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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 19, 2013, 02:58:32 PM

If the noodle guy hasn't PM's me now addy which I told him to let night that's his fault, I can't pay bitcons into thin air.
The noodle guy told you 3 times "ADDRESS IN SIGNATURE"
4 times now
If it's so hard: 19QkqAza7BHFTuoz9N8UQkryP4E9jHo4N3


Grats for your 3000th post 'noodle guy'.   Grin
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 18, 2013, 09:11:07 PM
Block 250 has to return a 0 subsidy. Superblocks can not kick in to some future block number that gives people time to update the client.


Edit:  or maybe 250  has to be a 0 or a superblock chance,  have to find the original code to remember for sure.
423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 18, 2013, 08:57:18 PM


The thread is the only proof I will have that Vlad2vlad scammed me.
So please mods, don't delete it, or warn us before.


You do realize that your code as a fix for the live chain was more broken then the one you fixed?
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 18, 2013, 10:04:57 AM
There is another interesting thing with the forum bounty.  While it can be done, running a mail server can be a real pain.  You have people consonantly probing it that want to use it as a relay.  You have people that want to know why mail from misconfigured  servers does not get to them, or to the person behind the bad server.  You have ongoing server and support costs.  I would have done the bounty if the issue of where and how to host it was also solved or supported in some way.

Maybe a job for google's "mail for your own domain" service?

-MarkM-


I have doubts they would let me add a hook at the smtp level like I would want to.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Primecoin to reach 0.05 by the end of the month. on: July 18, 2013, 08:28:23 AM

Looking back into XPM: CPU mining is expensive in term of energy, GPU mining will make the kps (k primes per sec) way cheaper. That it. You can think that price will recover then, but be careful.

With this coin that is not it though.  The reward per block is cut the higher the difficultly.  So cheaper hashes, means higher difficulty and less coins produced.
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Tenebrix on: July 18, 2013, 07:53:25 AM
Yeah, use the daemon.

As I said this happened with DeVCoin too, we just disabled the gen=1 commands so people cannot turn on mining in the devcoin-qt since we (Unthinkingbit and I) didn't manage to track down what exactly it was that was doing it, other than it looked like some things we needed for doing what devcoin needs to do were not thread-safe, at least, it seems, not in the GUI.

We needed to use curl, or something anyway that would go out and get our lists of recipients for minted coins, so if not being able to mine with the -qt client was fallout from that too bad, its more important to do that key function of devcoin and anyone who does want to mine can use the daemon, which in any case probably uses less resources on the server and allows the server to be headless so for miners it is in any case generally better / more-appropriate anyway.


Curl is threadsafe,  qt at least as it used to be built on windows was not.  

http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2012/03/full-disclosure-bitcoin-qt-on-windows.html

So good chance these older forks still have that issue.

427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 18, 2013, 07:47:35 AM
Those are the people who need to be putting up bounties--the ones who have great ideas and are working on amazing things but who for whatever reason are unable or unwilling to communicate in writing what they are doing to the world at large.

This is actually a very good point... on the note of writing, I can help out as well. I'm not as technologically-minded in terms of Bitcoin/Cryptos in general, but if I can understand what's going on I can break it down into simpler methods for others to understand as well.

Actually this may show part of the culture shift going on with the project and especially the devtome part of it.   You think people doing work on other things should put up bounties.  However most of the stuff being done is open source,  with the people doing it giving away their time and expertise.  Now someone feels that was not enough, they should have to pay others to help them.  That is not how open source is supposed to work.

 I saw luckybit always saying how you can not blame the writers in earlier discussions.  I also saw someone go so far as to post their reply to an active discussion as a devtome article so they could get paid while participating in the discussion!!  This was when I had to take a break from things, as seeing things like that was just too frustrating.  In an OS project all members are supposed to help move towards the goals.    The concept of blaming or not blaming or not being able to blame a party would not even enter the discussion.   It is not meant to be, you do the task defined and only that and don't think about anything else.    I really think the culture is shifting and am not sure what it will become.



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@twobits -- this is an issue I have as well... bounties are based on the "first," rather than the best. I think bounties should work like anything else; you are paying for quality. Anyone can toss up a crappy forum that meets the requirements needed for the forum bounty. It takes more skill to get one together that is set up properly, works like everyone wants and is seen as being usable by everyone.

There is another interesting thing with the forum bounty.  While it can be done, running a mail server can be a real pain.  You have people consonantly probing it that want to use it as a relay.  You have people that want to know why mail from misconfigured  servers does not get to them, or to the person behind the bad server.  You have ongoing server and support costs.  I would have done the bounty if the issue of where and how to host it was also solved or supported in some way.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 18, 2013, 07:28:00 AM

1.  A web based online wallet for DVC that has everything Coinbase has including the ability to buy/sell into dollars by direct linking to your regular fiat bank account.  What Coinbase does for BTC is give it liquidity.  I can buy or sell my BTC without having to go through an exchange.  Obviously not good for making lots of trades, but for what a normal person (who isn't a currency trader) needs it's more than adequate.  That kind of liquidity adds value to a currency and would do wonders for DVC if it had a Coinbase.  Maybe those here writing letters to people should ask the good people at CoinBase to consider developing a wallet for DVC.  They are a pretty responsive lot.

I have very mixed feelings about web wallets in general.   They remove a lot of the purpose of the distributed blockchain.  It also benefits the network to have people running the blockchain verifying software.  However,  if people want to have and use web wallets,  then someone should make them available.  I do know that I prefer to see DVC kept as far away from direct fiat exchange as possible. I would prefer to see more coin2coin only exchanges like mcxnow.

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is rock solid (last I checked anyway).  However, the stock itself is overvalued--sells for 2 to 3 times as much as it should compared to the equivalent on BTCT.co, so it's limited in terms of how much you can buy into it, and at some point it's

This is not true.  Aside from which , how do you pick which side of an arbitrage is the undervalued or overvalued side, the price has been more in line of a 33% variance for the actual  average price. Unfortunately the graph only shows peaks, which a one share sale can effect too much.  A few shares have gone at high prices, and the sell side of the order book of course shows that type of price.  However no one is filling them at those prices in general and buy orders get filled for much less then that. 


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Someone else mentioned this but I'll reiterate--a marketplace for DVC would be helpful.  If I can buy some of what I need and pay for it with DVC, even gift cards to places I like to shop, then that would definitely make my DVC more valuable.  

This would be good.... a bitmit like site for devcoins.
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: July 18, 2013, 06:53:09 AM
Today I am in a bad mood. Sorry I will be a little bit rude and direct to the point, but....
In this forum many are worried about the low price of DVC. My opinion?
A coin like DVC, claiming to be for developers, it is not able to have good developers at its disposal.
Sorry for the comparison, but I just typed the word worldcoin: the first result is a complete, nice website.
I tried to type devcoin: the first website coming out is 1 page website, very elementary website. People need more to be convinced to put their money on it.
Secondly, it could be nice to have constant selling of DVC on websites like ebay: i knew of dvc on it, not on devtome.com.

Selling DVC on eBay is a fast way to get your eBay and Paypal accounts banned and frozen.

I agree that we need a nice website though... even the pump-n-dump coins have good sites. And the client needs a workover as well, Sad.

I think the website is another case of the downside of bounties.  A few people expressed interest in doing or helping with one, but what got put up was the first thing someone with access to the domain could rush up.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 18, 2013, 06:46:16 AM
So I'm curious.  How many can you sell for 1 BTC?  I'm not selling, I'm waiting for the it payday. Wait until the Vlad golden blocks kick in, God willing people will love this coin.

Why is it so hard to fix those blocks?  Isn't there a real programmer here that can fix that?  50,000 NUGs bounty.  It's on an exchange, its nice.  And the work is done, its just a big that has to be found and figured out.

The bug has already been found and figured out but people continued on past block 250 already so unless the chain is re-started they are going to have to kick in later than block 251, in fact later than some future block number that will give people plenty of tiem to upgrade their clients to be ready for it.

-MarkM-


Yep,  it needs to be cleaned up a bit.  A block number picked for the fork, and logic added to use that block number.  Then it needs to be committed to the repo, tagged, and binaries built for the masses.  So who has access to the repo?

431  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin basics in Perl on: July 16, 2013, 05:01:40 PM

What I have bookmarked for perl is https://github.com/grondilu/libbitcoin-perl , see also  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54997.msg654492#msg654492


It probably would get more attention if it was on CPAN.
432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 11:40:47 PM
There's thousands of posts on 4 different devcoin threads.


Yes, though most of the posts and almost all of the bounties are still in the one original super long thread, of which I have post #4.    I have been watching devcoin and it's bounties for longer then you have.  I also am aware of the scope of work of most of the programming projects they have had bounties for.    I have never seen anything like you are claiming to have seen.

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Point to me lying about anything and then you can doubt me or go search all those threads.

I can doubt you as I too have read the devcoin threads and seen the bounties.   You either are misunderstanding the scope/effort the bounty took, or the real reason it got done.   In order for me to understand which I need to know what bounty you consider to have been done like you claim.


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Besides that, you will not find a single lie from me over the last 3 months.  So believe what you want but I'm not digging through thousands of posts to prove anything.  This is open source, I find it easy to believe programmers take on projects for peanuts but not so much for the money but to help out a coin which they probably accumulated.

I am doing more then believing what I want...   I read the devcoin threads and bounties and have never seen one that took two days of work for 200k coins.  I have never seen one even  anywhere near as lowball as your $20 to set up a pool and then own 50% of the take.  Since you say you know of these, you should be able to find them easily without needing to dig using the search and we can see if I missed them, or you misunderstand the scope.


Right, a lot of the stuff done for low prices, would really have gotten done anyway.   The bounty just gave the final motivation, or a fun little bonus.  I know I usually lose money every time I take time out to work on coin code.


433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 11:08:19 PM

I don't think you have.   If so can you link to it?   I have yet to see a devcoin bounty that wanted a percentage ownership.  In this case,   the cost of setting up a pool is usually not even front loaded.   The main costs are the ongoing server and support costs.   To expect to buy into that for 50% for $20 for half the profit looks both greedy and insulting.  Anyone who is going to incur those costs, is not going to take you up on your offer, and it makes you look bad offering it.  Better to have offered nothing, then a stake grab like that.   To then call it a hefty fee just adds to the insult.

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I gave away my 2.2 million coins to r3 to use to bounties how exactly am I suppose to make money off a coin I paid to launch.  It's this kind of BS that pisses me off.

You are still in the learning stage of these coins it seems.  Most people do seem to pay to learn, not make money off of it.


I have 2 dell servers I can donate for the pool.


And I have I have no idea about a lot of this stuff, I thought a pool was basically setting up a website which is a 2 day job.  So don't be so quick to insult maybe ask a few questions.  And I didn't say people doing serious coding for 200,000 devcoin wanted a cut, I was talking about the days of labor for basically nothing in pay.  

You thought that post was insulting?  It said what you just said, that you are learning, and have no idea about a lot of this stuff.    I don't have any questions at the moment to ask.  I think I understood things well enough.

Again, can you link to some specifics where someone did days of work for 200K dvc?
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 11:02:59 PM
 And soon the Golden Block will get hit as its randomly every 2 hours and so its overdue, it should hit any minute.

It is not overdue.  It will not happen.  Until a forked client gets released.
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 10:47:46 PM
I don't get how many you're OK to send me, but that's fine either way. Address in signature, thanks.

By the way, the post in which I ask where is the flaw in my code is an answer to a post of DeathAndTaxes where he said he found one. Which he deleted.

The flaw in your code is it fixes an issue that is too late to fix,  the original code you made the fix from worked just as well being as that we are past that block.  Actually it worked better, as your code creates a fork for sure, what they posted only may.

436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 10:42:42 PM

As for the bounties, since I've been here I've seen real programmers take on serious tasks for lame 200,000 devcoins.  It was peanuts so naturally I thought .2 BTC was a good amount.  And if I pay to help get a pool off the ground of course i want half.

I don't think you have.   If so can you link to it?   I have yet to see a devcoin bounty that wanted a percentage ownership.  In this case,   the cost of setting up a pool is usually not even front loaded.   The main costs are the ongoing server and support costs.   To expect to buy into that for 50% for $20 for half the profit looks both greedy and insulting.  Anyone who is going to incur those costs, is not going to take you up on your offer, and it makes you look bad offering it.  Better to have offered nothing, then a stake grab like that.   To then call it a hefty fee just adds to the insult.

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I gave away my 2.2 million coins to r3 to use to bounties how exactly am I suppose to make money off a coin I paid to launch.  It's this kind of BS that pisses me off.

You are still in the learning stage of these coins it seems.  Most people do seem to pay to learn, not make money off of it.
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's Official Coin LAUNCH - NUGGETS (NUGs) on: July 15, 2013, 10:37:02 PM
The code is just above: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=256460.msg2737311#msg2737311
This makes block 250 with a reward of 49NUG, as planned.
It's also easier to understand IMO.

Thing is, it is too late to do that now.   This code would only work if it was in at launch.
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 14, 2013, 11:03:50 AM
I don't think debut of gpu miner would immediately cause 1000x mining power increase, so probably not gonna be anywhere near this dramatic.

Do you plan to include gmp optimiztions to primecoind miner?

I will be testing mikaelh's optimization tomorrow.

I know I for one would prefer that gpled and lgpled requirments stay out of primecoind, maybe these this type of change belongs in a standalone miner, or maybe used libfastmath?
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] [FASTER!] Mining PrimeCoin using DigitalOcean (VPS) on: July 11, 2013, 06:02:38 AM
Yeah, it worked with 5.1. Thanks.
But my second droplet, 5.3 is ok, after that makefile failed. Don't know why >"<

Me neither, but glad its working now!

Anyone care to post their pps? I'm getting around 150 on the smalls and 1500 on the 8-core.

EDIT: I should mention you will end up charging your card sooner if you use a larger instance.

I am seeing like 75-100 on the smalls and 700 on the 4cores.  What datacenter are you in?
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] [FASTER!] Mining PrimeCoin using DigitalOcean (VPS) on: July 11, 2013, 05:59:42 AM
FYI, we discussed how to build it yourself and transfer it to your other instances. Using someone else's build is a bit reckless.

Perhaps, though probably not so much in a VM.   Also, thousands have downloaded my builds for the various coins over the years.  So I am not unknown for my builds.  Right now pretty much anyone that downloads a  devcoin buld  is running my builds, as it anyone running a downloaded osx nmc or ixcoin build.   And, well he did request it.  I usually only upload windows and mac builds unless I see a request.
 
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