https://etherscan.io/address/0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88Address 0x32be343b94f860124dc4fee278fdcbd38c102d88 Home Normal AccountsAddress Overview | Poloniex Wallet ETH Balance: 52,078.68675456 Ether ($666,607.19) woa...i checked this 2weeks ago it was $6mill+ then last week it was $3mill+ a few days ago till today it was $1mill+ and now almost half a mill! guess ETH traders dont like/trust polo anymore....we got better places to buy and trade now
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Make Ethereum Great Againby Donald J. Trump We have decided to launch legal action against the Ethereum foundation and the Slock.it development team. Please join us if you feel you have been effected in any way through the actions of the Ethereum foundation or Slock.it. [...] The theft of a USD $1billion dollar blockchain with trading assets, copyright material, websites, logos, github, development funds and employees was switched with fraudulent software. The Exchanges are now operating orderbooks with cloned software belonging to the original Blockchain. We seek to reinstate new leaders of the foundation and reclaim our $1B USD in assets. [...] UPDATE 29 July 2016: The Ethereum Foundation maliciously coded bugs into the hardfork update resulting in the theft of customer assets from 2 major exchanges Coinbase and BTCe. [...] Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655.
lols aaaalllllrighty then , go on guys donate
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kl, so what ethereum will this fork from? and will i get more free coins? i really dont mind this...if btc can have 500+clones, why shouldnt ETH being a far superior coin it makes sense...even though ETH is still in beta
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if it takes a fork to get you guys to buy ethereum in any form...im happy for y'all
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ETC is in the enviable position of being able to choose ANYTHING ETHF adds and there is no amount of your feet stomping and crying that can effect that. It is also in the Position of not HF'ing as that is a core principle so if ETHF wants to be safe from Replay IT HAS TO HF AGAIN!!! LOL you just so screwed. Anything ETHF can Do ETC can do cheaper and with higher confidence as it's core is not to change an agreement whether good or bad and that builds confidence. Not Hoping the Devs will change a contract you signed because you didn't like the outcome. Etc will have everything eth does + immutablity
QFT Suck on this ETHF lol, nice, just keep workin hard, buyin btc and changing to etc...my 3rd biggest collected alt. Please do remember the ETH guys control the price of etc...no one else
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livecoin
ETHEREUM CLASSIC NEWS Created 30.07.2016 00:38 Dear clients, when the Ethereum Classic (hereinafter ETC) appeared on the market, we announced that we were going to add it with ETC deposit to our customers’ accounts. But when we started working on integration, we encountered an unpleasant surprise. Because of the ETC architecture particularities and its direct relation with the genuine Ethereum (ETH), the transactions between these two coins are connected in one way or another. This relation is neither expected nor common practice in cryptocurrency.
When we adjusted the ETC in test mode, we found that we had no funds in ETC, since the transactions in ETH and ETC are associated and funds had been withdrawn by our clients in the process of normal deposit-withdrawn of ETH, we assume that it was sent to Poloniex, because at that time, trading on ETC occured only there.
Going forward we examined the situation in detail and came to the conclusion that either the ETC developers or Poloniex had to take over at least a minimum function of notifying all the other exchanges trading ETH to protect their ETC funds from loss. The quantity of such exchanges is not so high, no more than 15. We believe that to send 15 warning letters was quite capable. We have not received any notification concerning protection of funds in the ETC from anyone. We do not believe it is a fair way of doing business from the side of the ETC developers, and from the exchange, which was first to put in the ETC trades.
At the moment we may add trading pairs with ETC, but we do not see any sense in this as all the ETC funds are already withdrawn by our clients who have been aware of this network features. In addition, according to our opinion, due to the relation of blockchains with ETC and ETH there is a risk of fraudulent manipulations, and we are not willing to risk our clients’ accounts.
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dunno if y'all heard this yet...but i just found out and im selling a few etc for ETH ...enjoy guys https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v2ug3/zksnarks_zero_knowledge_proofs_now_possible_via/[–]vbuterinJust some guy 33 points 10 hours ago Basically you will be able to use this to verify arbitrary (computable) claims about information, eg. statements of the form F(x) = y for a known F and y (though x can be private). This can compete with interactive verification as a tool for cheaply verifying expensive computations and serve similar use cases (though sometimes the interactive verification approach is still much more efficient), but the zero-knowledge component also allows for powerful privacy-preserving protocols on top of Ethereum. Examples include: Cryptographic mixers - essentially, the ZK-SNARK verification enforces the rule that if you put one coin in you can take one coin and only one coin out, but the input-output mapping is completely hidden. Hawk - essentially, smart contracts with encrypted state, where the full power of the blockchain is still used to verify that state transitions are correct because anyone updating the state needs to include a ZK-SNARK proving that the change from the old encrypted state to the new encrypted state is a valid state transition (proving all of this without revealing what the decrypted old or new states, or the decrypted transaction data, is!). Only on ETH Etc will have it too dont you mean etc might have it, if it works on it? but we wont know unless we try to fork?... ETH team made it clear they only developing for ETH
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v2ug3/zksnarks_zero_knowledge_proofs_now_possible_via/[–]vbuterinJust some guy 33 points 10 hours ago Basically you will be able to use this to verify arbitrary (computable) claims about information, eg. statements of the form F(x) = y for a known F and y (though x can be private). This can compete with interactive verification as a tool for cheaply verifying expensive computations and serve similar use cases (though sometimes the interactive verification approach is still much more efficient), but the zero-knowledge component also allows for powerful privacy-preserving protocols on top of Ethereum. Examples include: Cryptographic mixers - essentially, the ZK-SNARK verification enforces the rule that if you put one coin in you can take one coin and only one coin out, but the input-output mapping is completely hidden. Hawk - essentially, smart contracts with encrypted state, where the full power of the blockchain is still used to verify that state transitions are correct because anyone updating the state needs to include a ZK-SNARK proving that the change from the old encrypted state to the new encrypted state is a valid state transition (proving all of this without revealing what the decrypted old or new states, or the decrypted transaction data, is!). Its real...ive waited a long time for this WOW ONLY ON ETH
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ok guys do you want cheap etc or expensive etc?
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is it true that ETC coin supply is more less coins than ETH. after the fork (block 1920000) the wallet holders with coins have only ETH and not ETC. the account holders on exchange have both ETH and ETC. So i was thinking there is more ETH coins than ETC.
EDIT: Think I misunderstood. The ETH chain is a higher block number, so yes, there's more ETH than ETC. thanks, this means ETC have more value yea...thats right..and its reaaaal cheap ...maybe you should buy some more
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BTCE
Latest news: 27/07/16 Ethereum Classic
Ethereum Classic
27.07.16 19:52 from admin Dear Clients!
BTC-e’s official standpoint on this issue is as follows: Ethereum Classic in the current circumstances is a scam. The Ethereum community decided to implement the hardfork in order to switch to the new chain. All major pools and exchanges (including BTC-e) did exactly that.
On the second day after the start of ETC trading BTC-e received a notification from Poloniex, saying that we need to secure the ETCs in our ETH wallet. At the time of notification, most of these coins have already been sent to Poloniex by our users. So there were almost none of these coins in our wallet.
We continue to receive requests from our customers demanding to return the ETCs that are supposedly deposited in our ETH wallet. We cannot do that for the reason specified above.
Anyone, who purports that we sent the coins to Poloniex in order to sell them, can check all the transactions on blockchain. All transactions are recorded and it is easy to trace the sender and the volumes of coins sent.
Best Regards, BTC-e Team
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WOW no holding back from the old school
BTCE
Latest news: 27/07/16 Ethereum Classic
Ethereum Classic
27.07.16 19:52 from admin Dear Clients!
BTC-e’s official standpoint on this issue is as follows: Ethereum Classic in the current circumstances is a scam. The Ethereum community decided to implement the hardfork in order to switch to the new chain. All major pools and exchanges (including BTC-e) did exactly that.
On the second day after the start of ETC trading BTC-e received a notification from Poloniex, saying that we need to secure the ETCs in our ETH wallet. At the time of notification, most of these coins have already been sent to Poloniex by our users. So there were almost none of these coins in our wallet.
We continue to receive requests from our customers demanding to return the ETCs that are supposedly deposited in our ETH wallet. We cannot do that for the reason specified above.
Anyone, who purports that we sent the coins to Poloniex in order to sell them, can check all the transactions on blockchain. All transactions are recorded and it is easy to trace the sender and the volumes of coins sent.
Best Regards, BTC-e Team
Kudos to BTCE...im trading my ETH there...respect guys Polo starting to look like cryptsy
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http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-ethereum-hard-fork-spawned-a-shaky-rebellion-ethereum-classic-etc-eth"Ethereum (ETH) represents a real threat to bitcoin, and there are some corners who have wanted to kill Ethereum since its inception" Ethereum Classic is essentially an “altcoin”—a clone of an existing cryptocurrency that a small community has rallied around to give it value. Bitcoin has hundreds of imitators, but this is Ethereum’s first. Buterin has gone on record as saying that an alternate currency based on his code isn’t necessarily a bad thing. However, it’s still a dangerous situation for users, even beyond the normal concerns about get-rich-quick schemes and network insecurity that are endemic to cryptocurrencies with a small user base. On etc users may fall victim to a “replay attack." This is etc biggest threat imo “Some number of bitcoiners are known as ‘maximalists’ which means they don’t think any other blockchains or digital assets should exist,” prominent bitcoin entrepreneur Erik Voorhees wrote me in an email. “They hate Ethereum, and they have been overjoyed by the turmoil since the fork. They can support Ethereum Classic because it perpetuates the time until this little crisis gets resolved.” “Bitcoin has had hundreds of copycats, so it's not surprising that Ethereum has one,” Sirer wrote. “In the long term, value comes from the dev team and the user community, and this overwhelmingly favors ETH.”
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i see it going up and then down alot many times over, until the noobs have been drained of their BTC & ETH Its very dangerous holding a coin that is being controlled by a group that hate altcoins, (espescially ETH), its still in beta, has no leadership, no roadmap, replay attacks daily, mining under constant ddos, 82mill premine with around 87% held by ETH guys ( that is so ironic ) and 13% held by a hacker. Im sure theres alot more i could easily add to this. *Im sure a small % of etc is being controlled by BTC extremists ( their words not mine ) and i guarantee they aint in this for the long term. Enjoy the ride on etc, it wont last forever...all it will take to dump very hard is one pump on either ETH or BTC or one bad piece of news on the coding side of etc. I cant see any gd news for etc that will help drive the price up with real volume. I feel sorry for the people that are/will be confused and angry because the exchanges led them to believe etc was the real Ethereum backed by VB & the rest of the team. You might wanna tone your shilling down to make it look less desperate. Maybe decrease the amount of blatant lies to no more than 2 per line. Just trying to help since you're so passionate about ETH albeit a bit too dimwitted for your own good. Im soo happy that i put my ETH in cold storage around 3weeks ago...i even said it here, that i expected some sort of craziness to occur ( always does, its crypto lol ) i didnt expect to get a bonus of free etc,lol M8, please just go support my coin,
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This was the fairest launch I've seen. Etc creators held mo etc and no premine. I had neither eth or etc. Not many launches ever paid the competition directly. Even clams was difficult.
We could have reset the blockchain but we didn't. We hedged and paid eth holders for free. Smart ones supported us and got a free hedge.
i 100% disagree...this is the most unfairest launch of all time....82mill+ premined...free coins but not for the etc community but the ETH guys lol and the ETH peeps still got almost all the etc
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Wasn't it a platform bug in the solidity compiler that was exploited and allowed the DAO theft to occur in the first place? Wasn't there plenty of warning that the DAO and ETH are beta and in under current development?
ETC is nothing more than an attempt to derail ETH development and justify theft.
+1 so you guess etc is going to collapse soon .. i see it going up and then down alot many times over, until the noobs have been drained of their BTC & ETH Its very dangerous holding a coin that is being controlled by a group that hate altcoins, (espescially ETH), its still in beta, has no leadership, no roadmap, replay attacks daily, mining under constant ddos, 82mill premine with around 87% held by ETH guys ( that is so ironic ) and 13% held by a hacker. Im sure theres alot more i could easily add to this. *Im sure a small % of etc is being controlled by BTC extremists ( their words not mine ) and i guarantee they aint in this for the long term. Enjoy the ride on etc, it wont last forever...all it will take to dump very hard is one pump on either ETH or BTC or one bad piece of news on the coding side of etc. I cant see any gd news for etc that will help drive the price up with real volume. I feel sorry for the people that are/will be confused and angry because the exchanges led them to believe etc was the real Ethereum backed by VB & the rest of the team.
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Microsoft Azure only on ETH
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http://www.altcointoday.com/chinese-exchange-yunbi-lost-40000-etc/Chinese Exchange Yunbi Lost 40,000 ETC Over Chain Vulnerability the Ethereum Foundation which employs countless of experienced developers working on sharding, Casper and other applications has come out in support of ETH: We will focus our resources and attention on the chain which is now called ETH (ie. the fork chain) Ethereum users and dapp developers can, therefore, fully ignore ETC and be safe from relay attacks if they transact on only one chain allowing the two communities to freely co-exist and compete in their chosen path. etc HF or die...
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