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3581  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the golden rule of investment? on: June 01, 2022, 03:59:58 PM
The golden rule of investing is that there are so many golden rules at one point you're going to inevitably break one of them.
Don't invest more than you can afford to lose, diversify our portfolio, set goals, don't set high goals, don't follow the crowd, do the opposite of what the crowd does, kill the crowd..just lol.

I love how everyone is giving advice but let's look at the reality.
Diversify your portfolio, what does that mean for your average crypto Joe?
Buy 20% BTC and the rest in shitcoins, well, that's not diversifying, it's like buying both Exxon and Shell shares!
Don't put all your eggs in one basket! Again, lol!
What's the common trend here, put all your money in crypto because not any other investment will be that safe or profitable!

Common, everyone here is breaking rules after rules, let's just be honest with ourselves.
Everyone is pointing fingers at Luna while praising other coins, if Ethereum crashes tomorrow there will be full of people who would say I told you so, I know it, and they come with tons of arguments they hadn't had the courage to say once before!

I was in a situation where I felt responsible for someone losing money because of my advice, so even though I wasn’t directly to blame for someone behaving irresponsibly, I paid damages out of my own pocket and learned an important life lesson.

One of the guys I played online games with has bought some eth from an atm, stored on god knows what wallet, when after a year it hits 600$ per coin he tried two times to learn how to open an account, send those coins, etc, etc, never managed.
I told him I would buy those from him if he's that desperate to sell and pestering me each day about docs banks taxes, but since it was a 30 km drive and bad weather day after day he said fuck, he'll keep them. One year later he sold at $3500.

Sometimes it's better not to help people! Grin
I always make fun of him when he is in trouble in the game, I'm not going to help you, I bet it's going to be better for you if I don't!
3582  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Ruble Surpasses Brazil’s Real as Year’s Best-Performing Currency on: June 01, 2022, 03:33:46 PM
It's a never-ending surprise how easily the attitude of people changes and they forget where we are, on bitcointalk.
Suddenly everyone forgets all their hate about fiat money, forgets about control, forgets about priting money and cheers the most dictatorial system in the world just because they want to take Russia's side.
You have currency control, you have banks restricting your access to your money, you have the government forcing you to convert your own money again with a choice but no, let's cheer this move because what Russia does it's so great!

Seriously, if Russia is such a  powerhouse of an economy, if the ruble is backed by billions in oil and gas, why are your people here and talking about bitcoin, why don't you invest in the ruble and be done with it?

It looks like you do not understand the essence of the problem that is now facing the Central Bank of Russia. He now needs not to strengthen the ruble, but rather weaken it

So why aren't they allowing people to buy $ at that exchange rate, that for sure would weaken the currency...oh ..wait..a fake problem, just how everything about the ruble is fake.

Monthly volumes are now more than $4 billion, and this is one of the most significant challenges USD has faced till date in international trade.

You might want to check the euro-usd volume, it's not in months but days and not billions but trillions. Challenge my ass.
Oh btw, don't forget, one month has either 30 or 31 days if we exclude February, it never has 40!

3583  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for contacts for miners on the run from china on: June 01, 2022, 10:48:10 AM
Hi BitMaxz! here is the thing, the company is starting their To C business line which new audiences need to be reached. The answer why the telegram didn't show up on Canaan.io is to avoid business duplication with traditional channel, and to create customized online shopping services.

I call this bs!
Why would Cannan use two newbies accounts spamming unrelated topics with their replies about the shop?
And yeah, I'm pretty sure banban007s4 is your alt, using the same text in his posts, fortunately getting deleted as we speak.

So I think you are trying to steal their customers through telegram and scam them?

I don't have the time or the patience to try and see what goes there but I'm betting on some shady p2p discount that will never materialize too.


 
3584  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies and eagerness lack of patience on: June 01, 2022, 10:24:56 AM
Looking at your post history, you should definitely listen your own advice and be more patient. In barely a month since you created this account you managed to open 30 topics. On top of that, you are basically a newbie as well, so giving advice to other newbies look more like a merit fishing attempt to me.

It's clearly merit fishing, I knew from the first line that this whole paragraph is going to be one long text that is actually worth nothing, and clicking on op's profile, yeah, what a non-surprise.

Leaving this case aside, I'm seriously getting bored with all these topics about motivation and advice, when I enter some section it feels like I'm in some sort of center for groups therapy, this cheesy text that simply looks so damn fake, these advice everyone is giving about patience about self-fulfillment knowing nobody, not even the ones who write them are eager to follow.

How about less talk and more action?  Grin



3585  Economy / Economics / Re: Food crisis coming? What's wrong about it? It could be good on: June 01, 2022, 08:21:07 AM
So you are indirectly saying that the people from the poor countries should starve to death?
~
The crisis is coming and some are better prepared than the others but that does not mean that you can ignore the plight of the other side, decreasing the population inevitably is important but how we can do is by family planning, education, not natural selection.

No, we're telling and we have been telling a lot of countries to not make the mistakes we have done in the past, but when we're stating facts we're seen as evil white supremacists that have some diabolical plan for Africa. Europe has been through centuries of famine, with millions of deaths and episodes of cannibalism, because we were doing the same mistake African countries are doing now, giving birth to 7 children without knowing how much food we're going to have the next year.

And further down look at the math, Europe had during the middle ages 70 million people at the peak, Africa had nearly the same in 1800, the EU has grown to 500 million and had the newest technology when it comes to agriculture, Africa has 1.2 billion and has less than 15% of it mechanized.

Who is going to feed all this unless they do it themselves?
Where is the food going to come in countries like Niger which are on the path of doubling the population every 18 years?
It's not like telling poor countries they should starve to death, it's telling them they are going to starve to death if they don't change!

The average person spends a lot of their income on food, so not sure where you’re getting that they don’t.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/this-map-shows-how-much-each-country-spends-on-food/

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There are only eight countries in the world that spend less than 10% of their household income on food. Four of these are in Europe: the UK is third at 8.2%, followed by Switzerland at 8.7%; Ireland spends 9.6% and Austria 9.9%.
The remaining four countries are spread across the globe. The US spends the least at 6.4%, Singapore spends the second lowest amount at 6.7%. Canada spends 9.1% on food, while Australia spends 9.8%.
vs

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Four of them are in Africa: Nigeria 56.4%; Kenya 46.7%; Cameroon 45.6%; and Algeria 42.5%. Four are in Asia: Kazakhstan 43.0%; Philippines 41.9%; Pakistan 40.9%; and Azerbaijan 40.1%. Guatemala is the only South American country to appear in the list and spends 40.6% of its household income on food.

What happens when the prices of food are doubling for two families, one that was spending 6% and one that was spending 56%?
It turns into 12% and 112%....


The world has become a global village that is hyper-connected. A food crisis in Africa can trigger food and energy crisis in Europe. Most European countries depend on Africa for raw materials. Hunger and starvation in Africa can cause anarchy which would greatly affect the supply of raw materials. We saw how Niger-Delta crisis in Nigeria led to increase in oil prices and how the insecurity in Libya and Middle East triggered immigration crisis in Europe.

What logic, because the crisis in Africa was hurting Europe millions of Africans and Arabs have fled to Europe.

3586  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What's stopping companies making an actual space heater bitcoin miner for home? on: June 01, 2022, 07:30:11 AM
hmm, I don't think the number of chips is relevant to cooling, see I am not a thermodynamics expert by any means, but my understanding is that heat is just a form of energy, so when "electrical energy" passes through the chips of the miner it will convert to " heat energy" of the same amount, so a 1000watts electrical energy will always create a 1000 joule regardless of how that  "electrical energy" is being utilized.

You are right about using more efficient chips at the best efficiency you can squeeze of them, but that will only allow you to get more hashrate for the same amount of heat, but consuming 2000w will always generate 2000j worth of heat, now it's up to you if you want to move the heat away or keep it inside the miner to get some siclon sauce, but you can't possibly cool a 2000w miner without noisy fans.

Of course, if you push 1000w in any kind of system you will get the same amount of heat but I had the impression that when it comes to heat generation and transfer you could play with sizes, having chips further part larger heatsinks and more boards, rather than concentrating the heat source you could spread it out wider, so instead of a 15x15x35 miner you could go for the size of an air convertor, overall the same hashrate, the same heat transfer but done over a larger area, thus the reducing airspeed needed and the noise.
100x10W sources would be the same as 10x100W but spread over a 1x1m wall heater they would be easier to cool with normal speed fans.




3587  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What's stopping companies making an actual space heater bitcoin miner for home? on: May 31, 2022, 06:18:47 PM
My only guess is that it would be too expensive, but I'm not sure about that really...

Yes, it is, you can get the Vornado for $150 and the Apollo for $899.99, let's assume 1000W running for 6 hours a day for 6 months at 20cents/kwh for the heater and you have an energy bill of 200$ each year, but you paid in an advance for nearly 4 years. Let's assume you will keep the Apollo nonstop for heating purposes and you've got 18$ a month ignoring power.
So, why would anyone bother with these, especially since as years pass your machine will be less and less efficient compared to the newer models?

also the manufacturer rather deal with 10,000 possible warranty claims, support, and shipment that dealing with three times the number.

Spot on, this is common everywhere and this is why in some cases manufacturers of goods do not even sell directly to the consumer, they unload all this to resellers and let them deal with a mob of shoppers that will probably encounter every single problem in the universe. One tiny fraction for the profit and you can cut a lot of personnel in support and a lot in accounting, you won't be faced with tens of failed payments, chargeback, and everything else.

But even if someone else was going to do what you suggest, how would they exactly cool 1000W-2000W without moving enough air? and to do that you will end up using "load fans",

You can't without using air but you can reduce the noise by playing with the numbers of chips and their settings, of course, this would end with a mining machine mining at 1/3 of its capacity and not being a lot cheaper either. I just check my emergency air heater, it's rated 1500W and 50DB, and I bet the chips would melt at the temperature that the ceramic plate inside is heated.
3588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Oakridge just unveiled 1 exaflop computing. So how much is Bitcoin hashrate is? on: May 31, 2022, 05:47:57 PM
IS it 211.5 EH/s or 211.5 exaflop aka more than 211 times than of the fastest supercomputer?

Is a baby panda faster than an apple?  Grin

Just one funny thing, besides what o_e_l_e_o mentioned, even if that supercomputer would be mining at 1 exahash, it would still be a highly inefficient gear costwise, it did cost $600million, for that you can get around 78 000 Asics at spot prices that will give you around 8.5 exahash per second  Grin
But no, we're talking about two different things built for different purposes.

3589  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Ruble Surpasses Brazil’s Real as Year’s Best-Performing Currency on: May 31, 2022, 12:05:51 PM
Many said if the american national deficit becomes too large, the united states can simply invade another country to confiscate their wealth. Putin may read internet forums and have decided this is a good idea. If russia lacks GDP per capita they can simply invade and pillage ukraine to elevate their native GDP stats. (Sad it is, Putin may merely be echoing sentiments internet posters made for many years.)

Worked wonders when the USSR invaded Afghanistan!

I got the impression russia's ruble is backed by petroleum reserves, natural gas and other commodities.

So was the Soviet ruble.

Venezuela was the wealthiest nation in south america when their currency was backed by oil commodities. .

That was in the '70s, should we go back in time to when Timbuktu was a leading city because of the salt trade?

Overprinting of fiat currency trends with declining value. I am interested to know how people correlate the rising value of the russian ruble with Putin overprinting it.

People can't correlate the rising value because there is no rising value other than on the screens of Russia Today.
The whole exchange rate is fake as hell and you can see that in every clip from Russia, if you look at the exchange rate it looks like those tomatoes are 5$ per kilo, higher than everywhere in the world, apples 3$ per kilo but that's just because the exchange rate is fake, fake as it can possible be faked and that is seen in the prices too.
 
3590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: With TerraBulls on the rise, there is something happening on the BSC on: May 31, 2022, 11:46:52 AM
Once the volume kicks in again and it fill ups to 100-200bnb all of that goes to the community! This as well as our mental health charity donation which will be sent as a huge donation will be publicised heavily.

Of course, you're going to give millions and billions and trillions to the community.
Your super hyper mega such wow project that includes a CEX, NFT, Staking, DefI and every other single hype known to the crypto community has no way of failing.

Speaking of failing, what happened to microcats?
It was the same,
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Cat NFTS, P2E, staking, and a marketplace all under one ecosystem
yet in just two months ended like this:
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All Time High
Mar 16, 2022 (2 months ago)   $0.0000001289  -98.26%

Let's use the same scam project but replace cats with bulls, throw in a controversial name to gain an audience, and here it is, a brand new shitcoin waiting to mare some poor souls poorer.
3591  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Ruble Surpasses Brazil’s Real as Year’s Best-Performing Currency on: May 31, 2022, 11:25:19 AM
You're looking at the graphs of a Potemkin currency and funny enough you're believing it.

First, just like other failed currencies from the Zimbabwe dollar to the Iranian rial and the Venezuelan bolivar, the exchange rate men's nothing since, you can't go to a bank and ask for dollars at that rate, making it even worse in Russia you can't even ask for dollars at all.

This is not something new it's the same thing as the Soviet ruble, you had three exchange rates
- the official at one rube to 1.35 dollars that stayed nearly the same for a decade despite the country going bankrupt at every step
- the same official rate for export and import companies and government officials where the rate was far lower but was still supported by the state
- the real rate that was sometimes x10 lower for any citizen that wanted to buy real $

This is again the same, they are trying to prop the currency to save face, you can't have a currency that is printed at 20% with bank deposit going up, everyone knows what happens when you do so, you have the Anchor/ Terra fiasco once more, the same insane rate with money that can't come from anywhere as there is no money left.

Well whoever have the energy resources will most likely going to rise up and Russia has the means to. The mainstream media are already realizing how misinformed we are when it comes to Russia's capacity. They were reluctant to publish these information before but now we are seeing it on Reuters. This network is known to rubbishly lie about everything we know about world issues but here they are. Gas and Oil made it happen as Putin asks to pay in rouble, its the law of supply and demand.

And despite having more gas and oil and getting paid in rubles the USSR still went down the drain.
So, what's the majik trick the country with one of the lowest GDP per capita in Europe, competing with Moldova and Montenegro will pull out of the hat this time?
3592  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Quox Capital on: May 31, 2022, 11:08:27 AM
Stay away from it, they claim to be fully licensed in St. Vincent and the Grenadines on their about page but that doesn't cover any forex or brokerage activities as those aren't licensed by the SVGFSA for any company incorporated there.
So you're basically dealing with a $200 setup fee LLC with no brokerage license that can disappear tomorrow without a trace.

Also I just hate companies that do this kind of shit

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Quox Capital LLC reserves the right to debit $5 from a customer's balance if
the account has been dormant for a period of 3 months and every month of dormancy after that
3593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Duration of new block to confirm and include transactions on: May 30, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
I just made a simple calculation.
Till now 738567 blocks have been mined. These blocks have been mined in 4894 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes.
The overall average block time has been 9 minutes and 33 seconds.

This is comparable to the jumps the price has made, we've seen it going 10000x time up but that doesn't mean we're going to see that happening again, same with the hashrate growing, when ASICs hit the market, from 2013 till late 2014 the average was well below 9 minutes, with a lot of periods ending with even 6 minutes and a half on average.
That won't be possible anymore unless you also have a large shutdown before some are getting plugged in again, to keep a 5% increase each period you will need right now about 100k asics, and each time this requirement will grow exponentially.

As  o_e_l_e_o mentioned, break it down to 100k or yearly batches and you're going to see that the deviation is going down


3594  Economy / Economics / Re: World has just ten weeks' worth of wheat left after Ukraine war on: May 30, 2022, 10:22:34 AM
I'm not certain what proportion of european diets are derived from wheat sources. This seems as if it might be bad news.
We have had claims of "apocalyptic" food prices for awhile now. While naysayers claim it will not affect 1st world countries.

So the telegraph is the new dailymail...
I just hate it when people who have no idea what they are talking about put sensationalist titles in newspapers they know will be read by millions

First, let's exclude the fact that what in deposits doesn't mean total wheat available, depending on the country there are around 3-6 weeks of wheat consumption already on the line, meaning moving from deposits in transit, in companies storage, in mills, already as flour being transported and deposited, and as flour in stores or in logistic deposits or already at your bakery, so 10 weeks of storage means about 15 weeks of consumption available already.

Second
https://ipad.fas.usda.gov/rssiws/al/crop_calendar/europe.aspx
15 weeks mean nearly 4 months, that's middle September, and by that date all of Europe wheat had been harvested.

Third:
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Conditions for Western growers have been poor due to dry conditions.
BS
https://www.reuters.com/article/eu-grains-coceral-idAFL2N2XJ0ER
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PARIS, May 27 (Reuters) - Grain trade association Coceral raised on Friday its forecast of this year’s soft wheat production in the European Union and Britain, to 143.0 million tonnes from 141.3 million estimated in March, notably due to beneficial rainfall in Spain.
The raised forecast compared with 2021 production of 143.9 million tonnes, Coceral said.

Fourth
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Meanwhile, the Kremlin is tightening its grip on wheat supplies after a stronger harvest. Carlos Mera, head of agri commodities research at Rabobank, said mild conditions in Russia – which accounts for about a fifth of global wheat exports – had put it on track to produce 84.9m metric tonnes of the staple grain this year.

Russia produces 84.9 million tons, good...
The EU produced 119.1 million tonnes of common wheat in 2020 and 286.5 million tonnes of all cereals.
You can look at the statistics at FAO and see the reality behind the clickbait's shitnews



So, while Europe can still export and doesn't ban exports, there will still be enough food, if the EU does the same as India, the rest of the world is fucked, with only Canada and Australia left as major exporters!




3595  Economy / Economics / Re: Enticing customers to make payment with crypto. on: May 30, 2022, 10:05:11 AM
If I offer discounts which will encourage more of my customers to get crypto, how can I possibly sustain it for long to ensure that i don't run at a loss?

Try it and see it!

First, you would have to offer enough of a discount to make some of your customers think it's better to pay in crypto rather than with traditional fiat, and here is the mentality problem, most don't want to spend crypto because it will be 100k soon, so do you think you're going to convince them for 5% off?
Second, there is the problem of the profit ratio your business is running on, do you have a printing shop, a butcher shop, or a restaurant, if you run on a low margin high volume model the discounts will most likely be impossible if the opposite you could probably sustain it for a long time because well, not so many will be keen on spending.
I do hope that the decline in activity on the main chain is because people use LN to pay for stuff, but I see no actual evidence of that happening on a large scale.

So, try it first and then tell us how it went!  Grin


I can sell shares with my cell phone in an instant and pay with the money I receive with the debit card, but I do not do it because the money I have in shares is an investment, and I will not use the money from an investment to pay for current expenses, such as food in a restaurant even if they offer me a small discount, because I expect to get more out of the investment, regardless of the fact that if I sell the stock to pay for a fucking steak and a beer I will have to pay capital gains. The same applies to cryptocurrencies (as long as the current price is higher than the one you bought).

Since you can sell and buy shares in an instant why don't you do the same with bitcoin?
You have the choice of paying 100$ with a CC or $90 with bitcoin, pay with bitcoin and then buy 100$ worth of bitcoin with your CC. Simple!




3596  Economy / Services / Re: Job for someone in NewZeland ($1500 for a simple task) on: May 27, 2022, 01:51:47 PM
You know practically everything about the person who owes you money, and you are looking for someone else to collect debts for you by calling that person and his family members? You do not take into account that everything about that person may be false, but also that the threats are taken very seriously even if they come over the phone. Is $1500 worthwhile if someone ends up in jail for threatening someone?

I have a bad feeling about this, seeing OP's history, the fact that he was willing to buy bitcoins in Germany once and then put as a collateral an account with a verified Russian id, his Ponzi scheme, and the fact that he thought of this in the first place makes me think he might just seek revenge on somebody and there was no scam, no money theft and of course, there won't be any reward. Seeing what tantrum he threw for just  20$ this guy might be somebody who just beat him on some online game

Fortunately, even if somebody ignores all those red flags,  I doubt there would be any moron who would take a job that could land him in jail for years for two weeks of minimum wage!



3597  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Importance Of early Cryptocurrency Education for Children(HAPPY CHILDREN DAY) on: May 27, 2022, 01:24:40 PM
Importance Of early Cryptocurrency Education for Children

Old story and actually shows something different, the importance of having a father that is wealthy enough to let you invest $150k at least at the right moment.
Read philipma1957 answer on this, it has nothing to do about teaching and education, it's an about a father who buys ready assembled hydra cases throwing tens of thousands of dollars on each batch.

Rather than being inspiring it actually points out one thing, no matter how intelligent and educated you are, if you lack money, it will always be harder for you.


3598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is also a currency, why is its unit so different from the commonly used on: May 27, 2022, 10:03:15 AM
Example: A bag of bread in a supermarket is labeled:  
A, $2.
B, 0.00006653 BTC.
C, 66.53 µBTC.

You see, you started with the wrong assumption, that somehow in every place on this earth things end either end with a fixed value or something like 1.5 or 5.5.
Since you mentioned Japan, look at the prices here, (random google search image)

So there are a lot of 278, 248, 186, 208, 321, 1558, 1068, 1238, 1198, which doesn't seem to be a problem for 120 million people.
Next, you're totally wrong about the flat prices for bread, let's take Europe for example, go into a carrefour and you're going to see prices like 1.35, 1.48, 2.64, 1.69 regularly, I've checked my last receipt from the supermarket, it was 67.01..lol!
We could go to the extreme examples, how do people manage to do it in Vietnam where everything is in the thousands?

It's a fake problem that wouldn't bother anyone longterm.
The bigger bump in the road is that not that many are interested in spending coins they believe will be worth 10 times more after the halving, again a fake issue since you can spend your coins and with the unused fiat replenish your stash, driving merchant adoptions since they see people spending.
3599  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower on: May 27, 2022, 09:45:30 AM
Let me reply with another question, why no Canada or Australia?

Advantages:
- growing population, Russia has lost population from the start of the century even if we add Crimea, Canada has added 8 million, Australia 6, both of them have enormous GDP per capita compared to Russia, Cnada having a higher overall GPD despite being 3 times smaller rin population and Australia almost matching Russia, they both have huge agricultural capacities and production, being net staple food exporters, huge mineral and energy resources, just one neighbor in Canadian case and the ocean when it comes to Australia, no conflict, no territorial disputes.
- slight cons, a bit higher debt to GDP ratio at around 40% compared to 20%, no nukes

So, who's the winner?

And now another thing
Russia has the same advantages as the USSR but on a lower scale, with less land, less population, the soviet union had more people than the USA now the gap has grown to two times and a half in USA's favor, and the GDP difference has grown from 1:3 in the early '90s to 1:15, it has lost tons of resources with the loss of Kazahstan, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, and others and it has lost all its partners from the Warsaw pact that are nwo on the other side of the fence.
So if in 3 times more favorable conditions the USSR has failed, why would Russia manage?


You don't understand anything about economics. Armed conflict on foreign territory is the best way to solve economic problems. Russia earns a billion euros a day on the export of hydrocarbons to Europe and loads its military-industrial complex with work, disposing of old weapons and ammunition with an expiring date in Ukraine for free. It's better than drug dealing.


Isn't 1 billion a day something like 6 dollars per capita per day, or according to videos from Russia, 2 kilos of apples or 4 kilos of cheapest potatoes?



Wow, such growth, much power, moon economics!
3600  Economy / Economics / Re: Solar panels set to be mandatory on all new buildings under EU plan on: May 26, 2022, 07:08:54 PM
Not something I'm massively in know of, but I'm wondering if transferring the energy that has been collected in countries or areas which are more prone to sun, to places without that much sun could be an option. I'm assuming this would likely be quite expensive, and would likely mean losing some of that energy in the process, but I keep hearing that this is priority from the governments, so why haven't they kicked into gear?

There were major problems
- you get energy only during a certain time table so even if you import energy for a longer period let's say 8 hours instead of 4 you still have to make it for the other 16, so what might look like twice the production is still only a 25% reduction in storage capacity
- complete unpredictability, it's one thing importing from a country with 5 nuclear powerplants of 1000MW, another from 500 10MW solar farms, you constantly need to balance the grid and some countries are not interested in this expensive interconnection if there is no guarantee for the supply
- solar energy is not cheap, it's still paid for by the population by the government subsidies, which cease to exist once it's exported, making it not cost-competitive
- everyone wants to reach energy independence, even if it's green you still depend on your neighbors, so they would rather spend billions for extra generation and storage capacities than interconnections.

One of the biggest items used to produce Solar Panels is coal, so we are still extracting
fossil fuels to create Solar.

Coal is not used directly in the production of solar panels and if you think the coal burned for the energy required to manufacture that's a nonargument, hydroelectricity is only produced after we've built a thousand ton damn made of concrete using also energy, burning thousands of tons of oil to move all that material and the machines, if the energy that is used to produce panels is green then there is no coal being burned.





 
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