I'm not really angry. For a long time I was laughing at fluffypony, and I told him so. It's so obvious how wrong they are that past a certain point you just have to pat them on the head and say "there, there".

Then why do people pay you to troll me?

Just to be clear, you have been writing dozens of incredibly hostile posts slamming me because you misread a news release.

How much are they paying you to troll me *this time* pankakke?

Sorry, I don't know. I was told they're working on it.

I had it set up on cron. Presumably if I had the server address, username and password (or whatever) in the cron file, I could restore the backups myself. Maybe I'll fire off another e-mail to the team and ask them about it.

"should".

Actually no, I'm pretty sure you are a troll. What have you ever done for the community except whine?

Yeah but you're a troll. You posted whiney garbage about how much you hate me. Congratulations -- nobody cares.



So let me get this straight. Despite being completely aware we didn't lose anything except what amounts to the price of a new backup system (because we bought it) you want to fly off the handle and call me a fucking idiot? Wow, it must be nice to be anonymous.


Because it was a KVM i.e. not shared, non-production system which was not being developed or used.

You know this, yet you are still an asshole. Hmm. Interesting.

1. The problem is, "a couple of USB sticks" are no safer, and may in fact be less safe, than remote off-site backups. It may not look that way to you, but I deal with a lot of data and I have seen a lot of corrupted USB sticks. I have never seen a remote array for backups go down. So how much should be spent? A "home" solution like a DS-4 is what I decided to go with, and I know for a fact this system is going to be less reliable than the kind of remote backups I had previously. Keep in mind. This is not a production system nor is it any kind of "main wallet". It was the claim address I used for GLBSE several years ago. Do you understand now?

2. I don't know. The last update I have is that there is someone looking for the disk right now.

But frankly I don't even care. I was much more worried about the time I had spent writing all those wordpress plugins and the lost content of my obligatory gaijin/chinglish blog. Don't get the wrong idea -- I'm not being uncaring or flippant -- it's others that are reading far, far too much into what happened.

The main point of the announcement was so that people didn't send any money to the old claim address. I don't see any serious problems remaining to discuss -- do you?

Deal.


Sorry, I thought we weren't going to talk about twentyseventy? Read what I wrote in the OP here.  What I have to say is very clear.

That's a good question. But what does it have to do with the update for BMF?

You understand what I wrote in the OP, right? Okay. Now look at what twentyseventy is saying. It is all coming from him. I don't deny I wrote it at all, that is not what I mean. I am simply saying he has no interest in the truth and would rather trumpet a meaningless troll than read what I wrote in the OP.

These people repeat the same time-wasting rubbish about me literally three times every day. They had their say, I had my response, but for them, it is not enough. They have this need to keep posting, and posting, and posting...

Take a look at the above two posts and you will realize why I prefer self-moderated threads.

Based on the amount of trolling in the unmoderated thread, I feel it is important to notify the community of updates to this situation in a new thread.

In any case I am sorry if people feel I was irresponsible. However it remains my position that people feel this way because they have a severely incomplete and warped idea of what happened.

One of the big mistakes people seem to have made is seizing upon the number $10,000 and the word "wallet" as if I had said I had $10,000 in the wallet. I did not say that. In fact $10,000 would be the worst case upper end; in reality I panicked a little (remember the OP?) and the number should have been closer to $5,000.

I also did not claim I was using RAID as a backup. I did not say that. I mentioned the server and the backup were hosted on RAID because of how the server went down. The actual fact it was a RAID array is inconsequential. A hard drive could be pulled even if it was not in a RAID array. It boggles my mind how people could not have read what I wrote.

Another claim is that I had "edited dates on the fly" because I had made an obvious mistake and typed "May" instead of "March", and in the edit I used strikethrough instead of just replacing the word. A reading of the post would have implied this anyways because most of what was written was an explanation of the actions I took since the server went down two months ago. It boggles my mind how people could not have read what I wrote.

More than one person even stated I was a known criminal who had previously (as well as this time) absconded with bitcoins. Of course by this point you have to laugh -- seeing how far people have fallen.

The actual wallet had few bitcoins -- certainly less than three -- if anything. The code? Nothing was in production.

I was completely justified in the backup solution I chose. The term realized losses referred to lost costs for the server's downtime and what I had paid for into the future, as well as lost time, lost code, lost content, IP, etc. Not the coins in the wallet. In fact I am pretty sure there was almost nothing there. The big thing is that in the future, should HashKing decide to send us our 500 BTC back, we need to provide a well-known public statement to show that we no longer have access to the wallet. That is the only reason the post was made. We cannot have HashKing (or anyone else) claiming "Oh, well we sent the money back but I guess you screwed up!"

Now that I have recovered everything except the wallet file the actual loss should be pegged at less than $2,000, twelve hundred of which is the cost point of our new backup system. And I have covered the contingency of a future loss with people like Hashking.

Remember the OP?

Guys. fucking relax.

No they aren't. 

See IRC logs above.



You just admitted you have been fully aware this process might take several years and you have been okay with that until this point. What changed your mind? I've been in communication with you all this time, doing my best for you, giving you money under the table towards what you are owed to the best of my ability, with the express understanding from you that you will not tell people I have been doing that. You have broken your promise to me. I was treating you like a special customer.

Secondly you've accused me of scamming you and lying to you. Thirdly at the worst time, when I am having troll problems on another thread. Hey, thanks!

Oh come on -- you mean you just "happened" to log in and respond to this after three months of not being online? You mean nothing brought you back here? Come on, tsp. I know.

Let me be blunt with you. Because of what you have written here I can no longer give you special treatment, and I certainly will not be buying out your shares privately or otherwise separate from every other investor. I'm sorry but you screwed this up badly; why should I help you out of my own pocket? You knew the deal, you knew what was going on, and you decide to take a stab at me over this publicly now? Do you want me to dump the rest of the logs I have? You look like a fool, you know that?

I offered to buy your remaining shares out on IRC over a year ago and you didn't accept (see logs above). It's far too late now that you've launched a public campaign over this. Especially considering what I have done for you.






Don't be a "fucking" retard, and watch your language with me. You lied because you said I scammed you. Get it? Do you want me to pull quotes from #bitcoin-assets too?



But this was one time. The GLBSE shutdown was one time. Of course I have learned a lot. Have you learned not to lie yet? You say this has been ongoing since 2012. Are you on drugs? After the shitstorm ian bakewell, bitcoinoz, eskimobob and deprived (all well-known asset scammers now) started so they didn't have to pay me back for what I had invested in them (and other reasons) yes, I did learn a lot.

I learned that when this sort of thing happens, the first thing that needs to be done is ask the person to retract their statement and apologize. So thestringpuller, I am going to need to ask you to retract your statements that I am a scammer (and that I have failed to live up to my contracts, etc.) and apologize. You may do so privately if you wish, in PM, and I won't publish it.

Point well taken -- "This" makes me seem totally irresponsible. But the problem is there is a lot you don't understand. You were given a news release and an overtrolled community response. Here's the deal; we had regular, weekly, off-site backups. Even if someone got a hold of the backups they would be unable to take money out of the wallet without the password. And despite people claiming I said "RAID is not a backup" I did not say that. The server is kept on a RAID and so is the backup for access and reduncancy. That does not mean RAID is a backup. It means the server and the backup were on a RAID array. The only reason I mentioned RAID at all was to point out how the server went down. It is otherwise inconsequential. What kind of troll would twist what I said into a claim I believed "RAID was a backup?" Preposterous.

I also kept secondary backups at home. I just finished running through backups of 8 or 9 different wallets. Unfortunately the server's wallet was kept on a local hard drive which had recently failed. Which just goes to show you that nothing is immune; I've had USB drives fail on me before as well. Especially tails partitions, which is a perfect place to keep wallet backups.

But let me tell you what this is really about.  People seem to have seized upon the number $10,000 and the word "wallet" as if I had said I had $10,000 in the wallet. I did not say that. In fact someone on IRC told me I had said that (it was fluffypony, more on him below) -- when I pointed out to him that I did not say that, he told me "his point still stands" -- no, it does not stand. It never did. It was a troll. You KNOW it was a troll because of the ridiculous, stupid things people said about my post, such as I was lazy and retarded because had "edited dates on the fly". Please. Don't you realize how dumb that sounds? The only reason I didn't just delete the line is because I have integrity and wanted to show I had made a mistake in my post. Lord knows you don't want trolls stating "OMG he changed the date!! He's a liar!" because oh wow, 10 seconds between edits makes a lie. Nevermind the fact that actually reading the post you would realize the words "May 29th" were a mistake because I mention that the server went down two months ago and half the story is how I have been trying to recover it since then. People, think.

The actual wallet had few bitcoins -- certainly less than three -- if anything. Nothing was in production. I was completely justified in the backup solution I chose. When I said realized losses it was a specific financial term. Now that I have pointed that out I expect you to look it up on investopedia and to understand what I said. What I said was (in short form), we marked down the remaining value of our server and IP, plus the lost data in man hours. Easily $10,000. I had lost at least two weeks' worth of coding. It does not mean the company lost $10,000. In fact, what you should have read from this is that I was exceedingly competent in judging the amount of money we spent on our backup system based on how much was lost.

Now that I have recovered everything except the wallet file the actual loss should be pegged at less than $2,000, twelve hundred of which is the cost point of our new backup system.

Remember the OP?

Now let's take things from the troll's point of view, to show just how stupid they have been. How would people have felt if I had posted "We had a server crash, but our $10,000 backup system luckily saved the day!!" You should feel horrified, but instead you probably would feel elated that someone had the good idea to properly back things up. In the industry we call this "ass-backwards". It's difficult to understand, I know, but we lost less money in this crash than we would have if we had initially purchased a $10,000 backup system. And, as mentioned several times now, I just spent $1200 on a new DS-4 and drives. I assure you that this is a risk vs. reward scenario and that there is no one better qualified to explain this to you than ME.

The other thing is the security of the "web wallet". Which had not been under development or production for more than one year. It's last activity was being sold to someone on the OTC network. They couldn't get it to work so I offered them a full refund. What a noble thing for me to do, step out like that for members of the community.

This is what I find so humorous about people like floppypony and team -- they just don't get it. I did the all the right things -- including not overspending on financially unjustifiable redundancy. But it gets worse. Did you know fluffypony is actually a well-known scammer who has ripped off dozens of people with his openrigs scam? I know -- what's he even doing here?

"Extensive research has uncovered many users complaining about not receiving their orders. Out of all 20 users I found, only two users ever received their frame. One of the users who received his frame stated that its build quality was very poor, and included pictures to substantiate their claims."

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2590id/hello_members_of_the_cryptocurrency_community/
https://www.bitcoinregime.com/2014/05/10/hello-members-of-the-cryptocurrency-community-important-info-about-openrigs-scam-please-read/

You're right, I have.

Anyone who reads this thread will instantly realize it is of no value.

If you want me to care, post on the BMF thread. I won't respond to trolls here.

Let me educate you because you seem like an honest gentleman.

This is a troll thread. Everyone, including you, seems to understand that the rule is "don't post in the official BMF thread" because usagi is not interested in responding to bullshit accusations. What do you want me to do, go back in time? Seriously, tell me -- what do you want me to do? Oh, and do it in the official thread.

If you don't have the guts to post in the official BMF thread, then you are admitting you have nothing except rumor and innuendo. I have demonstrated I will let people have their fair say in my thread.

No it doesn't stand, and you are seriously not worth my time.

what the hell are you talking about? The reply is *above your post*.

Seriously -- you guys need to get a life. Your stupidity is palpable.