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4161  Economy / Economics / Re: What is Usury? "De Florijn" project and interest-free credit. on: May 10, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Interest is essentially the price of trust and liquidity (which is very similar !).

Of course trust is a factor (people with lower credit rating pay higher interest), but the primary factor is opportunity cost.

If I have money, I can choose to either invest it or loan it. If I loan it at no interest, then I have lost any money I could have made by investing it. If you want me to loan you money that I could otherwise invest, it is going to cost you.
4162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If only.... on: May 10, 2017, 06:52:45 PM
Anyway today my 27 bitcoins would have been worth £37000 and a nice £22000 profit.  Oh well.  Undecided

On the other hand, if you didn't sell those bitcoins, you would have developed a debilitating heroin addiction and eventually died from an overdose.

So be happy you are alive and move on.
4163  Other / Meta / Re: BitcoinTalk Emails HACKED on: May 10, 2017, 12:16:11 AM
The user database was leaked 2 years ago.
4164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2017-05-05]Wikitribune - Competitor or Copycat? on: May 05, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
No mention of Bitcoin anywhere in the article.
4165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning Bitcoins on: May 05, 2017, 05:39:02 PM
Option 1: Earn $2 (worth 0.00125 BTC) per hour at a real job. Use the money to buy bitcoins.
Option 2: Earn 0.0000125 BTC (worth $0.02) per hour doing faucets or spamming the forums.

Why is there even a question?
4166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is diversity in bitcoin client implementations a good or a bad thing? on: May 03, 2017, 05:19:43 PM
If one implementation goes down or has a bug, then only the users of that implementation are affected.

This is true for many things but not for consensus systems.

In a consensus system with multiple major implementations if _any_ implementation has an issue everyone has an issue-- and if there is just a "disagreement" but none are objectively wrong, then there is still an issue.

When Bitcoin.com mined a 1+ MB block because of a bug in their code, who was affected? When people found and exploited bugs in the BU client, who were affected?

You wrote, "in a consensus system with multiple major implementations, ..." My ideal is a consensus system without multiple major implementations. As I wrote earlier, there are 83 different implementation being used right now and yet Bitcoin is humming along. The real problem is that a few of them dominate the rest, and a person striving to make Bitcoin more robust would be working to eliminate the dominance of any particular implementation because that implementation is a point of failure.

The reason for this is that for a consensus system the primary purpose is to be consistent, so any inconsistency is a failure, regardless of whom is "right" vs "wrong" or even an otherwise harmless difference.  Inconsistency immediately creates an opportunity for funds theft, when you think a state is final but it really isn't and it gets reversed.

An implementation is a _precise_ definition.  A pile of paper is not, or to the extent that it is precise it's still not that relevant: if paper says X and the network does Y, then Y it is, you can't generally just undo Y later without undoing transactions that people thought were final and irreversible.  Good specs are useful to aid understanding and analysis, but cannot define the network because they cannot control its action from moment to moment.

It is true that an implementation is a precise definition, but is such a precise definition necessary? You write as if Bitcoin does not have a mechanism for resolving disputes between nodes, but it does of course.
4167  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is diversity in bitcoin client implementations a good or a bad thing? on: May 02, 2017, 08:17:00 PM
Multiple implementations are necessary. If one implementation goes down or has a bug, then only the users of that implementation are affected. If there are many implementations then the effect of one implementation having a problem is minimal.

The fact is that there are already many implementations currently running. This site (https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/) lists 83 different implementations that are currently in use. Unfortunately, they are mostly versions of Bitcoin Core, so they all tend to have the same flaws.

Also, there is an important flaw in the single implementation argument. Whenever the single implementation is updated, a new implementation that could create an accidental fork is published. You can't avoid accidental forks by using a single implementation if you want to upgrade it. In fact, there already has been an accidental fork caused by a Bitcoin Core update.
4168  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Cap Vesta - Capvesta.com on: May 02, 2017, 04:26:20 PM
It's a scam. Why are you promoting this crap?
4169  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bubbles Can Be Good - Using Bitcoin's 2011 Bubble on: May 02, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
Bubbles are bad because the resources that a bubble wastes dwarf whatever benefits you may find.
4170  Economy / Economics / Re: what would if you were to destroy every bitcoin mining operation in the world? on: May 01, 2017, 06:35:42 PM
Mining is an integral part of Bitcoin. If you destroy mining, you destroy Bitcoin.
What if we are able to destroy corporate mining of bitcoins,can we shift back to the old GPU mining and be able to help with the transactions.I am certain that there will be a point in time in the future that mass mining farms will close down because of the running cost and the ROI factors taking into consideration.

It is a naive fantasy. Even if we could change the POW algorithm to be GPU-only, we would still get this:


4171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TECHNICAL PROBLEM WITH A WALLET on: April 30, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
You are posting on the wrong site. This is Bitcoin, you want to post on http://digitalnotetalk.org/.
4172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining build, need some HELP! on: April 30, 2017, 08:39:05 PM
I hope you don't plan on mining Bitcoin with your GPUs.
4173  Other / Off-topic / Re: teaching a 14y/o teenager about Bitcoin on: April 30, 2017, 08:37:20 PM
Mining is an advanced topic. Newbies should have a good understanding of everything else before tackling the details of mining.
4174  Economy / Economics / Re: what would if you were to destroy every bitcoin mining operation in the world? on: April 30, 2017, 08:34:17 PM
Mining is an integral part of Bitcoin. If you destroy mining, you destroy Bitcoin.
4175  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the long term outlook for bitcoin price, for 2020 and beyond? on: April 30, 2017, 08:33:00 PM
TO THE MOON!

or

CRASH!

Pick one.

4176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When exactly is the time in a block updated? on: April 30, 2017, 07:39:35 AM
The timestamp may or may not be accurate. It is up to the miner. There is no requirement regarding the time stamp except that it must be within 1 or 2 hours of the actual time (actually it is a little more complicated than that). Miners may also use it to vary the hash.
4177  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I need help, I'm new here on: April 27, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
Hi, I'm still new with this site. Can someone give me a short briefing about how I can use and earn in this site. Also can I know how to get the payment. Do I still need to use PayPal or can I send it through Western Union? Thanks

Edit: Thank you all for responding. I'll start to build up my account now. Great help.

It is sad that people are joining this site just to make money by spamming the forums.
4178  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Price 1200 USD Means - Bitcoin Mining Is Profitable, Even For Beginners on: April 26, 2017, 06:23:59 AM
Bitcoin mining is always profitable if you have high tech equipment.

Absolutely false. Even with "high tech equipment", it is only profitable if the cost of electricity is low enough.
4179  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Possible to Mine Bitcoins Using Desktop? on: April 25, 2017, 07:01:40 PM
I would suggest cloudmining rather than desktop if you have enough funds...

Please don't suggest cloud mining. Most cloud mining sites are scams and the few that are not are not profitable investments.
4180  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-22] How Cashaa Exploits Bitcoin Price Differentials for Remittances on: April 24, 2017, 10:23:09 PM
Arbitrage is always more difficult, more risky, and less profitable than it seems. Cashaa may find that the cost and difficulty of converting to pounds (or dollars) and then getting their money out of India and Nigeria may account for the discrepancies in prices between those two countries and UK.
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