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421  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Gang uses crypto for illegal purposes on: November 28, 2020, 06:21:02 PM
Everything is a conspiracy against their country anyway,so wht makes this issue so different? Besides, cryptocurrency is basically intended for these purposes so it is to no surprise that you will see someone laundering their money. It is what they use the money that they won. Or if they've got the money through legal means. And a Gambling Gang? For reals?

Crypto currency developers have never set a goal to create cryptocurrencies for criminals. You don't speak correctly. Crypto currencies were created so that we were free from banks in making payments. So that we can do this anonymously.
If criminals use crypto currencies, it is not the fault of crypto currencies. Cash is also used by criminals, but no one accuses the state authorities that they created a currency for criminals.
422  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is live betting better than betting in advance? on: November 28, 2020, 05:43:38 PM
I am kind of person who bets before the game starts but not much often because it gives the real adrenaline while watching the game, if we are going to bet in between the game is live it is going to affect the game experience and also will make us more stressed and excited which can really bad for us if the result is not going into our side.

Besides, if the teams among which one is clearly stronger play, the coefficient during the match may only decrease. Therefore, to bet on such matches is worth only before the matches, although then the odds are also low.

If suddenly the favorite in the match starts losing 1:0 or 2:0, how much will the odds change? Has anyone ever watched such matches? Please share your impressions.
423  Local / Новички / Re: Раздача мерита нуждающимся/Есть задания l on: November 28, 2020, 04:42:46 PM
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Группа с баунти кампаниями менеджера

в оригинале это звучит как Bounty Support Group, то есть это группа тех.поддержки баунти, а в вашем переводе это получается группа, в которой перечислены баунти кампании менеджера.

Все поправил. Ну и буквоед же ты к запятым придираться  Grin

Что касается баунти группы.
Если дословно, то конечно следовало перевести как "Группа поддержки по кампании", однако я не поленился и посмотрел на ту группу, она принадлежит менеджеру и туда он публикует все свои кампании и соответственно можно задавать вопросы по ним. Поэтому правильно будет указать на это, вдруг кто захочет подписаться на нее с целью поучаствовать в других кампаниях этого менеджера.
424  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is live betting better than betting in advance? on: November 28, 2020, 04:30:18 PM
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What about you? Do you prefer live bets or not? Why?

I generally prefer not to make a live bet, because I usually only watch the matches of my favorite teams and I want to enjoy the game, not constantly look at the bookmaker's website and wait for the moment when you can bet with a good odds.
If I'm betting on my favorite teams I know, I do so long before the match.
425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Probability on: November 28, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
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5 % it's too high chance man

Are you laughing, Johnny? 5% is a high probability? Would you bet in a casino if there was only a 5% chance of winning?
Personally, I think 5% is a very small chance of winning that in poker that in any other game. I just had very bad luck that day.
426  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 28, 2020, 02:33:33 PM
You will not have real bitcoins in PayPal's wallet. You will have a digital copy of bitcoin that you will not have direct access to. You will not have a private key or seed phrase. All you will have is access to the PayPal account. In addition, PayPal currently sells Bitcoins only in the United States.
For the moment... but Dan Schulman said they will bring Bitcoin to Venmo soon and allow payment in Bitcoin to merchants. I don't know if this will be true bitcoins you can withdraw, but Paypal will offer that soon.

They have already offered to buy bitcoins to the US citizens. There is one drawback to this. You will buy bitcoins and they will be in your Paipal account. However, you will not have access to them with a private key. Only through Paipal's account. In this case, how will payment with such bitcoins be different from payment with fiat corrency?
427  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 27, 2020, 09:27:27 PM
I think more adoption can come since Electrum has integrated Lightning Network to its wallet. Nobody has really talked about it but it has been a huge step for Lightning Network adoption IMO. So once all bugs will be fixed, I'm sure many gambling platforms will decide to offer it.

You started talking about mistakes yourself. In fact, I tried a couple of times to send transactions via Electrum using LN. I use Electrum quite often, but with lightning nodes it was not so easy to do it the first time. I doubt that in a casino someone in high spirits from alcohol will want to pick at the phone and connect the node, as well as configure and conduct a transaction. This is not convenient and much longer than buying chips for cash.
Yes you are right, it's not really convenient and smooth but don't forget Paypal is coming and it will offer BTC payments from smartphones thanks to Venmo.
So it can be a solution for brick and mortar casinos.

You will not have real bitcoins in PayPal's wallet. You will have a digital copy of bitcoin that you will not have direct access to. You will not have a private key or seed phrase. All you will have is access to the PayPal account. In addition, PayPal currently sells Bitcoins only in the United States.
428  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 27, 2020, 09:07:48 PM
I think more adoption can come since Electrum has integrated Lightning Network to its wallet. Nobody has really talked about it but it has been a huge step for Lightning Network adoption IMO. So once all bugs will be fixed, I'm sure many gambling platforms will decide to offer it.

You started talking about mistakes yourself. In fact, I tried a couple of times to send transactions via Electrum using LN. I use Electrum quite often, but with lightning nodes it was not so easy to do it the first time. I doubt that in a casino someone in high spirits from alcohol will want to pick at the phone and connect the node, as well as configure and conduct a transaction. This is not convenient and much longer than buying chips for cash.
429  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 27, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
As time passes, the usage areas of bitcoin will of course expand and grow. It is used in many areas of our lives, let's not think of it only for gambling games. If it attracts more and more attention, its usage areas will become more widespread.

Bitcoin have multipurpose use and using in gambling is just one of an option. As mass adoption keeps on happening, bitcoin would be more accepted to pay for goods and services and for casinos as well. Might be where already bitcoin is accepted widely in those counties, casinos as well can start accepting it.


As long as regular casinos do not see the potential profit in accepting bitcoins for payment, they will not change anything in the payment methods. Even in this topic, some people wrote that they would not want to pay with a bitcoin at a regular casino. Each person has its own reasons. However, all this is expressed in the fact that among the huge flow of customers of ordinary casinos, those who are willing to pay with a bitcoin is very little, it is good if you get a few percent.
In online gambling, many peoples agree to pay with bitcoins, because it is convenient and profitable, as well as confidential.
430  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Site Buys $100 Million of Bitcoin Every Month to Pay Players in BTC on: November 27, 2020, 03:24:42 PM
This situation reminds me of a legal loophole to buy bitcoins using a poker site. Perhaps there are very favorable conditions for the purchase of bitcoins, so people can place their deposit on the site, play a few games and request a deposit withdrawal in bitcoins. Didn't you think so?
Did you mean depositing using fiats? That will be also included in some companies gambling sites in which you will be able to purchase bitcoin with fiat but it will only be good for people that are not concerned with privacy. I still like to make use of p2p ways and also noncustodial exchanges for bitcoin purchase. But if you are not privacy concerned, using credit card that the gambling site support is good. But as for me I prefer to deposit into the site directly using bitcoin or altcoin like ethereum and litecoin.

What kind of privacy are you talking about? Most people in the crypto market pass KYC when investing in various projects or when trading on exchanges. So in this case, privacy is the last thing they care about. For them, a reliable platform for buying bitcoins is most likely important, and they found such a platform on a poker site.
431  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Site Buys $100 Million of Bitcoin Every Month to Pay Players in BTC on: November 27, 2020, 02:35:14 PM
This is something new,

https://www.techtelegraph.co.uk/poker-site-buys-100-million-of-bitcoin-every-month-to-pay-players-in-btc/

But I'm not surprised that gamblers are preferring btc as payout instead of fiat because of the rising price of bitcoin. I even watch one youtube channel about a women showing her win in a traditional base casino and she blurted out that his winnings are going into bitcoin. LMAO.


This situation reminds me of a legal loophole to buy bitcoins using a poker site. Perhaps there are very favorable conditions for the purchase of bitcoins, so people can place their deposit on the site, play a few games and request a deposit withdrawal in bitcoins. Didn't you think so?
432  Other / Off-topic / Re: Zlatan Ibrahimovic sueing EA due to using his image on FIFA21 on: November 27, 2020, 01:31:32 PM
I find if strange for a multi million dollars company like EA being not careful to digital rights laws.If they truly have not ask him for permission before publishing the game then it is in Zlatan right to sue them.I hope this is sorted out in the best of the ways.

As far as I know, Electronics Arts has a contract with FIFA, which allows them to use in their game real club names, league names, real cups, as well as player names and their images. I have not studied the subtleties on which the lawsuit of Zlatan Ibrahimovic is based. However, I doubt that the lawyers of such a large company would allow the illegal use of someone else's name and image.
433  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 27, 2020, 01:08:36 PM

Why pay with bitcoins in a place that is full of cameras? Why to be able to tie your bitcoin adress to your photo and you can identify the owner of the bitcoin  adress. Of course, if you agree to pass KYC on the stock exchanges or anywhere else, it is not a problem. But those people who want to be anonymous at the crypto market are unlikely to pay in an ordinary casino bitcoins.
If you are using Lightning Network it will be more complicated for them to track you, moreover you can use BTC tumblers to preserve your anonymity.

Of course, if you want to pay with bitcoin car you can go to any difficulties just to do it. However, put yourself in the place of an ordinary person. He goes to the casino to relax and have a rest. He is already mentally at the table or the slot machine and enjoys the game. And here at the cashier's desk someone makes him wait for his transaction to be confirmed by the network. People will choose the payment method that is more convenient.
For the interest of course I would try to buy chips for bitcoins. However, in the next few times I would buy the chips in the most convenient way for me.
434  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Player protection - stop loss limit on: November 27, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
I also believe that players will go to play on those sites where there are no restrictions. I am also surprised by those countries that impose restrictions on the maximum loss per person for gambling sites registered on their territory. After all, people will go to play on those sites that are outside the jurisdiction of their country. Casino profits and tax revenues will be reduced.

You are right. We have so many recommended crypto gambling sites that no restrictions, so we can play without any limit except ourselves' limitations to prevent the big loss. Somehow, if we have gambling limitations, we don't have to worry about losing because we will stop before our money runs out.

Besides playing gambling games outside their country's jurisdiction, they can also visit the online gambling games without any restriction or limitations at all. But the casino will still profit from the other gamblers, especially if they have so many members.

That's why I don't think it's reasonable to introduce any limits on losses at online casinos, because players will always be able to find casinos that don't have such limits.
Loss limits per day/week/month can only work in regular casinos. It is not difficult to circumvent such limits in online casinos.
435  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Probability on: November 27, 2020, 10:26:45 AM
You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
well I totally agree with what you say but it only works when you are gambling face to face and face to face with other players, but if everything is done online and cannot read facial expressions it will be difficult to know the expressions of other gamblers.

Of course, what I have told you only applies to games at the same table next to each other. If you play online, there is no point in controlling your emotions. It is enough for you not to show your cards when you win in cases where it is possible. Let your opponents guess whether you were bluffing or not.

That is really hard when you are facing these kinds of gamblers and only our last chance to win is to have luck. However, if you are very much experienced in poker, it is not really important. What we need for now is to apply what we have learned from the past, make use of our skills and strategies well. Maybe they are good at hiding their emotions but we are not sure as well if they are good enough in handling their cards in the hard scenario because that would be the last way to make win otherwise, we lose.

I have never played at the same table in offline tournaments so it is difficult for me to compare. However, I quite often play poker at the same table with my friends, these people know me for many many years. It seems to me that the hardest thing is to keep emotions with those people who know you well.
436  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Player protection - stop loss limit on: November 26, 2020, 11:56:18 PM
It will reflect to the business indeed as limiting the gmblers to play more will cut  the house profits, but due to reputations they'll
be able to gain more gamblers to visit their business.

Depends from how the owner will handle this kind of feature as for good marketing it will bring good impacts but profitable wise
it ain't going to bring good benefits.

I also believe that players will go to play on those sites where there are no restrictions. I am also surprised by those countries that impose restrictions on the maximum loss per person for gambling sites registered on their territory. After all, people will go to play on those sites that are outside the jurisdiction of their country. Casino profits and tax revenues will be reduced.
437  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Probability on: November 26, 2020, 11:43:11 PM
That facial expression tells something about his card that and sometimes I'll take that opportunity but if we are facing professional gamblers, you can just see them in calm. And it finds also that reading those emotions and facial expressions can't help you to win, what we need is to have luck.
Well, those skills had something to help since not all the times you will have a winning card.

You should keep in mind that experienced players are able to keep calm when playing poker and it is difficult to guess anything from their face. Besides, I think everyone knows how to make a happy face when you have bad cards in your hand. This is one of the stages of bluffing.
In any case, if players often play together, they can notice some features of the opponent's behavior, which help to guess which cards are in his hands.
438  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How long until we can bet with bitcoin in real life casinos? on: November 26, 2020, 10:41:33 PM
It will not take that long for sure especially to those casinos that freely accepts crypto currencies. Once the government of a certain landbase casino are not against in using crypto currencies then this will serve as a bridge for it to happen where we can enjoy using bitcoin or other crypto currencies in betting to a landbase casino.

Let's say that 2-5 years from now there will be few casinos that will announce this kind of news that they are already accepting bets in bitcoin to their landbase casinos.


Why pay with bitcoins in a place that is full of cameras? Why to be able to tie your bitcoin adress to your photo and you can identify the owner of the bitcoin  adress. Of course, if you agree to pass KYC on the stock exchanges or anywhere else, it is not a problem. But those people who want to be anonymous at the crypto market are unlikely to pay in an ordinary casino bitcoins.
439  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Probability on: November 26, 2020, 08:53:00 PM
Knowing these probabilities might be helpful to assess your exact chances of beating the opponent, however, I don't see much point in memorizing or copying them somewhere and keeping in sight during the game (maybe if you're a beginner). The thing is - if you're a regular player you realize all that intuitively. For instance, I never had a clue what's the probability of being dealt a pair or three of a kind, but it has always been obvious that the latter one is much cooler Cheesy

On the contrary, I think that some kind of dynamic probabilities may come in handy. I mean some kind of guides or calculators (even better) that would show you how the probabilities of holding a certain card will change depending on your decisions (especially useful when you decide whether or not to discard your cards, and if yes - which ones), because in this case, things might be less apparent. Sadly, I've never seen anything of the like.
It was not my intent in the first place, I posted it here because I want to see if there are other people that might be curious behind the math that is happening when they are playing poker. I do believe too that there isn't a need to analyze it on this level. I do not think that they will allow this table to show on games because anything that has numbers and percentages are eyebrow raising, does not matter if it helps or not, it will be a problem in game. They are using this probability calculator on poker games, especially the tournament ones for the viewers to see whether the player has the advantage or not.

I played poker the day before yesterday. On the River I got a Straight with a senior card of a jack which was on my hand. Above could turn out only a Flash provided that the opponent has 2 cards of one suit in a hand, but the chance of falling out of similar is extremely small. So I boldly pressed all-in. He answered. Guess what he had on his hand?
440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin price rise affect your gameplay? on: November 25, 2020, 05:43:15 PM
If you want to know where your money goes then you need to keep track of every single cent, this is why many people are always short on cash because they do not really know where their money is going, so even if you do not think that it is that beneficial to have records of how much money you have gambled over the years in fact I find it to be critical, most people that have spent too much money on the casinos prefer not to think about this because the truth will be too hurtful, but unless you face the truth then your behaviour is never going to change and you are going to keep losing too much money.

Some people are lazy to keep records of their expenses and it is their right. However, they do not realize that keeping records can significantly reduce their expenses, which means that people will have more money in their hands.
When a person is gambling, it is better to keep records in the currency in which the bets are made. Because if you put bets in bitcoin, and keep records in dollars, the statistics can be wrong because the bitcoin is constantly growing and then drops in price, which greatly affects th records. For example, you could lose 0.01 bitcoin today and you should have a loss on the day, but because of the increase in the price of a coin in dollars can be quite different result.
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