I wonder when people would be convinced ION is no scam? You need coincode? Features? Ledger for ant assets and/or spendings? People signing documents? More time? More commitment? More hours? More info? More value? Higher price? Other partners? More trading volume?
... when will you rest assured?
Do you get a medal for it being declared "not a scam" but still a shitty investment that only makes money for the team? That's the part I don't get about all of this. Paycoin was a shitty investment and wouldn't have worked even if Garza wasn't a scumbag. So they've removed Garza and still have a shitty pos coin with no purpose and insane inflation and zero incentive for anyone to buy them. |
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So to summarize, "imminent" game launch and being on other exchanges is longer than 10 days, and the new "feature" of giving team ION actual useful coins that they can turn into BTC and/or dollars in exchange for useless ions is a good thing.
Glad to see things moving along swimmingly.
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why do you care about singaporean law when Matlack is in texas and there's zero proof of them being a registered company in singapore?
Who on earth is going to buy all those ions you get in 6 months?
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In casino related gambling games on any type there is no strategy to beat the house. All you need is to be lucky with self control to be able to take the winnings out from that casino. I do think actually you win two times once you win and second if you take your winnings. Roulette is considered luck based game and I do agree about it.
There is no strategy to beat the house, but in same games there are strategies that are not as bad as other strategies. In roulette every strategy is equally bad. they all work exactly the same way. |
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Really? There are strategies for playing roulette?
I think it won't works. Especially you play it on online gambling site.
You are right, the only strategy is to build a casino and be the one paying 35-1 on something that will happen 1 out of every 37/38 times. But since people pay people to post drivel in this forum it takes tons of pages of nonsense to get that point across. offline roulette there is no way you can win with any strategy , but in online roulette i guess you could use a certain strategy (a programmer strategy) as the game itself built in certain code and there always a repeated pattern. if there was a repeated pattern someone would have figured it out and bankrupted that programmer by now. I agree with you if theres a pattern many casino sites would surely be bankrupt, even if you are a programmer you cant manipulate of exploit the system because casino owners are already aware on this scenario which they already made a way to secure their site on such attacks or being abused. Pattern doesnt exist at all especially if its a provably fair site. It is very difficult to predict what exact number will come in Roulette game. But we can guess some numbers based on the previous number. I played this game online I won some bets. To make a profit in this game, we need big bankroll if we have big bankroll we can able to make a profit in this game. This game will give more fun and many gamblers fav game is Roulette. You cannot guess based on previous results. if it was possible someone old have done it already. |
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Really? There are strategies for playing roulette?
I think it won't works. Especially you play it on online gambling site.
You are right, the only strategy is to build a casino and be the one paying 35-1 on something that will happen 1 out of every 37/38 times. But since people pay people to post drivel in this forum it takes tons of pages of nonsense to get that point across. offline roulette there is no way you can win with any strategy , but in online roulette i guess you could use a certain strategy (a programmer strategy) as the game itself built in certain code and there always a repeated pattern. if there was a repeated pattern someone would have figured it out and bankrupted that programmer by now. |
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Really? There are strategies for playing roulette?
I think it won't works. Especially you play it on online gambling site.
You are right, the only strategy is to build a casino and be the one paying 35-1 on something that will happen 1 out of every 37/38 times. But since people pay people to post drivel in this forum it takes tons of pages of nonsense to get that point across. |
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Yeah it is starting to look like Homero's biggest scam would be this class action against Stu, if it all works out that way. Hopefully the SEC will still have the last laugh.
I can't really feel sorry for Stu though. Being that slow and having that much [inherited] money is always dangerous. He's lucky he's in it "only" for ~$20m. It probably wouldn't bankrupt him but may make retirement with Elise less enjoyable.
I don't know how anything in this saga could shock me, but I would really be shocked if someone who became a VP at Cantor was able to get fucked by a peon like Garza. I can see him conning Stu out of some money, but leaving him holding the bag of all of this is crazy. |
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I think the money has got to be stashed away somewhere.
What did he spend it on?
They didn't pay for the data center, they didn't pay for btc.com, how much could they have given scott fargo and the other PR firms to sprout their bullshit?
How much actual expenses did they have to pretend to mine coins?
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I have been shocked at every turn in this saga about how people could be smart enough to have money but dumb enough to lose it to garza, but Garza being able to fuck Fraser is still unbelievable to me.
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Unfortunately i had over $2000 worth of hashlets and primes, this was one of my first burns in the bitcoin alt coin industry and i learnt alot from it, was a real shame i really thought paycoin was going to go large and invested into that as well, i feel disappointed and ashamed that i let myself get sucked in to this scam.
Sucks to lose 2k, but if you see what you did wrong and don't do it again you will be ok. |
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@suchmoon @Lordoftheinternet Really? 219 sites of your personal s**t? You were scammed by Gonzo? Sorry for that, me too. There comes the time where you have to 'let it go'. And the time is now! You won't invest in ION? Fair enough. Pls spare us with your whining s**t. I am really tired of it.
but this thread is fun to read. it's given me hours of entertainment. i actually kind of like the ion whales here. even though i don't agree with almost anything they say. also, bitcointalk serves as an important counterbalance to heavily censored forums like hashtalk, xpytalk, etc. Yes, you are all right. But 219 sites? Pls be sure, i felt warned: I am aware of the risk of ION and the whole crypto business. Is it really necessary to be repeated again and again? You decide, but may there are other coins/things you will focus on? What distinguish ION from the other about 99% scam coins, that you feel to be the choosen one to inform the public? Thatīs may an interesting question, isnīt it? So you admit this is a scam coin?  I always like this argument. How many other scams/shitty investments someone points out and argues against really doesn't have anything to do with how shitty of an investment ION is. You don't need to call out every awful venture on this forum to be able to notice that a hyperstaking coin run by people too stupid to realize hashlets didn't exist is a bad idea. |
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I'm very excited for your own individual lawsuit Spoetnik, it's going to be fun to watch the show go on after everyone else gets a little bit of money back.
what should happen doesn't actually matter. what should have happened is people should have been smart enough to run from a shitty exchange that wasn't letting people withdraw. 3/4 of the money from the house is better than nithing, maybe one day you'll learn that what should happen means absolutely nothing.
if getting all of the house was a slam dunk, they'd be getting all of the house.
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I dunno ask the guys ripped of with Cryptsy stocks at CryptoStocks.com
..are they still "whining" ?
I am allowed they burned my ass on it LOL
Living expenses my ass.. that chick does not deserve to win the lottery.
she didn't win the lottery. She gave up her house and ring to eliminate the risk of losing more, and the lawyers took the ring and part of the money from the house to eliminate the risk of getting nothing. The lawyers in the lawsuit think that a guaranteed 3/4ths of the money of the house is better than risking getting nothing. You are free to sue on your own if you disagree. Whining here will accomplish nothing. There's plenty of other stuff to discuss in this thread, but you really need to stop thinking of it as her winning the lottery, it's called a compromise and if you aren't happy with it you have recourse. |
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What part of your Nettles defense did you guys outline how she is deserving of a quarter million dollars for living expenses ?
If there IS money available for the victims then they should be paid every last cent possible.
Not leaving the thief's wife a nice big cut of the stolen money for her to enjoy.
again, if you are not happy with this, sue her yourself. the lawyers who have access to all the facts think that this guaranteed payout is better than the risk/effort/expense of a trial. your constant whining sounds a lot like what the people who ripped up their refund checks from hash fast because they weren't the full BTC refunds. how'd that work out for them? |
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If she is guilty enough to lose some of the money from selling the house she should be forking it all over. There is a reason it was sold off from her.. She should not get to keep 1 damn cent. If she is innocent then why are they taking the damn house at all ? And 250k ? She can go rent an apartment etc for chump change like most people do. The Cryptsy Princess has to sell her Crown and diamonds ? awwwww so sad  The only thing i want to hear is that she is brought up on charges and investigated. You guys should try reading a book or a newspaper and learn how the real world works. The idea of a settlement is to meet somewhere in the middle to reduce the risks for both sides. one possibility is that she walked away owing the class nothing. That would not be a great outcome for the class. Another possibility is that she would be found liable to owe the class tons of money, that would not be a great outcome for her. The point of a settlement is to find somewhere in the middle. If you are not happy and you feel this woman owes you money, withdraw from the class and sue her yourself after she already gives most of the liquid assets she has left to the members of the class and see where it leads you. |
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It's called a settlement. Give her 250k to get her to give up the other stuff instead of having to spend time/effort/money to TRY and get it from her.
Before crying note that this is all taking place in florida, where OJ Simpson was able to live in a 500k+ house despite owing the Goldman family 35 million dollars for a case where HE was found liable, getting a house that Vernon's ex-wife lived in is nothing close to a slam dunk.
That is one steaming load of bull.. For one thing what did she "give up" on this class action lawsuit in order to win the lottery ? Which is NOT the point of the class action lawsuit.. She was not plea bargaining with criminal charges was she ? NO. She received a settlement . WHY ? Further more OJ was found guilty at the END of the trial. So how could he have owed them before being found guilty ? I'd say nice try but it wasn't.. EDIT: toned it down i did not mean to be so insulting  oj moved to Florida AFTER being found liable because he knew they couldn't take his house if he lived there. this woman already lived in florida, so IF she was found to owe the members of the class money (which was not a guarantee) they might not have made her sell the house because they don't make people sell their houses to pay off judgementsin Florida. that was the settlement, she gives them the money from the house that they might not be entitled to, minus a sum, and she is done with the case. this makes sense for her because she won't owe more money than she has. this works for members of the class because it gives them more money from her NOW then they expect to get from her over time. yes, it sucks that people got fucked by Cryptsy, but that has already happened and the money is gone. a guaranteed portion of that house is better than trying to get more money that is gone. By her living in the house, Lorie Nettles can delay its sale by: having a tom cat spray the fuck out of it; keep it untidy to turn off perspective buyers; dissuade buyers by disclosing issues with the home, whether real or not; stay steadfast on a high asking price; refuse offers. The list goes on. The bottomline, the Chinese bitch is in full control since she was allowed to stay in the home. I can't see this house selling within the next year, perhaps two years down the road when Nettles finally relents due to such action no longer being in her best interest. I'm having issues with how a million-dollar-plus house purchased with stolen moneys is able to be sold, then given the spouse of the thief ~1/4 of the moneys. Did a judge make that determination? Because it is her house, and in Florida they don't make you leave your house if you owe someone else money. That's why getting a percentage of the house is a win for the people suing them. 3/4ths of the value of the house, guaranteed, now, is a bit of money, and it is agreed to. They don't have to risk losing the case to her, they don't have to risk winning the case and being told that she doesn't have to/won't sell her house. It's like a deal in a poker tournament. Sometimes you take guaranteed less than 1st place money so you don't risk ending up being the next person out. |
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It's called a settlement. Give her 250k to get her to give up the other stuff instead of having to spend time/effort/money to TRY and get it from her.
Before crying note that this is all taking place in florida, where OJ Simpson was able to live in a 500k+ house despite owing the Goldman family 35 million dollars for a case where HE was found liable, getting a house that Vernon's ex-wife lived in is nothing close to a slam dunk.
That is one steaming load of bull.. For one thing what did she "give up" on this class action lawsuit in order to win the lottery ? Which is NOT the point of the class action lawsuit.. She was not plea bargaining with criminal charges was she ? NO. She received a settlement . WHY ? Further more OJ was found guilty at the END of the trial. So how could he have owed them before being found guilty ? I'd say nice try but it wasn't.. EDIT: toned it down i did not mean to be so insulting oj moved to Florida AFTER being found liable because he knew they couldn't take his house if he lived there. this woman already lived in florida, so IF she was found to owe the members of the class money (which was not a guarantee) they might not have made her sell the house because they don't make people sell their houses to pay off judgementsin Florida. that was the settlement, she gives them the money from the house that they might not be entitled to, minus a sum, and she is done with the case. this makes sense for her because she won't owe more money than she has. this works for members of the class because it gives them more money from her NOW then they expect to get from her over time. yes, it sucks that people got fucked by Cryptsy, but that has already happened and the money is gone. a guaranteed portion of that house is better than trying to get more money that is gone. |
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It's called a settlement. Give her 250k to get her to give up the other stuff instead of having to spend time/effort/money to TRY and get it from her.
Before crying note that this is all taking place in florida, where OJ Simpson was able to live in a 500k+ house despite owing the Goldman family 35 million dollars for a case where HE was found liable, getting a house that Vernon's ex-wife lived in is nothing close to a slam dunk.
Like Paul Vernon, Lorie Nettles was in the US Army in intelligence. IT'S A GODDAMN FACT THAT SHE KNEW EXACTING WHAT PAUL WAS UP TO AT CRYPTSY WITH SHE MORE THAN LIKELY PLAYING A MAJOR ROLE IN THE VENTURE. If she didn't, then she didn't know how she got pregnant when she was bending over retrieving cookies from the oven while Jim Slockney was in the kitchen on holiday in Florida from Texas to spend some time with his bud, Paul, who was out doing his morning jog with the rest of the Chinese wives in the neighborhood. Spoetnik, your turn. that's fine, but it doesn't make it a slam dunk that the court was going to take away her house. |
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It's called a settlement. Give her 250k to get her to give up the other stuff instead of having to spend time/effort/money to TRY and get it from her.
Before crying note that this is all taking place in florida, where OJ Simpson was able to live in a 500k+ house despite owing the Goldman family 35 million dollars for a case where HE was found liable, getting a house that Vernon's ex-wife lived in is nothing close to a slam dunk.
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