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3481  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CoinBase worse case on: June 25, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
I knew that there was something going on when 5 Korean exchanges decided to delist LTC after the MWEB upgrade, but I didn't know the regulations were this extreme. Do you have a link where I could read more about this?

There was a thread last December:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379194.msg58924690#msg58924690

This is a more in-depth description of the situation:
https://www.coinfirm.com/blog/south-korea-crypto-regulations/
I don't know-how up to date it is, I mentioned it a few months ago, so...
3482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another 5000 Miner BTC Sent To Binance- another dip? on: June 24, 2022, 07:24:41 PM
And while this halving stops miners from "draining" that much money it also halves the maximum possible security of the network.
So rather than that, I would say that the Bitcoin defense budget gets halved every 4 years.  Grin
Lol. The difficulty suggests otherwise.

Bruh common....
The difficulty alone as an indicator is meaningless when talking about security if you don't factor in the amount of money needed to overcome it.

At the start of 2017 the hash rate was 2Exa, was the network at that time 100 less secure than now?
At the start of 2015 the hashrate was 200Peta, was it 1000 weaker?

All that matter is the amount of money you must spend to overcome it,
A while after Bitmain released the S9 you would only need 300 000 machines for a 51%, at of 2000$ a piece at launch, 600 millions.
To do this now you would need 2 million S19, at a cost of 6000, 12 billion.That's only 20x. Price went from $500 to 20k that's 40x..... Hmm, a halving.  Wink
How many times do you think BTC will be able to do a 20x? <insert extrapolation joke here>

Or let's see it in BTC, you needed 1.2 million BTC, now you need 600k BTC

3483  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CoinBase worse case on: June 24, 2022, 05:59:13 PM
You can do that but you'll basically be linking your identity to your address and giving them access to all of your future transactions since you'll have to link your Coinbase wallet:

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In certain cases, we may require you to link a Coinbase Wallet to your main Coinbase account to send crypto assets off the Coinbase platform. This allows us to verify that you control the Coinbase Wallet that is receiving the crypto assets, which is a requirement under Dutch regulations.

But you already do this when you withdraw funds for yourself, as long as you buy coins from Coinbase somewhere down the road you will withdraw some funds, and that's the moment when you should really think of getting yourself a brand new wallet.

Anyhow, coinbase regulations are far easier to bypass than banking for example, if you want to send someone funds via a bank transfers the bank already knows everything about the other guy, and the only way to avoid it will be by withdrawing cash from the ATM and giving that in person, but if you're 1000km away...
Three problems I see with this garbage
- I don't know any addresses of my friends, I would have to ask them every time, even the ones that have only a house number on a street I never bothered to memorize
- The consequences of writing down by mistake that address, you type number 56, and the street comes with only 20, would you get your account frozen after an inquiry?
- Imagine your friend sends then the coins to some known shady address, like a darknet market, same as the above as your account gets flagged?

Also, this is still one step behind South Korea, where everyone needs to have the outgoing address approved by proving is owned by licensed exchanges that are enforcing KYC.
3484  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another 5000 Miner BTC Sent To Binance- another dip? on: June 24, 2022, 05:05:42 PM
I really don't know that information, but if you know how much BTC was sold to bring the price down to $17k feel free to share it Wink

Of course, I don't know the numbers but by telling on some information (that could be totally wrong), we could strat with the amount of bitcoins that have been sent extra to the cold hot wallets and cold wallets of exchanges during the drop, and the number shows only an increase of 100k in all coins stored on exchanges in the first two weeks of May (thanks Terra Angry )and a 70k uptick during the June drop. Of course, not all of these could have ended being sold and at the same time probably a lot that was stored there could have been the target of the sale, at the same time a lot of the accumulation of coins happened after the event when people were rushing coins there and on the same time a lot was rushing cash.

Anyhow, my point is that a lot underestimate what the instant liquidation of 5000 would have but hopefully this will never happen, as there is no point in it other than intentionally harming the market.

This is however what makes Bitcoin halvings so important: miners "drain" money out of the Bitcoin ecosystem by paying their hardware and electricity suppliers. Each halving means they have less Bitcoin to sell, which means this "drain" gets less every 4 years.

And while this halving stops miners from "draining" that much money it also halves the maximum possible security of the network.
So rather than that, I would say that the Bitcoin defense budget gets halved every 4 years.  Grin







3485  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CatChange.me Exchange Crypto to Fiat and vice versa on: June 24, 2022, 03:54:22 AM
First of all, disable that floating square effect, that thing is good for a kids toystore website, not for an exchange, 10 seconds and it's already annoying.

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The service is based in Europe and meets all legal claims.

So this usually means no company, no licenses, just one or two operators doing manual transfers from personal accounts. Since nowhere on that website is a company or an address or anything mentioned, am I right on this one?
3486  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-06-23] Bitcoin Struggles to Rebound as Miner Capitulation Continues on: June 24, 2022, 02:56:51 AM
It appears that bitcoin news media is trying very hard to create a storyline that there is a miner capitulation presently happening in the cryptospace.

Bitcoin news media has always been filled with a ton of garbage, now when there are thousands of them and funds are running low for advertising they are getting even more desperate with stupid titles to gain an audience.

Capitulation would mean miners would stop their machines  before a complete liquidation of their business, but any moron who would find free seconds free to look at a difficulty/hashrate chart would see there is no such thing as a capitulation, no major shutdown no nothing!  Actually, quite ironically, the hashrate estimation for the current period is up, it is indeed still early as only one day and a half has passed but the pace is still faster, at 101% compared to the previous. Mining profitability is still 20% up from the levels at the end of 2020 levels, there won't be any major shake-up unless we dip in the 15k range, but complete capitulation won't happen.




3487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Grocery Stores In U.S Set To Install Bitcoin ATM on: June 24, 2022, 02:14:08 AM
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New Bitcoin ATMs are set to be installed in 59 Latino grocery stores

The guys from watcher guru as pretty lazy with those tweets, would it have been that hard to mention the actual name of the stores?
https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/06/g27811230/coin-cloud-brings-always-fresh-always-authentic-digital-currency-machines-dcms-to-cardenas-markets

I wonder why a lot of crypto news blogs are focusing on Shiba Inu, the press release says:
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Operating 59 stores in three states, including California, Arizona and Nevada, Cardenas Markets' customers will have access to Coin Cloud's DCMs to buy and sell Bitcoin, Ethereum and over 40 other digital currencies with cash.
so Shiba Inu is in "others". How much are some of those guys getting paid to pump these tokens?

Roger ver installed a few bitcoin cash ATMs in the Caribbean too. I know how this forum feels about roger Ver, but that was a smart step. Bitcoin ATMs provide a convenient and user-friendly way for people to buy and sell cryptocurrencies.

Roger Ver is a sorry piece of %$%# and he is not doing anything for BTC , I wouldn't be surprised if his ATMs would sell you fake bitcoins (BCH) instead of BTC.
LE: Just as I was saying
https://beincrypto.com/roger-ver-unveils-ambiguous-very-first-bitcoin-cash-only-atm/
3488  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase vs. Coinbase Pro on: June 23, 2022, 09:55:02 PM
If so, how much would I be saving in dollars and cents?

Coinbase has a shitty system for the direct buy option on the basic version, so the only way to exactly know this is to actually try it, they have a fee that is based on the spread which can vary quite a bit, up to 2% as they admit, so you might end up paying over 200$ just from that, and also another fee if you use a cc card for that purchase, ACH deposits are free.

So the best way to know for sure is to open the account and see for yourself.

LE:
Since I see you're from NY, then you're really low on cheap options, Gemini is not that cheaper either and I think the only option would be Bitstamp.


3489  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another 5000 Miner BTC Sent To Binance- another dip? on: June 23, 2022, 08:12:13 PM
Another one? Or it's the same bitfarms?
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/06/21/miner-bitfarms-sold-almost-half-its-bitcoin-to-reduce-debt/

Does 5000 BTC mean something in a market that had a volume of just under $29 billion in 24 hours - which would be about 1.4 million BTC? I would say it's a drop in the ocean that shouldn't change anything, although most need very little to panic..

If 5k is a drop in the ocean, then how many bitcoins have been sold on top of the usual trade volume to crash the price from 30k to 17k?
5 million?  Grin
That volume made by bots trading 100 satoshis 300 times per minute is not something you can rely on, the only thing that could make things clear on the scale of the impact if we would know the amount of $ that is sent and withdrawn each day from those exchanges, knowing so what cushion we have that might offset a large sale.

Miners can only sell what they mine, and according to the current reward, a total of about 27 000 BTC (900 per day) can be mined in 1 month.

Some miners have also purchased bitcoins, including the above-mentioned bitfarms or Mara who has also purchased 6000 coins through a subsidiary, or others who had received tons of money from the investors but since every single piece of gear was sold one year in advance they decided to invest some of the cash in BTC.
Everyone was focused on Salvador but mining companies in the US have bought 10 times more than them.

3490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A police officer (ASP) in Bangladesh was detected as crypto investor on: June 23, 2022, 07:18:36 PM
It's funny to see a police officer who was supposed to working as per the law, has recently been detected as a cryptocurrency investor.

I would have been surprised if nobody in the police would have owned any cryptos.
I've said it before all the bans and regulations are one thing, the one that matters is how much the authority wants to actually enforce it, just like traffic rules all over the world, every single country has those, and how many get tickets for breaking it in some of those?

As for him being a police officer, back in the 90s' when everything was seemingly turning worse and worse police around here were doing everything and I'm not saying taking bribes or asking for them, but a lot have been caught stealing from stores, stealing wallets at accident locations and even more, I even remember one case when they went on a property for investigation of a thief nearby and on their way back they picked a bike laying around and stuff it in their trunk. Probably Bangladesh even in is in a worse situation than we were back then so, just investing in crypto is something minor.

That being said....
https://mobile.twitter.com/sagor30/
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This account doesn’t exist

This raises questions....


3491  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Iran to cut electricity to licenced Miners on: June 23, 2022, 07:05:16 PM
Take a look at the chart below. The mean hash rate is at all time highs and surging quite rapidly while the price is having a downturn. The recent drop in hashrate might be caused by mining farms who are forced to cease operations as they can't cover their expenses.

So how is the Hashrate at an all-time high and surging rapidly when it is going down?

The ATH was on May 11th, I'm not talking about random daily spikes which hold no mining as they could look different by simply changing the time when the day begins, EST, GMT, PST but about difficulty adjustments, it was at 223.70, the last adjustment brought it down again to 211.63 so that is a -5.39% from an ATH more than a month ago.
And the current trend is also down although again a slight variation, of just 1% now.

So the numbers might be right, just as everyone was surprised when it happened to Kazasctahn, seems like Iran is also in the 1% of overall hashrate with a +/- 1% error margin.

That's really a high contribution considering there are only a few miners out there as a whole and I wasn't aware Iran has that huge number of miners.

What, 0.12% of the total?
If they had 5% it would've been instantly shown even in the last adjustment but it's not the case.
So basically no news, or on the same level as Madagascar banning it.


3492  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoiners are protecting, while EU nations are destroying the environment on: June 23, 2022, 06:50:56 PM
Sorry but this is stupid!

Using simple logic, if Bitcoiners are using 100Twh of green energy it simple means somebody else has to use dirty energy, if they shut down 100 Twh a year operation using renewables it would mean 100 Thw renewables would be available and 100Twh of dirty energy could be shut down as it would not be needed anymore.

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According to the Bitcoin Mining Council , the worldwide Bitcoin mining sector is being powered by an estimated 58.5 per cent renewable energy by the fourth quarter of 2021.  Its now very clear that Bitcoiners are now more environmntal friendly than EU.

Yet when asked where their mix comes from, real details, ...crickets.
When New York says they will stop granting licenses to miners mining on non-renewables look what the Blockchain association said:
https://twitter.com/jchervinsky/status/1533493490562236416

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It will not help reduce carbon emissions by a single ounce.
All it does is push miners to build in other places where NY has no influence over them.

So why would those eco-friendly green rainbow-powered miners build in other places? Because the truth is that:
Coal is the cheapest form of energy, then hydro, then nuclear, then gas and no nobody is mining by relying on a giant ball of fire in the sky!
And miners, and I'm speaking as one will only care about that, miners are a business, they either make a profit or they go bankrupt, they are not here to save the world or anything else!

3493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Avalanche launch bridge of native bitcoin to defi platform on: June 23, 2022, 06:43:20 AM
Wherein users or holders of native btc can nridge their holdings to avax defi and let them experience defi ecosystem on avalanche platform.
~
 Whats your thought on this?

Instantly thought of :
Is TERRA/Luna kickstarting a new Bitcoin Standard?

Let's see how long this has before it goes down.

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This enables Bitcoin holders to directly access extensive earning and yield opportunities on top DeFi protocols, while still maintaining BTC on their portfolio.
Aham
- extensive earnings
- yield opportunities
- top Defi protocols
- portfolio, not control!

Avalanche is better because they are founder of an Avax ecosystem and DeFi on Avax is one part of their ecosystem. If DeFi die (they will not because best and strongest DeFi projects will not die), Avalanche will still be fine.

We're talking about the same coin with the same features as others that just like many others has lost 90% in 7 months, right?
3494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is E-DeFi , and How it could help Crypto Community in Time of Dip on: June 23, 2022, 06:11:29 AM
I do not know why someone would choose 'E-DeFi', which I already assume is either centralized, has a single point of failure or is decentralized on a centralized chain, over other actually peer to peer and fully decentralized tools like BTCPay.  I personally would not.

Don't bother to look to deep into this...
The article is not about whatever eDefi it's just publicity for coinbaazar(dot)com that has a habit of spamming the forum with articles to promote their crappy exchange, seems like now they have found a new way of doing so, shilling for that with fake newbies accounts didn't get them anywhere, neither did fake video reviews and edited videos about their promos

Just check the user's post history
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3254131;sa=showPosts
3495  Economy / Economics / Re: The end of the Pay to Play blockchain games hype? on: June 23, 2022, 05:48:08 AM
If the P2E movement is dead. I would guess developers have not received the memo considering new P2E games like psyber X and metarun are currently being built on unreal engine 5.

And? Just because they develop some games does it mean it will be a success?
Metarun, let's see...
0 Info about the game, 10 tons of staking, buy $MRUN, buy NFT, and the game itself, a run for coins game that looks like a hundred thousand others on google play?
Seriously, that's your example of a good game?

A niche market that doesn't involve multi million dollars of investment to produce triple A titles solves too many problems for developers to be ignored.

Of course, it solves the problem, it solves the problem of making millions while selling a cheap crap game that you could have played for free on Steam.
It also solves another problem for gamers, fewer numbers in your bank account to even care to check it anymore.
3496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China warns Bitcoin is heading to zero on: June 23, 2022, 05:31:11 AM
The Economic Daily report says the west is to blame for creating a highly-leveraged market that is “full of manipulation and pseudo-technology concepts” which it said was an “important external factor” which contributes to Bitcoin’s volatility.

I love it! I already know some will be foaming at the mouth but for China to say that Bitcoin and the Crypto market is a western creation and heavily influenced by the western market is music to my ears, the moment someone accuses a thing of being under the western influence is the moment you an know for sure they are scared shit of it. The sooner they cut every single forgotten thread linked to bitcoin the better, let them deal with their own non-leveraged not manipulated not Evergrande markets, and with their own advanced technology that made the leader of 5G communication unable to make a 5G phone.

Not gonna lie — they totally sucked at FUDding on this one. They could've probably used something that could convince the normies far easier such as the "quantum computing will break Bitcoin's security" or something like that.

It's not about throwing FUD at bitcoin, it's the usual CCP propaganda as the original was published in the official paper of the Central Committee, thias is like 10 times worse than Pravda, their aim was another jab at the US

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The lack of regulation in Western countries, such as the United States, helped create a highly-leveraged market that is “full of manipulation and pseudo-technology concepts”. Tightening monetary policies in Western economies have led to a global sell-off of a range of risk-laden assets, including cryptocurrencies, while a growing number of crypto lending platforms, hedge funds and stablecoin issuers are now mired in financial distress, cryptocurrency trading and speculation severely endanger people’s “property security”, breed criminal activities and disrupt financial order.

The usual propaganda from back in the 80s, the corrupt western world is falling apart, the fact that they don't stand in queues for a loaf of bread shows how unhealthy, undisciplined they are and how they lack the moral duty of starving for the motherland  Cheesy
3497  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2022-06-17] Bitcoin mining becomes unprofitable as BTC price falls on: June 23, 2022, 05:11:53 AM
It might...
That's the problem. You can't run a business based on speculation. IRL, you can't go to the bank to borrow money while saying to the banker "my business idea will maybe work" They want something sure and are well trained to evaluate the risks.
Even if the client has collateral, they consider it as a +1 point, but that doesn't make it bulletproof

When it comes to traditional business and banks, yeah, that's the rule.
Unfortunately for me as I don't have those advantages, and fortunately for bitcoin's security when it comes to this business you can get a lot of investors that would throw money at you without a real plan on the paper, not even mentioning a fully running business with yearly contracts with a stash of coins set aside, they will get the money, and once you secured a bit, taking into account that the gear is already paid, the only expenses are electricity and rent you can keep it one for a while mining at a tiny loss. Not even mentioning the outrageous cheap rates some of these big guys have for power.

@stompix. Also, if mining is really unprofitable for the biggest miners, they can get a loan in fiat against their bitcoins, mining hardware and other assets to use for their cashflow and business expenses while waiting for the market to improve again.This bear market might be overestimated and in reality it might end sooner than speculated.

As I said above, from banks they will get the same answer as shale oil a few years ago, no cash for you!
For the bear market thing, well, bitcoin going back to 30k and even 40k won't be that much of a relief for miners, a lot of hashrate is already ordered so if the price goes up it will get plugged in rising difficulty diminishing revenue, for let's say good times, not extraordinary good like back last year in April, we would need around 60k at same difficulty.
24 cents instead of 8 per TH/s, an s19 making 24$ a day, burning 8$ at 10cents/kwh, ROI in a year and something, all numbers rounded up to make it easier.
3498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It’s clear that the Nigerian Government cannot stop Bitcoin on: June 23, 2022, 03:45:50 AM
The firm stated that Nigerians traded at least N77.75bn ($185m) worth of Bitcoin in the first three months of this year, which is a 5.71 per cent increase from the N73.54bn worth of Bitcoin that was traded in the corresponding period of 2021.  

Isn't that 185 million in 90 days, 2 million a day, or about 25 times lower than just the EUR/BTC pair on Kraken for example?

A country that is ravaged by inflation, unemployment and high cost of financial transactions and Bitcoin directly or indirectly assists most young Nigerians to minimize the impact of these challenges.

Can you please describe how an asset that is losing value is helping somebody minimize the effects of inflation and unemployment cause it realizes puzzles me!
Oh and if you think that by trading on Paxum, it simply means you're making money by selling coins at a premium, so, basically you're taking money from somebody else who will have to deal with the loss until the market grows, which ain't happening right now.
3499  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Over-Speeding Kills, Always Slow Down When Driving A Car on: June 23, 2022, 03:31:17 AM
I can understand speaking on the phone if you're stuck in traffic as you don't need fast reflexes while not moving, when you have an automatic you don't need the right hand,  but seriously driving and looking at the screen of your smartphone and copy-pasting addresses and sending coins? 800$ might be much for some people, but getting a ticket for that here would be at least one-third of that sum, if you get involved in an accident the insurance won't cover it, you might spend 10 times on preparing the other guy's car, let's not even mention if you hit a pedestrian or you crash into another car and you kill somebody.

It takes 5 mins to pull to the side of the road into free space or a parking lot and do that safely and without a rush, then you can go and finish your trip, what are 5 minutes going to change?

Anyhow, even if he doesn't remember the address to which he sent the money he can check the blockchain and see when that address got any funds from his own addresses, once he has the date he can go through emails, WhatsApp, telegram, browser logs and find out what he had done that day and who's the owner.
I don't think there is any country in this world that doesn't punish the usage and misappropriation of funds since they were sent by mistake, taking 10x more out of an ATM, sending money that by mistake was deposited in your bank account by a stranger, every single one of those is a crime, here this thing is punishable by up to 5 years, so if your friend knows who owns that address he can talk to them and if they aren't cooperative he can file a report with the police. I don't see how somebody that can be tracked easily based on past interactions would risk that for so little.
3500  Other / Archival / Re: Are you ready to see Bitcoin at $10 000? on: June 22, 2022, 09:49:38 PM
Are you ready to see $10,000 Bitcoin this year or early next year?

Hmm, I'm living on the second floor, and just right in front I've planted a few lilac trees that will cushion the jump, I don't have any drugs and pills other than some aspirin and some from indigestion (small kid in the house so we avoid storing these), no rope, no soap, no gun permit...really not prepared.
But, there are 874 job openings around me as I browse the section now, including at the bitcoin's most beloved fast-food chain Mcdonald's, so bring it on!  Grin

But those same people have apparently never analyzed bitcoin historical data..In this capitulation event, bitcoin only fell (I don't know if it's appropriate to say this when it comes to such a loss in value Smiley) by 73%.

Statistics or percentages, you can play with them how you want depending on what you want to achieve.

For example, Bitcoin dropped from $32 to $2, in that drop $210 million in possible wealth turned into $14 million, right now, well, just $900 billion evaporated from the Lambo dreams. A rough math says something like ~5000x more theoretical profits gone? Grin  So, which one was worse?

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