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2601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Green energy falacy: Switzerland could ban electric vehicle during energy crisis on: December 06, 2022, 01:37:36 PM
I think it is important to note here that such a ban could only happen in the event that Switzerland faces major problems with the supply of electricity and that this is only one of the measures they have put on the table, and that the term "nonessential" is also emphasized, which means that the ban would not apply to everyone. The measures that are still being considered are, of course, much broader and even go so far as to reduce the resolution of streaming services.

It can happen in California too, and there was supposed to be a lot of green and cheap energy there but instead, there is no energy, it has the most expensive power rates in the states, and so on.
The problems are the same, you can only have one limited amount of energy created with green initiatives, and only during certain times, there is no way to expand hydroelectricity capacity in Switzerland so all they can do is import from others, just like California, but when the others from which you were buying are going the moronic way too, this happens.

Does Switzerland even have any refineries for oil to gas?

Just one, close to the border with France on one of the pipelines that bring oil in and next to one of the gas pipe that comes from Germany to Italy but most diesel and gasoline has always been imported from Germany.

they say average per person use of electric pre ecar is 0.75kw per day
family of 2 children is about 2kwh a day

Household electricity consumption in Switzerland is 4500kwh a year, that's 13 kWh a day, so you're off by almost an order of magnitude.
The average personal car distance driven is 40km a day, so for the most efficient Tesla, it will be 4.5 kwh.

So, as usual, you're completely wrong about everything.
2602  Economy / Economics / Re: LMAO: Lagarde says Euro CBDC seeks to 'ensure high standars of privacy'. on: December 06, 2022, 01:19:26 PM
So, no privacy.
They want us to believe that with the digital Euro there will be privacy because they won't publish every transaction we make with our name and surname on a website accessible to everyone. And no, obviously they are not going to do that so that your neighbour or a thief knows what you spend your money on, but they are going to know 24/7 what you spend every penny on.

And what do you expect from a national currency, seriously?

This whole privacy thing gets overblown so easily, you want total privacy as in nobody knowing what you're doing with your money, nobody knows where you're money is going, good, then just one day later the narrative change, what the hell we can't track the government spending either, the gubbermint is doing something fishy!!

You have to draw a line somewhere and understand that there is no way this total privacy would work in any environment, you go to a bank you present the ID because without the ID check everyone could come and claim he's you, you run your business there is your name there, you sell a car, you sign for insurance, you buy a pizza the guys know your address. So here, the government and not a bank will know what you have purchased, so instead of two guys there will be only one, and that one will stay as in every single instance there will be someone who knows where your money is going.

It's quite ironic when we have a scam accusation in this subboard forum everyone asks for proof, proof you have sent the money, proof of the bet, proof of the tx, document everything, when it's about privacy, no recordings,s no tracking, no nothing, how dare you, infidel!

Banks will have reduced usage and we will be easier to be spied by the government.
Who do you prefer to spy your life? The government, or private companies?
I prefer private companies, because they cannot fine me, and they can't break into my house as well.

But, but, banks, money laundering, HSBC, ABN AMRO, fractional reserve, all that stuff...
Anyhow, wouldn't it be easier to change the government? I mean, I don't think you can accuse the danish government of leveling people's houses with tanks searching for a stolen bicycle!

Anyhow, as I said, quite funny.
I want to know where the money from FTX went!!!! The government shouldn't be able to trace any transaction, we need bulletproof privacy!!!
2603  Economy / Economics / Re: Cash must be king, Giorgia Meloni tells shoppers on: December 05, 2022, 03:44:12 PM
It seems she did not go to economics lecture in her class.  Cheesy
Where at one corner of the globe there are nations who are changing their denominations so that they can dig out the black money that is hidden everywhere in the nation and also trying more digital approach: here is PM from most developed countries who thinks that cash is actually the way to avoid money laundering.

You've got this wrong, she didn't say a thing about money laundering, her position was that raising the limit slightly won't affect money laundering that much since it will still be low enough and still comparable to other EU countries. She focused on the other aspect, that you're forced to use a credit card or a debit card for payments over 60E even at a chain store, which is a bit stupid, to be honest, I'm in the EU and I can still pay my groceries in cash far higher in value with cash at any store. Now switch from groceries to a night out and you're out of luck since it's highly improbable to come under those 60 euros for a dinner for two persons, so basically, everyone would be forced to have a card.
It's one thing to encourage, but it's completely a different thing to apply unseasonable limits, the limits in Italy were the lowest in all of EU and even increasing them they would not be the highest at all, Germany has no limit and is just planning to introduce a 10k one, double the one Meloni is aiming for.

Some countries are just bad at digitalizing, and you often need cash there to get by. Italy has been heavily cash-based for a while.

It's not about digitalization, is about the resistance of their own citizen, Italy scores one of the lowest even looking at the number of transactions per card, Germans also prefer cash to cards despite being able to pay everywhere with a card, this is no longer a thing of infrastructure but mentality.
2604  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: What's the faith of zeroconf Merchants ? on: December 05, 2022, 03:14:12 PM
Regading the new Bitcoin core version 24 update that implements full RBF as a way to eliminate zeroconf transactions. What would happen to the merchants that depends on zero confirmation to thrive their businesses?

They switch to LN, simple as that.
The only reason to accept zero confirmation transactions is to not let your customer wait for minutes or even hours after he has paid for his coffee, pizza, and groceries, holding him hostage till the tx is confirmed. Besides, in most cases, if we exclude tourist hot spots the ones paying with bitcoin are just a few, merchants would know them already as regulars, so what are you going to do, scam a grocery store of $50 and then never show your face again there? Not even mentioning the fact that the business can file a complaint for fraud?

It all comes down to a simple thing, will you lose more in revenue from customers, or are losses from theft higher than the profit, merchants always have to balance the pro and cons of everything in their business, and some will get scared after one-two thefts and drop it, some who have just regulars will keep doing so even with this change. Online merchants probably won't even care, they will definitely have the time to stop the shipping, and gambling and exchange sites will just all use the same cooldown some do right now where you're not allowed to instantly withdraw the sum you have deposited despite them accepting zero confirmation deposits and allowing you to gamble with them.


2605  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: More platforms will bite the dust? on: December 05, 2022, 01:56:32 PM
I doubt a bit numbers there, Compass mining is having just 80 employees and they have like 75 specialists on their "about us" page. Plus with all their location it would be simply impossible to run that with just 80, especially since they deal with a lot more stuff. Some of them might have subsidiaries as FTX had.

Also, two things:

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2TM   Crypto Unicorn   2022-06-03   86
They are getting another round of lay-offs, seems like the unicorn is not feeling too well, might have to get him to a vet after the coinbase deal failed seems like down is the only way to go.

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Valkyrie Investments   Investment Company   2022-11-15   7   30%
When you suddenly realize that all the promised money is not coming as all your investors lately have backed off their deals I wonder why you still keep any employees at all and not just shut down and run the whole "investment" company on Twitter and youtube from home as that's all she's doing lately.

This amount of lay-off also tells another side of the story, all those people were basically earning their wages on the money people were pouring into crypto, they weren't doing anything else, just moving money from A to B and waiting for B to increase in price, I'm pretty sure that while telling people to hold on social media silently they were selling coins to have to pay their expenses. This model is flawed from the start and until you have a bull run and a huge inflow of cash everyone running the company like that will keep firing.

Which reminds me of one on the list, Core Scientific:

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Core Scientific held 24 Bitcoins and approximately $26.6 million in cash as of Thursday. That’s compared with 1,051 Bitcoins and about $29.5 million in cash as of September, the company said in the filing.

If one of the largest miners is liquidating bitcoins to survive, what about the others who don't produce a cent o their own?
2606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nigerian government set to tax bitcoin and crypto transactions on: December 05, 2022, 12:48:11 PM
In my country, Bitcoin still doesn’t have tax because our government doesn’t care about its existence.

Just because crypto is not regulated by law it doesn't mean that the government can't force you to pay taxes on the profits you made, many have called for this, saying that the government doesn't care about coins and then wake up to find letters from the IRS equivalent, as the profit you make is still profit and profit is taxable everywhere.

1. Does this means the government is considering the adoption of bitcoin and other crypto currencies?
2. How has the other countries placed on crypto taxation faired so far?
3. Will its regulation helps speeds up its adoption by people within the country?

1. Tens of countries have established specific taxes on cryptocurrency gains yet are not moving an inch towards adoptions and have no plans on doing so.
2. It depends from county to country, in the ones where people pay their taxes they pay taxes on crypto gains also, in the ones where tax avoidance is a way of life and the citizens split their time between work and figuring way how not to pay of course it's not working that great. So it's impossible to have the same effect in Nigeria and in the US for example.
3. Nobody knows, n one extreme scenario it might actually drive a few to stop dealing with the moment the equivalent of the IRS there starts digging and inviting active traders to have a talk and take their money.

The best thing is to ask yourself what are you going to do, are you going to declare all profits down to a penny and pay all the taxes or not?
Ask a few friends and if the result is a unanimous NO, then this will of course have no effect whatsoever. And if the government sees that nobody pays, then it might restrict it even more.

2607  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Family is moving more than $1 million into decentralized exchanges on: December 05, 2022, 12:03:51 PM
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The family is currently living on 0.3 bitcoin a month — about $5,000 — and they are buying back the bitcoin that they sold when the cryptocurrency was trading at around $55,000 a year ago

Hihi, is nobody going to comment on the fact that they he sodl?
Some weak hands stuff, anything like this?  Grin

That family invested everything they had in Bitcoin in 2017, so 10 years is not an accurate figure - because if it were, they would probably be far richer than they are today considering the price of BTC 10 years ago. Apart from mere curiosity about what is happening with that family, their move was strange to most of us back in 2017, and for some it is difficult to explain even today.

They sold all their assets and bought Bitcoin at $900 so they should've made made x50, if the house was even the basic 2 bedroom one they still have a little fortune there.
Although, the numbers they give are a bit chaotic,  it's 900 buy in but in other interviews, he claims a 2000% profit, which doesn't really match the numbers, or maybe he has lost some since he did invest in tokens.

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Currently, the Taihuttus keep 27% of their crypto holdings “hot” on centralized exchanges such as Bybit, a platform Taihuttu said is transparent and backed by real assets. He also keeps some tokens on Kraken, since it is one of the oldest exchanges. The family declined to say how much it holds in crypto, but they did disclose that they are shifting $1 million worth of bitcoin, ether, litecoin, polkadot, and other tokens

So, if no matter when this was, before or after he moved his tokens he still had at least $300k on CEX, it took a crash like FTX for him to understand it's not a good idea, and he trusts Bybit that much? Real assets? He made a serious move and managed to get lucky at that time, I admire him for the courage, not that I would want to live their live of nomads even for a week but seems like he's pushing it.

2608  Economy / Economics / Re: The Labor Market Is Broken on: December 05, 2022, 07:38:49 AM
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Yet labor force participation remains stubbornly low, with only 62.3 percent of the civilian population working or actively looking for work—well below pre-pandemic levels.

So according to
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

The current labor participation for November is 62.1%, and in November 2019 it was 62.2% , this well below is just 1% off.
So, a bit too much sensationalism for someone who writes on reason dot com.

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There are plenty of uncharitable theories about why the American work force is shrinking as a percentage of the population, resulting in 10 million unfilled jobs and a lot of well-wrung hands. The most common is simply that Kids These Days don't want to work and it'll be Gen Z's fault when the U.S. is no longer a global economic superpower.

Or, things have changed and not everyone who is 16 yo is that keen to go to work and is more interested in finishing his studies.
In the last 20 years, the participation rate for over 20yo has dropped 5% from 75 to 70 while for 16-19 10% from 47% to 37%.

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Positive views of capitalism more generally have slipped since 2019, with 39 percent expressing negative views in an August Gallup poll. Another Gallup poll found an uptick of 3 percentage points in people who say they are "completely dissatisfied" with their jobs, while the number of people who were "completely satisfied" fell 8 points

And let's throw a few anti-capitalism views cause socialism needs another breather after failing again and again and again.

Of course there are other explanations.

That people got free money and got used to it, that a lot of them are still thinking they might get another free check and are living and debt or from savings, still dealing with that miraculously something will happen and they will never need to go to work again? The whole r/antiwork sub is full of those daydreamers, just wait another year went the savings are gone and the credit is maxed, and you're going to see a hiring spree like never before.
Before even thinking it twice, this is not something global and one should look over the ocean



Month after month of record-breaking employment levels.
2609  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bank accounts on: December 05, 2022, 07:03:55 AM
I'm going to use the same Binance exchange as an example.

If you are trying to buy BTC secretly do not use your credit card to purchase, do not use your bank account either.
Use P2P on Binance exchange, you will send Money from your bank account to someone you are paired with, the receiver will drop their bank details for you and you send them fiat and they will give you BTC in return.

So, how is he going to do both the things you're advising him to?
Not using his bank account but sending money from his bank account, or not using his bank account but getting money from strangers in his bank account?

I should just give up, some really think that this so-called P2P when you're dealing with a guy that does 100 transactions a  day with people all over the world from his bank account and which in any country with AML laws is clearly under surveillance if it's not an undercover agent is somehow safer than sending your money the same way to the account fo an exchange rather than the account of a strange.
2610  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-11-01] Grocery retailer Pick n Pay start accepting cryptocurrency payments on: December 05, 2022, 06:35:38 AM
The reasons might be as simple as :
~

The reason is pretty simple, nobody wants to spend something that might earn them x10 more if they hold for one year.
The whole thing about VAT or taxes or ToS is just an excuse, I doubt more than 10% actually pay taxes even for the money they withdraw via banks, VAT is not a problem at all since you pay it on purchases in every country that has VAT and no sale tax, and the thing about the ToS, common, there are people who hand over all their details copies of their papers and selfies to companies they don't even know where are located, what more compliance you would want.

The reality is that 99% of the ones involved in crypto think Laszlo was stupid to buy a pizza with bitcoins cause if he didn't he would be rich now, completely missing the point that if it weren't for early usage it's highly possible none of us would be here right now. After all, what would be the purpose of a coin nobody wants to part with?

The matter is quite clear to me (at least as far as the specific case is concerned), but also from many other cases that I know about from this forum over the years. You can have a thousand researches and gather data, but that won't change the philosophy of people (the majority) to look at Bitcoin as an investment and not as a currency to pay for goods or services.

There is no need for those researchers at all, we can look at the blockchain and see the number of traction is going down, and if we look at the value of the coins right now over LN, the total capacity in $ is actually decreasing, not even mentioning that in the last month for the first time even the BTC value has gone down.
Probably only when we've reached a point where everyone would understand an x10 x5 jump is no longer feasible overnight we might start seeing people actively using their coins.
It is what it is and he has to live with it, like it or not, I'm starting to believe more and more that even deciding on a common goal is impossible, everyone will use it as it sees fit, no matter how a this might turn to be longterm.

2611  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Let's not be too judgemental about CZ (Binance) on: December 05, 2022, 06:10:44 AM
I beg to disagree, why is CZ not rotting in jail now or charged for any wrongdoing? I believe you don't understand the style of attack I was referring to.

And why are you so sure it won't happen?
Is SBF rotting in jail right now or am I missing something?

Don't get it twisted, I'm not an advocate of CZ, and neither am I a fan.

You're not an advocate but you're opening a topic on how grateful we should be to CZ for all the glorious work he has put into crypto and that we should not dare to doubt to attack him and tolerate all his dick moves and all the bullshit the claims on Twitter because we're too stupid to understand his greatness. F*** CZ! And a big FY to all his cohort of asslickers too!

Revealing more secrets is key to sanitising the much-underregulated exchange industry.

That's why I asked you, since you like regulation and open data so much, again, where are Binance headquarters and office?
Is Binance licensed and regulated in your country? Oh, wait, no it's not!

I only like what he is doing for the industry.

Building a monopoly, attacking others, attacking bitcoin, fleeing from the law? This is, good for the industry?

Goodness! You still went in search of what I wrote about two months ago? Well, you should not just take that out of context, I wrote the topic in search of a better exchange that offers Options trading better than Binance, so you have no valid point here.

It doesn't matter, Binance is the only exchange you trade on and you're here praising Binance, that is called bias and that's how it is.
2612  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bahamas Govt. Ordered FTX to Transferred Funds to Government Wallet on: December 05, 2022, 05:54:32 AM
So how is this going to work exactly.

FTX US has a bankruptcy hearing in USA.
FTX Intl has a bankruptcy hearing in Bahamas.

No, it's not like that!
There is no FTX intl, there is FTX Digital Markets Ltd., the subsidiary of  FTX Trading Ltd , both of them were registered in Bahamas.
FTX Digital Markets Ltd kept their bankruptcy with the Bahamas authorities, while FTX Trading Ltd agreed with the liquidators appointed by the Bahamas authorities to file for chapter 11 in Delaware US.

However how do they split the money exactly? They had horrible accounting. How can they tell which money belongs to which country?

Money doesn't belong to a country!
The money belongs in both situations to the creditors that will file for a claim, there is no money going to the US or Bahamas government, all the assets will be frozen and retrieved by the ones appointed at restructuring or in case this is deemed impossible liquidate the company and pay up the how much as recovered to the debtors.
It's not like FTX Australia will pay first Australians then the users from New Zeeland and last the ones from France.

As for how will they be split it's simple, the money either belongs to FTX DM or to FTX Trading, and there will be no split in any moving assets from one side to another.

Sbf claimed many times that FTX USA is solvent and so is FTX Japan. However this is catch 22. Those two entities might be solvent. However if they pay out everyone then the people who got funds trapped into FTX intl will get less.

Again, it doesn't work like this, each of the companies will have to pay back their own claims first if anything is left will there be a complete liquidation nd see who gets the extra or it might be that the exchange will be kept running as a separate entity! There is no pooling of funds and paying randomly.


2613  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why make Samuel Bankman-Fried popular for the wrong reason? on: December 05, 2022, 05:37:10 AM
~ forum members who keep their coins in FTZ exchange.
~In the curiosity I have I decided to search SMF in my browser and I saw different meaning and not Samuel Banksman-Fried.

If you don't know the name of the owner, nor the correct name of the exchange if you have to search who the guy was, then why are you so angry at him being "popular" when he obviously isn't as you don't have a clue about him?

Now I go back to my browser to type SMF and it now appear as Samuel Bankman-Fried and other meaning of SMF

I'm actually not sure this is what's happening there, when I type SBF I get results related to the crypto scandal, when I type SMF I don't get any hit, not even in the news, I get news from French and Indonesian sources but nothing about SBF and FTX.

I think we are making a scammer who took the hard work of traders feel good and popular with SMF that is everywhere in the forum.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that after losing 10 billion, with a high chance of getting in jail SBF must be so damn happy that when people search SMF (how many even do this) they get results on how much of a scammer and incompetent he and his team was. You're putting way too much emphasis on how much people normally care about their social media presence or internet exposure, especially in this case.

Anyhow, quite ironically, while complaining about his popularity you just opened a thread with his name and made a lot of people that are curious about your story search for " SBF", exactly the opposite of what you were angry of.






2614  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Searching for mining-site from the past, any clues? on: December 02, 2022, 03:44:12 PM
Would help more to pinpoint what happened if he could remember if he was CPU or GPU mining at that time, for now with the info we have we could only say that he was probably mining on a pool and that CMD thing he remember might have been one of the mining programs like cgminer but that's of no real help.

Anyhow, there are just a few pools that are still online and only slush would be the one that he could have used back at that time, if he can't figure out how to recover his account then that's it.
If he was solo mining (which I doubt because of the webpage thing) he must first recover those files, again, I doubt he has them since he could have started the program and remembered what he was doing.

Anyhow, maybe one of the old timers here that was an active miner at that time might have a flashback but the chances of getting those coins....



2615  Economy / Economics / Re: Does Japan fall behind in the crypto industry ? on: December 02, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
Even in this World Cup, Japan has defeated Germany and Spain, striving to the next level of competition.

And Ghana has defeated South Korea, does this make Ghana more technologically advanced in any field than SK?
Or more bitcoin-friendly?

they use to be leaders in the technology. Nokia was the first to have made the phones available to everyone. Japan was suppressed by a threatened empire.

Do you actually think that Nokia is a Japanese brand?
God, it's so funny to see all these experts in geopolitics and global economy casting their opinion when they don't know even basic stuff.

Anyhow, how does somebody define being in the first place in the crypto industry?
Have exchanges operating from your country? Then the Bahamas was a leading country till...a month ago!
Developing shit tokens that fail two months after launch?
What are the others criteria cause the two above really suck!?
2616  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Binance aml/kyc in the eu on: December 02, 2022, 02:40:04 PM
seems ridiculous and a massive invasion of privacy
That's what you choose when you sign up for a centralized exchange. If you would like to continue day trading, then look for an alternative exchange that isn't strict yet. Or you could use no KYC p2p exchanges (https://kycnot.me)

Almost all of those are instant exchanges, day trading with 0.5-1% fees on each trade would mean losing money for any trader or switching from day to weekly to allow at least a 3-5% swing to make a profit. People that day trade on major CEX with huge volumes can't sometimes wait for even one block confirmation before they buy or sell again.
Take one of those p2p rated 9/10, bets offer for me right now is 16620.37 EUR per BTC, and the spot price is 16,133.54, already losing 3%.

If you want to DCA or just cash in some profits after a good week yeah, but day trading, no way!

Do I need to do it, currently I am not buying btc or other coins on the platform but am day trading

Withdraw only should mean no trading also, otherwise what's actually blocked, only deposits?
I have my account also disabled but funny enough my card with ~2$ on it still worked as I bought for fun a bottle of Pepsi in the gas station.
Unfortunately, I can't test trade anymore since I don't hold even 1$ minimum to see if it still works.

2617  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The kind of hard disk to keep your bitcoin blockchain data on Laptop on: December 02, 2022, 03:09:01 AM
but, i heard research by Alvin Cox, JEDEC, that SSD drive is not safer to keep your data and will be lost in a couple of months if not turned on because SSD frive have limited life where different like HDD in general. so dwyor

What would be the point of running a full node on a separate if you think you might have to completely unpowered it for months at a time?
If you just plan on running it occasionally twice a year just use your usual dive and then get rid of the data till next year.

When SSD hard disk has technical problems, you will lose data in it forever because it is impossible to recover data stored in SSD. It is worse than HDD in data recovery and technical fixing.
If you want to store Bitcoin blockchain data, choosing HDD is better than SSD.

Blockchain data is available from thousands of nodes, there is nothing that is permanently lost because of a single drive failure, that's actually the sale point of a decentralized system, you lose the blockchain data on a failed drive you just put in a new one and resync from the network. Far easier than trying to recover it from a broken HDD.

Anyhow, just go with a standard 1 TB SSD like the EVO series from Samsung, it's $80 right now and you won't need more space this decade.

I don't know what is the maximum age for the SSD?. but when read that article, 2 years is the maximum reached. so this is very inconvenient when running the bitcoin wallet is limited at that time and moving to a new SSD when reached maximum after 2 years.

I bought my desktop SSD on 08.03.2018 according to the invoice in my email, HDD Sentinel says 1689 days and 15 hours of power on time, so, you can safely put 5 years minimum there.
2618  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Utilizing CPN's on: December 01, 2022, 05:50:48 PM
What use do they really have ?
None

Seems like possessing them isn't illegal, but just about anything you do with them is.

Of course, because you're using something that is not yours to deceive for financial gain. The pure definition of fraud.

All companies seem to not want to talk about this and try diverting you to credit repair services when inquiring.

Credit repair services are also mainly scams, there is no such thing as fixing a credit miraculously or erasing debt or bankruptcy by paying a few hundred dollars, a few legit ones can help you with errors in your history when you have proofs that data is wrong or with advice to check on dubious numbers that you didn't notice, nothing else, most of them are just as shady as those bitcoin recoveries or Instagram unban services.

Even if you find a way to legitimately build a CPN score up with tradelines what purpose can it legitimately serve?

It's impossible so it would've no use whatsoever since we're talking about theoretically growing something that is not accepted anywhere.
2619  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's freedom is Absolute! on: December 01, 2022, 05:00:01 PM
Hmm..Freedom makes you do whatever you want to do but it doesn't guarantee your safety when you disregard the purpose of freedom.

So does smoking, drinking, driving, and eating unhealthy. So, we should make a committee and decide that people should not be allowed to do anything that might be harmful to them and might have consequences?

We had another topic where someone was criticizing banks for not allowing him to deposits to a crypto exchange, by the same "protectionism" banks did a good thing since they didn't allow you to deposit money on an unlicensed exchange that requires you KYC and might run with you coins and sell your data!
Your keys, your coins, your decision, it might be stupid, in some cases it's really stupid but you can't force anyone to stop doing it.
If someone wants to trade his bitcoins for shitcoincash, should there be a law against it?  Wink

There will definitely be punishment for those use their freedom in Bitcoin space to harm others . They could be jailed, be fined, sent to mental hospital, even be enslaved, etc.

Hello, Sadolf Nakatler!
And here we go across the thin line where you suddenly want to turn people into slaves because they are not playing along with your view. At first is for punishment for criminals, then for the ones with a different opinion, then for the ones that don't do every single thing you ask them to. As always, from freedom advocates to tyrannically despotism it's just one tiny step, usually because somebody thinks he is smarter than the rest of the world and everyone else is dumb so he must follow his rule.

Being on bitcointalk and reading how we need to turn bad guys into slaves and send them to mental hospitals sure seems unreal.
2620  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: New tools allow obsolete 3gb GPU cards to find high Value BTC address priv key on: December 01, 2022, 03:41:04 PM
Given 1,000's of private keys per hours on each RTX-3080 ( 5,000 Billion * 300M BTC address compares per cycle ), even old 2gb GPU nvidia cards can do a 300M * 300M comps which is close to a trillion comps on each cycle, not uncommon to find one lost bitcoin address pair per day on a common GPU rack;

"Uncommon" is the chance of matching one of  40 million out of 2160 in a trillion tries, you know how many zeros after dot and zero that is?

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you got 10e36, divide that by 10e15, and you get 10e15
I'm pretty sure math doesn't work that way..

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that many seconds tells you how often you should have a hit in real time,

Just 316880878.14 Years, no biggie!

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