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4201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 22, 2023, 10:02:20 AM
Inter has a big problem, and it is the coach who has little experience in leading a great team, and it is true that he has won 2 Italian Super Cups and 1 Italian Cup in 18 months but the results in the league are highly disappointing and he is also questioning access to next year's Champions League

If they continue to lose even the Champions League it can go very badly.
I don't understand Inter have a team that is worth a lot of money, on paper, but they never give back what they're worth.
In fact, I don't bet, neither on Inter nor on Lazio.


Inter is a well known team that make our bets and sport tickets losing ones  Grin.I don't know about Lazio but lately that I have bet on them I have always won and that is the reason they are now in the second place in the Serie A.As an Inter fan I also have never understood why they spend millions of euros and bring a lot of good players that in the end do not produce the desired results.They have for me the best players of all the Serie A and yet they have lost to Spezia and also failed to win over Sampdoria,some of the weaker teams of the Serie A.
4202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: March 22, 2023, 09:21:08 AM
It was a really interesting series of decisions by FIA but finally Alonso got his podium once again. He has been very consistent so far for two races as he finished in second position in both of them.

Alonso is just using full power of Aston Martin right now. Stroll is not going on as good as him I'm afraid. But Alonso is their main driver technically for successes. They must still be very satisfied with his results. It is really interesting to see Aston Martin faster than Mercedes and Ferrari both now. Alonso even competed with Perez for a short time period at least. This potential must be really scary for the other big teams now.
Third but you are right, he got podium back to back in both races. It looks like Stroll got some improvements to do considering Alonso is driving the same car and he is getting better results from it anyway, Stroll has absolutely no reason why he shouldn't be getting the podium or at least be right behind Alonso. Look at Max and Perez, they are so close to each other in both races, but for some reason Stroll can't do it.

Well we know the reason, Alonso is a much better driver even at 40+ years old whereas Stroll is a much worse driver, that's the main reason but they can't just make it this obvious and they need him to race better and get some podiums this year.

It is because of Alonso much more experience compared to Stroll,have you seen the overtake of Alonso to Hamilton in the first race,that as the commentator of the race in Sky Sports said,it has years in the making as a move.Stroll is a young driver relatively and has time to improve,he should learn from Alonso big experience.I think though that in this second race it was an error from the team that they called him early in the pits and he lost his position to both Ferraris before he had a problem with the engine and was told to stop the car.
4203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: March 22, 2023, 08:39:43 AM
Bayern Munich lost many points this season snd it's very clear that the actual situation is not because of the other teams strength, Bayern team is remind me of real Madrid strong in UCL but very weake in la Liga, but Bayern still have enough time to recover and start winning
In fact, Real Madrid is not weak, but only unlucky in several important matches that require it to get full points in La Liga, while Bayern Munich are only being chased by Dortmund when Bayern Munich do not get full points in the Bundesliga. But in the Champions League, I think these two teams will still be very strong and will show their strength to get into the semifinals and in the Bundesliga itself Bayern Munich also still has the chance to win again this season.

Bayern surprised us all in the lost game of this last weekend against Leverkussen.They should have won in order to have regained the title lead again.They didn't do so and this was one of the big surprise result of the weekend.This does not mean anything though as there is time and fight to see who will win the Bundesliga this year but Dortmund looks in a super awesome form having not lost here from more than 11-12 games and having only one draw in such games against Schalke.

In Champions Bayern has a really strong game and it can be anyone game,it would not be a surprise result at all so this may further impact Bayern campaign for the title.
4204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 22, 2023, 08:15:07 AM
Arsenal is out of all the cup competitions this season except the Premier league title, which is very important to them. They have to do everything to maintain Their first position spot till the end of the season. Any mistake for them to drop points again, Arsenal will find it difficult to regain the first position from Manchester city.
Manchester city are playing in three cups and they are still eyeing the league title, and pep Guardiola men will fight to the end. He has the team to complete in these cups. Manchester city will face Liverpool next after the international break, I'm sure this game might end in a draw. Or Liverpool will win it. Because Liverpool are out of the champions league and they wants to maintain their champions league spot till the end. So it will be a tough game.
The English premier league is becoming more competitive because the top contenders are no longer giving up, rather they're buckling every area of their club. The gunners eliminated from all the competition, will give Mikel Arteta and the players to face the premier league title more seriously. There's higher probability for arsenal to lift the premier league title this season other than Manchester city who's also craving for the title. Pep Guardiola have alternatives targets to achieved this season but I think his ultimate goal is the champions league.

I think Arsenal is more favored from the calendar compared to City,not that City is less favored but because of City will be playing in the Champions League and they have one very difficult game against Bayern Munchen which can consume a lot of energy and this can become a burden for City as one more mistake in the Premier League and they are out of the title fight if Arsenal keeps winning.Nevertheless we could never know what will happen as the Premier League is very well known for heavy surprises so anything can happen until the end of the tournament.
4205  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: March 21, 2023, 06:16:14 PM
In retrospect, it does not seem like the high APY for FUN savings plus premium benefits on top of that was sustainable so like other yield generating crypto investments they needed to make adjustments.
25% fixed APY rate is indeed costly. They are also giving the BTC APY from their own pocket. At first they were using the mining service to pay the BTC interest to their users. But they have discontinued it a long time ago. Now they are giving all the benefits from their own pocket. It is reasonable to adjust those numbers to reduce their costs.

They have not the slightest problem I think being able to give people interest which is 0.0102% daily or something along those lines as long as they have a huge community of gamblers here as there are people who gamble more here in the hi-lo game than in bigger casinos.As long as people gamble in the site,then there is no problem for them to give the interest,and beside gambling they are also mining which is another service that they use to the benefit of the site.

I can agree that 25% APY for FUN tokens is indeed costly as people who lock a huge amount of FUN tokens get a lot of free additional FUN after one year which can immediately sold for Bitcoin in the site.
4206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My Kaspa Web Wallet was hacked on: March 21, 2023, 02:53:36 PM
The moment I saw Web I immediately said to myself why do people still keep using web wallets and not desktop software wallets which are a bit safer than web wallets.When you are using web wallets you leave your coins at the mercy of the third party who operates that web wallet no matter how trustworthy they are.I am sorry for your loss and that you have learned the hard way that using web wallets is never safe as you are not in control of anything as I said,you do not own your private keys and the third party of the web wallet have those for you.

You have fallen victim of phishing which is another problem with web wallets as you must be very careful when typing the url as many hackers use the technique called "typo squatting" by creating url similar to the original one of the web wallet in this case and they harvest any credentials of any victim that falls into this phishing scam.This is also avoided when you use desktop wallets as you don't need to go to any website,you just open your app and you only need to be extra careful the first time downloading the wallet,it must be from the original site,everything else is in your control then.
4207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: March 21, 2023, 11:59:24 AM
That doesn't mean that he was the reason for it, but it will not stop people from mocking him of course, just the situation itself is sort of funny already and that is why I would guess that there will be a ton of memes and videos mocking him in the end this season if they can't win the title. They still have the chance, but they just need to fight much harder.

Yes that's right the competition will be between the top 2 teams although Al Nasr is one point behind but I think their chances are still the same
Currently 27 points again up for grabs if one of them loses then the chance for title will be 50% anyway they can't miss a single point.



I think we all should know that Al Nassr which has Cristiano in them is clearly making a difference in this league which is low in quality compared to the other leagues where Cristiano has played so far,he choose to end his career here for a hefty reward in money and that was a nice move for him,as you cannot get 500 million Euros for 2 years when you are in the end of your career as a super star player.

Al Ittihad or any other team I doubt will have the consistency to win 9 games while I think Al Nassr can win all their games as long as they have Cristiano playing for them as this player clearly makes a huge difference in their games,a difference for the good of the team.
4208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: March 21, 2023, 11:34:33 AM
Neuer was never really fit to be the captain if you ask me, İlkay is a better player than Kimmich, but Kimmich is still in Germany whereas İlkay is in premier league. So this decision looks to be as good as it gets, I hope that he keeps the armband and he continues to be their captain for the future as well, it would really help them in the long run.

Doesn't mean that he will get to win anything at all, we could see him be the captain and the team still losing, Germany doesn't get better just because they switched their captain, that is not how football works. However, it is not something that could hurt neither so it should be a fine decision with no result changes.

A leader in a team can make important decisions at crucial moments, but the captain's armband doesn't always define a true leader. Neuer was a good captain, though lately he missed a lot, but he did not lose his self-confidence from this. By the way, is there any news, how is he doing, when will he be able to return to the game? He will still need time to recover and return to his optimal playing shape, all this will take a lot of time.

I would worry more about the team of Germany in general as they have been screwing it up since 2014 and up until now,they are not finding that perfect balance that defined "NationalManschaft" that they could beat anyone in Europe and was one of the strongest team.I doubt anyone is afraid now of them seeing their latest performance in this last World Cup,the Euro which will be held at Germany can be an important factor for them,to reshape the team and start gaining that feeling of dominance lost from almost 10 years now,that is a huge time for Germany not managing to qualify further than the group stages in a World Cup.
4209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: March 21, 2023, 11:08:10 AM

I only got 1.5 this week. I'm practically bottom of the overall table as well. The only users below me are pretty much the ones that have just given up like Welsh  Grin. No idea what's going on this season but there's been a lot of crazy results.


I don't think we have had crazy results except a couple of weeks but this year most of the games have come as predicted and most probably these type of results do not favor those who go for bold draws or backing the underdogs,I remember you backing Brighton against Arsenal last pool or that before the last  Grin.That must be the reason you are so down as if you have put always the favorites,a route that I have tried this year you would probably have better results but since there are 22 places in prize spots,you have time to recover,who knows if the true crazy results start coming these last weeks of the tournament,after all this is Premier League.
4210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: March 21, 2023, 10:48:11 AM
It was a really interesting series of decisions by FIA but finally Alonso got his podium once again. He has been very consistent so far for two races as he finished in second position in both of them.

Alonso is just using full power of Aston Martin right now. Stroll is not going on as good as him I'm afraid. But Alonso is their main driver technically for successes. They must still be very satisfied with his results. It is really interesting to see Aston Martin faster than Mercedes and Ferrari both now. Alonso even competed with Perez for a short time period at least. This potential must be really scary for the other big teams now.

Alonso is happy for the moment as most likely he knows that is the maximum Aston Martin can do right now but I am sure that deep inside him he is waiting for package upgrades with whom who knows may be he can start fighting a fight with the Championship leaders,Redbull and we all as fans would love this.Right now the races have been very boring up until now with a total dominance of Redbull.Totto Wolf said that you will see dramatic changes to the Mercedes car after the race number 5 or 6 but I highly doubt they will be able to keep up with Redbull either while for Ferrari I can wrap up all in one sentence of Leclerc complaining on radio "It feels really bad being stuck such behind".So overall the F1 season so far is super boring.
4211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: March 21, 2023, 08:45:06 AM

Real Madrid will spend more focus on UEFA Champions League than Coppa del Rey. The El Classico is very last hope for them to catch Barcelona and they even did not win it but worse lost it. Hence La Liga is over for Real Madrid and they will have to bravely give it up and focus resources for Champions League.

Chelsea are not too hard for Real Madrid to win in quarter final and after that they will aim at last three matches in Champions League. I am sure players like Modric, Kroos, Benzema actually want to end their career in Real Madrid with one more Champions League trophy which will secure their positions in Hall of Fame of the club.


if you think about it, the reasoning is right
as I always say, the Champions League brings a lot of cash, oxygen for teams like Real Madrid, so it was obvious they would focus on that (a bit like they did last year!)
I approve of this mentality


Well it is not that they are intentionally focusing there,it is because they cannot do anything for La Liga anymore,the derby of last weekend forced them to do so after losing to Barcelona,now they are 9 points behind in La Liga so it is only natural for them to focus on the Champions League.

I know that it looks easy on paper for them the fight with Chelsea but they should not underestimate Chelsea and just remember the distant year,several years ago when Chelsea eliminated them and Chelsea was in even more bad form than they are actually now.
4212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: March 21, 2023, 07:36:05 AM
Kylian Mbappé has been appointed as the new captain of the French national team. I don’t really know how I feel about this appointment considering the fact that they’re other eligible candidates like Antoine Griezmann and Oliver Giroud who has been in the team for quiet a long time. But I also understand that its not just Coach’s decision. Players also have a voice on who should lead them. He has been phenomenal for France lately, but giving him the armband is too much even for him. I feel there  are other old and experience players in the team.

I think that he is the best player for France and it was thanks to him that France got to the penalties in the final against Argentina this last world cup as without him France would have probably not even a shot on goal on that game.Things have changed now and despite the old players being usually captains now there is a new trend which the captain usually becomes the best player of the team and I think France has made the right decision to appoint Mbappe as their captain.He surely is one of the most talented players in the world and he fully deserve this title despite his young age.
4213  Economy / Gambling / Re: What sort of Weekly & Monthly Bonuses do Bitcointalk members want? on: March 21, 2023, 07:11:17 AM
Maybe thinking like what you are experiencing because of a bad experience in the past that made you lose all your funds. In fact, you don't need to do this if the bonus you can get is not commensurate with what has been spent.
After all, bonuses are shown for those who are willing and interested in getting them even though they have to spend money first to get these bonuses.
Casinos provide bonuses with the aim of being able to attract more gamblers' attention so they are interested in playing there, but on the other hand casinos also don't want to experience losses from giving bonuses that are carried out, so they provide special requirements to continue to be able to benefit from giving these bonuses.
It is a good choice if you prefer to keep betting with your balance because that way it can give you more confidence and you will always control your finances when betting.

The key is if you have a good control with your bankroll, taking the bonuses and consider the wagering requirement might be possible to take if you know how to balance your gambling activities, there are people who can deal with this kind of challenge but if you will sum it up casino still have the upper hand as while you are trying to wager house edge is also killing you when playing much longer time frame.

casino always win , I know that there are some who can take against casino houses but we also knew that majority will take it from us, casino are created to take our money and we must admit that reality so better to accept that fact .

We can control our our bankroll but even how long or short we played yet the casino will win in the end .

That is only true if we keep playing games like slot machines,dice,plinko and other types of luck based games only.If we are patient enough,keep our control on our bankroll and play skill games like Poker or sport betting then we greatly extend our chances to make it and to win extra money from the casino,as in the first place this is why we register in a casino,to play and have fun but also to grow our balance.

I personally am trying to play little Litecoin on big parlays,a ticket in sport betting with 3-7 games and so far I have been successful overall as one win equal to more than 5-6 lost tickets,so we can have our chances is my point here.
4214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Top 3 Reasons Why Cytpocurrency Gambling is more Addictive than Fiat Gambling! on: March 20, 2023, 09:54:37 PM
It is not like everyone is going after crypto gambling but after COVID-19 the business of online gambling has increased more than offline gambling. Although fiat online gambling users are more than crypto ones, they tend to visit an offline casino after a few online sessions as they miss the atmosphere of an offline casino.

Whereas cryptocurrency casino users would always be loyal & habitual which makes them more addicted to gambling than a fiat gamblers. Below listed are the three reasons which I think make them more inclined.

1. Immediate gratification:

One explanation could be the immediate and continuous enjoyment that bitcoin gaming offers, whether you win or lose. A cryptocurrency can be swiftly converted into fiat currency or other cryptocurrencies, as opposed to traditional gambling, which typically calls for cash or chips, what I am referring to here is offline gambling. This feeling of immediate satisfaction can increase excitement and encourage players to keep playing.

2. Anonymity:

The amount of privacy gained by gambling with cryptocurrencies is unbelievable! Non-KYC platform, which is common may make some people feel more secure since they can offer a level of secrecy and security that more traditional forms of gambling cannot. This sense of anonymity may make it easier for individuals to engage in risky or addictive behaviors without fear of being judged or identified.

3. Thrill of volatility:

We are all aware of how unpredictable the cryptocurrency market is, with prices varying quickly and erratically. Some people may become addicted to the "high-risk, high-reward" mentality as a result of this volatility. Even though it may result in severe financial loss, they may get high from taking chances and placing large wagers.



Do you guys think my assessment is to the point or do you think there are more reasons related to cryptocurrency gambling addiction? Please go ahead and reply to this thread. If you have a valid point that I think is related to this thread then I would add it to this topic.


In FIAT casinos,the most well known ones like Bet365 and alike they have something in common,they limit your account if you win more than 3000-4000 EUR overall and not in just a single bet,they don't give a damn if you lose though as they let you lose as much as you can.In crypto casinos not only they don't limit your account for nothing like FIAT ones do but they do pay enormous amounts of money,much more than the FIAT ones do,for example I have seen payouts of over 350 Ethereums from a sport bet parlay that the bet was about 13 Ethereums,meaning the limits are much higher,so beside agreeing with everything you wrote,I would add these two.
4215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Champions League Pool ⚽️ Discussion Thread on: March 20, 2023, 09:34:14 PM
Hey Igebotz, I can't remember where I said it, but I was asking Chelski to please thump Real Madrid... and the bearers of destiny answered this call.

I'll back Chelsea here, both in betting and in predictions. Easy for me, right?

Also somewhat disappointed with the draws, but I do feel like it could have been a bit more exciting, some missed opportunities but it's all random, of course, right? Heh

yes, but be rest assured that whatever the outcome between Real - Chelsea, Bayern- Man city we are still going to have a shitty one sided final with these draws.


That being said, we are going to teach LiVARpool how to play Real Madrid; the last time we defeated them, we won the league, and the last time they defeated us, they also won the league; our record against Real Madrid is very good; we have the better head-to-head record; I'm not too confident going against them, but the last time we elimilated them, we were also struggling in the league and we did wonders.

Kante will be available and that gives some level of hope.

It is a long time that we don't have such shitty final that in turn could turn into a great one where the so called "under dog" can make the so called "heavy favorite" suffer a lot as the final is just one game and you never know how the game takes you with it,it can happen to any team to have problems,even the bigger ones that they cannot get themselves together in the beginning of the game and they may concede a goal.I know for sure though that Chelsea in Champions have won several years ago when they were not the favorite and they eliminated Real Madrid back then,I think they can do it again and yeah Chelsea will play much more calm than Real will do as no one expects anything from that at this stage.
4216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: March 20, 2023, 09:03:32 PM
Exactly I have the same analysis there is almost no way to displace Napoli from the top of the standings especially when Inter lost today
Napoli is 99% certain to secure the title this season and while fighting for the Champions League Napoli is a team that can go through these 2 competitions without a burden I mean they can share focus on each competition.
We can say Napoli is 100% to win Serie A title this season because no other teams have a chance to pass Napoli points. Napoli played consistently so far, they keep winning the matches. On the contrary, other teams played inconsistently and they too many missed points. This is a contradictory situation, so it is impossible for other teams to chase 19 point gap made by Napoli.

For UCL, Napoli surely has a chance to win it as well. But I think it is a bit difficult because they must fight with stronger teams from other leagues. They can focus on both competitions, but the chance to win in UCL looks smaller than Serie A.



Napoli is favored as they will face either Benfica or either Inter if they qualify against Milan which I think is something doable for them despite Milan having much more experience than them in Champions League as they have won it several times while Napoli has not that big of an experience in this competition.The form of both teams in Italy Serie A is totally different with Milan screwing it up and being in really bad run recently with a draw at home against Salernitana and a lost game this weekend against Udinese while Napoli is crushing every single team and the lost games that they had I think they just didn't care much as the points difference allows them to do what they like.
4217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why people promote gambling sites . on: March 20, 2023, 08:35:20 PM
As long as gambling sites pay you commission or offer you some sort of bonus and benefits then people will keep promoting gambling sites.Imagine someone being super at affiliate marketing and that he manages to bring 1000 people under his name in a casino where this casino pays let's say 10 to 25% commission of every bet of each active referrals this guy has brought to the casino.It means a great passive income to him and what better than to bring people that love gambling anyway to a new platform,so for people who are business minded the affiliate marketing and promotion of gambling sites will continue as long as this venture brings them net substantial profit.
4218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your Favorite Play’n Go Games and Experience on: March 20, 2023, 07:58:43 PM
I can tell you that Play'n Go is a well-known provider of online casino games, including slot machines, with a reputation for creating high-quality and engaging games. The high multiplier you achieved on Rise of Olympus is not uncommon for slot games, which frequently offer the possibility of large payouts and exciting gameplay experiences.
However, it should be noted that the outcome of slot games is determined by random chance and cannot be predicted. While you may have had a good time playing new Play'n Go slot games, it's important to remember to gamble responsibly and set limits for yourself.
I played these games numerous times, but I never received a large multiplier.
Maybe there are really some lucky gamblers who got the chance to create large multipliers through Play’n Go games but to be honest, even myself still find it hard to win here. But I still see myself playing most of the slot games because I see good chances here to experience huge profits, as long as I’m lucky enough. However, knowing that slot games are purely based on luck and chances, at least we should only gamble our spare money, that is to avoid regretting when you’re at loss.

They sure are.I envy that guy who won maximum prize on Stake at Green Knight,that x10.000 maximum win on 4 March 2023 and you can check there under Lucky Wins that guy is the one who hit the best prize from this game.I envy him because rarely Play n Go gives you the maximum win,they give you 1000-2000 or a bit more but they rarely go up to that limit,they are different compared to other providers like Pragmatic Play and No Limit City which gives their maximum prize of a slot machine more often but rarely you get x1000-2000 there,Play n Go gives you more often the x1000-2000 prize so they are unique in this.It is totally based on randomness and luck,there is no other parameter,but I have played Play n Go games from 2020 to 2023 now and never got the max win.
4219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: March 20, 2023, 02:15:02 PM
This Chelsea team is just not ready to make any changes in terms of play or even the line up, Potter is just responsible for all that's happening to the Blues at the moment, is as if he's clueless. I wonder how he's going to manage the team against Real Madrid that's not even happy with their current situation.
Well, let see if after this break if G.Potter can get the best of advice or he can go back and watch some of those matches he lost and then correct his errors. IMO I don't want Potter to be fired, let him learn how to manage a big club instead of running off the club.

Real Madrid showed signs of weakness in La Liga against Barcelona yesterday night and this can be a good wish for Chelsea,as Chelsea has won the Champions League when they were not at all favorites many years ago.For Potter and their behavior in Premier League,it surely needs to be improved and addressed but as I have said before if he is not sacked it means that the club management trusts him and they will be having him even for the next season,if he fails to bring result also during next season,then firing him is an inevitable thing.Chelsea needs to harmonize as they have a lot of players,they just need time nothing more.
4220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Why we are not seeing a native wallet for .. on: March 19, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Have you ever noticed that despite the silly move and decision made by Vitalik people still like Ethereum?

Yes, it's only miners that hate it because it can't be mined anymore. A bit of a reality check on the importance of mining to the success of a coin.
It's not as if all miners hate Ethereum, I am a ETH miner too and I switched to other coins when ETH changed their algorithm to Proof of Stake, I never hated Ethereum because of this, miners saw it coming as this news have been spreading over for the past years, so Ethereum devs did very well to have given enough time to miners.
You are right, not all ETH miners hate the decision made by Vitalik and for the record, the decision ought to be made a long time ago before the ETH2.0 was delayed.
Despite all the storyline behind ETH's switch to POS some miners won't like the decision because it's giving a taste of something they don't like.

I never said all. But miners were most affected so miners were most against it. The point was miners' inflated sense of importance and effect on the success of ETH.
There were threats/predictions it would crash and die without miners. Never happened.

Does not mean that it will not die.Name a PoS coin which had a great success.The reason why ETH is still popular is that there are a lot of people with a lot of such coin that they had from mining from many years and never sold it,they are now the ones who validate the transactions through PoS and once these guys get fed up with the empty promises of Butekin I am confident we will finally see the ETH demise,ETH was so popular just because of mining for most part,despite offering a platform where to build DeFi apps and alikes,now no one cares except these guys.
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