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441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: January 28, 2024, 10:44:36 PM
Winning in gambling increases the gambler's expectations, which makes buying expensive things a second thought. TV is an important thing for entertainment, I myself bought a smart TV when I got an unexpected big win. My main purpose of buying a smart TV was to watch sports as I was not comfortable watching sports on my small TV. So it seems to me that he bought the TV as thoughtfully as I did.

When winning big in gambling, it is important to invest that money properly, because there is a lot of risk involved, so anything can happen at any time. So a large part of the money won from gambling should be invested which will give good returns in future.
Actually there is nothing wrong with buying what we want after getting high profits from gambling, like you said that you want a smart TV with a wider screen for your comfort in watching sports compared to a small TV, we need to know that everyone has a goal for goods. who want it with full consideration and don't use money to buy expensive things that they don't need.

The decision to buy a dream item or invest both depends on the amount of funds and the priority scale according to each person, so no one needs to be blamed for the decision, because investment can also be prepared after the next gambling win.
442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many hours is the best time for a gambler to last while gambling? on: January 28, 2024, 10:33:09 PM
For me, it depends on my budget if I run out or still win, but the time I often spend gambling is 3 hours win or lose. There is nothing wrong if you gamble for a long time, 3 hours to 6 hours, as long as your budget can handle it and you don't gamble every day. The bad thing is that if you gamble every day and the time you spend is always 3 hours to 6 hours or more, that's not good, you have a high chance of becoming addicted to gambling if you gamble like that. You can easily run out of money. So it's possible that others are the same way once their budget is used up they will stop there too so it really depends on the budget how long you will last.
The main factor all depends on the budget allocated for gambling, if you win at some stage of gambling then the duration of your gambling will probably be more than 3 hours per day but actually we need other rules to limit gambling that if we win it reaches 50% of the total daily gambling budget then it is better for you to stop gambling to take profit and you can return to betting another day with the same gambling budget limit.
443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: January 28, 2024, 10:21:30 PM
Like you rightly said, there's no positivity in gambling addiction and that's we can't just justify it and advice people to allow themselves get addicted to gambling for any reason of whatsoever. In my years as a gambler, getting addicted to gambling have easily been the worst thing that can happen to any gambler and trying to point out any positivity in it is simply a way of telling gamblers to get addicted in gambling. It doesn't make sense and can never make sense. I will always say that if a gambler can't control his gambling activities, such person should have no business with gambling because he's very likely to ruin this life through gambling
You are right, there are no positive things from gambling addiction even though the OP tries to hide the many negative things from gambling addiction but unfortunately the facts of the causes of loss due to gambling addiction have been experienced by many people and other people try to explain effective experiences to avoid the addictive effects of gambling.

After I read the main thread, I assume that the explanation above does not lead to an addiction factor because he still has control within the limits of using money for betting, managing time for family and other things, so as long as you can control your emotions in gambling you can If you follow the rules for allocating time to your family, then you haven't actually reached the gambling addiction stage.
444  Other / Off-topic / Re: Know when to stop on: January 28, 2024, 10:08:27 PM
You need to learn from all those mistakes and use it as good reference while still playing or still betting,  without you realizing your greed will continue to push you for more deposit money eventhough you already suffering from a losing streak,  you need to have that set target  to stop either you are winning or you are losing  there should be a set limitation that you need to follow.

With that kind of set up,  chances that you will not going to overspend your money and more or less you will enjoy as you are not pressures to recover whatever you already lose when you first position your bets.
The most important solution to deal with greed must have a money limit for betting and a game limit, so as you explained that we need to regulate both in every gambling to avoid the initial symptoms of gambling addiction, these rules must be carried out consistently in every bet and never let greed take over your emotions.

We must know that gambling is only for entertainment and not for passive income purposes, so there is no reason to be greedy in gambling to chase wins until you reach a certain profit target, the important thing about gambling is only luck and not analysis, so never use more money than the rules just to find luck that is not guaranteed to be obtained.
445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 27, 2024, 10:57:25 PM
Obviously, if someone uses borrowed money to gamble, it is not a good behavior for him, but he will fall into the abyss of decline in life. Yes, that's right, don't expect too much money from gambling because gambling is not a way to make money but to spend money quickly. For people who are addicted, they clearly cannot control their thoughts and mentality when gambling, it could be that emotional feelings and greed take over them so they cannot use their common sense properly.
Returning to each person's personality, if there is 1 in 100 people who are able to control themselves in gambling then they will not experience anything bad from the effects of the risks of gambling, but I am sure they will not make gambling a form of it. work but only as entertainment for himself.
However, there are still gamblers who use loans to gamble because their mindset is dominated by greed and uncontrollable emotional control, so they only have one choice after losing at gambling, namely using borrowed funds to continue gambling. In my opinion, only gamblers who are financially rich can avoid loans but some gamblers with a middle economy still prioritize loans for gambling, although the loan amount varies but generally can be paid on the next winning bet, they do not apply for high loans, but maybe only for some low bets because they have not reached satisfaction when gambling but have experienced losses.
446  Economy / Economics / Re: Save while young better than wait on: January 27, 2024, 10:43:49 PM
We don' need to invest and saving at the same time. We can begin it with saving, then we invest the money when it already reaches certain amount of money. If we already have $500, we can invest the money with Bitcoin or other recommended investment. Saving should be just the way to collect the proper capital for our future investment.
I agree with this point, when we have saved every year or have reached a certain amount then we can convert savings into investing in bitcoin or gold because saving a lot of money in the bank will cause losses due to inflation and other things that have an impact on the low value of the currency, so don't make your savings cause losses but change your mindset to turn savings into an investment that has the potential to be profitable in the future.
447  Economy / Gambling / Re: The most trusted casinos on BTalk on: January 27, 2024, 10:28:32 PM
Most trusted casino sites in bitcoin forum that people have been using regularly and have never been scammed from there I will mention all those casino sites here hope you correct me if I am wrong

Stake.com
Sportsbet.io
Duelbits
Rollbit
Forturnjack
Freebitco.in
Roobet Etc.
Some of the casino list posts have been answered in previous posts, but I recommend your answer because all the casino lists have earned the trust and reputation of forum community gamblers, so don't ever choose another crypto casino that doesn't necessarily have fair gambling and good service if you haven't gotten it. The reputation of active gamblers in forum communities because some new casinos eventually prove not to provide satisfactory service and they will remind us never to use new casinos.
448  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you want to see in casino reviews? on: January 27, 2024, 10:14:47 PM
It is normal for all casinos to spend money on marketing to attract customers, and the gamblers reap the benefits. However, many times gamblers are misguided by the lure of bonuses, we have seen many such cases in the past, so both bonus and reputation should be considered while choosing a casino.
If we look for casino promos with high bonuses at new casino targets that have promo programs to increase new user participation, but we need to research the casino and never ignore the reputation of the casino before you gamble at a new casino, several cases of gamblers tell of disappointment in new casinos and we better not chase high promos but focus on fair casino trust and good service, I rarely use new casino services unless they have been active for up to 1 year and they have earned a reputation from active gamblers.
449  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: January 27, 2024, 05:25:33 PM
Melakukan riset dan analisa mandiri memang menjadi poin yang lebih utama ketimbang menyewa mentor ketika memperdalam pengetahuan seputar bitcoin. Karena seperti kata Agan @telolettOM di waktu sekarang sudah banyak platform yang sangat mumpuni untuk mencari informasi seputar bitcoin(Google dan YouTube). Jadi tidak usah repot-repot menyewa mentor,karena memang buang-buang uang,selain itu setahu saya di Indonesia masih sangat jarang mentor yang bisa di sewa untuk mengajarkan bitcoin secara Face to face. Jadi intinya lebih baik mandiri saja. Karena sebenarnya jika berniat hanya untuk menjadi investor ataupun pedagang bitcoin saja,rasanya tidak terlalu rumit-rumit banget untuk di pelajari secara mandiri. Mungkin jika ingin menjadi seorang penambang bitcoin,baru hal tersebut bisa dikatakan sangat sulit. Dan bisa lah menggunakan mentor untuk belajar.
Sebenarnya kita dapat memanfaatkan mesin pencarian google dan youtube untuk mencari semua informasi yang kita butuhkan mengenai kripto dari level pemula sampai expert, namun jika belajar secara mandiri membutuhkan waktu untuk mengetahui detail mengenai kripto karena kripto tidak tidak sebatas trading tapi mining, network chain, dan lain-lain, meskipun kita tekun ingin belajar tapi membutuhkan 6 bulan untuk mengetahui tingkat dasar dari salah satu bagian yang termasuk fungsi dari kripto. Tapi jika seseorang memiliki finansial yang cukup dapat mencari mentor yang tepat untuk membimbing penjelasan kripto secara detail sehingga progress pemahamannya lebih cepat dan dia dapat mengambil tindakan untuk investasi berdasarkan tingkat pemahaman yang telah di pelajari dari mentornya.

Namun, semua orang dapat menentukan untuk memilih mentor atau belajar mandiri tergantung pada kebutuhan masing-masing, tapi kita menuju satu tujuan untuk memahami lebih detail tentang kripto. Berikut saya list beberapa link tentang pemahaman kripto baik yang free atau berbayar.

- Binance Academy(Free)
- Coinmarketcap Learn/(Free)
- Indodax Academy (Free)
- Hud academy (-)
- Cryptonary (Paid)
- udemy(Paid)
450  Economy / Gambling / Re: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw on: January 26, 2024, 10:50:39 PM
The gambler who want to have the smooth withdrawal after the win need to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.The crypto currency based exchanges itself ask the traders to do the Kyc for the withdrawal.So the gamblers should do not consider it as an Oxford things,they need to do the kyc at the time of the registration of the gambling site.The gamblers mostly not like to share their kyc because of worry about the safety of their kyc.But the trusted gambling site never use to do that kyc for making money,only less bankroll gambling site will do the sale of the users kyc to the social network for making some dollars using the kyc data.
Make sure every gambler has a popular and trusted casino site and never use a random casino without reviewing its reputation and reading feedback from other users, usually popular casinos do not automatically ask for KYC for users unless the account has been detected with suspicious activity but some popular casinos also ask for KYC from the start to complete the main files after account registration, but we don't need to worry about providing KYC to trusted casinos because KYC data is not used for illegal activities and data trading, but never provide KYC to new casinos because there is a very risk that KYC data will sold for their profit.
451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you take time to read the terms and conditions of casinos before registering? on: January 26, 2024, 10:36:49 PM
Well, so be it. It is really just that there are people who are really that loving on reading up those pile of text just because they did really have in concern when it comes to the platforms that they are really that involving into but majority is really that someone whose really that doesnt care on reading up TOS and would really be just that playing immediately on the time that they would really be able to do so. It is really just that on someones preference on what they should gonna do. Thing here is that they should really be knowing on what they are really that doing and the risks involved
once they do missed out on trying out to read up those terms but usually they are really just that the same most of the time and this is why its not shocking that
people wont really be bothered on reading it up.
That's the reason the majority of gamblers skip reading the terms and conditions at each casino because all the terms are almost identical, but that doesn't mean we can skip reading the TOS because some casinos add new rules but we don't know about them so it can boomerang when we experience problems that violate those rules, So keep paying attention or reviewing each casino's terms and conditions before you register an account at that casino, at least you already know several factors that must be avoided so as not to experience TOS violation problems.

But rest assured that each casino has different terms and conditions and you will definitely read the TOS at each casino you will use to gamble, that's a simple trick so that anyone doesn't miss reading the TOS at online casinos.
452  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana cara mengubah bitcoin menjadi cash tanpa lewat crypto exchange indones on: January 26, 2024, 04:32:59 PM
Jangan pernah sama sekali menggunakan data orang lain untuk KYC di exchange yang kita gunakan apalagi melakukan deposit dan transaksi dalam jumlah besar, pernah kasus jual beli data saat ikut even new user saat ini bybit.  Pihak yang melakukan KYC bisa mengambil kembali akun yang di KYC meskipun email dan password bahkan 2FA ada pada pihak pertama yang membeli data untuk KYC.
Tim Bybit merespon pengguna asli dengan cara melakukan KYC ulang di sesuaikan dengan data di akun yang sudah di KYC terlebih dahulu, di posisi ini pihak yang beli data untuk verifikasi di Bybit akan kalah meskipun dia memiliki akses email, password bahkan 2FA sekalipun dibandingkan dengan pihak yang menjual jasa KYC.

Lebih baik gunakan data diri sendiri untuk exchange apalagi digunakan untuk transaksi sehari-hari baik itu trading, jual beli saldo usdt dan sebagainya karena sangat riskan menggunakan data KYC orang lain apalagi jika tiba2 akun kena kasus abnormal dan diminta KYC ulang.
Sebenarnya tidak ada alasan untuk menggunakan KYC orang lain pada akun kita karena semua akses kepemilikan akun bisa diklaim sepihak oleh pemilik KYC meskipun mereka tidak memiliki email dan 2FA, pihak exchange hanya memegang kunci pada pemilik KYC sebagai pengguna asli meskipuin mereka tidak memiliki akses apapun untuk login ke akun kita, jadi hindarilah menggunakan akun orang lain untuk verifikasi KYC karena semua kita memiliki KTP dan SIM untuk persyaratan utama untuk menyelesaikan KYC pada akun exchange.

Saya pernah mengalami verifikasi ulang untuk KYC pada akun bitmart karena terdeteksi IP berbeda pada setiap login akun, jika saya tidak bisa memberikan bukti KYC maka akun saya tidak bisa dipulikan dan WD tetap di blokir sampai verifikasi KYC dapat terselesaikan, tapi karena saya menggunakan KYC saya maka proses pemulihan akun tidak lebih dari 5 menit.
453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another question? Tell me your average amount per bet and your monthly income? on: January 26, 2024, 03:13:29 PM
Also, i think it is not necessary for the gamblers to keep track of the monthly income or profits because nothing is certain here. One day, one week or one month you can make a good profit while in the next you may have a considerable loss. It is not like that you start to make good money in one or two months from gambling and you start to believe that it will continue in the next following months. Gambling does not work that way and there is no way to know what will be the outcome of the gambling.
Unlike other businesses or even games, once you become skilled, you tend to earn more but in gambling, there is no such thing as experience.
The only think what matters in gambling is Luck.
Yes, gambling cannot be used as an analysis for calculating passive income every week, month or even yearly, but we can make a simple example for calculating the lowest profit which can be used as a guideline for targets achieved every month. This calculation will be useful in anticipating losses in gambling because we have regulated the use of finances in gambling and we will not use money higher than that for betting, but if we do not make calculations in gambling then we are gambling without financial limits so that we have the potential to experience higher losses than profits.
454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your state on mind if your son stole your money to gamble? on: January 26, 2024, 02:36:02 PM
Actually it is a point to find out what forced child to commit such action. Reason is simple, to prevent such action to be repeated. Without talking and investigation the problem, nothing good will come out. There can be various reasons why the kid has stolen money to gamble. From being afraid to ask money directly, to having financial issues. What if the kid is weak, afraid to tell parents he was bullied at school and now he owes money bullies. So he decided to gamble to earn them fast, give money to bullies and later silently return stolen money. What if the situation is like that. Then the problem is not in gambling, but in bullies and the kid have mental issues. And instead of punishing him, he needs to be helped.

That is why I root for talking, discussing, explaining, instead of banning, forbidding, punishing when we talk about parenting and education.
I agree with your argument that if a child has reached the age of 18+ and he no longer asks his parents for money to gamble, but financially he must be free from dependence on all costs from his parents if he wants to gamble, at least he must have his own income so that free from things without restrictions from anyone.

We are discussing the case of a child who has reached the initial stage of gambling addiction, then parents must carry out an investigation that led to his introduction to gambling and parents must remind him not to carry out the same action, unless he is of adult age and has income from his job, if he are still under the age of 18+ so they are still under parental supervision in all their daily activities. So even though he has won millions of dollars in bets, he will spend more than that if his gambling actions are allowed and not stopped immediately.
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are your expectations for the few weeks after the halving period? on: January 25, 2024, 10:59:08 PM
There is so much expectation about the bitcoin Halving, and it has even attracted many investors to bitcoins who want to be able to profit from bitcoins after the halving. What is expected to happen during the halving? It is expected for bitcoin to set a new All time high price. After the Halving, what do you think may happen? Do you think that the number of sellers will increase after the halving, sellers of bitcoins from people who want to cash out on the profit they have made? Or do you think there will be a reduction in interest of buying bitcoins because of it already very high value that new investors will know they cannot profit from anytime soon?
My expectation is not like that because right after the halving season ends, Bitcoin does not start a bull-run or touch its all-time high price. If we look at the price of bitcoin after the bitcoin halving season in the past years, we can see that the bitcoin halving season has a positive effect on the market almost a year after the end. So I don't have much expectation about Bitcoin price after Bitcoin halving period.
.It seems that bitcoin price movements after the halving will follow the same cycle as the previous halving period, because there are several indicators that are identical to several factors in the current market review, so there is hope that it could potentially reach ATH with the same market movement tactics as the last ATH, I also expect that ATH or high recovery will start after 1 year of halving period.
456  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the bull run begun ? on: January 22, 2024, 06:48:28 PM
Real Bull run will come after halving or not. we'll only find out after that. but I can tell you one thing for sure. we are not in the bull run yet. what we are now is called Bullish season. it could turn into a full bull run or change back to bearish or bear run.
The market situation has changed significantly after the $48k rise a few weeks and market conditions are really unpredictable because the market is easily corrected at the current $40k price, but however the market is still not the right time to enter the bullish season, we still have 3 months before the halving come and hopefully the market can return to a stable price of $45k.

but several analyzes suggest that market recovery will grow significantly in April or after the halving, so take advantage of the current market momentum to increase the value of your bitcoin assets with the DCA method, don't ignore the opportunity for diamonds to increase the value of bitcoin assets in your portfolio.
457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does it looks responsible as woman telling husband you gamble? on: January 22, 2024, 05:58:21 PM
you are one lucky person if you find a partner who can understand such balance concept. so long you know your boundaries when it comes to gambling, i guess, there's nothing to worry about. sometimes we need this facet of life to see the fun side of things. after all, we are all not work and stress in life. we can have our entertainment on the side as well. there's nothing wrong to experience the gambling side together. if you both know the consequences of what you are doing, i guess, you will be more careful when you are into this activity.
However, you need to know that if your financial condition is still stable then your partner will not have a problem with your activities in gambling, the balance of the relationship is still fine, but you must anticipate that our finances will not always be stable, so gambling will be the main factor that will be blamed if you experiencing financial problems even though you have gambled with strict rules does not result in financial losses.

The right solution is for you to be honest with your partner about the funds you use for gambling, so that your partner will not blame you if your financial condition worsens, because he already knows the history of the account you use for gambling deposits and he does not blame you for gambling. .
458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you blame someone for your gambling losses? on: January 22, 2024, 05:16:38 PM
We don't need to blame other people for the losses we experience from gambling. When we gamble, we already know that it will cause us to lose a certain amount of money and the more often we gamble, we can lose more money. We have to be responsible when playing gambling so we really have to have limits to prevent lots of losses. You can blame other people for forcing you to gamble, but that rarely happens because gambling depends on each person and there is no compulsion to gamble. So we have to be wise in responding to it and don't need to blame other people if we lose.
We often hear the words "your attitude, your responsibility" if we don't have principles then other people will control us and never blame them because you don't have an attitude of responsibility, so there is no reason to blame other people when we have lost funds in gambling even if someone urges us to place high bets on gambling, but if you don't follow other people's instructions then you will not lose gambling funds. So don't let other people regulate your bets, but you are the owner of the funds who can control the bets in gambling.
459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspects of online gambling on: January 22, 2024, 05:06:21 PM
I personally rarely socialize in online gambling, and I don't really pay attention to global chat. If you want to gamble and socialize, it's better to gamble physically with your friends or relatives who also have a hobby of gambling, rather than going to a physical gambling place, for In my opinion, they only interfere with concentration, causing us to lack focus in the game
The socialization aspect of online gambling is not necessary and I don't know why the OP explains the dialer tells every gambler to be active in chat, but we need a specific explanation about the kaisno site he is using because there are no rules that require users to be active in chat. I rarely monitor the chat unless the gambling system has an error then I will see complaints from other gamblers in the chat.

Even offline gambling does not require a social aspect to interact with other gamblers, but the social aspect is not an important factor in gambling because we have to focus on gambling.
460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: January 22, 2024, 04:46:27 PM
That happens to me when I become greedy, which I get a lot of the time, and it's what usually kills most of the profits I get instead of simply chilling throughout the day. Once you have those quick and easy wins, it could give you a boost of confidence to go for something aggressive like doubling up, and most of the time, it backfires to put you back to reality. It's okay to play the way you want as long as you can deal with the aftermath, and that's where most gamblers struggle, as these scenarios will continue to occur in most of your sessions.
There are 2 factors why someone wants to achieve the expected high winnings even though they are not ready to lose betting funds because their gambling scenario is controlled by greed. Firstly, as you mentioned, the previous high win has increased your confidence to increase the bet and you speculate that you will get the same win on the next bet. Second, every gambler will not stop gambling before the winning target can be achieved, say there are 3 high winning levels in gambling, so every gambler definitely wants to reach level 2 of the gambling winning level because level 1 including jackpot wins is difficult to get in every bet.

If you can handle both 2 factors it will be easy to control emotions in gambling, never target high profits but it is better to "take profit" on every win and you will have capital for gambling the next day.
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