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4941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcache & Megaupload 2: A first look at encrypted anonymous content delivery on: April 04, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
I follow Kim Dotcom on twitter, he's an interesting character.

He was treated unfairly when megaupload was shut down.

The cost to the US government to store the contents of megaupload servers was astronomical.

Wish I could remember what the exact numbers were. They were pretty crazy.

Court cases bankrupted Kim. Its nice to see him making a comeback.

He's slowly becoming something like a Julian Assange type figure.
4942  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Georgia Becomes First Country to Register Property on Blockchain on: April 04, 2017, 01:38:49 PM
As an american, it annoys me how countries like georgia can pass laws like this one that are cutting edge and revolutionary while my own lawmakers are like fat cows, stuck in the mud, unable to do anything useful for their own people.

In theory america the greatest country in the world.

But in reality, countries like georgia make us look completely useless when they pass laws our own senate couldn't pass in 20 years because of how dysfunctional and corrupt our political system has become.
4943  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country are you from? Here list THIRTY popular bitcoin countries for trade on: April 04, 2017, 01:27:22 PM
Its surprising to see Nigeria taking the number 14 spot on the list. If the list is credible to be trusted then I am really surprised that despite several reports that the cpoury is known for scammers they could still have a spot over there... Its really surprising...

This article from last year could help explain it.

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Nigeria Hyperinflation Looms As Central Bank Throws In The Towel, Devalues Currency

Less than a month ago, when looking at Nigeria's deplorable economic and reserve situation, made far worse by the collapse in Nigerian oil exports courtesy of the Niger Delta Avengers, we predicted that "Nigeria Currency Devaluation Looms As FX Forwards Crash To Record Lows." Specifically we warned that "having urged investors "not to panic" last year, and seeing dollar reserves drying up rapidly earlier this year, recent "lies" about the nation's statistics have raised fears of a looming devaluation as FX forwards have crashed to 291 Naira to the dollar (current peg is 199)."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-15/nigeria-hyperinflation-looms-central-bank-throws-towel-devalues-currency

Hyperinflation / currency devluation could be main reasons for nigerian's adopting btc and crypto.

There have also been cell phone banking experiments in nigeria, which could make its economy more viable to a btc transition.

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Mobile Banking Takes Off in Nigeria(article is from 2012)

Mobile devices are revolutionizing transaction services in Africa, similar to the way computers did in industrialized countries.

https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/mobile-banking-takes-nigeria
4944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who should be in control of Bitcoin's blocksize (poll) on: April 04, 2017, 01:19:04 PM
Blocksize is an extremely overrated issue.

Doubling the blocksize at most will mean maximum theoretical transactions might increase from 7 to 14 transactions per second.

It won't make a difference. It won't solve issues with fees or unconfirmed transactions.

Its not worth it in terms of risk versus reward.
4945  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Private healthcare applications w/ blockchain on: April 04, 2017, 08:50:22 AM
Data integrity is a lot cheaper if maintained by a third party who will be liable under the law if it was caught tampering with the data. A blockchain was never intended to be efficient. In your private health center blockchain who or what secures the network?

You have never heard of Chris Derose and yet you say hes a self proclaimed expert? Your ignorance is very embarrassing. Go do your research and stop making posts, spamming your signature.

But a blockchain is more inefficient.

Its a question of downtime.

If amazon or a retail website is down for a few hours, that can represent millions in lost revenue.

One advantage of data saved in a blockchain is avoiding downtime associated with data compromise.

Yes data can be backed up by 3rd party or saved on another drive, but if the initial server data is hacked or compromised, it takes time for a rollback to happen.

That rollback of data is associated with downtime and lost revenue.

There are scenarios where a blockchain with greater uptime is preferred over backend database servers which are normally shut down when they're compromised.
4946  Economy / Economics / It's Time To Get Painfully Honest: Banks Are Evil on: April 03, 2017, 04:01:19 PM
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Authored by Adam Taggart via PeakProsperity.com,

I don't talk to my classmates from business school anymore, many of whom went to work in the financial industry.
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Why?

Because, through the lens we use here at PeakProsperity.com to look at the world, I've increasingly come to see the financial industry -- with the big banks at its core -- as the root cause of injustice in today's society. I can no longer separate any personal affections I might have for my fellow alumni from the evil that their companies perpetrate.

And I'm choosing that word deliberately: Evil.

In my opinion, it's long past time we be brutally honest about the banks. Their influence and reach has metastasized to the point where we now live under a captive system. From our retirement accounts, to our homes, to the laws we live under -- the banks control it all. And they run the system for their benefit, not ours.

While the banks spent much of the past century consolidating their power, the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999 emboldened them to accelerate their efforts. Since then, the key trends in the financial industry have been to dismantle regulation and defang those responsible for enforcing it, to manipulate market prices (an ambition tremendously helped by the rise of high-frequency trading algorithms), and to push downside risk onto "muppets" and taxpayers.

Oh, and of course, this hasn't hurt either: having the ability to print up trillions in thin-air money and then get first-at-the-trough access to it. Don't forget, the Federal Reserve is made up of and run by -- drum roll, please -- the banks.

How much 'thin air' money are we talking about? The Fed and the rest of the world's central banking cartel has printed over $12 Trillion since the Great Recession. Between the ECB and the DOJ, nearly $200 Billion of additional liquidity has been -- and continues to be -- injected into world markets each month(!) since the beginning of 2016:

With their first-in-line access to this money tsunami, as well as their stranglehold on the financial system that it all runs through, the banks are like a parasite feasting from a gusher on the mother-lode artery.

It should come as little surprise that, with all this advantage they've amassed, the banks have enriched themselves and their cronies spectacularly. They have made themselves too big to fail, and too big to jail. Remember that their reckless greed caused the 2008 financial crisis, and yet, in 2009, not only did bankers avoid criminal prosecutions, not only did the banks receive hundreds of billions in government bailouts, but they paid themselves record bonuses?

And the bonanza continues unabated today. By being able to borrow capital for essentially free today from the Fed, the banks simply lever that money up and buy Treasurys. Voila! Risk-free profits. That giveaway has been going on for years.

Couple that with the banks' ability to push market prices around using their wide arsenal of unfair tactics -- frontrunning, HFT spoofing and quote stuffing, stop-running, insider knowledge, collusion, etc -- the list is long. James Howard Kunstler is dead on: we don't have a free market anymore. Instead, we have rackets, run by racketeers. The rest of us are simply suckers to be fleeced.

Nobel Prize-winning economist Angus Deaton recently agreed:

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Income inequality is not killing capitalism in the United States, but rent-seekers like the banking and the health-care sectors just might, said Nobel-winning economist Angus Deaton on Monday.
 
If an entrepreneur invents something on the order of another Facebook, Deaton said he has no problem with that person becoming wealthy.
 
“What is not OK is for rent-seekers to get rich,” Deaton said in a luncheon speech to the National Association for Business Economics.
 
Rent seekers lobby and persuade governments to give them special favors.
 
Bankers during the financial crisis, and much of the health-care system, are two prime examples, Deaton said.
 
Rent-seeking not only does not generate new product, it actually slows down economic growth, Deaton said.
 
“All that talent is devoted to stealing things, instead of making things,” he said.

(Source: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/nobel-economist-takes-aim-at-rent-seeking-banking-and-healthcare-industries-2017-03-06?siteid=rss)

As further proof, let's look at this data recently obtained by Zero Hedge. In the past 4 years, JP Morgan's in-house trading group has had exactly 2 days of losses.

That's not trading. Trading involves uncertainty and risk. This situation has none. It's an extraction process -- siphoning value from the market day after day with ironclad dependability.

And it's not just a few dollars here and there. In 2016, JP Morgan's daily average trading revenues were $80 million. Per day! That's nearly $20 billion for the year.

So if not "trading", what should we call it when a bank can extract tens of billions of dollars a year from the markets, with no downside risk? "Sanctioned theft" sounds about right.

Because for every trade there is a buyer and a seller. If JP Morgan is the winner every day, who is losing? Turns out, it's the big pools of "dumb money" that don't have the cheat codes for the system the way the banks do. These are the pension funds, the index funds, the retirement accounts -- the aggregated money of all the 'little people' out there. Little people who don't have visibility into how they're being constantly fleeced; nor do they have agency to do anything about it even if they did.

So yeah, "theft" feels like a pretty accurate term.

And it's reached the point where the banks don't even care about hiding it anymore. If you had a nice inside racket going on, wouldn't you at least pretend to hide your advantage, to avoid drawing attention? Not the banks. They're either too proud or too obtuse to conceal it. Look at our string of perfect trading days! Look at our record bonuses!

These boasts fall on the ears of everyday American's as the modern version of Let them eat cake!

And just like the out-of-touch French monarchs, the banks have positioned themselves as the enemy of the public. For as I claimed at the beginning of this article, a tremendous amount of the injustice in this country can be laid at the feet of the banks directly, or indirectly via the Federal Reserve.

Are you a senior who can't afford to retire because you can't live off your fixed-income savings? Thank the Fed's 0% interest rates for that.

Are you a millennial who can't afford to buy a home? Again, thank the Fed's policy of suppressing interest rates and thereby blowing another housing bubble.

Are you struggling to get out of poverty? Are you finding it hard to remain in the middle class? Whatever your income, are you having to work harder and harder to just stay in the same place? See here how the Fed's money printing, and the banks' first-position access to it, has created the most concentrated imbalance of wealth in our country's history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Are you frustrated with how our lawmakers seem to serve corporations instead of the people? Listen to this mind-blowing podcast of how gobs of lobbyist money, much of it provided by Wall Street, dictates how our politicians legislate:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/461/take-the-money-and-run-for-office

Whether it's social equity, the security of your job or retirement, your day-to-day existence, or the fairness of the laws we live under -- our fate is currently in the hands of the banks. And, of course, should their behavior trigger another meltdown of the global economy -- something we warn about often here at PeakProsperity.com -- we'll have them to thank for that, too.

Yes, the banks are going to keep writing the rules in their favor; and yes, there's little agency any of us has individually to do much about it. But as a society, we need to start addressing the dire situation we're in honestly and openly. By whatever path, we have granted the banks far too much control over our lives, and they are taking gross advantage of that. Exactly like a parasite, the banking system is siphoning off our wealth and limiting our freedoms and future prospects -- all for the benefit of an elite few.

That's wrong. It's immoral. And it's Evil.

It's far beyond time to call a spade and spade. The path to change always begins with an accurate assessment of the problem. We need to start using accurate language  -- like "evil" -- when discussing the harm we're being subjected to. We need to make it clear to our elected officials and to our communities that we understand what the banks are doing and that we find it unacceptable.

We need to make the criticism specific and personal. To JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon. To Fed Chair Janet Yellen. We need to turn up the heat on the perpetrating decision-makers, so that the borg-like structure of the banking system no longer serves as a deflective shield to scrutiny and criticism. These people need to feel the disapproving stares when speaking to the public. They need to hear the disdainful boos, and see their faces on the protest signs and nightly media reports.

And if you yourself work in the financial system, I'll be blunt. You're part of the problem. Just like my former classmates, I'm sure you're a very nice person in many ways -- but you're complicit in the banks' rapaciousness.

I know it's not pleasant to hear, or admit. I worked for an investment bank for a few years early on my career. I was part of the problem, too.

But we have a choice, both as individuals and as a society, to align our actions with our values. It's not always easy. And likely not as profitable if you indeed end up leaving the financial industry (as I can tell you from personal experience). But it's the only way we'll ultimately gain back control of our destiny.

Look, the banks' dominion is going to end one day. Either due to collapsing under the weight of the stupendous amount of debt they've helped laden our economy with, or due to an uprising from the bottom 99% once it has become fully destitute. Neither path is appealing.

So our best choice here as individuals is to position ourselves where we can be least subjected to the game the banks want to force us to play.

The 3-part series we've just concluded: The Mother Of All Financial Bubbles, The Coming Great Wealth Transfer, and When This All Blows Up offers our best guidance for preserving wealth from the predation of the bankers. If you haven't read them yet, make that your weekend reading assignment.

Finally, as a society, we need to wake up and make some hard, courageous choices. Obviously, the banks will not relinquish their control willingly. But if we start speaking truthfully and openly about the evil we're dealing with, we'll start fearing it less. It's time for us all to speak up.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-18/its-time-get-painfully-honest-banks-are-evil

Article is a bit old but thought I'd throw this out there to add variety to the section.

Lots of interesting points here.

Its sad that sites like zerohedge don't get the credit they deserve for consistently being accurate over the years, wheras more official and accepted sources have not.

4947  Economy / Economics / Re: US House Committee Passes Bill To "Audit The Fed" on: April 03, 2017, 01:03:15 PM
That bill was certainly on the right track. Federal organizations should be audited since there are already many issues regarding the federal reserves producing too many paper money which is now more than the required amount of US dollars that should be there in the circulation. Of course the federal reserve doesnt want to be audited since they are hiding many secrets and anomalies and possibly exposed big time money launderers hidden wealth in the reserve.

The bank bailout bill was passed in 2008.

The federal reserve continues to bailout banks in 2017 & probably into the future.

You're probably right that there are a lot of transactions the fed doesn't want the public to be aware of.

If only because, it might be impossible to blame russia for their indiscretions, this time.

4948  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country are you from? Here list THIRTY popular bitcoin countries for trade on: April 03, 2017, 12:59:20 PM
Wonder what happened to btc in cuba.

Last I heard cuba's wire transfers were fined @ something like 30%-40% rates.

Cuban immigrants in the united states used bitcoin to send money to their families in cuba & avoid exorbitant transfer fees.

Some countries have ridiculous fees for moving money.

It makes me wonder how those who loudly complain about 0.006 btc transfer fees would survive if they lived in cuba & learned what crazy transfer fees really look like.
4949  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Private healthcare applications w/ blockchain on: April 03, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
No its really not. They dont need a blockchain. If you listen to the podcast of Chris Derose he explains why most of the institutions that say they need a blockchain really dont. According to him its an efficiency thing. What inefficiencies is a blockchain solving in the idea of PremiumCodeX? A centralized database is always more efficient for things like those.

Blockchain is more efficient in terms of maintaining data integrity. Miner difficulty for bitcoin is very high now. At bitcoin's inception difficulty was much lower & it was possible to mine with cheaper hardware. It is possible to reach a tipping point where data integrity is cost effective in terms of hardware requirements. At least in terms of it being an additional layer of security.

I've never heard of Chris Derose. A lot of self proclaimed experts on youtube & twitter are not very reliable.

The truth is, every security measure ever invented is inefficient. Virus scan, WIFI encryption, passwords -- they're all less efficient. It doesn't mean they aren't useful.
4950  Economy / Economics / Re: Gibraltar War on: April 03, 2017, 11:45:08 AM
War is expensive, I don't know if any nation can afford it.

The united states threatening russia with war could only mean america is threatening to increase their deficit higher than $20 trillion.

War inflicts more damage to the united states, in terms of deficit & debt, than the damage done to countries they're at war with.

I don't know that european nations are any different. War at this point could deal far more self inflicted economic damage than positive tangible gains.
4951  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we stop talking about the same shit? on: April 03, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
I try to bump intelligent threads with less than 50 responses, like this one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1834310

And avoid topics with 50 pages, that have been bludgeoned to death like beating a dead horse x100.

Its normal for threads that are thought provoking to go ignored.

All forums do this, unfortunately.
4952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 210: Cormier vs Johnson Info and Prediction Thread on: April 02, 2017, 04:45:12 AM
There are a lot of unanswered questions revolving around the main event.

Can Anthony Johnson last 5 rounds?

Can he stop Daniel Cormier's takedowns the way Jon Jones and Alexander Gustafsson did?

Cormier didn't look good when he fought Anderson Silva & hasn't defended his belt since 2015.

There are questions about where Cormier is as well.
4953  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Private healthcare applications w/ blockchain on: April 02, 2017, 04:17:19 AM
That's an interesting concept.

To test ingredients contained in food might imply DNA sampling & identification and some form of chemical analysis.

Then tests for pesticides and other contaminants.

What could make that difficult is different geographic areas have food processed in different plants & the results across geographic areas would vary.

There are youtube channels where people have independently tested for things like bottled water acidity and pesticide levels in fruits and vegetables with surprising results.

If you did implement something similar to this, your testing would represent a significantly higher degree of safety regulation and quality control than what the FDA and most other official regulatory groups employ.

It all depends on how serious about quantifying ingredients someone is, I guess.
4954  Economy / Economics / Re: Smart Passive Income on: April 02, 2017, 04:06:20 AM
With websites and passive income, it all depends on click through rate.

How well website content and promotions/advertisements/sponsors "align" to produce clicks generating ad revenue/affiliate sales/etc.

There's a lot of info out there on "website conversion funnels"(whatever the proper funnel buzzword is), SEO, etc.

People have put some thought into how to design websites to maximize results & there are some techniques and approaches to it.
4955  Economy / Economics / Re: Intrinsic value?? on: April 02, 2017, 03:12:17 AM
Intrinsic value could be a contrived term.

If someone were stranded on a deserted island, I don't know if gold, silver, platinum, copper, jewels or diamonds would have much intrinsic value in terms of survival.

Fiat might be useful under those circumstances for writing SOS messages in a bottle.

The term intrinsic value could be designed to compel people to place an excess amount of faith in things like gold and silver.

Intrinsic value may be more of a philosophical term than it is a financial one.
4956  Economy / Economics / Re: Hate EU (Complain about 200 dollars on highest court!) on: April 02, 2017, 03:02:14 AM
Should also mention: systems of basic income wouldn't be sustainable as a form of wealth/wage redistribution.

Similar to pension funds, healthcare & banking systems..  basic income could be deliberately designed to fail.

Monolithic state programs almost seem intentionally built to expand deficit, destroy wealth & impoverish national economies as quickly as possible.

Basic income probably wouldn't diverge from this.

It would be yet another excuse to raise taxes where all the tax revenues would likely be spent on pointless foreign wars which grow ISIS from being a small group with influence only in the middle east, to becoming a network which encompasses the globe.

State spending needs to be functional and produce tangible positive gains, else its like the Joker in the dark knight movies lightning piles of money on fire, just to watch it burn.
4957  Economy / Economics / Re: Hate EU (Complain about 200 dollars on highest court!) on: April 01, 2017, 07:49:35 AM
I don't oppose the principle of basic income.

But I will say that when basic income and other forms of welfare are given to illegal immigrants, on open border policy. It does seem as if a deliberate attempt is being made to crash the economy of entire countries.
4958  Economy / Economics / US House Committee Passes Bill To "Audit The Fed" on: April 01, 2017, 07:47:03 AM
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The Republican-controlled Committee on Oversight and Government Reform approved a bill earlier today to allow for a congressional audit of the Federal Reserve's monetary policy, a proposal Fed policymakers have opposed and likely faces a difficult path to final approval in the Senate.  Under the bill, the Fed’s monetary policy deliberations could be subject
to outside review by the Government Accountability Office.

While similar bills have garnered some support from Democrats in the past, they uniformly spoke against the current proposal during a meeting of the House of Representatives suggesting the current iteration would face stronger resistance from an increasingly polarized environment in Washington D.C..

The House previously passed similar versions of this legislation twice before in 2012 and 2014, with dozens of Democrats joining nearly unanimous Republican support.  That said, those bills both died in the Senate and likely would have faced a Presidential veto from Obama had they survived anyway.

That said, Trump expressed interest in passing such legislation multiple times during the 2016 campaign cycle which means the 3rd time might just be the charm for Republicans.

And while proponents of the bill argue that the Fed wields too much power over the U.S. economy with minimal oversight, opponents assert that Fed decisions should be informed purely by economic indicators and completely insulated from "political pressure"...and we presume those same opponents would argue that Yellen's decision to wait until just after the conclusion of the 2016 Presidential election to start hiking rates had absolutely nothing to do with politics.  Per Reuters:

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Proponents of the measure argue that the Fed is too powerful and lacks sufficient oversight for its interest rate decisions. But Fed officials from Yellen on down, as well as other critics, have warned that such a policy could subject the Fed to undue political pressure and discourage it from taking unpopular steps for the good of the overall economy.
 
"We should not in any way hinder their independence," said Representative Carolyn Maloney, a New York Democrat, echoing the sentiment of Fed policymakers who say they could come under political pressure to avoid making unpopular decisions such as raising interest rates to slow growth and control inflation.

The next step for the bill would be a floor vote by the entire House, where Republicans hold a solid majority, followed by a Senate vote that would be much more difficult given Republcans' narrow lead.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-28/house-committee-passes-bill-audit-fed

Don't know if this will pass.

If Trump/republicans succeed in auditing the fed, it could lead to crackdowns on bank bailouts continuuing in 2017, which could in turn weaken banks--who could be an obstacle to btc and crypto.

Of course there's a good chance an audit wouldn't have any wide ranging implications. Perhaps Trump and republicans would only seek to streamline federal reserve operations and eliminate the approximately $40 billion in profits it generates.

I can't imagine bankers want Trump getting anywhere near their centralized control system over the american economy.

4959  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trackable on: April 01, 2017, 07:36:53 AM
Can I link my checking account and my bitcoin account?

Can it be tracked that I am pulling money from my checking account to my bitcoin account by the bank/investigators? My ultimate goal is to send monies back and forth like a ghost so no one and nothing can trace me.

Your account is brand new and only has one post.

If you ask for this information, intending to commit a crime.

Can those who help you be considered accomplices?

 Huh

People might want to think twice before responding to these types of posts.
4960  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: hypothesis: BU motivations (NO PROOF) on: April 01, 2017, 07:32:44 AM
I would like to share an hypothesis.

With enough asics a group of miners could offer/sell an alternative to SWIFT for banks?

The group could settle a secret agreement with some banks to raise a few billion US$ for their hash capacity (they would have to leave bitcoin).
They would need something like 40% to 50% of bitcoin hash rate to avoid attacks (Bitcoin unlimited is in almost 40%?).
They would have to keep building asics to keep hash capacity in bitcoin level. Or build even more.
Them we would live in a world with 2 major coins. Both only vulnerable to each other hash capacity.
The miner (banks backed) would have lot of budget to keep pumping asics until bitcoin is forced to change POW or other mitigation strategy.
The group would guarantee its future in asics manufacturing and operations and would ´t care if bitcoin fails. Quick $ with low risk. As it would have a signed contract with major banks to back them.
Actually this group of miners would gain with bitcoin suffering.
Banks could have a chance to have its own SWIFT and damage bitcoin considerably, gaining more time for their fiat party, with very low costs for them(comparing to acquisitions we are seeing today and the SWIFT value)

Interesting theory OP.

I wonder if this could be evidence of banks/states supporting bu.

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There could be some agenda in play where people with money and influence are spreading pro bitcoin unlimited propaganda.

If there is a hard fork, will decreasing the number of miners and nodes also lead to slower transactions?

The concept of a hard fork could be flawed if such is the case.
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