the balls to take user funds hostage and rob them, that's all the balls they've had.
3470  Economy / Economics / Re: Zimbabwe resorts to gold coins as local currency tumbles on: July 06, 2022, 07:06:12 PM
The devil is in the details, as always

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"The gold coins will be available for sale to the public from 25 July 2022 in both local currency (ZW$) and United States Dollars (US$) (and other foreign currencies) at a price based on the prevailing international price of gold and the cost of production. The coins will be sold through the Bank and its subsidiaries, Fidelity Gold Refinery (Private) Limited and Aurex (Private) Limited, local banks and selected international banking partners. Entities selling the coins shall be required to apply Know Your Customer (KYC) principles.

So what they are trying to do here is get some more funding for their gold reserves that are getting turned into coins, it's basically selling gold at an extra price and not trying to revive the gold standard or anything else.

Coins will be more like collectibles with their own serial number, you'll have to go though KYC and good luck actually trying to use it as something in the real economy, it does say it can be used but how will this actually work? Gold coins were more used in video games than in actual life, from antiquity to the middle ages people used silver coins and often they would split those into two or 4 pieces to cover purchases and depending on the country and age resort to copper pieces for change.

This coin will have ~30 grams, so ~$1700, how could you use it for more than 0.1% of the situations there?



3471  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bank of America reported a 50% decline of active cryptocurrency users. on: July 06, 2022, 06:40:55 PM
To me, this sounds like FUD news

Of course of course, if it's not positive and it's not about laser eyes, the price at 1 million soon it's FUD.

What do you expect with a declining price, with shitcoins getting trashed into oblivion, with the NFT madness dying down, with play-to-earn blockchain 'games" losing millions of players? The amount of money available in crypto has shrunk nearly 3 times, there is less money floating around, and there is less incentive to trade and invest.

Look at the number of blockchain transactions:
https://www.blockchain.com/charts/n-transactions



Despite getting a next block confirmation with 2 satoshi per byte the number of actual transactions is way lower than two years ago, people are either hoarding or ditching usage altogether, and people holding coins in their cold wallets can't be called "active users".
It's pretty normal, it's a bearish trend and until the price goes up again you will not see an increase in active users, it simply doesn't work so.




3472  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Heliosfund.io - Scam fintech and mining venture with 300% APR on: July 06, 2022, 04:27:59 PM
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Yeah, like moths drawn to fire, here comes another scammer spamming his fake recovery service, hopefully, all the messages will get nuked before he manages to scam some victim.

i'm sorry for you but being the thread public everybody can evaluate the legitimacy of our proposition. In fact, every doubt you had has been well explained, no problems at all from our side. 

You have zero legitimacy just as you have zero licenses, zero projects, zero assets, and zero plans other than scamming some poor victims who ouwl believe the load of crap on your website that changes every quarter according to the hype you want to attach your "project" too.
If you had any legitimacy you would show something from your mining operations that should have been working for years now and at the rates claimed you should afford easily to start your business without begging on go fund me ...

But the fact that you just copy-pasted the same message on both threads is a bit reassuring, you're running low on credible excuses.



3473  Economy / Economics / Re: Unemplyment at least 50% how world will look like then ? on: July 06, 2022, 04:11:54 PM
I think portugal and spain have both endured youth unemployment statistics near to 50% for their age bracket of 19 to 24. It would seem parts of europe have already achieved 50% unemployment for some segments of the population.

Those are regional things, it's mostly because of particular situations and also a lot of mentalities of the populations.
All over Europe there are different things, from low unemployment when it comes to women in Italy for example, to youngsters in most southern countries to overall less willingness to work in the true economy and more in the black, unregulated in the eastern parts...and so on

Anyhow, when it comes to Europe the employment levels are sky-high, even in Spain,
Spain sees record employment levels since 2008, the EU is experiencing the highest level of labor participation in its history,  74.5 %, it's full 10 and in some cases, even 20% higher than other countries in the world and I'm not talking about 3rd world economies.

I'm not sure but according to what I found from google the unemployment rate is increseing in all over the world not just in the USA

Not at all, the EU is experiencing the lowest unemployment in its history:
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/euro-zone-unemployment-falls-new-record-low-66-may-2022-06-30/
the lowest level since 1998.


3474  Economy / Economics / Re: Sensational Push For Cryptocurrencies As US Fed on: July 06, 2022, 03:30:29 PM
I have not read anywhere in the article that anything other than CBDC and stablecoins is explicitly mentioned, so I do not think that Bitcoin could benefit from this.

Well technically, both of them are cryptocurrency so that would be an excuse for such a clickbaitish title..
Anyhow, the rest of the article is pretty much garbage and the obvious thing about it is that they link older articles of their own in order to boost the credibility of the story, so it's just recycled news with little to no meaning.

If we go to the original document:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/the-feds-inaugural-conference-on-the-international-roles-of-the-us-dollar-20220705.htm
the sensational push becomes a pull, since the only time cryptos are mentioned in in this context:

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Asani Sarkar and Jiakai Chen focus on digital assets and argue that part of the demand for some cryptocurrencies, like Bitcoin, is driven by the desire to evade capital controls. Using information for China, the research shows persistent and statistically significant differences between Bitcoin prices in multiple exchanges and that it trades at a premium on Chinese exchanges relative to foreign exchanges.

How such an attitude is positive for BTC is beyond me.

3475  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Legal Tender in Central African Republic on: July 05, 2022, 01:15:39 PM
The most important factor for the success of nations adopting Bitcoin as legal tender is political will. If the leaders are sincere and have no hidden agenda for the adoption of Bitcoin then the process would prosper.  Sincerity and seriousness would make them channel the necessary human, financial and material resources to ensure that the necessary systems and infrastructures are available for the smooth running of Bitcoin processes. From what I have read from the BIP show today, I believe or perceive that CAR have the political will.

And as time passes...

Unlike the unshaken and practical political will of the government of El Salvador, the Central African Republic adoption of Bitcoin as a legal has been viewed in some quarters as lacking merit and credibility. The Sango website has been closed (just giving countdowns) and the online framework document cannot be found. The whole Bitcoin issue in CAR is becoming very complex and complicated to understand. But government’s introduction of its own Sango coin is seems like a conscious attempt to shift citizen’s attention away from Bitcoin. Instead of putting more effort for the uses of Bitcoin, government would rather promote its own coin that could be controlled and manipulated by the CAR government.

The mirage is slowly disappearing and instead of the beautiful oasis, you still get that hyena den full of the bones of the ones that believe in it.
I always said, no matter how you build something, no matter how bulletproof the concept is if the foundation is weak if the people who are building it are cheating on the materials and on the plan, you will not be able to build anything.
This whole trend of corrupt, poor as hell, bankrupt countries suddenly embracing BTC and wow, everything will be fine just because..

I laughed when there was that meeting in Salvador and everyone got angry when I said, those are the poorest countries in the world, those are the countries that have been driven to absolute poverty by the same leaders who are smiling there for photos after steeping from their limos and taking toast in front of a BATM, what do you expect from them?
Just because they are embracing BTC in their political statements do you think they will be less corrupt, they will lie less often, they will finally do something for their own people, the first time in 50 years just because.... what???

You need a solid foundation for a solid economy if the foundation is flawed to the core (insert pun about the fiasco of the bitcoin foundation here) nothing can help.

And look what we have here now, a centralized shitcoin backed by one of the worse companies, how is this shitcoin going to help anything other the pockets of its creators?
3476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: There is a Museum of Bitcoin Mining History in Caracas, Venezuela on: July 05, 2022, 01:01:22 PM
Looks excellent the museum

Seriously? You're using a word spinner on the post just above yours?
I thought we got rid of those plagiarists but seems like they are coming back..

It’s a private initiative from a group of established miners in Venezuela. The rather lengthy 2021 article from Criptonoticias gives a thorough description of what to expect from the Museum: cpu motherboards, GPU video cards, fpga, all sorts of asic equipment - there being an area that displays modern mining equipment for sale (probable the ulterior goal), a bitcoin asic miner pool (demo at the time and perhaps still now, since they did not have the state permission to mine there), and a crypto bar …

I think it's more like a crypto mining museum, not just bitcoin
I can see a D3 there which mines blake, a Z9  which is equihash, L3 which is scrypt so probably every single thing Bitmain made an ASIC for is over there.

I wonder if they are going to be able to get a lot of the older miners and ones that had limited production runs.

With enough money you can get everything, there is a guy selling a BL Jalapeno for 500$, I saw some Neptunes, a Cointerra might be harder to get  Grin Grin

3477  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BestChange is protecting scammers on: July 05, 2022, 10:38:45 AM
This is a very controversial story because it is based on ideological differences.

This is so rich coming from the guys who told all their members in the signature campaign that they have to either avoid discussing anything about a "special operation" or quit wearing their signature.

Facts, and not ideological differences
- a user's funds were frozen and both you and the scammer exchanged claimed it was because AML regulation, AML and FATF regulations demand that you freeze those assets and you inform the authorities which will then pursue this case
- suddenly when you face a serious backslash on the forum, AML regulations were forgotten and the SCAM exchange you're listing on your website released the funds 9contrarty to the law) taking a 10% cut, again unlawfully
- the SCAM exchange then decided to update its terms and conditions to some lunatic ones, that probably everyone who has any idea how the law works will have a heart attack from so much laughter
- you as an indexer are removing feedback you deem subjective and you're not displaying the real score those exchanges get

Since at this moment you refuse to take action against a proven lying, scamming, and unlawfully in any jurisdiction on this planet exchange, don't you think you're reaching the moment where our "subjective" evaluation might also start to take form and color, red color?

I am doing a test.
So, apparently someone has changed the title, that it doesn't appear as such from outside the tread or in the main title, but in the answers.
JollyGood, was it you?
"Re: BestChange is not a scam" appears to me from your reply.

It was Best_Change that did so in their reply, which I'm also quoting but since they want to play that game I'll join

3478  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin Reduce the Global Wealth and Income Inequalities in 2022? on: July 04, 2022, 08:12:05 PM
Of course, there should be no doubt that Bitcoin is the reason why some people are millionaires today, or will become so in the future - but these are only exceptions.

Kind of ironic, isn't it? Bitcoin has helped a few become exactly the ultra-rich elitist that just helps widen the gap.
And even ignoring those few, Bitcoin won't be able to somehow make just the poor middle class and the middle class richer without also making the ones who have enough money to throw thousands of dollars at BTC even richer.
I really don't get those threads that still cling to some hope of wealth redistribution over and over and over.

Thanks to bitcoin's trustless format, it doesn't rely on wage based employees or bank managers who are trusted to monitor and run day to day operations. This shift in design translates to greater efficiency. Which in turn equates to large sums of money being transferrable across the world at lower cost.

To transfer large sums of money via BTC you need large sums of money in the first place to buy those coins, and poor people don't have those large sums of money, and far more importantly, the 6 billion who live paycheck to paycheck really don't care that much about sending and receiving daily millions across the world.

Bitcoin does perfectly what Satoshi designed it to do, all the rest is just things people want to believe BTC could be capable of if all the stars align.
3479  Economy / Economics / Re: Wheat War I is going to be World War III on: July 04, 2022, 05:42:11 PM
I don't know why he thinks he knows my country better than I

This way of thinking hasn't stopped you from claiming things about every European country on the map despite never setting foot there..

In any case since it was brought up I have to say that I'm not an economy expert to know how the hell they compute these numbers. Iran has inflation, sometimes high ones but it is nowhere near as high as those numbers report. For example I write every single cent I spend in an excel spreadsheet for money management, I just made some computations to see the amount of money I've spent in the past 5 years which should show the inflation to some extent:

Yeah lol, let's believe the guys who
- claimed sunflower oil was nowhere to be found in Germany when stores were full
- the guy who claimed the bankrupt UK paid half a billion for two spies captured in Iran
- the guy who claimed that two rockets fired by Iran destroyed American equipment worth trillions
- the guy who claimed 6000 American soldiers died killed by Iran strikes
 the guy who claimed American weapons are shit despite the global superpower intergalactic army of Iran still flying F4 made in the US 60 years ago

And when presented with accurate data from his own government, then the data...is not that is this and it's not that because ...

Cooking oil (price quadrupled). Eggs (price about doubled). Meat (price went up about 50%). The average of all of these becomes a high number.

So the price went up but the subsidy that was just canceled is making those prices not going up...
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220619-inflation-subsidy-reform-hit-stomachs-in-isolated-iran

Yeah, have fun lying to yourself and dreaming Iran is a superpower, and the western civilization will collapse just because you got your green card denied..meanwhile, the reality is entirely different.

If I'm not mistaken 80% of the population which is about 70 million are currently receiving the cash every month in their bank accounts.

What a nice way to say that 80% of the population is facing starvation and the government is helping them with...10$ a month?

Yearly inflation in the US hits 8%
- the US will go bankrupt
Monthly inflation hits 13% in Iran
- the US will go bankrupt  Grin Grin

3480  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM EXCHANGE: Openchange (Openchange.cash) (PARTIALLY SOLVED) on: July 04, 2022, 02:08:58 PM
I also noticed they just added ToS where they can take 10% for "high risk fund" which didn't exist few days ago (unfortunately i didn't archive it).
I noticed that 10% BS a few days ago already. I'm not sure if they quickly added it.
They're basically saying they can selectively scam 10% of any deposit.

That' weird, i remember it doesn't exist few days ago (should be July 1st). But it's definitely not exist a year ago according to the archive, https://web.archive.org/web/20210613120712/https://openchange.cash/t%D0%B5rms_of_service/

Just laughing at those ToS

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7.3 If the analysis of the Payin transaction revealed the presence of these types of high-risk funds and their total percentage was 40% or more, the Company has the right to withhold 10% of the amount of the incoming transaction.
7.4 If the total risk of the incoming transaction is 70% or more, the Company has the right to withhold 10% of the amount of the Payin transaction.

So basically if the funds seems to be stolen they are charging a 10% money laundering fee.
I can't wait, hope I don't have to go to discord to see how the wanna-be lawyer saxydev is going to explain how this 10% is a requirement by directive 69 of the FY constitution.

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9. Other terms.
9.1 It is forbidden to use the OpenChange Company for fraudulent and illegal transactions.

Wait, so if it's forbidden, then why do you accept them and take your 10% money laundering share?  Grin

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Openchange.me tracks suspicious transactions of the clients and transactions executed under nonstandard conditions. Openchange.me performs its action on the base of AML FATF recommendations.

And releases them after taking a 10% cut.
At this point, there is nothing left to debate, scammers, law breakers, liars, so I'm waiting to see bestchange next move...

 

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