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421  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-11] MicroStrategy Adopts Bitcoin as Primary Treasury Reserve Asset on: August 14, 2020, 02:32:06 PM
The problem with online gambling pre Tor etc, was the centralized domain name system where domain names could be seized and the owners arrested if used improperly. That is the reason that casino.com and gamble.com were sold in 1997 and to whom they were sold.

this

the story of the internet was always a story of the freedom of expression and the freedom to innovate mutually reinforcing one another (and I may venture to make a similarly bold prediction as this Saylor character), and always will be


422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exactly 10 years ago Someone did a transfer of 184M BTC on: August 14, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
capable of using an exploit to improve the effective hashrate of their products,

i don't think we can categorize ASIC boost as using an "exploit" since it is not harmful and from the numbers i saw the effectiveness gain wasn't as high as the reports circulating the social media.

well, yeah, but it's difficult to categorize it as anything much, I'm just trying to explain it without using any technical detail.

@Brewmaster is, I'm guessing, referring to the fact that ASIC boost is still being used, but in the publicly noticible form, not the secret way that was possible (and which Antminer coughed to putting in their firmware) until segregated witness was activated for Bitcoin (which happened 3 years ago)

ASIC boost is really just a mining hardware optimization that didn't depend on any bug or design vulnerability in Bitcoin, or on the hashing algo Bitcoin mining uses
423  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exactly 10 years ago Someone did a transfer of 184M BTC on: August 14, 2020, 12:04:22 PM
could there ever be a way that someone else is using the network to benefit his own needs while exploiting some bug in the network we cant even see?

yes (well, kinda), and it happened more recently


the Antminer company (who develop and sell mining ASICs for cryptocurrencies) admitted that they had been producing mining machines that were capable of using an exploit to improve the effective hashrate of their products, they had been keeping it secret, but the introduction of a new type of bitcoin transaction called 'segregated witness' somehow forced the fact into public knowledge (something to do with a patent dispute iirc)

Antminer claimed to have created the firmware "just for fun", but some people doubt this, as it provided double-digit % increases in effective hashrate to their miners (but not 1000's of %, which you appear to be scared about)
424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Germany Continues Shutting All Unlicensed Bitcoin ATMs on: August 14, 2020, 10:41:32 AM
1. this is somewhat old news
2. unlicensed operators in Germany are just putting their machines in new locations instead (and changing the company name/branding)

Germany is indeed a big market for ATMs, so it makes it quite easy for the machines to hide amongst the crowd Smiley
425  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting CoinDesk about "Dirty" Gold and "Dirty" Bitcoin on: August 14, 2020, 09:50:46 AM
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virgin coins

no no no

Coinswap

Anyone trading whitelisted BTC would be quite crazy if they didn't use Coinswap to take advantage of the extra liquidity they can bring to the market (LBMA scheme is woefully illiquid, they claim 5% of the world's gold supply is in the system, and that's clearly their marketing figure, the real number is likely lower)


And so the system would really just become a huge swapping service between clean and dirty coins, all hidden behind the faux-virtue and Bitcoin transaction scripts Smiley
426  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-13] What Bitcoin Can Learn From Gold About Staying ‘Clean’ on: August 14, 2020, 08:48:59 AM
This is essentially the "speculative asset vs money" argument


People consistently forget the unique properties Bitcoin has as money:

  • difficult to block/censor transactions
  • difficult to confiscate
  • transaction types will become increasingly indistinguishable from one another

...and so people (who want any of the above qualities) will always use Bitcoin as money (as they do now), regardless of the speculative asset properties


And because Bitcoin is still in the "speculative asset" bracket of consideration, whitelisting schemes can appear to be functioning, at least in the meanwhile and within that narrow framing


But if you forget that Bitcoin transactions are:

  • actually scripts
  • the types of scripts will proliferate in future

....then you can forget about the effectiveness of such schemes. It's highly likely that even without any new script operations being enabled in the code, that money can seamlessly transfer between the whitelisted pool of coins and the majority of the rest without the blockchain recording that it happened.
427  Other / Serious discussion / Re: A Sad Day for the Internet (Mozilla Layoffs) on: August 13, 2020, 12:52:45 PM
That is indeed sad news.

Mozilla's executive's salaries increased while Firefox's market share decreased. The management lost its vision. If you're contributing to open source, make sure you pay attention to what's happening, I have a feeling that this is only the beginning, and we'll look back at this as a pivotal moment in time.

This part is most interesting, and it's not the least of the criticism concerning Mozilla's management. I certainly got tired of all the pointless "simplification" of the UI, but am less critical of e.g. the changes to the plug-in API, which Mozilla were also criticized for publicly.

It's hard to see what positive outcome us regular web users can encourage, if the problems are coming from the top down, then the solution is typically lateral. But using this does not mean I will be using Chrome, certainly not
428  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Is the new Armory release that will work on Ubuntu 20.04 coming anytime soon? on: August 12, 2020, 10:48:17 AM
Is there something we can subscribe to, so we can understand when the new version is released?

hmmm, maybe you can get notifications about updates (or version tags) at github.com/goatpig/bitcoinarmory (you'd need to sign up to github I guess)


really, you're already asking in the right place: goatpig is the main dev for Armory, and this sub is where all the public discourse about Armory happens.
429  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segwit, and batching, a must in these times on: August 12, 2020, 08:13:20 AM
Segwit, I don't know either. Foaming at the mouth telling to switch but at least some stubborn exchanges have started. Even some really old services I see at least support withdrawal to native segwit now. Baby steps.

maybe the services which still don't support segwit are in favour of small blocks? it would be strange if not, as that's exactly what they can hope to achieve by not using segwit: smaller blocks
430  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitTorrent client and bitcoin blockchain submission idea! on: August 12, 2020, 07:28:49 AM
I think the best thing artists and producers can do, it put a donation address. In the long run, they are probably getting far more that way than spending money in system destined to be defeated anyway, or chasing people in countries their lawyers can't reach.

Crowdsourcing has also been a very interesting model for content creation, why depend on views/seats/sales when the whole thing could be paid in advance?

The issue is that the pay-per-physical-copy model was more profitable compared to the Crowdfunding model, artists (especially established artists) who, frankly, became quite wealthy in the pay-per-copy era aren't happy with the new deal. The moguls (i.e. the record companies & movie studios) are even more belligerent/desperate, as the writing is on the wall for them. Artists will always exist, but the moguls will not (their only talent is in controlling the product, and *ahem* the means of production).

What's needed is a way to maximize revenues, and I believe it's possible, but voluntary donations is not it.





Some kind of cryptographic mechanism can be devised, such that music/film fans must pay the price that the artists want for their work before the digital copy is made available.

That maybe sounds impossible, but there is (I believe) a way of doing just that.
431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segwit, and batching, a must in these times on: August 12, 2020, 06:05:19 AM
Fortunately 4x part only applies to signature part of the transaction, where you'd pay about 2x more for non-SegWit transaction.

yes, I oversimplified that. non-segwit signatures are 4x more expensive, but in a typical (1 input 2 outputs) transaction, the signature makes up less than half of the total actual size, and so it has less effect on the total weight of a transaction (only the signature's size is discounted for segwit transactions, as you say above).

4x cheaper segwit transactions are only possible for transactions with much bigger signatures (i.e. pay-to-script-hash, which in practice means multi signature addresses and other more complicated contracts), and only when compared to a non-segwit transaction with an equivalent P2SH script (i.e. the contract).
432  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: August 07, 2020, 06:59:25 PM
you know what the worst kind of software/network protocols are? the ones the focus on UX/front-end before the engineering problems.

You *can* do both you know. It's just requires money and time and some focus groups and some management that can keep the programmers going forward.
This is what people keep missing, how many INFERIOR products have come to market and been dominant because they were more user friendly and simpler to use then the better engineered ones?

examples are scant. usually high-end design software of various kinds are praised for their good UI's, then some management genius decides to either:

1. make that good UI the most expensive option, or
2. get rid of it completely, as if the users weren't good enough for it


but maybe I'm too cynical. tell me an example of a good UI, DaveF (I recommend against replying "macOS")
433  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: August 07, 2020, 03:24:55 PM
I believe the problem with open source projects is that the majority of problem-solvers are engineers, without input from front-end/UX designers. We then get a solution primarily from an engineering standpoint that doesn't look pretty, and/or it's not easy to use for ordinary users.

I have been saying that for years about many BTC related things.
Wallets, apps needed for processing for business, plugins for websites.
Don't get me wrong, they work. But the level of "fit and finish" leaves a lot to be desired.

well, you're both providing a pretty accurate description of the internet itself, circa 1992-97.

you know what the worst kind of software/network protocols are? the ones the focus on UX/front-end before the engineering problems. Your observations only prove that Bitcoin is being developed according to best practices, at least in this facet
434  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Segwit, and batching, a must in these times on: August 06, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
Let the users choose which businesses actually help the network, and which of their favorite services users should ask/petition to use Segwit, and batching.

I absolutely concur with this



With Segwit, everyone gets to express their preference according to what they believe is best, whether just individually or for the Bitcoin network overall.


Do you want:
  • Small blocks? don't use Segwit
  • Big blocks? use Segwit


But small blockers must pay 4x more for transactions that consume more weight in the blocks. Very nice compromise, IMO
435  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-04] Bloomberg: “Bitcoin Toward $20,000 in 2020" on: August 06, 2020, 09:08:16 AM
And this situation only intensifies with every new halving, meaning that the "supply" is less and less affected by the amount of coins mined during a previous day/week/month ...

Again, I'm not sure, whether I'm right or wrong. So, it's not trolling. If you can show that I'm wrong, I will accept it, and will be grateful to you for showing.

well, you've got the right idea, absolutely

I guess it depends on what you mean by "market supply", the miners coins may well not be hitting the exchanges in a way that affects the published price, but the miners are almost certainly selling a great deal of them outside of the exchanges (profit margins are slender in cryptocurrency mining, and operating costs are both high and payable in fiat). Although the marketplace for BTC (strictly speaking) includes OTC sales, it's just that these are private sales, not public.

It's quite likely that the BTC sold by miners therefore do not (at least in the instant where they are sold initially) affect the market price, but maybe this is what you are arguing, that the supply trading on exchanges is more static than is implied by the block subsidy halvings? Sounds like a bullish argument Grin
436  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-03] Hack Forces Travel Company to Pay USD 4.6m in Bitcoin Ransom on: August 05, 2020, 10:14:28 AM
Major travel management firm, but they don't bother make various backup (e.g. online and offline backup) regularly. If they do it, i'm sure the damage would be less to the point they don't bother paid the ransom.

right

there are a huge number of circumstances under which any company can lose access to it's data or to their computer system, internet attackers is only one such possibility. Regular data backups insure you against all types of data loss problems.

If your company has no usable backups when whatever catastrophe hits you, you are responsible for that.

This company sound like they're begging to go out of business; what sort of going concern can afford a 400 BTC ransom, but not a few hundred dollars/year for data backup? Sounds like a potential scam in fact, maybe they're intending to use some kind of insurance policy or bankruptcy/asset stripping scam to defraud someone. It's interesting that this is a travel company, an industry for which there is no immediate future. Getting out while minimizing losses by any means necessary may seem attractive to owners of travel/tour operators right now.
437  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-03] Hack Forces Travel Company to Pay USD 4.6m in Bitcoin Ransom on: August 05, 2020, 08:51:29 AM
Step 3 is assessing the damage and worst-case scenario
3a) If the problem can't be solved without paying the ransom, how much is the company going to lose?
3b) If the sum is exceeding the ransom by an order of 100 does it really matter if you're going to pay 4 million extra for nothing on top of the other 400?

then

step 4) Anonymous Someone takes the money, then reneges the deal, asking for more


do they go back to 3a) and 3b) after that happens?
438  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-03] Hack Forces Travel Company to Pay USD 4.6m in Bitcoin Ransom on: August 05, 2020, 08:31:26 AM
Step 1. Someone anonymous does something outrageously egregious to cause harm to you (or someone you) know/love
Step 2. Anonymous Someone asks you to give them something worth $10 million in return for undoing the bad thing


Q. Is step 3:

3a) Give them the $10 million. Why wouldn't you trust them?
3b) Give them nothing and take the hit. They've already proved they're total assholes
439  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Flooding in China effect on bitcoin on: August 05, 2020, 08:15:03 AM
I think the upcoming flood will be under control, so there will not have a big impact on the prices.

@theymos

Please consider implementing 1 (or both) of the following:

1. Extensive real-time Turing tests for newbies
2. Bitcoin Fidelity bonds for all users (forfeited upon consistent breaking of forum rules or failing the Turing test)


I have a suspicion that many new (and possibly old) users would not pass the Turing test, including this latest prodigious new user "OrganixProtocol"
440  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-06-04] Bloomberg: “Bitcoin Toward $20,000 in 2020" on: August 05, 2020, 08:07:15 AM
In other words, even if halving does affects the "supply", it does so to a very limited extent.
Cheesy please confirm in simple, unequivocable terms that you are trolling
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