People who dwell on the negative, never achieve anything. They will be the first to be replaced by bots.

The evidence of progress made is clear. Check out the forum for the latest at https://safenetforum.org/

 

hmm there is no sport in such easy challenge  

Your bitcointalk ID is 7 digits long!.. I don't tend to talk to noobs

If you became interested in 2010 like I did you would have signed up to this forum.. so, I expect perhaps you caught on 2013.

It is 2020 now.

> ARPANET adopted TCP/IP on January 1, 1983, and from there researchers began to assemble the “network of networks” that became the modern Internet. The online world then took on a more recognizable form in 1990, when computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web.

Your talk of Gopher, Veronica and Archie, reminds me of 1994..

Do math.

Also, I have fond memories of Gopher and X.

Still maidsafe is doing wonders in progressing this and the next round of testing is likely to be joined sections - that is huge. Downhill from there.


To be honest I wonder the cryptogeneration is lazy and wanting immediate returns for zero effort.

This is one of the most interesting projects out there.. by a mile!

If you want to level fair criticism, then log a few bugs.

Check out the latest tools on the safenetforum 2nd Apr and later posts and look to feedback through maidsafe's github.. and development will be all the faster for it.

Omni Layer: Activation of trading any pair on the distributed exchange

MaidSafeCoin <-> BTC


More at
https://blog.omni.foundation/2020/04/09/activation-of-trading-any-pair-on-the-distributed-exchange/
https://twitter.com/Omni_Layer/status/1248322647500488704?s=20

Reasons to be cheerful

 

We're all keen to see a final release but creating something robust, does take time and testing.

If you want to contribute, then keep up to date on the forum and submit a few bug reports towards repositories at https://github.com/maidsafe/ or feedback on the safenetforum.

Anyone can test their experience of what is being released each week against they expectation and feedback.

The mobile browser; desktop browser; commandline interface, all progressing well and at pace.

Get on the forum and look for the update category = https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates/

The more contributions from those interested and who understand the potential, the faster it'll be out and available for everyone else.  

Download SAFE’s latest versions

SAFE Browser from https://github.com/maidsafe/safe_browser/releases/tag/v0.17.0-alpha.1
and the Command Line Interface (CLI) can be downloaded and installed using the install script
and see Baby Fleming Public Shared Section for the first post walk through of how to connect the CLI for then creating accounts and uploading webpages etc.

See also SAFE Network Dev Update - April 2, 2020 suggests new mobile browser https://github.com/maidsafe/safe-mobile-browser/releases/tag/0.4.0

SAFE Network Dev Update - April 2, 2020


see the full update at SAFE Network Dev Update - April 2, 2020

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Fold against Corona (team: Maidsafe)

Coronavirus – What we’re doing and how you can help
https://foldingathome.org/covid19/

https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/

    Group name: MaidSafe
    Team number: 257148

for more see https://safenetforum.org/t/fold-against-corona-team-maidsafe/31380/

A note from the MaidSafe Foundation on the current Covid-19 pandemic

Activities for three age groups


for more see today's developer update at https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-dev-update-march-26-2020/31360

SAFE Network Dev update .. 5th March 2020



https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-dev-update-march-5-2020/31227

 

Yes, well spotted.. it's disappointing but business is business.

Also, surely it's equally true that
> It's time for Bitfinex to list Maidsafe.

Buyers and sellers will come to markets that are available. It's surely fair to expect any admins running an exchange, should know well already that this is a key project in the ecosystem and longstanding and with potential to spark interest from all flavours of buyers.

 New Release: SAFE Authenticator v0.2.0 & SAFE Mobile browser v0.3.0

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=w%20e
> Stands for "whatever". Used mostly by bitches with a poor attitude.

 

Anyhow, any excuse to bump this useful thread up from the clutter that bitcointalk crams into only one board! I do wish they would sort wheat from chaf!!

Reminder:
HowTo: Move your MAID from an exchange (Poloniex before January 30th, 2020)
https://safenetforum.org/t/howto-move-your-maid-from-an-exchange-poloniex-before-january-30th-2020/30657
Option to just withdraw straight to my Chainrift deposit address (or any other exchange with sense to support MAID)

Chainrift are working on getting included in that detail.. they're now listed in the exchanges if you search for them but they have CMC's hoops to jump.
=>  https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/chainrift/


Refer to my previous answer: Putting up the MAID to fuel an exchange is a big ask, when everyone who knows is holding.
If you're fighting Bitfinex's corner, argue with them about why they don't take the initiative to list MAID for themselves. All they need to do is put up the MAID themselves. It's an open competition.. if they did that they could take the advantage.. the reason Chainrift is an option now, is because they noted the opportunity when Poloniex fouled up. See your opportunity and take it.. that's business. Us users just prefer what is made available and useful.

All exchanges should be wanting to associate with SAFE project, just for the kudos.

The medium term is obviously a transition to SAFE network hosting the currency but exchanges would do well get established, as option then to become a well used bridge of fiat to safecoins on the network.

Download SAFE’s latest versions
https://safenetforum.org/t/download-safes-latest-versions/30904

Plenty there to play with for those looking for an opportunity to contribute.

Not obvious what the variables are but at a glance it makes sense to note that MAID is way undervalued by the market. Too many looking for a quick fix and not investing with sense for what the projects or developers are doing. Good to see then some level of criticism measuring across projects. SAFE will only do well if the reality is reflected.

 

Fallacy: false equivalence. 

Bitfinex perhaps should choose to do so themselves.
The devs are busy and not minded to pander to traders but I would like to see MAID more easily available and more widely known.
Chainrift seems to have committed to seeing them through to the exchange onto the SAFE network once that's stable and proven for adopting currency.. which is nice. Putting up the MAID to fuel an exchange is a big ask when everyone who knows is holding.
But yeah.. more exchanges the better for price and the underlying funding for the project.

Those who have no contribution to make, do think a lot of their opinion. The world will forget the like of Geoffrey Birtz, if that is the best he suggests!

Negative feedback is useful for making systems robust but there is nothing like understanding an opportunity and supporting a project directly.

Nothing gets created in a vacuum .. you support development; you get reward.
SAFE is an important project with great potential to affect the world.

Greed is not good, regardless of what the boomers and opportunists might tell you.

In a world full now of alsorts of crypto currency, there are truely very few projects that can evidence any vision and quality of progress like this one.

To invest, get your BTC over to https://www.chainrift.com/trading?coinpair=MAID/BTC& and buy some MAID.
for background see https://safenetwork.tech/ and the forum at https://safenetforum.org/

Criticism is as easy as lazy cynicism..

The roadmap is not a timeline and the core devs have rightly shyed away from making the error of suggesting when each foot will fall. Pandering to day trading is an error too many projects make.

Still, there  is talk of when to expect the next round of testing.. calendar for 2020 branded as Fleming which is a big step we've been looking forward to.


That's a lazy understanding.. you would do well taking a closer look. Maidsafe is set to establish the network but there is no intent for centralised control that would become corrupt, as such basic concepts are well understood and to be avoided. We only need to look to  gov orgs to recognise the risk of stagnation and error following from good intentions! Complexity and new tools do not arise to provide base platform without focused single team but what is spawned should work well as an autonomous network.

If all you look to is current price then you are missing an opportunity to support real progress and a brighter future.

Being cynical is lazy..

The reality is that there is always going to be a mix of interests in play.
All development worthwhile takes time and hard work.
The progress this year speaks for itself and promises a very interesting 2020.

You have to be realistic to see a return of any kind, be it profit in the value of tokens or utility.


It is not hypocritical, it is practical!.. obviously.

The option to use real safecoin on the SAFE network does not exist just yet and the engagement from Chainrift has already noted that its short term and they will assist with the bridge moving coins from Omni to SAFE.

wtf is BISQ.. if there's a good option that you're keen on, then promote it to those who might make use of it.. but tools are just that, they need users.

As above, there will be many different interests in play.. like it or not, a lot about BTC is those looking to make profit by trading coins.

The reality behind the markets is that projects need funding and that is the key reason MAID exists. That it's maintained its position reflects the wide support from those who understand the importance and value of privacy; security; and freedom - Honi soit qui mal y pense..

We need tools that support individuals realising their own privacy; security; and freedom and no other project I've seen, is doing that in any meaningful way that has such real potential. All projects have their detractors but be fair and note the real intent.

ChainRift can be a place where people can dump the balance of their Maid tokens..
 and it can be a place that those who understand the value of such a project as Maidsafe requires support and provides opportunity for a growth in value too.

Again consider that speed at which they received support when they ask for it.. within a day they had twice as much as needed. Yes, tokens are conceptually worthless until they are on SAFE.. you can't eat them.. but if you're going to argue against MAID, then argue against all coins ..
think differently and "be real"

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Anyhow, I was just passing to note by very positive experience using Chainrift .. was as good as Poloniex used to be.
https://www.chainrift.com/trading?coinpair=MAID/BTC&#

Having been here since Nov2010.. Maidsafe working to develop the SAFE Network is the single best project I've seen.
See https://safenetwork.tech/ and the forum at https://safenetforum.org/ for more.

 

from the forum https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-update-november-2019/30262

They are all focused atm with development.. there's been a lot of good work over the last year.. hopefully they can get to a release that removes dependency on 3rd parties.. which is the whole point of course. A trusted network is a whole new kind of option for alsorts of solutions.