How i can check the hash of attestation in explorer.byteball.org? It's easier to find the attestations with https://byteball.co/ because it shows every attestor who has attested that address (just go to each address profile page and click Attestations tab). Difficult to do that with https://explorer.byteball.org/ if you do not know the Unit ID that attested them, explorer.byteball.org is good for looking up what financial transactions this address has done, byteball.co doesn't show financial transactions. You can't check what name is behind that hash without them sharing their private profile to your bot, but if the hash is unique then it means that different firstname/lastname/birthday/country was used to create that hash. |
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Good research! Well imo this is cheating, the "real-name attestation" rule should not be abused by 1 person to create over 100X "real-name attestations" to get a significant advantage on the lottery. Someone should really check the validity of his "real-name attestations" which is obviously fraud. Anyway the "real-name attestation" rule is somehow designed to abuse it, should be deactivated as soon as possible and replaced by something else if needed. It doesn't really matter if that is technically cheating or not, morally it is and given the fact that such exploits are possible the team should immediately address this issue and avoid such exploits being possible or postpone the lottery and change the rules so as to guarantee it to be fair. Or else just lose another piece of community, which I suspect is NOT the purpose of this initiative. All the address that I checked via https://byteball.co/ and https://explorer.byteball.org/ show that these are unique attestations (user_id is a hash of firstname, lastname, birthday, country). So it is not 100% sure if it's 1 person, it could also be group of people who have made it their goal to have as many attested addresses taking part of the draw. What is funny for me is that when it would have happen with anonymous addresses then we couldn't even see that something is out of place, but thanks to real-name-attestation, we can see from explorer that these are all different people, but funded with 10GB by same person. Hopefully, if they win (would be epic if they don't), they also spread the winning amounts to all the people who participated in it by signing up with their attested wallet. If they don't, then it's more clear if it was one person with lot of stolen identities. But then again, maybe this one person keeps the bytes while rewarding the participants with fiat currency, we can't really tell. |
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1. This link to the page which explains the new distribution is quite hidden - not on OP, not on Website, how are people supposed to find it? https://medium.com/byteball/weekly-draw-for-the-byteball-community-f464ae731c882, On this page the main issue is to convince people to attest their name, as for explaining what to do to partecipate, this is all what you can find: Add the Draw Airdrop bot from the Bot Store inside your Byteball wallet and follow the instructions. Good luck! 3. Such a pity that there are no instructions anywhere - so indeed you really need luck, but not to win, just to partecipate. All what I could do in my wallet is to open the chat of that bot. Having zero instructions to follow I've introduced in the chat my wallet address and the only result is that an error mistake has popped up An exception occurred: Error: [$parse:syntax] Syntax Error: Token ']' is unexpected, expecting [)] at column 47 of the expression etc etc. ...after which the wallet has crashed. 4. Now, every time I start Draw Airdrop bot I'm immediately getting the same mistake and the wallet crashes. No way to use that bot any more. I must say I'm impressed. On top of that I see that people are already exploiting the rules in a disgusting way. Who is the genius who has designed this stuff? Update to latest wallet version v2.6.0 |
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If the project regime is stupid it is up to the community to lead the project to success.
If the community can't, it's not better. That the rebranding took two years is because of these idiots.
And that's where you are wrong. You think like a terrorist, but in reality, if you do not like the choices that has been made then you are free to fork the project and do it better. The rebranding doesn't guarantee a name that everybody thinks is better, there could still be people who say that the new name is stupid, so people like you who think this way will damage the project no matter the name is or whatever the choices have been made. Seriously, go do something yourself, so at least other people could have the same opportunity to tell how bad your execution is, right now you are just criticizing people who actually do something, not just talk sh!t about others. |
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Once upon a time, BYTEBALL was a promising project, but free distribution of coins based on BTC is a mistake, which we now see. If the project claims to be a competitor to Bitcoin, then why depend on Bitcoin. Hope others will take this lesson into account.
Without Bitcoin, it is very likely that there wouldn't be Byteball and many other cryptocurrencies today because Byteball and many other cryptocurrencies use same open-source libraries that Bitcoin community has written, so it is not totally unheard of that new cryptocurrencies distribute coins to Bitcoin users, where there is already large userbase. Next time, come up with better distribution, share it with the community, stop moaning about some old distribution that was long time ago and use the current distribution methods that are available now. |
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You are right on this. But since I believe that only morons are waisting their time playing lotteries, this kind of distribution tends anyway to reward the unwise part of the community, ie those who like to play lotteries. And I guess that the likeness is high that winners might just insta-dump their winned coins. We'll see...
You do understand that it is not like actual lottery? Because you do put your GBYTE in stake. Lottery is usually where you win a lot or you loose all. |
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do. I guess this is the part all of the wise part of the community is not ready to do, so this distribution is targeting to reward the unwise part of the community. This is a pity. What makes you think that? 1 GBYTE = 1 point is only for the first 10 GBYTE, those who have less bytes don't mind doing the KYC, but there are also many un-attested addresses with over 100GB. Attested 10GB would have same amount points as un-attested 100GB. Attested 100GB would have same amount points as un-attested 190GB. Attested 1000GB would have same amount points as un-attested 1090GB. So, this bot is more pro staying un-attested if you are rich and pro-KYC if you not rich. |
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Anyone who sees more in crypto currencies than Fiat winnings wants nothing to do with KYC.
Fiat => regulated markets (KYC)
Crypto => unregulated markets (no KYC)
Byteball + regulated markets (KYC) = unsuccessful and worthless
Byteball + unregulated markets (no KYC) = successful, valuable and very fast and widely spread
Everything is not that black and white. It is astonishing how narrow-minded some people can be. There are many people who doesn't want to do illegal stuff, but would like to invest in cryptocurrencies, so they need KYC to deposit fiat currencies to exchange. It is perfectly normal if somebody wants to take their initial investment out to something more stable, so they will need KYC to withdraw fiat currencies to their bank. Mass adoption will come from people who don't want to evade taxes, but that can take years. Even when cryptocurrencies are mainstream, there still be traditional banks and fiat currencies. Cryptocurrencies are not about trading illegal sh!t, it's about the ability to transact without intermediates and hold keys to your own digital vault. |
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do. Is the problem just Jumio or any KYC service? this is a problem for many people. Why would you want to share your balances with Jumio or any KYC service? They can sell your data to criminals, share with government. Data can be stolen. And you become a target for $5 attack. Hmm, no, you are not sharing your balance with Jumio or any KYC service. They will have the copy of your passport, it is not they who post the attestation hash, that's the bot, which is controlled by Tony. |
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You reveal your identity only to Jumio That part is clear to me, and that's the part I'm not ready to do. Is the problem just Jumio or any KYC service? |
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Too bad the difference for attested addresses is that high. I'd love to get 10 times more points and enjoy the "non-whale benefits", but I prefer to remain anonymous.
You reveal your identity only to Jumio, all real name attestations are private on Byteball DAG. Or have you managed to use cryptocurrencies without revealing anything about you? Even the email you use on exchange can be traced back to you. Do you use TOR everywhere? Or you suspect that real name attestation could be bugged and you reveal yourself to Tony? |
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So it is impossible to add multiple addresses to the draw ? We have to send all bytes to the one addresses that's added?
BTW tonych, you should remove at least the lisk/iconomi from the draw, that does nothing for the people.
It is possible. You have to delete last address from my_addresses table. I wouldn't manipulate the database like that. If you have wallet that has multiple addresses, just send all the funds to the address displayed in Receive tab, do that with each wallet you have. You don't have to send all the wallets into one wallet, you can add to draw bot each wallet current address separately. |
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when i sent my address to airdrop bot i got this error An exception occurred: Error: [$parse:syntax] Syntax Error: Token ']' is unexpected, expecting [)] at column 47 of the expression [sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a>] starting at []</a>]. http://errors.angularjs.org/1.6.6/$parse/syntax?p0=%5D&p1=is%20unexpected%2C%20expecting%20%5B)%5D&p2=47&p3=sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5'%5D%3C%2Fa%3E&p4=%5D%3C%2Fa%3E; cause: <a ng-click="sendPayment('4IESIVJWFJ5HDMGVWUCANO3V4PL6ZYM5']</a> and OK button now wallet always closes after pressing OK You are probably on v2.5 or earlier, download v2.6 wallet app. |
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The project seems to be so unpopular in the meantime that not even people who want to clone it can be found anymore.
Maybe the problem is you that nobody wants to implement your idea. There has been plenty of people who have forked Byteball (just look at the Github repository), some even have done the branding, rebuilt the wallet and everything, but I have not followed up how many actually alive. |
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i do not believe that the people who decided that are that stupid. On the contrary, they are smart enough to see that this lottery will be beneficial only to people who invested fiat cash. Otherwise there is no other way of gathering so much Byteball. Here is my logic: 1. All Crypto bleeds heavily. Byteball too. 2. Fresh money is needed. 3. Lets find a way to bring more fresh money into Byteball 4. Let's put a big award to everyone who has so much Byteball that the only way he can aquired them is by buying them. 5. We'll call it "honest, decentralized, fair" etc untill people believe it is 6. We'll ask then for KYC, all the people with a little amount of Byteball will just quit, because it is not worth it. That way we'll have more chance for the rich. 7. Success! Coin dies  Do you realize that you FUD has holes in it? Are you suggesting Byteball is dumping huge amounts of GBYTE on exchanges? There is only 3 600 GBYTE on sale on Bittrex vs 60 000 GBYTE that people want to buy and huge buy wall has been up for a week now https://international.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-GBYTEAnd even then, it is not against fiat cash, it is a BTC pair. Only way you can get GBYTE for cash is via the creditcard bot, which is not operated by Byteball, but Indacoin. I don't like the distribution either, but I don't talk sh|t about it either because this what the community asked for, lottery distribution to existing bagholders. I guess you can't satisfy everybody, there is always somebody who doesn't like whatever Byteball does. |
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How do we enter the lottery?
Ready to play?
The first draw is on Friday Dec 14 at 12:00 UTC. Have your addresses linked in advance: add the Draw Airdrop bot from the Bot Store inside your Byteball wallet and follow the instructions. Good luck!
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OK, that's yours, but the top 100 averages probably have on average at least 1k GBYTE, meaning the top 100 probably have 100x greater probability to win than any peon. It just seems like a game for whales.
The better solution is only attested user can enjoy the draw. People are more motivated to verify themselves  I totally agree with you on this and it would be even better if any attestation would work, including username attestation, which would make more people to use that feature too. Maybe bytes for attested users and blackbytes for un-attested users. |
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sub 30 rip
Stop the FUD. Everything is down. 1GBYTE = 0.0069 BTC - 1 month ago 1GBYTE = 0.0076 BTC - now |
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