I hold Stratis and Ark. They are not competitors at all. Stratis is targeting corporations and Ark tries to be one and everything when you think of a platform. Stratis are ahead right now and safer bet I think, but if Ark delivers everything they are trying to do, then it will be a massive homerun.
Waves is about to put out their new exchange and wallet, which will very likely lead to a new bull market for the token. Good time to diversify.
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Those who were selling under emotions now what they have left to say or do except to buy less now with same amount of money. Monaco is still more advanced and advantageous than many projects running in the same field. In this market patience is the only key to get out with profit else you just loose.
Now Monaco tokens hold those who believe in the project and those who bought too expensive. They'll be lucky if in the near future will not appear a new competitor, otherwise they'll have to hold it a very long time. There is almost a dozen of competitors around and the number will keep increasing. If they don't address the asset contract real soon they will lose a very significant amount of market share in the long run.
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Damn, and here I was ready to buy more next week before the fork. Too bad they cancelled it (from a profit perspective). Guess it was the right move for Bitcoin as a whole though.
I feel you man, the announcement was made literally a few minutes before I decided to purchase more SONM. Unfortunately I didn't get in before it started climbing :/ Should've seen it coming with the Segwit2x fork called off to be fair. Too bad I got greedy this time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Anytime i will always go for ERC20, wave supported tokens isn't as popular as ERC20 very easy to use. I got a wave token don't know what to do with it till this moment.
It does seem like that is bound to change in the near future though. Waves coming out with a new platform soon, if done right that could be a game changer. From all of these posts and their slack/ telegram channels, It seems like something big is coming. All I can think about is the movie the Aviator, the final scene, where he goes crazy and keeps saying "way of the future" WAVES OF THE FUTURE The noise has definitely been ramping up quite a bit. Very curious what will happen now with the new exchange being tested already.
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Damn, and here I was ready to buy more next week before the fork. Too bad they cancelled it (from a profit perspective). Guess it was the right move for Bitcoin as a whole though.
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Hello BTCMILLIONAIRE, Im an early holder of MCO, still hold all my MCO, which are little more than 10,000 and I will hold till I get my card and I believe this project. I tried: Cryptopay card, which is extremely expensive to use and support is awful, asking you to provide notary verified selfie ( WHAT??!? ), notary verified utility bill and notary verified passport scan....... Tenx - still no card, just stupid live sessions with the CEO, I dont even want to know, how he does look like, but that's the only thing I get from there now and especially, they already charged me for the card. Bitpay/Xapo - it's quite easy to understand, why not to use them, if all your transactions actually goes through BitGo. Monaco - received official green light from Visa and Im really happy about this, Singapore on the way, some more Asian countries and Europe on the way, so Im just waiting and I never count, what if I stayed in BTC, it just too stupid, I could sell Bitcoins to fiat for 8$, and then what, how would I have to calculate these losses ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )))) I understand your emotion about smart asset contracts, but some members already provided the calculations, which must make you understand, that it was actually useless, each second post I see here is yours, please stop your FUD, over and over again, the same story, it make you look like bad BTCMillionaire, who invested too much to the MCO, be wise. No. No members provided any reasonable calculations. Kris claimed that the asset contract is "mathematically pointless" and people kept parroting that. But that's complete and utter bullshit. There will be hundreds of millions in revenue in the coming few years, and easily multiple billions of revenue around the second half of 2020-2030. Take just 1 Billion for example, that means +$33.33 of revenue per 1 MCO per year. That means that your 10k tokens would generate you $333,300 USD per year at 1 billion from around 2025 onward. Keep in mind that all Visa cards combined have a yearly purchase volume of over 5 trillion per year. So it's not too far fetched to assume that a strong crypto card could see an annual revenue of multiple billions per year, which at "just" 5 billion would imply a yearly income of 1.667 Million USD for your 10000 MCO tokens. And that's not even considering the token value itself, that is literally just the dividend. This is what every serious investor knew about and invested for. And it's obviously that "mathematically pointless" is complete horseshit, it's either a blatant lie by Kris, or an indicator that he's not capable of basic Mathematics. Even with far weaker performance you would have 50k to 200k per year from your tokens in the early 2020s based on MCO's prognosis. If you, or anyone, really believes that to be worthless I don't know how to help them. They're a lost cause. Yes. The card is beautiful, yes it's nice to have. But no, the asset contract is not worthless and only someone with absolutely no understanding of the real world would truly believe that. Anyone who claims otherwise either has no idea what they are talking about or is blatantly lying to raise the short term token price.If you would have to choose, as a CEO of the company - to be removed all of your coins from the available exchanges or the change the idea of asset contract? What would you ? Nice story about billions ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) in 2030.... I would use the millions of dollars that I've raised to consult my team of lawyers and work out a proper solution that will ensure that everybody who invested in my company gets what I've promised them instead of making up lies. And billions are literally nothing in this market, the fact that you think it'll take until 2030 means that you either don't understand anything or don't believe in MonaCo in the first place. Plus the same 10k tokens would be creating at least 30k and up to around 150k by 2020. it's just the business, if you have met dotcom and start-up boom, you had to know this, rules can be changed anytime, have you read terms&conditions of MCO ? not the whitepaper, which does not have law protection actually. they have legal rights to act like this. I just believe ,that there will be much more competitors by 2030 and probably just 1 and not MCO, I never make my investments for 10 years frame, 1-3 years max. You would literally suck off Satan if he offered you some money in return, wouldn't you? It doesn't matter if there are no laws that stop MCO from literally lying to investors. It's still not the right thing to do and the fact that you defend such acts really gives away your character. Good luck shilling turds for profits, you will need it. You are too emotional, when talking about sucking, calm down, otherwise it's a some kind of "COMING UP". We can stop our discuss now, I would slam your face, but you are internet hero ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) feel safe I'm not emotional. I'm being objective. But qualities like honesty and pointing out flaws have always been a thorn in the eye of greedy and incompetent little boys who immediately start flexing once they realize that they are not mentally capable of defending their false position any longer. You have basically just proven that I was right all along and that you're just a greedy little shill who now resorts to the classic "but I would beat you up irl" (you wouldn't). My predictions were correct too: The crypto market doesn't give a shit about honesty and MCO is rising in the short term just like every other coin. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Good luck to you guys once the bubbles start popping though, you will need it. The same happens with literally every hype cycle, be it dot com, penny stocks, or in this case crypto.
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Hello BTCMILLIONAIRE, Im an early holder of MCO, still hold all my MCO, which are little more than 10,000 and I will hold till I get my card and I believe this project. I tried: Cryptopay card, which is extremely expensive to use and support is awful, asking you to provide notary verified selfie ( WHAT??!? ), notary verified utility bill and notary verified passport scan....... Tenx - still no card, just stupid live sessions with the CEO, I dont even want to know, how he does look like, but that's the only thing I get from there now and especially, they already charged me for the card. Bitpay/Xapo - it's quite easy to understand, why not to use them, if all your transactions actually goes through BitGo. Monaco - received official green light from Visa and Im really happy about this, Singapore on the way, some more Asian countries and Europe on the way, so Im just waiting and I never count, what if I stayed in BTC, it just too stupid, I could sell Bitcoins to fiat for 8$, and then what, how would I have to calculate these losses ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )))) I understand your emotion about smart asset contracts, but some members already provided the calculations, which must make you understand, that it was actually useless, each second post I see here is yours, please stop your FUD, over and over again, the same story, it make you look like bad BTCMillionaire, who invested too much to the MCO, be wise. No. No members provided any reasonable calculations. Kris claimed that the asset contract is "mathematically pointless" and people kept parroting that. But that's complete and utter bullshit. There will be hundreds of millions in revenue in the coming few years, and easily multiple billions of revenue around the second half of 2020-2030. Take just 1 Billion for example, that means +$33.33 of revenue per 1 MCO per year. That means that your 10k tokens would generate you $333,300 USD per year at 1 billion from around 2025 onward. Keep in mind that all Visa cards combined have a yearly purchase volume of over 5 trillion per year. So it's not too far fetched to assume that a strong crypto card could see an annual revenue of multiple billions per year, which at "just" 5 billion would imply a yearly income of 1.667 Million USD for your 10000 MCO tokens. And that's not even considering the token value itself, that is literally just the dividend. This is what every serious investor knew about and invested for. And it's obviously that "mathematically pointless" is complete horseshit, it's either a blatant lie by Kris, or an indicator that he's not capable of basic Mathematics. Even with far weaker performance you would have 50k to 200k per year from your tokens in the early 2020s based on MCO's prognosis. If you, or anyone, really believes that to be worthless I don't know how to help them. They're a lost cause. Yes. The card is beautiful, yes it's nice to have. But no, the asset contract is not worthless and only someone with absolutely no understanding of the real world would truly believe that. Anyone who claims otherwise either has no idea what they are talking about or is blatantly lying to raise the short term token price.If you would have to choose, as a CEO of the company - to be removed all of your coins from the available exchanges or the change the idea of asset contract? What would you ? Nice story about billions ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) in 2030.... I would use the millions of dollars that I've raised to consult my team of lawyers and work out a proper solution that will ensure that everybody who invested in my company gets what I've promised them instead of making up lies. And billions are literally nothing in this market, the fact that you think it'll take until 2030 means that you either don't understand anything or don't believe in MonaCo in the first place. Plus the same 10k tokens would be creating at least 30k and up to around 150k by 2020. it's just the business, if you have met dotcom and start-up boom, you had to know this, rules can be changed anytime, have you read terms&conditions of MCO ? not the whitepaper, which does not have law protection actually. they have legal rights to act like this. I just believe ,that there will be much more competitors by 2030 and probably just 1 and not MCO, I never make my investments for 10 years frame, 1-3 years max. You would literally suck off Satan if he offered you some money in return, wouldn't you? It doesn't matter if there are no laws that stop MCO from literally lying to investors. It's still not the right thing to do and the fact that you defend such acts really gives away your character. Good luck shilling turds for profits, you will need it.
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Hello BTCMILLIONAIRE, Im an early holder of MCO, still hold all my MCO, which are little more than 10,000 and I will hold till I get my card and I believe this project. I tried: Cryptopay card, which is extremely expensive to use and support is awful, asking you to provide notary verified selfie ( WHAT??!? ), notary verified utility bill and notary verified passport scan....... Tenx - still no card, just stupid live sessions with the CEO, I dont even want to know, how he does look like, but that's the only thing I get from there now and especially, they already charged me for the card. Bitpay/Xapo - it's quite easy to understand, why not to use them, if all your transactions actually goes through BitGo. Monaco - received official green light from Visa and Im really happy about this, Singapore on the way, some more Asian countries and Europe on the way, so Im just waiting and I never count, what if I stayed in BTC, it just too stupid, I could sell Bitcoins to fiat for 8$, and then what, how would I have to calculate these losses ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )))) I understand your emotion about smart asset contracts, but some members already provided the calculations, which must make you understand, that it was actually useless, each second post I see here is yours, please stop your FUD, over and over again, the same story, it make you look like bad BTCMillionaire, who invested too much to the MCO, be wise. No. No members provided any reasonable calculations. Kris claimed that the asset contract is "mathematically pointless" and people kept parroting that. But that's complete and utter bullshit. There will be hundreds of millions in revenue in the coming few years, and easily multiple billions of revenue around the second half of 2020-2030. Take just 1 Billion for example, that means +$33.33 of revenue per 1 MCO per year. That means that your 10k tokens would generate you $333,300 USD per year at 1 billion from around 2025 onward. Keep in mind that all Visa cards combined have a yearly purchase volume of over 5 trillion per year. So it's not too far fetched to assume that a strong crypto card could see an annual revenue of multiple billions per year, which at "just" 5 billion would imply a yearly income of 1.667 Million USD for your 10000 MCO tokens. And that's not even considering the token value itself, that is literally just the dividend. This is what every serious investor knew about and invested for. And it's obviously that "mathematically pointless" is complete horseshit, it's either a blatant lie by Kris, or an indicator that he's not capable of basic Mathematics. Even with far weaker performance you would have 50k to 200k per year from your tokens in the early 2020s based on MCO's prognosis. If you, or anyone, really believes that to be worthless I don't know how to help them. They're a lost cause. Yes. The card is beautiful, yes it's nice to have. But no, the asset contract is not worthless and only someone with absolutely no understanding of the real world would truly believe that. Anyone who claims otherwise either has no idea what they are talking about or is blatantly lying to raise the short term token price.If you would have to choose, as a CEO of the company - to be removed all of your coins from the available exchanges or the change the idea of asset contract? What would you ? Nice story about billions ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) in 2030.... I would use the millions of dollars that I've raised to consult my team of lawyers and work out a proper solution that will ensure that everybody who invested in my company gets what I've promised them instead of making up lies. And billions are literally nothing in this market, the fact that you think it'll take until 2030 means that you either don't understand anything or don't believe in MonaCo in the first place. Plus the same 10k tokens would be creating at least 30k and up to around 150k by 2020.
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I have waves rented in Waveslite but when I entered the application I can not see them and what's worse I can not cancel them. How can I withdraw or sell my waves if they are retained?
"To cancel a lease, click on the black button in the far right column of the Leasing Transactions table below and select Cancel Leasing."
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when we will see LNC ON any exchange? when bounty will end? PLEASE REPLY.
The answer to both questions is in December or January.
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If you've already raised $11m, why would you need to extend the ICO? What do you need more money for? $11m is enough to pay for the development of a platform and heavy international marketing.
As i mentioned, We are extending the ICO period till December 15, 2017 in order to reach out exclusively to the freelance community We aim to educate freelancers regarding blockchain technology, ICO & facilitate them to buy tokens and use the platform post its release, i.e after November 15, 2017 Please note, our platform release date is still same. If it would have been only about money, yes this sounds enough, but we at coinlancer are more kind of product oriented. I request you to join our webinar, you will find it good. You don't need to extend the ICO to reach more people. You can simply start advertising if your platform is already ready anyways. There's no need to keep the ICO going and it won't bring any attention to freelancers. Freelancers want to earn money in exchange for work, not buy your tokens. Being "product oriented" doesn't justify any extension of the ICO either because development of a website doesn't cost millions. Believe me i keep somewhat similar concept here in consent to your comment. Even we are interested in Freelancers, and to make your platform worth you need clients as well. And to diverse your area you need acquisitions/ takeovers. I hope you understand my point here. If you are interested in acquisitions/takeovers you should be interested in keeping the value of your company low though. Nobody wants to buy an expensive company. Especially when it's something as simple as a website. At $11m it's already far cheaper to create your own platform and to use your connections as a M&A professional or VC to propel your platform forward. So that reason doesn't make any sense either.
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If you've already raised $11m, why would you need to extend the ICO? What do you need more money for? $11m is enough to pay for the development of a platform and heavy international marketing.
As i mentioned, We are extending the ICO period till December 15, 2017 in order to reach out exclusively to the freelance community We aim to educate freelancers regarding blockchain technology, ICO & facilitate them to buy tokens and use the platform post its release, i.e after November 15, 2017 Please note, our platform release date is still same. If it would have been only about money, yes this sounds enough, but we at coinlancer are more kind of product oriented. I request you to join our webinar, you will find it good. You don't need to extend the ICO to reach more people. You can simply start advertising if your platform is already ready anyways. There's no need to keep the ICO going and it won't bring any attention to freelancers. Freelancers want to earn money in exchange for work, not buy your tokens. Being "product oriented" doesn't justify any extension of the ICO either because development of a website doesn't cost millions.
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If we can educate our kids at home why do we need to send them at school?
If socialization is a problem in homeschooling, there are many solutions to that ;-)
I would love to hear the solutions for socialization considering homeschooling. Possible ways to foster socializing include getting in contact with other families who homeschool their children, offering your children to go to a sports or similar kind of club that they enjoy, they can go to music school and/or band practice, or they can just socialize through the internet. I'm sure there are countless other ways too. Don't you think that families with home schooled children have more or less same values, way of thinking etc...? (Same can be applied for music school.) How will a child learn to cope with something that is far out of his/hers comfort zone? Internet is the most unsociable way of socializing, it is easy to stand your ground behind a computer and something totally different if you have to do it in front of a group of people. I believe that homeschooling doesn't give you a variety of needed interactions with different groups people and it does not prepare you for real life. No, they don't have the same values. And that's irrelevant anyways if you do your job as a parent right. It doesn't take much to talk to your kid about different possible ways to handle situations. And socializing in school is a complete joke anyways. I honestly don't understand how people can even try to make that an argument. In school you are forced into a random group of people that you have nothing in common with. There's absolutely no merit in forcing your child into such a situation when you can just let it choose freely who it wants to interact with. And no, the internet definitely isn't the "most unsocial way to interact with people". If anything, the internet is a far better way of socializing because people can talk about their problems openly without repercussion if they want to. That's not possible in school at all, where you could easily get bullied or shunned for the rest of your time at school if you speak up about something. Not to mention that school is a place of mediocrity and lazy little shits who have forgotten how to live life. I certainly wouldn't want my kid to become another brainless zombie who just follows stupid trends just to belong to some herd of uninspired, lazy and incompetent people. Kids are much happier when they can do what they want freely while being encouraged to challenge themselves as well as supported when things get rough. None of this happens in school. If school was a good method of raising a happy and successful child the world wouldn't consist of 99% unhappy and unsuccessful people who look back at their lives in old age and whine about how much they have missed out on.
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If you've already raised $11m, why would you need to extend the ICO? What do you need more money for? $11m is enough to pay for the development of a platform and heavy international marketing.
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Hello BTCMILLIONAIRE, Im an early holder of MCO, still hold all my MCO, which are little more than 10,000 and I will hold till I get my card and I believe this project. I tried: Cryptopay card, which is extremely expensive to use and support is awful, asking you to provide notary verified selfie ( WHAT??!? ), notary verified utility bill and notary verified passport scan....... Tenx - still no card, just stupid live sessions with the CEO, I dont even want to know, how he does look like, but that's the only thing I get from there now and especially, they already charged me for the card. Bitpay/Xapo - it's quite easy to understand, why not to use them, if all your transactions actually goes through BitGo. Monaco - received official green light from Visa and Im really happy about this, Singapore on the way, some more Asian countries and Europe on the way, so Im just waiting and I never count, what if I stayed in BTC, it just too stupid, I could sell Bitcoins to fiat for 8$, and then what, how would I have to calculate these losses ? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )))) I understand your emotion about smart asset contracts, but some members already provided the calculations, which must make you understand, that it was actually useless, each second post I see here is yours, please stop your FUD, over and over again, the same story, it make you look like bad BTCMillionaire, who invested too much to the MCO, be wise. No. No members provided any reasonable calculations. Kris claimed that the asset contract is "mathematically pointless" and people kept parroting that. But that's complete and utter bullshit. There will be hundreds of millions in revenue in the coming few years, and easily multiple billions of revenue around the second half of 2020-2030. Take just 1 Billion for example, that means +$33.33 of revenue per 1 MCO per year. That means that your 10k tokens would generate you $333,300 USD per year at 1 billion from around 2025 onward. Keep in mind that all Visa cards combined have a yearly purchase volume of over 5 trillion per year. So it's not too far fetched to assume that a strong crypto card could see an annual revenue of multiple billions per year, which at "just" 5 billion would imply a yearly income of 1.667 Million USD for your 10000 MCO tokens. And that's not even considering the token value itself, that is literally just the dividend. This is what every serious investor knew about and invested for. And it's obviously that "mathematically pointless" is complete horseshit, it's either a blatant lie by Kris, or an indicator that he's not capable of basic Mathematics. Even with far weaker performance you would have 50k to 200k per year from your tokens in the early 2020s based on MCO's prognosis. If you, or anyone, really believes that to be worthless I don't know how to help them. They're a lost cause. Yes. The card is beautiful, yes it's nice to have. But no, the asset contract is not worthless and only someone with absolutely no understanding of the real world would truly believe that. Anyone who claims otherwise either has no idea what they are talking about or is blatantly lying to raise the short term token price.
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Would like to ask again since it apparently passed under the radar.
Is it going to be possible to start mining in August already?
You can lend your left over computational power to others in return for SONM. They will make this marketplace future in the new release on the testnet. They will eliminate all bugs and make 99,99% sure their code is working. Than publish it on the testnet and u can earn real SONM. It depends if there are any bugs found that cause to a delay, we don't know. Be patient and keep on smiling, long term this coin will make us rich. Thanks for the people who sold to me at basically the lowest point. Thanks for the answer. I was wondering if it would be possible to rent my rig out in August 2018 when the next version goes live though? Or is that a bit later? It really depends on the development speed of the team. They have alot of developers, with good skills so I think they could finish the platform on schedule. Have u ever heard of Waves? They had some delays, but went from 0.2$ ICO price to 5-6$. Now it is stable at 3-4$, if we could make such an growth, we will see price around 2.5$ ground level. Patience will be rewarded. I own quite a few Waves since below $1 actually. I'm not worried about my SONM tokens either, I'll be keeping them for many years since I'm fairly confident that the "dividends" could easily cover my living expenses in the future. I'm just curious when I should start preparing additional mining rigs to support the SONM network. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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dogecoin will fall to 1 satoshi soon
It's been falling to 1 satoshi for years. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I always admire the website of waves. But the only problem I have is that I think there are fewer people actively participating in the trading portion. No active announcements of new releases of tokens and that searching for trades are a bit hard since you need to manually enter the name of the token (which for my slow internet does not work) or by putting the token identifier which works. Maybe a redesign of the website might be useful.
Beta release of the new DEX is coming Nov 20. Whishes granted Much earlier than I anticipated. Very nice!
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People are moving their alts to bitcoins because of the fork. I expect them to move back to alts after.
But yeah, Bitcoin never really lost dominance. It just regained some lost ground is all.
what is the fork exactly? It's when the blockchain (the leder that saves all transactions) splits into two. It basically creates two copies of a coin.
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So after all that reading i did i couldnt came to a conlusion regarding to what is better... invest my 5k before the Fork to get that extra x2 coins or just invest after Fork while btc gets its correction??? Thanks
My advice will be based on my latest fork experiences. If you want to get more profit better buy altcoins while prices are dead and hold for next year. There are many speculations around bitcoin.If you wanna to buy cheap bitcoin better to wait for news after fork. Why hold for 1 year i think you might be busy or sleeping during the fork all prices rocketed to the sky , every single alt was being pumped including doge. A better strategy would be buy alts before the fork and sell it when you see coins getting pumped it will be more profitable than b2x. So after all that reading i did i couldnt came to a conlusion regarding to what is better... invest my 5k before the Fork to get that extra x2 coins or just invest after Fork while btc gets its correction??? Thanks
My advice will be based on my latest fork experiences. If you want to get more profit better buy altcoins while prices are dead and hold for next year. There are many speculations around bitcoin.If you wanna to buy cheap bitcoin better to wait for news after fork. I think you're the first person I've seen on this forum who suggests this (and I agree fully). Bitcoin too risky with too little upside right now for my taste. I doubt weather you telling the truth look around the forum so many people have the same opinion. New to the forums and bitcoin in general.. definitely will watch these threads closely before deciding what to do.
Keep waiting till next year no hurry. After SegWit occurs make a post about your regret for not buying btc before the fork , don't wait the more you are waiting the higher the price get's. I think the only way to win here is not to play. If 80% of the hash power goes to the B2X altcoin then the price of BTC will crash a huge amount. Also, who knows what B2x will be worth afterwards? Will probably be very unstable but not even close to what btc is worth
If yiu didn't know there are many coins which are way more profitable to mine than btc simply 80% power won't shift to a new coin maybe 20% power would me max not more than that. I haven't seen any posts like that lately, I can't possibly read every post though so there's bound to be others who think the same. I was just surprised to find someone with the same opinion for a change.
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