Bitcoin is actually a total win in China. The point is not necessarily that people need to be able to freely buy with CNY on online exchanges. The reality is that Chinese miners have good access to ASICs, there is an infrastructure in place for in-person trading for cash, and all of that is totally legal and outside the regulatory purview of PBOC. They can still drive up the price without exchanges as we know them, because the intrinsic value proposition for the Chinese people is immense. A Chinese Bitcoin holder has what amounts to a Swiss bank account on steroids, which they can trade offshore for hard currency anytime they want. Merely holding these coins as a store of value exerts upward pressure on the price via the supply schedule.
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This basically demonstrates that PBOC is really just taking the same position as every other central bank in the world.
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Hashing is not a crime, payment fraud is. There are lots of existing statutes that cover those bases. Specifically legislating against 51% is a weird form of prior restraint on what is not actually a crime to begin with.
As for all this weird stuff about sociopaths and whatnot, I consider myself a Libertarian politically, but I have to admit I find that cringeworthy, as all that stuff misses the point just to have a big antigovernment circlejerk.
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This is a point where I wish had some ASCII art of a facepalming handy.
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If we really do capitulate to $200 or lower, a lot of people are going to get crazy rich off this thing!
a shit ton of poeple have already gotten rich of the emergence of digital currency welcome to 2014 I mean a lot of people who weren't before.
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If we really do capitulate to $200 or lower, a lot of people are going to get crazy rich off this thing!
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There is already a pretty comprehensible legal framework in place for dealing with these kinds of situations. The "crime" in a 51% attack is not simply having the hashing power, it's in committing fraud against a victim. There is nothing necessarily special about a 51% attack with respect to existing laws concerning payment fraud.
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I really think people should try doing some research before investing their money into a currency/coin/whatever. NXT forging is not mining. It's really no more than collecting transaction fees. Right now the forging return from NXT is close to nothing, even when NXT becomes massive, forging income will still only be enough to be comparable to a high-interest conventional bank account. NXT investors can/will get rich, not by creating new coins out of thin air + electricity, but from the increase in NXT's own value and by investment in NXT based businesses. NXT (and its second gen competitors) are a new paradigm in crypto....so adapt or die. It's 2014, kids, burning coal to make electronic tokens is sooooo 2010. Classic script to a pump-and-dump.
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I think China will be a factor in a future rally but in a completely different capacity than just driving price via exchange trading. The gradual encroaching restrictions have propelled huge expansion in mining as a substitute bitcoin acquisition method, and it's very possible this demographic is less inclined to sell for fiat as quickly as their western counterparts. The Chinese middle class has a LOT of savings with nowhere to make a return, and have both great access to ASIC mining hardware via individual purchase domestically and through investing in more professional ventures. It's very plausible that in the near future, a much lower percentage of mining supply will be sold on short timescales just for fiat, and a more hoarded supply necessarily leads to less resistance to upwards price pressure.
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Hi, Have you tried using the SHA256 connection rather than a stratum connection. I am using this with my account on GHASH.io as it is working well for me. I have tried the stratum Multipool and this was not generating as well for me. But for the SHA256 BTC mining, it is working very well. Good luck
There is no such thing as a "SHA256 connection" as opposed to stratum. They all use stratum, it's just that pools will use different server names / port numbers for scrypt coins versus Bitcoin mining. So basically you're saying that your SHA256 ASIC miner didn't mine scrypt (by trying to connect to the "stratum multipool" on ghash.io). The OP's problem is nowhere near as ridiculous as what you're describing. Wow, touchy group. I seen that there was no further posts helping this individual and thought I would reach out to them to see if they had figured it out or not. Ok I will admit I should have explained further and do understand what you are saying. The miner is capable of scrypt mining but is better suited for bitcoin mining. Just in my experience so far. Thanks for the reply, too bad it has taken so long for someone to to reply to this person...again Wow Of course, I'm "touchy" contradicting stuff you just made up out of thin air! It's not exactly helpful to the OP when literally everything you're saying is wrong. It's also funny that you're trying to save face by claiming that this unit does scrypt.
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Hi, Have you tried using the SHA256 connection rather than a stratum connection. I am using this with my account on GHASH.io as it is working well for me. I have tried the stratum Multipool and this was not generating as well for me. But for the SHA256 BTC mining, it is working very well. Good luck
There is no such thing as a "SHA256 connection" as opposed to stratum. They all use stratum, it's just that pools will use different server names / port numbers for scrypt coins versus Bitcoin mining. So basically you're saying that your SHA256 ASIC miner didn't mine scrypt (by trying to connect to the "stratum multipool" on ghash.io). The OP's problem is nowhere near as ridiculous as what you're describing.
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It's 100% capital controls and nothing else.
Trading RMB for Bitcoin freely on exchanges is an unlimited circumvention of capital controls. Just that and no other reason requires PBOC to do something, unless we want to believe that all of a sudden PRC has completely rethought its position on capital flight.
Why can't they implement controls? In principle they could, but it would require bureaucrats to stick their necks out to create rules that they have no incentive to create, that could come back and bite them in the ass, when offshore CNH trading already accomplishes the exact intention of any new rules.
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It's 100% capital controls and nothing else.
Trading RMB for Bitcoin freely on exchanges is an unlimited circumvention of capital controls. Just that and no other reason requires PBOC to do something, unless we want to believe that all of a sudden PRC has completely rethought its position on capital flight.
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I think extrapolation of the historical chart patterns is a stronger argument than extrapolation of risto's bets.... just launched my bet on bitbet.... $4000 before $400. should be approved tonight Bold. Size of bet? You consider ~1000% appreciation more likely than ~15% depreciation? It's a derivative. Even if you believe it's going to appreciate to that level, you still always bet on it depreciating as a form of insurance.
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The interpretation here and on cex.io's page that the maintenance fee is in some way dependent on difficulty is complete and utter nonsense. Their cost is based on GH/s, and the cost to run and maintain any given amount of GH/s in Bitcoin is ONLY dependent on the BTC/USD exchange rate and nothing else.
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a story problem
mine 1 BTC at $400 - logged as income Cost to mine that same 1 BTC - $490 logged as expense
net loss - $90
sold same 1 BTC at $500
do you pay capital gains on $100 or $10?
Capital gains is on the $100, because the fair market value establishes the basis. So your mining business nets $10 but you pay taxes on $100 Yes because your cost was already deducted against revenue in the first place. You're trying to double-deduct costs. Leaving out the income component of this situation gives a distorted picture exactly like what you described.
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a story problem
mine 1 BTC at $400 - logged as income Cost to mine that same 1 BTC - $490 logged as expense
net loss - $90
sold same 1 BTC at $500
do you pay capital gains on $100 or $10?
Capital gains is on the $100, because the fair market value establishes the basis.
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Buying an actual S1 directly from Bitmain ends up being cheaper, and you get almost double the hashing power.
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Sorry for diverting from the original topic. But I am having a doubt regarding this. If some one doesn't have any income, or if his income is less than $200 /month, what will the government do? He cannot afford a healthcare policy, so he is not enrolling. Will the government arrest him?
Everyone with that kind of income level is already well-below the cuttoff for qualifying to enroll in Medicaid, which arguably is absolutely horrific coverage, but enrollment in Medicaid satisfies the coverage mandate of the ACA.
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I am trying to imagine how Bitcoin can actually be as fast as cash transactions. The banks in Australia already have a system that is faster than cash called Paypass and I can't see Bitcoin competing.
Bitcoin wins overwhelmingly already because the zero confirmation adequately propagated transaction itself has orders of magnitude less reversal risk than any existing pull-style instrument. The 10-minute block targeting time is irrelevant to ordinary point of sale transactions. Paypass is just a frontend for normal credit card backend systems and has all the counterparty and fraud risk of any other system of that nature. These systems "verify" quickly, but the merchant does not actually securely have the money until a lot longer than ten minutes!
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