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3521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the hell is NANOX and why is it worth 229 BTC on: April 25, 2017, 05:56:46 AM
That's why people need to exchange coins that are actually going to get decent liquidity.

I could pick any one of the completely terrible coins at YoBit, sell them to myself for a couple of hundred Bitcoin, and suddenly that's the normal price that other people would buy at.  There's just no real consistency on there.

you do realize that on an exchange platform, for every trade that you do, you have to pay a percentage based fee. this means if you do what you said (a couple of hundred bitcoin) you will have to also pay a lot of fees.

From the picture, all the NANOX bought were with a tiny amount fake orders placed by yobit itself not their users, but the sells were with at least 0,0001 NANOX, as told to you in the popup. I guess this is the reason why you can not sell your stake.

Fixed That For Ya.
if you look closely you can see orders 20 times smaller than mine taking place on yobit so technically speaking i should have been able to make a successful order on a fair exchange platform.

without buy how i can get nanox coin
can get mining or not, or 100% coin control from dev
i think is shitcoin, after dev collect much bitcoin can dump until 1 satoshi/coin

don't let the high fake price fool you into wasting your time.
3522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1 in a million on: April 25, 2017, 05:49:13 AM
-snip-
That's why people get involved in alts. You can be a lot bigger than one in a million for a lot less.   

Although the alt scene is getting saturated. At the current rate of production I project we should reach 1 million different alt coin projects by 2023 (or 2019 if you include waves tokens  Cheesy)

no, not for that, people jump on the various altcoin, just to gain more bitcoin, no one really care about them, you don't see people running around claiming that they will use one of those coins in the future

actually that is a good point and i think it is somewhat true too.
many people have this false way of thinking that since bitcoin went from 0 to a thousand, then an altcoin can to the same too. so they jump in and invest their money in the hopes of making a thousand dollar profit on each coin they buy.
i have to admit that in the early days i also thought like this. there are many interesting projects out there and they get hyped up enough to make you think all kinds of crazy things, but behind the curtains they are all for short term pump and dump and profit.
3523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What the hell is NANOX and why is it worth 229 BTC on: April 24, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
Wow! Where can we earn this nanox?Cheesy

i found something here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850419.0 make sure to read the feedback of the topic starter.
and this whole things stinks of a big scam, and it is no surprise that Yobit is involved once again in another shady scam! that 0.00000020 NANOX, in case anyone was wondering, was found on the free coins section of it and that is another scam, they give this small amounts to force you to want to buy something in order to be able to sell that by reaching the minimal amount but you never will be able to sell it since nobody is willing to buy it from you and orders are fake anyways.
3524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What the hell is NANOX and why is it worth 229 BTC on: April 24, 2017, 05:49:31 AM
here is where (the only place) you can find it: https://yobit.net/en/trade/NANOX/BTC  Shocked

no wonder! the fake orders are already in from YOBIT itself.
and the funny part is that it doesn't allow me to sell my 0.00000020 at 800BTC but the history shows a lot of 0.00000001 NANOX are sold at 199BTC

P.S. Yobit is the source of my amusement sometimes.

3525  Economy / Speculation / Re: People selling alts to go back in BTC on: April 24, 2017, 05:42:15 AM
It was very horrible, if the Bitcoin whales take advantage from newbie with a fake pump.
Do you know the signs or characteristics of a fake pump ? So all of us to be vigilant and cautious in trading.

Just check the market capitalization of the altcoins and then compare the number of users each of these coins are having. If an altcoin which is having less than 10,000 users is achieving a market capitalization of $500 million, then the possibility is that it is a fake pump.
Market capital of altcoins too cannot be considered as a fake volume, because every bitcoin user will be holding few number of altcoins due to the decreased price. This serves to get hold of good capital market. I believe fake pumps were created during the start of the project to make good value for the token. Later on only the user increase helps the capital increase.

not true at all.
only traders hold altcoins, and that is only because they are trading those altcoins to make profit and not every bitcoin user is a trader, nor are willing to risk their money and bitcoin on something too risky such as altcoins.
i believe you are speaking from watching things from afar. if you get your hands dirty with some trades and some watching of the market, you can see things aren't so hunky dory as you think they are. there is a lot of manipulation in altcoin market and most people are losing money until they either get better at noticing these things or give up trying.
3526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stable BitCoin on: April 24, 2017, 05:36:54 AM
So we've all seen people saying bitcoin should be more stable with its value and that can actually lead more people into bitcoin world.
But I've not seen this question being asked or answered as of yet, "How can bitcoin be more stable?"
What factors play role in that, and is it actually possible?

more resistance while going in both directions!
that means there should be a lot more adoption, a lot more users and the exchanges have to grow quite a bit. not just have such a thin orderbook which can be dumped into or bought to push the price up with a couple of thousands of dollars. and there needs to be more exchanges just as big, spread around and disconnected from each other.
and yes it is possible, and it is happening. you can compare the days of Mt Gox with 75% of volume with nowadays with exchanges having barely 10% of trading volume.
3527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: April 23, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
there is no fool proof answer to this question. it is all speculation.
the risks are there but in my opinion price going down in long term has a  very small chance. but in short term because of some stuff that are going on can go down but i won't last long.

but there is another risk that people usually forget, when you are using bitcoin you are in charge of keeping your private keys (your wallet) safe. and if you fail to do that, you will lose your money. this risk is easily manageable though, since you can learn how to make a safe wallet (read about cold storage) and never worry about this risk.
3528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to find safety in a hard fork? on: April 23, 2017, 06:10:58 AM
just Hodl and dont transact in Bitcoin until things are clear.  Are you able to do that?

Thanks Jon, the question is where to hodl.
what do you mean "where"? bitcoin is not a physical thing to hold it somewhere, you only need private keys to spend transactions that are already on the blockchain and belong to your key.
and this means hold those private keys. unless by where you mean where to hold those private keys? in which case the answer is in any wallet that you control the private keys, such as paper wallet, any desktop wallet such as Core, Electrum,... and NOT on third party services that don't give you control over private keys such as Coinbase or any exchange service.

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hard fork does not mean automatic split.

even going soft fork can end up as a split.

What??? So it's definitely going to result in a split.

I'm glad i asked the question (even if it has been asked before) because it seems like a lot of ppl din't even know what the consequences are going to be, like what possible outcomes exist. Is thing really that confusing to so many?

a split only happens if there were no consensus.
there has been at least one hard fork in bitcoin and since it was done a long time ago and it was done with overwhelming majority supporting the fork, no split happened. the same thing is still true.
3529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Digital Currencies Classical Highs on: April 23, 2017, 06:03:41 AM
Bitcoin’s volume-weighted pricetag on the Bitstamp exchange rose 24.4% in the 4 weeks of February. Year-to-date, bitcoin has treasured 23.9%. An investment 12 months ago would definitely return 2.7 times one’s investment

It is correct that we had a massive bull run in the last 12 months. But you are looking at a time frame which suits you.
For it to be a remarkable investment, you must look at multiple 12 month periods, including the drop 3 years ago.

the 3 years ago drop that you are talking about is just a drop out of a bubble, and it was not even the first price bubble! there have been as big price bubbles as that one before but since it was along the highest price and also the scam exit of MtGox, everyone remembers that and they keep mentioning it.
the same rise meaning a big % rise then a big drop has happened before and then from 2013 onward bubbles have also been happening but at smaller % so they usually go unnoticed or called as whales dumping.
3530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Opinion about my holdings. on: April 23, 2017, 05:56:48 AM
i mostly disagree with your Ripple investment decision since i smell a lot of dump in the future of it. simply because there is no reason for this coin which has been worth 700ish satoshi to be worth 2700+ satoshi.

also i agree with your ETH decision since i also smell a dump and it is overpriced right now. however i will keep an eye on two things: bitcoin price that if it continues going up i will stay far away from ETH but if it drops i will most probably invest in ETH to take profit from its pump. also i will keep a lookout on what they release, they may wait for a big dump first then release something new though. but when they do, they will follow it with a pump.

also PIVX that you mentioned is good but not at the moment apparently. it is dropping but there is good resistance. i will look for a bottom to get in.

and obviously Litecoin is the hot topic everyone talks about and that alone means rise Cheesy
apart from that SegWit is coming and Chicken is going to the moon, in $50-$100 territory. 
3531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: I have my pockets full of LTC and my home boys do too! on: April 23, 2017, 05:48:26 AM
I bouught at $6.60, wish I would have bought when it was $4.00. I know a lot of people sold off a few days ago, because the signalling was going down, but things have changed in the last few days. I actually, held my breath and held. I am glad I did.

actually selling a couple of days ago was a great idea, because if we are talking about trading (which most of us are) the high price of 0.0108BTC was an excellent point to sell and wait out the dump because of the stopping of SegWit and then buy back at the bottom (0.0083BTC or anywhere up to 0.009BTC) because that would have meant a profit no matter what because of simple bounce back.

and then after buying back, you keep a look out and since SegWit starts again you cancel sell orders and place them higher.

if you ask me i say LTC will go to 0.03BTC very soon but in my opinion just buying and holding and hoping the price goes up is not a good idea in any altcoin. you need to have clear targets and take advantage of the profit waiting there for you to take it.
3532  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one is better? Forex or crypto currency trading? on: April 22, 2017, 06:38:19 AM
if you know trading as much as to call yourself professional, then it doesn't matter what you trade as long as you are making profit. and in cryptocurrency trading there are a lot of profits to be made, you can always make profit in Forex for sure but you will never ever in a million years find a pump there for example from $4 to $11 in 2 days! or $50 to $101 and so on. and these are all big and short term profit waiting to be collected.
3533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Beware of this Pump Group on: April 22, 2017, 06:21:42 AM
i know it is a harsh thing to say but They Deserved It.
that is what you get for being a sheep. sheep is just moving in a herd following other sheeps led by a wolf (for the sake of the argument Wink)
nobody in the whole world is going to give good advice to others when it is money related and he himself has money at stake. obviously they will show an illusion of good advice while the sheep people throw themselves in the pit, the pumper is just sitting there watching and laughing at them while they are handing their money to him with a thankful smile on their lips...
3534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best way to hold many cryptocurrencies on: April 22, 2017, 06:15:31 AM
What I meant was if there's an easier way to do it.... For instance I own some Blocknet (BLOCK) tokens which I want to add from the exchange to my own wallet. But the synchronization is taking me DAYS to do, do I need to do this? I dont understand it.
No. You don't need to wait for it synchronise to receive money. Generate a new address and send your Block from the exchange to that address. Note, you won't actually SEE it appear in the wallet until synchronisation on your local machine is complete, but it will be in there.

it is not just receiving you know. you should think ahead about "spending" too. and for that you do need to wait to synch and download the whole blockchain to be able to see the balance, make the transaction and spend it, unless a particular coin is using a different particular approach, that is the way.

however, with bitcoin you can always find ways of generating just a cold wallet like paper wallet and never even need a wallet. for example you can use online tools such as coinbin to make a tx and sign in with an offline wallet.

technically if you can do the same with any other crypto you can choose this method only if their wallets allow signing of raw tx offline without having the blockchain. and then again you will have to find a way of broadcasting it. which may seem simple but it is hard without any tools.
3535  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation Rule: buy when others are irrationally pessimistic or too cautious on: April 22, 2017, 06:01:13 AM
when you literary speculate everything and then change it every couple of hours it is obvious that you are always seemingly right.

there are only 3 possibilities after all: Up, Down, No change. you take two and post a 50-50 speculation then say a different thing in a short while. then go back and either delete the wrong one or bury it under a lot of "words" which makes it hidden and a headache to read.
i'll say nice tactic but the question is what is he trying to achieve?
3536  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂ 50% affiliation promotion NOW Biggest trafic on: April 22, 2017, 05:48:49 AM

Man, this is such an amazing promo and to think that this will run for 4 weeks. Unfortunately, I don't have any referrals for the site. As for those who have and especially for those who referred high rollers, good luck and make some good profit in the coming weeks. Things like these attract more players to the website and this is a very good move on part of the Bitsler management. Hoping more of these in the coming months.  Grin

This promotion will not attract players more but it will encourage site promoters to bring more players to the site. So many people try their best to post links in all over the social media and automatically site will become very popular in the gambling industry. It is a very good thinking by admin and I too don't have any referral to this site yet.

well, it is always a two way street.
when the site (service) respects its customers and is always trying their best to provide them with the best services and keep them satisfied, then obviously more customers will come and the existing customers will stay and obviously the site (service) makes more profit.
and then as they earn more profit they can give more promotions and better services and then the same circle continues.
that is like the first and most effective thing any successful business has ever done.
3537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin price so much higher on Bitfinex? on: April 21, 2017, 06:05:25 AM
Because it is currently very hard to get your currency (USD for example) out of Bitfinex due to some issues with their banking relationship.  This leads to increased pressure to BUY Bitcoins in order to move the Bitcoins of of the Bitfinex platform.  Since there is extra pressure to buy the price goes up.
Yeaaa just like huobi and any other chinese exchange that have a trouble on withdrawing the money out.
Not always leads to to increase i guess , huobi and btcchina has the lowest rate right now because of regulation issue.
I don't know exactly , am i missing something or what?

you can't compare the two situations.
Chinese exchanges have closed down EVERYTHING. and they did it themselves based on what PBoC demanded from them.

bitfinex is different because their bank in Taiwan is blocking their wire transfers and that is affecting most of their fiat transfers. you can still use HKD and CHF to withdraw, also they are opening a way to give a temporary one time withdrawals chance to anyone who wishes to withdraw fiat[1] and also there is still deposit and withdrawals of cryptocurrencies (which has been working fine) and they have a couple of them including bitcoin and litecoin. and because of this last part people use (not-withdraw-able) fiat to buy crypto (mostly bitcoin) and withdraw that bitcoin.

[1] https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/201
3538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XRP Insight: Is breakout close? FTW? on: April 21, 2017, 05:57:21 AM
since you keep posting tradingview links, i have one question for you:
do you honestly think technical analysis works for altcoins?
3539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Next big thing? on: April 21, 2017, 05:49:54 AM
What do we really need from an altcoins, what is the next big thing?
We have anoncoin, platforms for trading and smart contracts, tokens..
Where are we heading?
Bitcoin was something completely new, can we expect another one?

we need "developers" not "business men".
and right now we have the later.
bitcoin is successful because it was made by a developer who wasn't looking to make money, you can see that after 8 years Satoshi coins has not yet moved and possibly will never move in the foreseeable future.

can you say the same thing for any of the altcoins? not at all.
ETH that everybody praise, has Vitalik who dumped a massive load on the first pump and as soon as the dumping began and took out a couple of million dollars out. and that was only 25% of his personal stash.

the rest of the altcoins are the same. they are made with one thing in mind and that one thing is "how to make more money out of it".

and as long as this is the mentality, nobody in the market will treat altcoins more than a pump and dump.
3540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Take profits now! on: April 21, 2017, 05:45:10 AM
topics like these are a lesson, a lesson in speculation that people around these parts are full of it.
the day you place your trust on what you read online and by a random user who goes offline after throwing a "speculation" or better call it a shot in the dark and then others join in and make guesses of -30% drops, that day is the day you start losing money.
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