i think you guys are missing the point. this is not really for online stuff, although it would be usefull in certain situations like μpayments to avoid a lot of fees, just send in BTC2 and not have to send any more for a month or so.
This idea also would work good in malls. you could go to the malls website and put money in that way, or right at the door. there would be at least 1 block done by the time you wanted to buy something. and really 1 block is good enough for smaller purchases below $500.
in addition, why are you guys so easy to just go to the simple solution of "hey, lets give all our money to this guy over here, we can trust him, right?". not only would you pay more, you are defeating the purpose of bitcoin.
overall i think my idea is both easy to understand and safe. it requires no additional passwords to remember and is as secure as your email account (although some people are stupid so i dont know, maby a text based system, use your phone number instead.).
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My name is Juan V. Gomez I live at 4809 Bungalow Road Omaha, NE 68102 I am 86.9 kg and 184 cm tall My mothers maiden name is Wade. I have nothing to hide.
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anyone who thinks a .us domain is better than .de is retarded at best. and 25k for that domain is probably a lie.
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the thing with a security hologram is that they are pointless unless you get a custom made one, and hope the same company don't sell them to another entity. otherwise your just wasting your time and the customers money.
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Sounds a lot like gift cards.
I buy a gift card from Wal*mart for 5BTC, and it is only usable at Wal*mart.
yep, except more online, instant(kinda), and more secure. and you can take the money out if you want, and its really meant for personal use.
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Just a simple what i think a solution is to the problem of secure, instant and somewhat decentralized transactions. this solution does not give the bs answer, just give all your money to some central authority. This would rely heavily a non existent open source platform that has yet to be made. the system would not be account based, but more email based. it would not require a brand new account name/password. just you supply your real name and email address in the website and everything else works through email where you need verification. example: i want to buy some stuff from walmart i go to walmart.com and put my name "ctoon6" and my email " example@example.com" walmart.com sends an email with a unique public bitcoin address that i send any amount of coins i want. i send BTC5 to the public address walmart sends another email back that is signed and says how many coins i sent along with a random pin number and password. in the same email i get a link to an image to print out a card for use at the store. it would require the pin with the card, vaid for x amount of time i could also get the card printed out at walmart if i wanted also. the card is only required at a storefront. if i type my email address into walmart.com it would send an email of how many coins i have and my account information and such. if i want my coins back i type in my email address at walmart.com and the amount i want back they send an email and i click a link in the email that takes me to a page where i specify the public address. in short, every store or company or site has their own account systems. this is better than a single, and pointless system where you have to trust 1 company with all your money that you want to spend versus a bunch of smaller ones where you would only loose at most like USD100 worth. this does not address the vending machine problem, unless every vending machine company formed a coalition or something.
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im kind of curious as to what libertarianism has to do with this thread, which is about trolling the UABB guy. and as to the people who say this forums is full of trolls, ill tell you why. these forums have almost no rules, as long as you are not breaking/exploiting the forum software and are not EXCESSIVELY spamming, i don't think i have ever seen anyone get banned. oh yeah, porn too and them assassination threads too. thats why there are so many trolls, and why no real thread can exist.
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just as a i thought, this is just overall a dumb idea? this is the same as an ewallet almost.
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what is the advantage of this over having real keys on paper.
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are private and public keys case sensitive? if they are not then i could probably eventually memorize 1 key pair.
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don't waste your time, it would be far easier to export signed transactions.
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i personally would not take anything made by apple, or Microsoft for that matter as secure. safari is one of the least secure browsers you can get, and lately a lot of exploits have been found on simple things like laptop batteries lawl.
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i don't think anyone has learned anything.
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i put the pthreadVC2.lib file in C:\pthreads-win32 from making pthreads the vanitygen make file is the original. i am very confused Your pthreads dir certainly looks complete. Try renaming c:\pthreads-win32 to c:\pthreads-w32. If you're up for it, send me a /msg on freenode, same nickname. that worked now i get LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'C:\pthreads-w32\pthread.lib' this is probably from me now knowing how to change it to use the other lib file.
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i put the pthreadVC2.lib file in C:\pthreads-win32 from making pthreads and it complains about vanitygen.c(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'pthread.h': No s uch file or directory Directory of C:\pthreads-win32 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 15,359 FAQ 08/06/2011 04:46 AM <DIR> include 08/06/2011 04:46 AM <DIR> lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,608 libpthreadGC2.a 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,614 libpthreadGCE2.a 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 99 MAINTAINERS 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 132 md5.sum 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 38,603 NEWS 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 142 PROGRESS 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 43,162 pthread.h 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 60,273 pthreadGC2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 112,556 pthreadGCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,070 pthreadVC2.dll 08/06/2011 05:18 AM 75,986 pthreadVC2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 77,879 pthreadVCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVCE2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,071 pthreadVSE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVSE2.lib 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 4,844 sched.h 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 4,429 semaphore.h 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 7,904 WinCE-PORT the vanitygen make file is the original. i am very confused
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@echo off oclvanitygen.exe -kqi -d 0 -o file 1 pause Error loading CL kernel: No such file or directory Press any key to continue . . . i probably am not passing the proper parameters to oclvanitygen.exe some more stuff to get it to build i renamed pthreadVSE2.lib to pthread.lib i think. it complained that it could not find it so i just picked that one lol. CC = cl OPENSSL_DIR = C:\OpenSSL-Win32 PTHREADS_DIR = C:\pthreads-w32 PCRE_DIR = C:\pcre-7.9-src OPENCL_DIR = "C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP" OPENCL_INCLUDE = /I$(OPENCL_DIR)\include OPENCL_LIBS = $(OPENCL_DIR)\lib\x86\OpenCL.lib CFLAGS = /D_WIN32 /DPTW32_STATIC_LIB /DPCRE_STATIC /I$(OPENSSL_DIR)\include /I$(PTHREADS_DIR) /I$(PCRE_DIR) LIBS = $(OPENSSL_DIR)\lib\libeay32.lib $(PTHREADS_DIR)\pthread.lib $(PCRE_DIR)\pcre.lib ws2_32.lib OBJS = vanitygen.obj oclvanitygen.obj pattern.obj winglue.obj
all: vanitygen.exe
vanitygen.exe: vanitygen.obj pattern.obj winglue.obj link /nologo /out:$@ $** $(LIBS)
oclvanitygen.exe: oclvanitygen.obj pattern.obj winglue.obj link /nologo /out:$@ $** $(LIBS) $(OPENCL_LIBS)
.c.obj: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) /c /Tp$< /Fo$@
oclvanitygen.obj: oclvanitygen.c $(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(OPENCL_INCLUDE) /c /Tpoclvanitygen.c /Fo$@
clean: del vanitygen.exe $(OBJS)
en.obj pattern.obj winglue.obj C: \OpenSSL-Win32\lib\libeay32.lib C:\pthreads-w32\pthread.lib C:\pcre-7.9-src\pcre .lib ws2_32.lib link /nologo /out:oclvanitygen.exe oclvanitygen.obj pattern.obj winglue. obj C:\OpenSSL-Win32\lib\libeay32.lib C:\pthreads-w32\pthread.lib C:\pcre-7.9-sr c\pcre.lib ws2_32.lib "C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD APP"\lib\x86\OpenCL.lib i moved the src folder to the root to make it easier. i removed /DPTW32_STATIC_LIB and it builds, but still requires the dll.
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im trying to build it for windows and im running into some issues, this is the first time i ever tried to make anything bigger than wget. i downloaded and installed all the list things but i run into issues when i want to build Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC>cd C:\Users\testbed\Deskt op\New folder\src
C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src>nmake /fMakefile.Win32 vanitygen.exe ocl vanitygen.exe
Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
cl /D_WIN32 /DPTW32_STATIC_LIB /DPCRE_STATIC /IC:\OpenSSL-Win32\include /IC:\pthreads-w32 /IC:\pcre-7.9-src /c /Tpvanitygen.c /Fovanitygen.obj Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00.30319.01 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
vanitygen.c vanitygen.c(24) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'pthread.h': No s uch file or directory NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0 \VC\BIN\cl.EXE"' : return code '0x2' Stop.
C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src> this is a clean windows 7 x64 VM. i guess im having trouble setting the cflags, i dont know what they are i guess. C:\>dir Volume in drive C has no label.
Directory of C:\
08/05/2011 09:52 PM <DIR> OpenSSL-Win32 08/05/2011 10:13 PM <DIR> pcre-7.9-src 08/05/2011 10:55 PM <DIR> pthread-w32 24 File(s) 3,169,847 bytes 8 Dir(s) 86,889,963,520 bytes free
C:\>cd pthread-w32
C:\pthread-w32>dir
Directory of C:\pthread-w32
08/05/2011 10:55 PM <DIR> . 08/05/2011 10:55 PM <DIR> .. 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 14,188 ANNOUNCE 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 6,041 BUGS 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 184,885 ChangeLog 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 5,078 CONTRIBUTORS 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 5,939 COPYING 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 26,934 COPYING.LIB 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 15,359 FAQ 08/05/2011 10:54 PM <DIR> include 08/05/2011 10:54 PM <DIR> lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,608 libpthreadGC2.a 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,614 libpthreadGCE2.a 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 99 MAINTAINERS 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 132 md5.sum 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 38,603 NEWS 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 142 PROGRESS 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 43,162 pthread.h 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 60,273 pthreadGC2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 112,556 pthreadGCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,070 pthreadVC2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,280 pthreadVC2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 77,879 pthreadVCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVCE2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,071 pthreadVSE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVSE2.lib 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 22,520 README 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 2,595 README.Borland 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 89,774 README.CV 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 12,014 README.NONPORTABLE 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 2,349 README.Watcom 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 220 README.WinCE 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 4,844 sched.h 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 4,429 semaphore.h 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 217 TODO 12/19/2006 10:00 PM 7,904 WinCE-PORT 32 File(s) 1,177,579 bytes 4 Dir(s) 86,889,963,520 bytes free
C:\pthread-w32> if you need anymore info i can supply it, or just provide a windows binary and that will make me happy too edit: well the problem above was a missing s on pthread s-w32 now i get Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC>cd C:\Users\testbed\Deskt op\New folder\src
C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src>nmake /fMakefile.Win32 vanitygen.exe ocl vanitygen.exe
Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
cl /D_WIN32 /DPTW32_STATIC_LIB /DPCRE_STATIC /IC:\OpenSSL-Win32\include /IC:\pthreads-w32 /IC:\pcre-7.9-src /c /Tpvanitygen.c /Fovanitygen.obj Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00.30319.01 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
vanitygen.c vanitygen.c(26) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'openssl/sha.h': No such file or directory NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0 \VC\BIN\cl.EXE"' : return code '0x2' Stop.
C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src> I fixed that problem by using Win32OpenSSL-1_0_0d.exe and not the lite version. now i get C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src>nmake /fMakefile.Win32 vanitygen.exe ocl vanitygen.exe
Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version 10.00.30319.01 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
link /nologo /out:vanitygen.exe vanitygen.obj pattern.obj winglue.obj C: \OpenSSL-Win32\lib\libeay32.lib C:\pthreads-w32\pthread.lib C:\pcre-7.9-src\pcre .lib ws2_32.lib LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file 'C:\pthreads-w32\pthread.lib'
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: '"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0 \VC\BIN\link.EXE"' : return code '0x49d' Stop.
C:\Users\testbed\Desktop\New folder\src> I can not find pthread.lib anywhere. Directory of C:\pthreads-w32 08/05/2011 10:54 PM <DIR> include 08/05/2011 10:54 PM <DIR> lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,608 libpthreadGC2.a 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 89,614 libpthreadGCE2.a 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 60,273 pthreadGC2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 112,556 pthreadGCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,070 pthreadVC2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,280 pthreadVC2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 77,879 pthreadVCE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVCE2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 86,071 pthreadVSE2.dll 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVSE2.lib
Directory of C:\pthreads-w32\lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,280 pthreadVC2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVCE2.lib 12/21/2006 10:00 PM 29,400 pthreadVSE2.lib
C:\pthreads-w32\lib>C:\ i managed to get a working .exe but it requires pthreadVSE2.dll to be in the same dir as vanitygen.exe, also i can not seem to get oclvanitygen.exe to work.
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actually
1. use tor 2. bit laundry on tor hidden service 3. everyone sends coins to the laundry 4. laundry sends back 99% of the coins, keeps 1% for fee 5. profit
you only have to trust that the laundry does not keep logs, and does not go out of their way to catch criminals.
You also have to make sure that the funds aren't sent back to you in a predictable manner, either. All they need to do is give everyone the same public key to send the coins to, and tell the laundry service what public key to send them back to. this would obviously be a brand new key. there could also be different levels of security that cost more. level 1 would just dump many people coins in the same address and send them back once enough have been collected. level 2 could collect a bunch together and send them into an exchange for a day or so and get them back. level 3 could send them to and from many services. obviously every time this is done it gets more costly. again, all records would have to be erased after each process.
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