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4001  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and Financial planing(making wills etc) on: October 18, 2017, 09:39:00 PM
One common approach for btc may be having private keys and addresses written on a piece of paper that is protected inside a safety deposit box for beneficiaries to inherit.

This approach is already targeted inside US Senate Bill 1241, a proposal which would allow the state to confiscate the contents of safety deposit boxes (it specifies crypto) without due process or just cause.

Private keys and addresses located inside a home safe could be a better approach. There is no de facto standard that I know of. Please be aware that legislation is already being drafted to confiscate crypto a person might want to pass on to their family. Also in many areas politicians are calling for hikes to death taxes.
4002  Economy / Marketplace / Re: 1 Year in Cryptocurrency still no luck earning bitcoin. Need some real advice. on: October 17, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
For some, earning money or starting a business will revolve around them purchasing an item they can build some type of business around.

An example of this is, someone could start a business by buying a lawn mower and cutting peoples lawns. Another example might be purchasing a video camera and making video clips that earn advertising revenue on youtube. Buying seeds and planting vegetables which can be sold at farmer's markets.

Laptops/PCs can also be used to start many businesses & earn income. Although this area is heavily saturated and competitive which can make things difficult. Finding a niche or focusing on developing skills that can be monetized seem like decent options.

I'm in a similar boat where I have a few businesses I plan to start to try to earn income.
4003  Economy / Economics / Scientists digging in Swiss sewage find millions in gold and silver on: October 17, 2017, 08:51:51 PM
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Even gold diggers might want to avoid this one.

An estimated 95 pounds of gold rush through Switzerland’s sewage pipes and its waste stations each year, according to a study by scientists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Aquatic Science and Technology, also known as Eawag.

That’s about $1.8 million dollars of sewage-covered gold.

They also estimated that about 6,600 pounds of silver flows through those pipes, which is about $1.7 million, according to Bloomberg
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The study, commissioned by the Federal Office for the Environment, tested sewage in 64 wastewater treatment plants across the small country. While officials have long known precious metals get mixed in with sewage, they’ve never known exactly how much.

Eawag described it in a statement as “the first systematic, quantitative assessment.”

The precious metal most likely came from the country’s gold-refining plants and its watchmaking industry, slowly building up over a year. Switzerland is one of the world’s biggest gold-refining centers, with 70 percent of the world’s gold passing through its refineries each year, Bloomberg reported.

Gold prospectors shouldn’t get too excited. Eawag warned that the concentration of gold in most places wasn’t high enough to financially justify mining the toxic sludge.

But Ticino, an Italian-speaking region in the south of Switzerland, contains enough gold refineries releasing trace amounts of the metal into sewage pipes to make recovery there “potentially worthwhile,” according to the statement by Eawag.

Sewers in the United States might contain gold as well.

Researchers from Arizona State University published a similar study in 2015, finding that a U.S. city of 1 million people flushes up to $13 million worth of precious metals into the sewage system each year. Roughly $2.3 million of that is gold and silver.

Some countries work to retrieve the precious metals sloshing around under their streets. One wastewater treatment plant in Japan incinerates its sludge, extracting two pounds of gold from every 1,200 pounds of ash — an amount that Reuters said was “a higher gold yield from sludge than can be found at some of the world’s best mines.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/13/scientists-digging-in-swiss-sewage-find-millions-in-gold-and-silver/

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A little something to break up the monotony on GPU/ASIC mining. People ask, what do we do when there are no bitcoins left to mine? Here is one potential alternative. For those who are into precious metals, this could be interesting. I'm not enthusiastic about gold or silver but reading this makes even me feel tempted to find a way to mine the millions of free precious metals in sewers. Perhaps robot labor would make it viable?

4004  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Full citizenship of the Pacific nation of Vanuatu for less than 44 bitcoin on: October 17, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
Paying 44 bitcoin's ($200,000) as a one-time-tax, to avoid paying a lifetime of income taxes, would be a great deal for someone who is wealthy.

There are similar deals for those who aren't wealthy btw. They don't involve bitcoin but there are some communities that will give a person land for free, if they live on the land and take care of it and be good contributing members of small communities. Here's an example:

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Canada's Yukon offers free land if you're willing to farm the north

TORONTO (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - In Canada’s far north, the government of Yukon Territory wants to attract small farmers to the frigid region with a simple pitch: free land.

And as global warming makes Canada’s northern regions more hospitable to agriculture by opening once frozen land to farming, the opportunities are growing.

Bordering on Alaska in northwestern Canada, the Yukon has given away nearly 8,000 acres (3,208 hectares) of farmland in the past decade, a senior government official told the Thomson Reuters Foundation. A dozen new applications are under consideration.

Now is a good time to start farming in the Yukon, say government officials.

“Our territory is expected to get wetter and warmer,” said Rod Jacob, a government official with the Department of Energy, Mines and Resources in the capital Whitehorse.

“We may see opportunity with an increased growing season,” Jacob told the Thomson Reuters Foundation in an email.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-canada-farming-landrights/canadas-yukon-offers-free-land-if-youre-willing-to-farm-the-north-idUSKBN1AA27M

Sometimes there are similar offers where free land is given away for those with needed skills in remote areas where visitors seldom travel.

4005  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 217: Bisping vs GSP Info and Betting Thread on: October 17, 2017, 08:25:33 PM
There is also Bellator 185 on october 20th.



And Donald Cerrone vs Darren Till in Poland on october 21st.



The UFC card ^ on the 21st is live around 6-8 hours earlier than normal due to it being in Poland.

Not certain about Bisping vs GSP. That could be a tough card to call. There could be many close fights and split decisions that could go either way.

Johny Hendricks is looking good as he's training at JacksonWink and seems to have renewed his competitive drive. Ion Cutelaba could be a big favorite as his opponent is a relative unknown. Other than that, a lot of the other fights could be very competitive. Hard to pick a winner in many of them.
4006  Economy / Economics / Cryptocurrency Market Size To Grow 1000x By 2025, With Bitcoin Nearing $500B on: October 17, 2017, 07:03:13 PM
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The cryptocurrency market size is set to grow ten-fold by 2025 according to a new research booklet published by US Equity Research analysts at Canadian investment bank, Canaccord Genuity.

At a time when other analysts are predicting the demise of bitcoin and its peers, and financial figureheads such as Jamie Dimon believe that bitcoin is a “fraud,” Canaccord’s positive outlook for crypto assets is a welcome relief for supporters.

Cryptocurrency Market Size To Grow To $1Trillion

According to the investment bank's analysis, by 2025, as crypto payment networks mature, and consumers, as well as businesses, gain trust in cryptocurrencies, " the total value of all cryptocurrencies required for payments and store of value will grow from $11.2 billion /$16.6 billion in 2017 to $1,132 billion /$92 billion in 2025," that's a Cryptocurrency market size growth of 9998% or a compound annual growth rate of 78% (see chart below exhibit 30 which seems to indicate Bitcoin going to near $500B compared to current market size of ~$72B and the total market cap).

Investors are throwing money at the industry to try and capitalize on currency market growth, at the early stages, before transaction volumes really take off. Canaccord's data shows that bitcoin venture capital investments have grown from an almost insignificant $2.1 million for 2012, to $601 million for 2017. Cumulative venture capital bitcoin investments have surged from $2.1 million to $1.6 billion.



Bitcoin's biggest opportunity is the payment market, and despite all of the media attention the alternative currency is receiving, as a share of the global payment's market, it's still insignificant. Canaccord's analysts note that the cryptocurrency's recent rise in value has been "at least partially by increased transaction volumes as BTC’s usage increases." The report continues "n BTC’s value was simply a matter of 'catching up' to the transaction volume" also the recent "correction correlates closely with a softening of transaction volume."








If this relationship continues to hold true (which is highly likely) then as bitcoin transaction volumes grow, investors in the asset should be well rewarded. Indeed, bitcoin daily transaction volumes were only $131 billion during 2016. In comparison, Western Union volumes were 461% higher at $735 billion, and Paypal volumes came in at $970 billion. MasterCard processes 202x more transaction volumes with bitcoin and Visa processes 172x. Put simply. bitcoin is still a speck on the global payments landscape.

As cryptocurrencies continue to grow their percentage share of total daily transaction volumes, the value of these assets should continue to expand concludes the report. Rather than placing a price target on bitcoin, Canaccord's analysts instead compute the estimated size of the cryptocurrency Market size by 2025 arriving at the figure of $1,132 billion based on current trends in both the crypto assets and traditional money markets.


http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/10/cryptocurrency-market-size/

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Bitcoin's high growth and large potential future growth are likely some of the best arguments against btc being a bubble. Bubbles tend to be defined more as assets which are overvalued in markets with stagnant growth. Over the long term if bitcoins potential growth is thousand times larger, this could imply it is still undervalued by a significant degree.

One thought that comes to mind is these financial analysts are probably not taking into account the technical limitations of what bitcoin can realistically achieve in terms of transactions per second. 1000x might be an exaggeration given the technical constraints. Although even if bitcoin's growth were capped at only 200x or 500x, that would still represent ridiculous overwhelming growth over current day metrics & demand.

Looking at some of the graphs and charts, it is impressive how amazing crypto is.
4007  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Surges Above $4900 Amid Catalan 'Independence' Declaration on: October 17, 2017, 06:49:27 PM
Some might find this interesting. This news story was posted 20 hours ago.

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Catalan Independence Movement Furious After Spain Jails Two Leaders For Possible Sedition

Political prisoners in Europe used to be a thing of the past; as of Monday afternoon, Spain has two.

Spanish judge Carmen Lamela has ruled that the leaders of the two biggest grassroots pro-independence associations in Catalonia should remain in prison without bail on possible charges of sedition for which, if convicted, they could face prison sentences of up to 10 years.

The legal investigation claims Jordi Sanchez, the leader of Catalan National Assembly (ANC) movement, and Jordi Cuixart, who heads the Omnium Cultural association, were heavily involved in organising the massive protest aimed at hindering a Guardia Civil investigation in Barcelona into the build-up for the 1 October illegal referendum. Specifically, members of the Guardia Civil were trapped in Catalan government offices on 20 September as a result of thousands of protestors encircling the building, in what has been described as a "siege" and during which three police vehicles were destroyed.

Now, in a decision that could further enflame separatist passions, both Cuixart and Sanchez are set to spend the night in a prison near Madrid; the two earlier refused to answer questions from the judge overseeing the investigation. Summoned to court twice on Monday, on entering they gave clenched fists victory salutes to a small group of supporters.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-16/catalan-independence-movement-furious-after-spain-jails-two-leaders-possible-seditio

A few hours after this news story was posted, there was a decline in btc price from $5700 down to $5600.



As time passes we should see more evidence for or against Catalonia's independence movement being linked to btc value.
4008  Economy / Economics / Re: CHINA ban Rise and Down on: October 16, 2017, 09:44:27 PM
bitcoin price down about 1,000$ after china ban   this is logic

but less than 2 months back more than old 4,600 now without any new news why  ??

The china ban occurred around the same time Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan, Robert Shiller who won a nobel prize in economics and many other financial/economic analysts & experts claimed bitcoin was a bubble about to burst. That is likely what caused the last big drop in btc price.

People may have realized china isn't as big an influence on btc price as it had been in previous years. When the price didn't fall completely through the floor as it did in 2014, the last time china banned btc exchanges, they decided to call it a bottom and buy in, expecting the price to increase.

Bitcoin's price has always peaked late in the year. The reason for the price increase could be seasonal as well.

There could be other motives for it like Catalonia's independence. But that seems to be controversial and so we can ignore that for now.
4009  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Surges Above $4900 Amid Catalan 'Independence' Declaration on: October 16, 2017, 09:22:35 PM
I'm an american btw.

The way I see it, the majority of trading volume in markets and exchanges are composed of 1%'ers. It can be a very competitive region full of mathematicians, high IQ's and people otherwise known as "super nerds". This is the user demographic which represents the biggest fraction of price movements in the world. To the average person, Catalonia may be insignificant. But to a demographic of millionaire/billionaire whales who determine real price movements when they buy/sell in massive volume, events like Catalonia may be significant.

I can't speak for whales, being only an average person. But many whale traders could have attained wealth by working hard and being more educated and informed than average people. Events like Catalonia could hold special significance the rest of us average folk are unaware of.

One might say the united states is one of the most powerful countries due to it having wealth. Wealth is influence. The same concept could apply to markets and to trading. The more wealth someone has, the more they can influence the price of bitcoin or crypto. When it comes to bitcoin price and its movements up or down, it could be determined by what 1%'ers stance is on recent news. They have the most wealth & the largest effect on price movements. And so it may be they who would determine whether events like Catalonia's independence have an effect on btc price.
4010  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / The Curious Case of Bitcoin’s “Moby Dick” Spam and the Miners That Confirmed It on: October 16, 2017, 08:47:39 PM
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The Curious Case of Bitcoin’s “Moby Dick” Spam and the Miners That Confirmed It

The scaling debate has dominated the Bitcoin space for well over two years now. As a central issue, Bitcoin’s one-megabyte block size limit was often insufficient to include all transactions on the network. This ultimately led to the replacement of this block size limit for a block weight limit through Segregated Witness, allowing for up to four megabytes of transaction data. And a group of Bitcoin companies plans to deploy a hard fork to double this by November.

But there is reason to believe the “crisis” may have been fabricated, at least partly. A recent analysis by “LaurentMT,” the developer of blockchain analytics tool OXT, in cooperation with Antoine Le Calvez, creator of Bitcoin statistics resource p2sh.info, shows that the Bitcoin network has had to deal with a load of spam transactions throughout the past two years. Now, in a three-part blog post series dubbing the spam attacks “Moby Dick,” their findings suggest that several major Bitcoin mining pools may have had a hand in this.

“Six or seven pools have played a major role in stuffing blocks with spam transactions,” LaurentMT said. “And charts display what looks like a coordination between these pools.”

The Spam Situation

The very concept of “spam” in the context of Bitcoin is sometimes disputed. Differentiating between “good” and “bad” transactions can be controversial on a network designed for permissionlessness innovation and censorship-resistant payments.

But there is little doubt that certain transactions serve no other purpose than to stuff the Bitcoin network and blockchain. LaurentMT and Le Calvez more specifically define spam as transactions that send lots of tiny fractions of bitcoins to lots of different outputs (“addresses”). These kinds of transactions can’t feasibly have been used to make actual payments, while they do present a significant burden on the Bitcoin network: all nodes need to receive, validate, transmit and (at least temporarily) store all this data.

The analysts found that the Bitcoin network has seen many transactions that fit this category: almost three gigabytes worth of data within a two-year span, adding up to more than 2 percent of the total size of the blockchain, or the equivalent of about a month’s worth of normal Bitcoin use.

“We found that there were four waves of ‘fan-out transactions’ during summer 2015,” LaurentMT told Bitcoin Magazine, referring to the transactions that create lots of outputs. “We think that the first two waves were spamming users and services. The third and fourth waves instead mostly sent the fractions of bitcoins to addresses controlled by the attackers themselves.”

These four waves of spam have been relatively easy to notice, as sudden bursts of transactions clogged up the Bitcoin network for brief periods of time. In some cases these spam attacks were even announced as “stress tests” or “bitcoin giveaways.”

What’s more interesting about LaurentMT and Le Calvez’s analysis is that the two focused on the second half of the puzzle. Almost all the fractions of bitcoins that were sent to all these different addresses have slowly been re-spent back into circulation since. These “fan-in” transactions were not as obvious as the initial waves of spam — but were similarly burdensome.

And, LaurentMT explained, blockchain analysis suggests that most of this spam can be tracked down to one or two entities:

“We’ve identified two wallets that seem to have played a central role in the attacks. They’ve funded long chains of fan-out transactions during summer 2015, and they later aggregated the dust outputs.”

The analysts also suggest that the perpetrator(s) of the spam may have been customers of the Canadian exchange QuadrigaCX. But that’s where their analysis stops.

The Mining Pools

Perhaps what is more interesting is who used this spam to fill up Bitcoin blocks: Bitcoin mining pools.

The spam outputs, generated by the first four waves of fan-out transactions, had been starting to move since autumn of 2015 — sort of. Whoever controlled these addresses had been broadcasting transactions to spend these outputs over the network. However, for a long time, miners did not include these “spam broadcasts” in their blocks; the transactions were ignored.

Up until the second half of 2016, that is. At a very specific point in time, a group of seven mining pools started to suddenly accept these spam broadcasts and include them in the blocks they mined: 1-Hash, Antpool, BitClub Network, BTC.com, HaoBTC, KanoCKPool and ViaBTC.

“So, either these seven pools had an ‘aha moment,’ and suddenly discovered that Bitcoin is about censorship resistance. Or, they had another motivation to fill up blocks with these transactions — perhaps related to the block size debate,” LaurentMT suggested.

For more clues, LaurentMT and Le Calvez looked for notable events that happened around the time of the mining pools’ sudden change of heart. In their research, they did find some correlation with “strange” occurrences. The first is an open letter from HaoBTC (now rebranded as Bixin) to the Bitcoin Core development team. The second was a rumor about a group of Chinese pools planning to end their cooperation with Bitcoin Core: the Terminator Plan.

Of course, something notable happens in Bitcoin just about every week. These events may well be coincidences and, therefore, there could be a very different explanation for the mining pools’ behavior, LaurentMT acknowledged:

“An alternative explanation could be that the different mining pools adopted new mining policies for completely different reasons. I tend to think political motivations are more likely … but that’s just a personal opinion.”

Bitcoin Magazine reached out to the seven mining pools in question. The only mining pool willing to comment on the issue was KanoCKPool, which denied being involved with any sort of manipulation or coordination, stating it just confirms “any and all transactions available.”

UPDATE: After publication of this article (and on reading the comment from Kano CK Pool), LaurentMT pointed out that Kano CK Pool, along with 1Hash and Bitclub Network, are the only pools that had been confirming some of the spam transactions even before the second half of 2016, indicating that the pool could be telling the truth.

For a full analysis of the “Moby Dick” spam, read LaurentMT and Le Calvez’s three-part blog post series:

Part 1: https://medium.com/@laurentmt/good-whale-hunting-d3cc3861bd6b
Part 2: https://medium.com/@laurentmt/when-moby-dick-meets-the-terminator-d014c315af85
Part 3: https://medium.com/@laurentmt/the-canadian-connection-7f48cafe2369

Or watch Le Calvez’s presentation at Breaking Bitcoin in Paris earlier this month.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/curious-case-bitcoins-moby-dick-spam-and-miners-confirmed-it/

This is the best technical breakdown/explanation for elevated transfer fees and transaction slowdown I've come across. It details a few interesting points on how miners may have utilized their influence to push big block politics.

For those who know more about the technical aspect of crypto than I do. What is your opinion of this? Is it valid? Any and all thoughts on this would be appreciated.
4011  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Surges Above $4900 Amid Catalan 'Independence' Declaration on: October 16, 2017, 08:29:02 PM
To everyone who replied, thank you for the varying perspectives on this topic.

There is one question I would like to ask. In the image below there are two green dashed arrows. In real time, the first arrow depicts a price increase seemingly in anticipation of the speech Puigdemont gave where many expected him to announce Catalan's independence. In real time, the second arrow occurs during Puigdemont's speech.



There was also this spike in btc price around october 1st, 2017 when catalonia first declared publicly their intent to become independent.



I think some of you are correct in that there are other relevent factors. Its an interesting question as to whether concentrated price movements can occur in a vacuum without specific causes.
4012  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoin a Bubble? on: October 16, 2017, 08:08:13 PM
Looking at charts, a case could be made for bitcoin's price peaking at the end of every year since its inception. Every year except 2014, when silk road was shut down. If I'm remembering right, china also banned exchanges or passed some regulation which caused bitcoin's price to decline by a massive margin in 2014. We're nearing year's end and so for those who know bitcoin price movements, it is normal for a peak to occur during this time. Its not necessarily a bubble, this always happens, and has happened every year except 2014, as far as I know.

To add to that, we've had reports of bitcoin's userbase doubling every 12 months. This is the type of exponential growth which rivals a zombie outbreak. It may be fair to say cryptos userbase is growing at a viral pace. This increase in demand hints against a bubble. A doubling bitcoin userbase is analogous to general motors customer base doubling every 12 months. That would represent spectacular growth. It would be marked by a significant increase in year end profits/stock value and so the argument of bitcoin being a bubble may not be the best.

There is an interesting context in this quote here.

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Looking only at pricing, UBS said that, “a twenty-fold increase in bitcoin prices in just two years, and an absence of any fundamental economic backing, cryptocurrency prices are almost certainly a bubble.”

"Absence of fundamental economic backing".

If bitcoin's userbase doubles in a 12 month period can we label that a significant form of fundamental economic backing? If bitcoin trading volume increases significantly, does that qualify as economic backing? The answer to both of these questions may be: yes.

The stance of bitcoin being a bubble may be based more on misinformation and misdefinition of terms than it is economic fundamentals.
4013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Laptop or desktop security on: October 15, 2017, 07:28:07 PM
I'm looking to purchase a new laptop and I want to know, which brand would be best compatible with #Bitcoin core wallets and upgrades.

What security services should I use?

Judging how no one is letting up in this fork debate I see that in the future bitcoin wallet providers will be speaking out on which chain they will be a part of. I just want to be as close to correct as possible.

Call 2X BTCCorp for all i care im not with corporate espionage

I'm not the most security conscious or knowledgeable person & my opsec isn't great but I'll make an attempt to answer this.

It could be best to avoid brands like Lenovo which are rebranded IBM bought out by china. The chinese have a history of "accidentally" installing backdoors on products like smart phones. Earlier this year there was a news story about as many as "700 million" android phones being infected by a chinese backdoor. I can't remember confirmed cases of them installing backdoors on laptops or desktops but better safe than sorry.

Compatibility with core wallets isn't something I know much about. Sometimes standard PCs and laptops have better compatibility than macs. Other than that it doesn't matter.

Security wise, if anti virus is constantly running in the background it has a tendency to destroy hard drives faster. Scanning periodically typically allows hardware to have a longer lifespan. Standard windows firewalls are heavily targeted. Some type of 3rd party software firewall, which is less targeted than standard windows fw is preferred. If security is a high priority a hardware firewall is also a good idea.

Browser extensions like noscript which block unauthorized objects and scripts can be good for preventing browser based attacks.

Also for security purposes, its good to disable windows 10 logging user data via default. Other good practices are to avoid porn sites, warez sites, streaming sites--virtually any website which hosts banner ads which can serve as known attack vectors.

Sorry to say there is a very long and detailed check list truly security conscious people follow. Most of us probably don't have the time for it.
4014  Economy / Economics / Re: Statistics about cryptocurrency used to buy goods on: October 15, 2017, 07:16:27 PM
Is there a graph witch shows how much goods are bought withe BTC and Altcoins. Would be interesting how high these values are. Every statistic about those values would be interesting for me.

The best method I know of is to poll crypto users and try to extrapolate in a meaningful way despite the extremely low sample size and exposure.

There are other options. Requests for information could be made to exchanges, amazon, coinbase, bitpay, gyft and other services linked to crypto good purchasing for a statistical data breakdown. There is a chance they might be willing to provide information. Although I can't claim to know what their privacy policy is for customers, how much it might cost. That type of information does seem to be for sale across a wide spectrum.

If you're specifically looking for a btc vs altcoin breakdown that could be extremely difficult as many altcoins are exchanged for btc before purchasing goods.

4015  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Game theory: Superrational thinking vs rational in BitCoin on: October 15, 2017, 06:46:09 PM
Abstract frameworks like the prisoner dilemma can be difficult to quantify as terms such as reward and rationality can be prone towards failure.

Not to name names but for sake of discussion, Craig Wright might be considered a defector who received the best outcome due to his venture receiving $200 million in funding in exchange for Craig Wright attempting to deceive people into believing he is Satoshi Nakamoto. A typical analysis might conclude Craig Wright is an optimal example of a defector being rewarded for rational behavior. This falls under a materialistic analysis.

But there is a non materialistic school of thought which might suggest having $200 million can less desirable than abstract concepts such as loyalty, integrity and having a clear conscience. There are wealthy celebrities who may have led happier and more content lives if they had never achieved fame or wealth.

With frameworks like the prisoner dilemma we generalize due to an inability to cover rule based exceptions. Topics like reward and rationality can't be quantified as well as we might like them to. Whether reward can be measured solely within materialist bounds such as money or non materialist abstracts tends to be where the prisoner dilemma breaks down.

That said, I like your analysis & think it is a good analogy. I agree there are parallels between the prisoner dilemma and the current state of affairs in crypto that are very interesting.
4016  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is this a possible way 'they' could criminalise bitcoin? on: October 15, 2017, 06:24:40 PM
In the united states, there is a proposal known ominously as "Senate Bill 1241".

Under this bill, it would become legal for the government to confiscate crypto from end users without just cause or due process.

I think this represents a likely policy that will be pursued worldwide. Instead of attacking crypto or criminalising the powers that be can simply confiscate it.

I remember reading a post on this forum authored by someone claiming to be in germany who said police tried to confiscate their bitcoin. It is possible this is already happening.

More info:

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“Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017.”

Among the bill’s sweeping provisions, the government aims to greatly extend its authority to seize your assets through “Civil Asset Forfeiture”.

Civil Asset Forfeiture rules allow the government to take whatever they want from you, without a trial or any due process.

This new bill adds a laundry list of offenses for which they can legally seize your assets… all of which pertain to money laundering and other financial crimes.

Here’s the thing, though: they’ve also vastly expanded on the definition of such ‘financial crimes’, including failure to fill out a form if you happen to be transporting more than $10,000 worth of ‘monetary instruments’.

Have too much cash? You’d better tell the government.

If not, they’re authorizing themselves in this bill to seize not just the money you didn’t report, but ALL of your assets and bank accounts.

They even go so far as to specifically name “safety deposit boxes” among the various assets that they can seize if you don’t fill out the form.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-14/you-wont-believe-stupid-new-law-against-cash-and-bitcoin
4017  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Supermarket Accept Bitcoin on: October 15, 2017, 05:28:50 PM
Best methods I can think of for shopping in a supermarket with bitcoin are to convert to paypal and use their debit card or go through bitcoin debit cards. Neither of which are good options as conversion fees and other rates are inefficient. It is difficult to buy fresh food directly with btc/crypto. Gift cards are redeemable only with internet purchases that I know of. If there was a service where supermarket gift cards could be bought via crypto & they would send the cards via snail mail, that might work great. Unfortunately, there have been many restrictions placed upon the usage of gift cards and I don't know if that's possible.

This is definitely something I need to look into. I'm very curious as to if its possible and what the best method is, as well.

Also should mention there is coinbase and similar services which allow conversion from btc to your own bank account. Can't vouch for whether those are reliable options atm.
4018  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Merkle Tree Proof evaluation - Itsuku algorithm proposal on: October 14, 2017, 10:16:54 PM
Cryptographic data, such as hash outputs and elliptic curve points, look completely random and thus do not compress at all. These dominate the blockchain data, leaving only a small amount of compressibility in script bytecodes and counters and such.

Much thanks for the answer. I've searched for answers to why portions of the blockchain might not be compressible. Yours is the best I've come across so far.

I don't want to waste your time but if its not too much trouble, I would like to ask if its not the randomization of data which determines whether hash strings can be compressed but rather the size of the character set and the size of its container. The very few examples I've seen of data inside 1 MB blocks seems to suggest it could be compressed. Maybe not at as high a compression ratio as normal text with its high frequency of vowels and somewhat predictable patterns. But a lower and upper case alpha numeric range of characters could be deemed small enough for a useful degree of compression to occur? Unless the elliptic curve points you're referring to are represented as some form of machine code which tends to have too large of a character set for useful compression to occur?

Anyways, like I said I don't want to waste your time explaining things that are probably very basic. I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.
4019  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Users Double Every 12 Months on: October 14, 2017, 09:49:04 PM
Good post OP. Thanks for posting this.

Rising demand and exponential growth of btc's user base are some of the main factors which prevent bitcoin from accurately being labeled a bubble. In order to maintain the increase of bitcoin's value, there must be some underlying fundamentals which are growing at a similar pace to justify the increase in valuation. This serves as a legitimate counter to kneejerk reactionary analysts who claim "bitcoin is a bubble" without addressing the underlying metrics.

Like Ben Bernanke said in years past to dispute claims of a housing bubble: "the fundamentals of the economy are strong".

The fundamentals of the bitcoin economy are definitely much stronger than the fundamentals Ben Bernanke talked about back then.
4020  Economy / Economics / Re: China Eyes A State-Owned Cryptocurrency on: October 14, 2017, 09:42:40 PM
Whether china can successfully issue crypto may be a question of whether a centralized state run by people with pro centralization mentalities can do a decent job running a crypto currency whose success and survival may depend upon being decentralized. The likely outcome is, whatever china issues wont be crypto at all but merely a form of state issued fiat which utilizes a blockchain. Thus eliminating many of the advantages that a decentralized crypto would enjoy. State issued crypto likely won't be able to compete with true decentralized crypto as state issued will likely be centralized with an open ended supply which would make it vulnerable to devaluation, inflation and in worse case scenarios hyperinflation as well.
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