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4461  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's have a serious talk about high risks. on: July 11, 2017, 08:19:58 AM
As far as I can tell, ethereum is losing value & taking down all other crypto with it as it declines.

The price will rebound once the ethereum ICO scams are done. And after the ethereum bubble is done popping. That's my superficial surface analysis. I can't claim to have looked too deeply into this.

Ethereum was marketed as a glowing example of how "successful" a fork could be. Strange how it may come to represent the complete opposite. I hope people recognize and learn from this history however it turns out.
4462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mayweather Vs McGregor: Info and prediction thread on: July 11, 2017, 08:15:47 AM
Don't know if this will factor into the fight.

The news is saying Floyd Mayweather owes $200 million in back taxes from 2015.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/8/15941822/floyd-mayweather-owes-irs-2015-taxes-asks-for-installment-plan-conor-mcgregor-boxing-news

I think Floyd filed for bankruptcy twice. Could be painful if he files for a 3rd time. Especially with him getting older and boxing becoming less of an option.
4463  Economy / Economics / Re: Will Bitcoin 'save' Greece? on: July 10, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
I always wonder if greece and venezuela represent the future of the united states, UK and europe.

Greece and venezuela are the net result of nations attempting to tax and spend their way out of deficit and debt.

The USA and europe may not have reached a point of insolvency yet.

As things stand, its only a matter of time before we're in the same circumstances that venezuela and greece are.
4464  Economy / Economics / Re: How is the price determined for a decentralized currency like bitcoin? on: July 10, 2017, 07:51:29 PM
It might be accurate to say the price of decentralized currencies are determined by many of the same market forces which determine the prices of other more standardized currencies.

There may not be any major differences other than ownership demographics(in terms of proportion), the means of currency production(crypto mining vs central bank issued), trading not being optimized in favor of HFT(darkpools) and a few other things.
4465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: July 10, 2017, 07:42:04 PM
Always lose at gambling definitely describes me of late. For some strange reason, I keep making bad decisions expecting to do well. I think its greed overriding basic competence. I'll have to think about it for awhile. This is something I struggled with for a long time. I'm trying to learn not to worship money and not let it affect my decisions. Its not that easy though.
4466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Funding a movie with Bitcoin possible? on: July 10, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
Its definitely possible with a straight to DVD movie. Or one of those fan made films that stream for free on youtube. It might even be possible to get Kevin Sorbo or another somewhat name actor if the movie is for a good cause or attracts the right kind of attention.

Don't think that you need money or crypto to make a movie. There are a lot of volunteer based budget projects out there that worked with little funding and few resources that managed to do decent work.
4467  Economy / Exchanges / Re: I want to invest $200K to set up an exchange and I need your help on: July 10, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
5. Is there still good money to be made in mining? Anyone with knowledge looking for some investor?

Here's an interesting article which says mining is much more profitable than it used to be due to the latest series of big price movements upward.

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Bitcoin's Price Surge is Making Hobby Mining Profitable Again

Jul 9, 2017 at 12:30 by Bailey Reutzel

Roque Solis never imagined the bitcoin mining equipment he bought in February would have already paid for itself. And on top of that, made him money.

Solis is the president of SoliSYSTEMS Corp, a company that developed an EMV smart card for electronic benefit transfer for the federal assistance program, Women, Infants, and Children (WIC). While attending several conferences last year, Solis was unable to ignore bitcoin. So, he decided to experiment with the technology via mining to get a better handle on whether the technology could be used within his company.

Solis bought a Bitmain Antminer S9 on eBay for $2,400.

As of this weekend, Solis has mined 1.01 BTC, worth a little more than $2,584 in his bitcoin wallet.

Solis said:

"When I bought the miner, the price per bitcoin was around $1,200. I thought I’d break even in one year, but actually it’s been about five months."

These gains, though, are particularly interesting in that, even last year, individual hobby mining wasn't profitable anymore. Individuals with just one or two miners couldn't compete with the companies mining bitcoin using large warehouses full of servers dedicated to the task (and seeing lucrative returns as the price rose).

But that was with the price below $600, which, with electricity costs and mining pool fees, would take a person more than 500 days to break even on their bitcoin miner investment.

With an increased awareness and usage of mining pools, and the price now far higher, hobby miners – as Solis' experience shows – can break even in several months.

According to Solis, the amount of money he’s making per day with the miner jumped from $7 to $16 recently, as the price shot up.

Price matters

And to bitcoin's enthusiasts this is evidence that the increase really does benefit the network more broadly.

According to Sean Walsh, a partner at Redwood City Ventures, a bitcoin and blockchain consulting and investment firm. Walsh said, the rising bitcoin price has done more than reinvigorate investors, it's also led to increased interest in bitcoin mining, a key process that supports the network by securing its ledger.

Walsh told CoinDesk:

"There are a lot of metrics that actually matter, like the number of people that own at least one bitcoin, but nobody cares about that. It's just price. It's the one score that wakes people up, and when The Wall Street Journal and other financial publications write about bitcoin."

And the Google Trends for "bitcoin" and "bitcoin mining" tell a similar story. Many of the peaks in the chart for both terms coincide with spikes in price.

Yet, it's not only the price per bitcoin that's luring in new bitcoin mining hobbyists. According to Walsh, while bitcoin transaction fees were relatively stable for a long time, in the past couple years, those fees have seen an uptick.

"This has to do with the block size debate, because the network is a bit congested, and people are having to pay more to get their transactions confirmed," he said.

Whereas only a few years ago, around 100 bitcoins per day was paid in transaction fees, in the past couple months, transaction fees have equaled around 350 bitcoins a day, Walsh said, pointing to stats on bitcoin data website Blockchain.info.

And with 1,800 bitcoins produced daily, 350 bitcoins is close to 20% of that. This is in stark contrast to a year ago when only 60 bitcoins were paid in transaction fees and 3,600 bitcoins were being produced daily (before the halving), making the percentage paid in fees around 1.6%.

"That's a huge boost," Walsh said.

He continued:

"I don't know that [increasing transaction fees] are affecting people's interest in getting into mining. People may not realize why it's more lucrative to mine bitcoins now, but when they run the numbers, the payback period looks better than it used to."

New blood

But those who have been in the cryptocurrency space for a while know this story, and would likely caution against Solis and others thinking that the upward momentum will continue.

Warning of future corrections, Walsh said:

"It’s very important for people entering bitcoin mining that they really understand how to calculate their revenue and expenses. They need to make sure their cost basis and operating costs are very low."

For example, if new miners overspend on hosting servers, when there's a correction, they're over-leveraged. And that's a cardinal sin in any investment, said Walsh.

Bitcoin was down about 20% over the last couple weeks of June.

Walsh called the downswings just "normal respiration of an asset class," yet others not so versed in investing might be unaware of these fluctuations and get themselves in trouble.

For Solis, though, it's all about learning through experience.

The Antminer S9 is running in SoliSYSTEM’s server room in the company’s office in Allen, Texas. Solis isn't able to identify just how much electricity the miner is using, though, since there’s clusters of servers there already.

"It is noisy, though," Solis said. "Compared to the other servers, it’s very noisy."

And that's because it's a machine with two specialized ASIC boards, crunching numbers with a fan that rotates at 5,400–7,000 revolutions per minute, he said.

Solis isn't only interested in bitcoin. Having been introduced to ethereum's ether token and the network's smart contract architecture, he had one of his employees buy some immediately via an online exchange several weeks ago. And he plans to start mining ether soon.

He's also researching Hyperledger and other private blockchain systems.

All this, so he can better envision the use cases for his company. According to Solis, the company is looking into how blockchain could underpin a mobile, closed-loop electronic benefits transfer system.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-price-surge-is-making-hobby-mining-profitable-again/

That's nice to hear. It could contribute towards crypto becoming more decentralized in terms of mining not being completely ruled by large conglomerates who are united.
4468  Economy / Economics / Re: Would bitcoin help teach kids about saving? on: July 09, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
Saving is a patience based delayed gratification system of managing finance. Its a long term view.

The mentality most young people are raised to have could be accurately described as earning-something-for-nothing / instant gratification. That mentality focuses more on the short term.

The mentality most young people have is the opposite of a saving mentality.

I doubt bitcoin would change or influence that. Most youth probably view bitcoin merely as a way to get rich or make money quick scheme. They lack the perspective of early adopters who have experienced the potential for long term buy and hold.
4469  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin in Economics class? on: July 09, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
I am sure the curriculum in colleges is influenced by the country you are in and the government which is in power.
If you are in a socialist country, then the economics classroom is likely to teach anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, propaganda.

If you've ever seen the term globalist used in economics or political discussion.

Globalist implies anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, propaganda being pushed on a global scale.

Many globalists are secretly members of the communist party. They're the ones who hate america and want to see it destroyed, they resent the sight of the american flag as its a symbol of capitalism and freedom.
4470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 213: Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 09, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Michael Bisping would have had a better chance of defeating Yoel Romero. Now he'll face a tougher opponent in Robert Whittaker. Its crazy how the level of MMA continues to increase to where fights are getting ridiculous in terms of the athleticism and punishment these guys can take and dish out.

Crazy that australia crowned two new champions inside something like a week or two with Jeff Horn getting the nod over Pacquiao and Robert Whittaker winning the interim belt. If Mark Hunt could take the belt at heavyweight that would give them 3 champs.
4471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which Sport is the easiest to wager/win on: July 09, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
There are times where US baseball, basketball and football are very easy. Sometimes I can achieve 60%-80% accuracy. In other weeks it can drop to 20%-40% accuracy.

In the past MMA was easy. Its much more difficult and unpredictable now. A lot of fights I can't tell who won the fight, even if I saw it happen.   Cheesy

4472  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin in Economics class? on: July 08, 2017, 07:48:31 PM
There's a lot of anti-capitalist, pro-socialist, propaganda taught in economics classrooms these days.

If bitcoin was covered in classrooms, it would likely parallel the anti crypto propaganda stance portrayed by the media.

Education might have been about learning, knowledge and facts once. Those days are gone. Education doesn't function as anything more than mind control in most cases.
4473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain-Ver agenda exposed on: July 08, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
That could confirm what many of us have been saying for a long time. Things like.

#1 The block size debate should have been more about implementing methods to prevent spam DDoS transactions.

#2 Block size was never the issue, the real problem was nefarious activity which couldn't be classified as legitimate user behavior.

#3 Increasing block size wouldn't fix the issue as larger block sizes would never stop or prevent DDoS transaction spam.

Etc, etc.
4474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 08, 2017, 07:34:45 PM
We have more info on this one already:

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-214?id=

I already picked up my winners

D Cormier vs Jon Jones: DC wins
Woodley vs Maia: Woodley wins
Cyborg vs Evinger: Cyborg wins
Lawler vs Cerrone: Cerrone wins
Sage Northcut vs Magdesi: Northcut wins

I have no idea about the rest so im not picking any sides.

Im going for DC because Jon Jones has fucked up so many times with drugs, that DC will win either by DQ on jones, or by Jones underperforming due his head being a mess, and you can't make a single mistake with DC or it's over.

Jon Jones problem is substance abuse. Alcohol, cocaine, whatever. DC's problem seems to be controlling his eating. Maybe DC is similar to Johny Hendricks. I'm not certain how that will go down. DC looked a lot better fighting Rumble Johnson than Jon Jones looked fighting Ovince St Preux.

Didn't realize Sage Northcutt was fighting. That guy does a good job with his social media and self promotion. I think that's why he gets paid more than other athletes. Sage Northcutt has about twice as many twitter followers as Gegard Mousasi. If only he could do better in his fights.
4475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 213: Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 08, 2017, 07:29:10 PM
Shevchenko came out and tried to wrestle Julianna Pena. I'm wondering if she'll try to do something similar with Amanda Nunes being that Nunes gased out inside 1 round when she tried to wrestle Cat Zingano.

BTW the fight between Michael Johnson and Justin Gaethje was incredible for anyone who missed it. One of the most ridiculous fights I've ever seen.
4476  Economy / Economics / Re: Compare Bitcoin to Other Investment Instruments (Stocks, Real Estates, Etc.) on: July 08, 2017, 07:25:28 PM
One major issue with real estate and stocks are stagnant wages. When wage growth is limited over a period of time, it decreases the buying power of consumers. Low wage growth can lead to decreased purchase of real estate(as fewer consumers have the wages to afford it), which in turn can lower the value of real estate on dwindling demand.

Stagnant wages can also negatively affect the value of stocks. Decreased wages can lead to decrease buying power which in turn negatively affects retail outlets, leading to decreased sales/demand. These variables can contribute towards the value of stocks diminishing on decreasing demand.

Crypto could be a better investment than stocks or real estate being that it isn't truly mainstream, its in a growing phase and demand for it could increase by a substantial portion. Which in turn could translate to higher value.
4477  Economy / Economics / Re: How cryptocurrency empower small businesses and local economy! Gx by Genevieve on: July 07, 2017, 09:37:29 PM
If you'd take the time to analyse the post, e.g. quoting it to see if there is a hidden redirection, the links go to where they state. Cryptocoin (a trusted site) and their website, lest trustable, that advertised their coin. It is completely safe.

I personally think all these gimmick coins have lost their novelty.

Did you try analyzing the 2nd link posted, which looks like their personal site?:


I tried loading it through a proxy (with scripts, objects, etc deactivated) earlier & it didn't work.

In case it wasn't obvious, that's what I was referring to.
4478  Economy / Economics / Re: How cryptocurrency empower small businesses and local economy! Gx by Genevieve on: July 07, 2017, 07:24:39 PM
If you leave only a link, many would not click on it for fear of it leading to a site containing malware.

If you post an article that is well written and informative along with the link, that could be a better format for people being interested and deciding to visit your website.

Also having 1 activity isn't something that would give people confidence.
4479  Economy / Economics / Re: Wall Street's Migration To Crypto Continues: Former Bain Manager Opens LatAm Bit on: July 07, 2017, 07:20:52 PM
Instead of focusing on altcoins and funding new projects, perhaps they should look at the existing alternatives? Hint: Bitcoin anyone? I mean yeah they have listed bitcoin in there but it seems like they're more interested in the prospect of being able to invest in copycat shitcoins.

Copycat shitcoins are the same thing as subprime mortgage derivatives if you think about it. Selling worthless, overpriced, toxic assets (shitcoins) is how many finance firms make money. Their profits aren't a result of building real value or worth over the long term. Instead its moreso based on ripping people off, cheating the system, over the short term?

There are many examples and historical facts which could support this.

4480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 213: Nunes vs Shevchenko 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 07, 2017, 07:09:58 PM
People are wondering why they have fights on friday when they usually have them on Saturday.
Is this a new thing they are experimenting with now?

I'm not 100% certain, I think a lot of "The Ultimate Fighter" finale's are scheduled on fridays. Can't claim to know the reasoning behind that.

This TUF finale was also on a friday: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Joanna_vs._Team_Cl%C3%A1udia#The_Ultimate_Fighter_23_Finale

If you're curious you can see a list of UFC events, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events

Bellator schedules some of their events for fridays and the UFC schedules their shows for saturdays. Maybe to avoid conflicts or competing for the same viewer demographic in TV ratings.

The UFC being the larger organization, they probably get the best days on the schedule.
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