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4761  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 14, 2018, 08:10:55 PM
 Flying Hellfish is my choice too, as I said earlier, I'll give a hand in the cleaning of the section.

I do support the suggestion the section to be restricted for be for newbies or maybe not to generate activity ( or require some level of merit to generate activity, a way to filter the shitposters) since it is not directly related to Bitcoin/Altcoin.

Same rules should apply also for the Off topic section.

You'll say that all the shitposters will flood the Bitcoin/Altcoin sections, yeah this is true, but there are more active users ( not shitposters)  and they can do more  reports. It can be more work but it will be more control ( and more work for the moderators)

4762  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos, why are you hoarding your sMerit? on: April 14, 2018, 03:34:32 PM
Hmm, I tested my account but the calculations are not correct,
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=iasenko

It says that I have at least 36 smerit but I actually have only 21.

I'll upload a screenshot for proof when I get to my PC Smiley


How can that be?

You have received 175 merit means you have 87 sMerit, of which you have spent 51.

I parse the new merits from here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent

It doesn't show WHO the merit is sent to, so I have to calculate that.  I hope there isn't a bug.  :/

I'll make a link to show each individual merit rating.

Well I do have only 154 merit check my profile, received 144 and 10 initial (I was member when merit came )

So I guess there is something wrong with the calculations.
When I get back to my PC I'll investigate it.

Quote
You have received a total of 154 merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have 22 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future

Edit: updated the two new merit.
4763  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos, why are you hoarding your sMerit? on: April 14, 2018, 10:05:36 AM
Hmm, I tested my account but the calculations are not correct,
http://dev.martinlawrence.ca/bpip/profile.aspx?p=iasenko

It says that I have at least 36 smerit but I actually have only 21.

I'll upload a screenshot for proof when I get to my PC Smiley
4764  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: One (1) Merit point to Rank-up Service, Jr. to Hero Members Are Welcome. on: April 13, 2018, 12:15:42 PM

I really don't know how to formulate the subject of my thread so the people can actually understand what kind of service I provide, because no one is reading the requirements to apply.
Come back again when you need 1 merit to RANK UP
4765  Other / Meta / Re: Merit Points for reporting post to moderator. on: April 12, 2018, 06:55:53 AM
This has been discussed before, here is the last discussion we had yesterday with LoyceV. If you search you can find a lot of info.

I have suggested it before, but in a 1 Merit per 100 reports (say >95% accurate) ratio. I don't think it's worth making 100 bad posts just to report them, when it's easier to just find 100 bad posts. And if someone reports 1000 posts, I don't mind him reaching Member status. Even if his own posts aren't that good, he'll have a positive net contribution to the forum after 1000 reports.

As I agree with you I see also weakness.
Let us take the ICO pumpers as an example, the bots are creating thousands of comments per day, I try to spare some time to browse and report some profiles in the ANN section,but there is just an disaster, well this is other topic.

As bots are created to post in the threads, seems to be easy to make a bot to report threads.
Here is an example of a report link >
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=3292413.27;msg=34433583
Well, you have some cool down time between reports for sure, but I don't think this will stop them as they can adjust the time between reports.
So you have two bots running, one spamming, other reporting. Then you have an extra income when doing the ico pumps from farming menit and selling accounts.

There is an option like captcha to be added for both posting and reporting, but many users already have trouble using it for login so it has to be locally integrated.

Of course there will be real people reporting too, so it's kind of put the shiposters to do some good work, but I don't know what will be the impact of reporting.

This I suggested back in the beginning when the merit was introduced, but as I analyze it a little further I saw a lot of possibilities to cheat the system so...

Here is one idea, merit points as a reward for reporting spam posts/accounts.
4766  Other / Meta / Re: Finally! 101 merit and 84 activity!! Celebration Post! My thoughts on merit. on: April 12, 2018, 05:05:42 AM
Good man, welcome to the club.
The system is working no matter what.
I started from 10 and here I am, looking forward to Sr. Member.
4767  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 11, 2018, 10:04:04 PM
I think theymos has to come with a bit more detailed description of his vision for this forum. I've read some pieces here and there, but now everyone has to make his own research to figure out what is right or wrong or against the forum ideology. Here is a brief preview :

The free and open discussions on this forum help individuals and the Bitcoin community achieve Truth. Everyone has some wisdom or knowledge to contribute to a discussion, and everyone who reads the discussion and gains that knowledge gets closer to the Truth. This is much more effective than having truth dictated by a handful of moderators or voted on by an electorate.
~snip~

I guess he has to put everything in one thread and update it with the time, like the requirements for the new forum software here. And this thread has to be pinned. It'll be inspiration for many newcomers and answer of the many questions raising every day.

From what I have read till now that the idea is to keep the freedom of speech no matter of where you are coming from, the language you speak and the colour of your skin or how rude you are as long as you don't do something illegal, which is also acceptable in a way / if you have no evidence of a real crime/ but not tolerated /like the scammers/.

I also whan to ask some simple questions in a hope to get some answers and find the logic behind them.

Why there is nothing done to prevent the bot activity here which is causing so much spam, ico pumping, account farming, etc.?

One simple puzzle solving options, like Binace have, for every post and report can have a huge impact on them. I know solving captcha is a problem for some users so it can be a local integration.

Why there is no confirmation email upon registration?
You can use whatever you want to register, even Bill Gates's address, so he cannot register with his email/ I know shitty example but still/ if he wants to.
This is also in the bot's favour.

I will gladly continue the fight against the spam but now the other side is winning with better equipment /bots/  against our bare handed spartan army  / time consuming human moderation/ despite of merit, it's a good weapon but still not enough.

Edited, added quote
4768  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Terminology on: April 11, 2018, 07:03:15 PM
My suggestion.

tl;dr - Too long; didn't read.
4769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: April 11, 2018, 06:39:16 PM
OHHH THX BRO! Smiley

Just a friendly advice, take away this personal text, you gonna get yourself in trouble, DTs are not happy with merit begging, so just be careful before you get into someone's radar.
4770  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Comprehensive guide to Bitcointalk. Newbie friendly + calculator and infographic on: April 11, 2018, 06:21:42 PM
Hmmmm....  Huh

So, if I get 1 merit + 1 merit then I have 1 sMerit in total?

Exactly, you never loose points,  they're just rounded to whole number so you can't send 0.5.
4771  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Comprehensive guide to Bitcointalk. Newbie friendly + calculator and infographic on: April 11, 2018, 05:39:22 PM
Thank you for such detailed clarification of ranks and merits systems.
So, if you get 2 merits then you can send 1 merit to someone else, right?
And if you get 1 merit you can't send anything?

Yes, if you get only one, you actually have 0.5 sMerit, which you can't send /for now, there can be some changes in the rules in the future/ until you receive one more.
4772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: April 11, 2018, 11:37:47 AM
They just benchmark your phone and according your hardware specifications you get a certain reward in a given time - "hash rate". No mining involved in the real meaning. Well, I don't really see the point of getting rewarded for nothing, but this is their strategy. At least you are not killing your battery/phone by doing this so called "mining".
Aren't they pooling the hashes came from phone cpu's? Isn't cryptonight cpu minable? I don't get it.

They call it > The Mobile Mining Experience, see the quite below, source at the bottom.
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The Mobile Mining Experience
While mining for Electroneum, your phone won’t be performing real mining (as is done with a computer), but rather a simulation of mining.

The Electroneum team has described their mobile app as a Mobile Mining Experience.

Instead of actually using your phone’s CPU to solve complicated cryptographic problems (as is done with real mining), the app will continually monitor the available CPU power on your phone. In this way, it will determine the amount of CPU power that could have been used for mining, had the phone actually been mining.

Your phone will then be issued with a hash rate (speed of mining, if you will) based on its available CPU power. ETN coins will be credited to your online wallet based on this hash rate.

Link to the source article > https://electroneum101.com/how-to-mine-electroneum-with-a-mobile-phone/


4773  Other / Meta / Re: TMAN'S guide to getting merit. on: April 11, 2018, 11:21:46 AM
Nice going TMAN.

after the English lessons... https://www.efset.org/free-english-test/

Cheers klaaas.. keep the ideas coming guys then the people struggling cannot moan


English Grammar In Use by Raymond Murphy. If you want to learn proper English this is the book for you. I advice to buy a paper copy. Many used on eBay.

Otherwise here is a LINK>
Note: you can browse and download it.
4774  Other / Meta / Re: A Member rank wearing avatar? on: April 11, 2018, 10:42:01 AM

Is this serious ? i am also a member in rank but why is it i can't wear an avatar? bitcointalk forum already updated for that or not ?
i am curious about this thing because if this is happen already i am wearing also an avatar


If you are curious I would recommend reading this thread where the answer has already been given.

I saw now you answered him just before me Smiley

You better read the whole thread before commenting, it's not so big, you know.
.. or you just accumulating posts for your sig. campaign?

Suggest to the OP to Lock this thread to avoid further spam, if he thinks that his question is now answered.
4775  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 11, 2018, 09:19:47 AM
I have suggested it before, but in a 1 Merit per 100 reports (say >95% accurate) ratio. I don't think it's worth making 100 bad posts just to report them, when it's easier to just find 100 bad posts. And if someone reports 1000 posts, I don't mind him reaching Member status. Even if his own posts aren't that good, he'll have a positive net contribution to the forum after 1000 reports.

As I agree with you I see also weakness.
Let us take the ICO pumpers as an example, the bots are creating thousands of comments per day, I try to spare some time to browse and report some profiles in the ANN section,but there is just an disaster, well this is other topic.

As bots are created to post in the threads, seems to be easy to make a bot to report threads.
Here is an example of a report link >
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=3292413.27;msg=34433583
Well, you have some cool down time between reports for sure, but I don't think this will stop them as they can adjust the time between reports.
So you have two bots running, one spamming, other reporting. Then you have an extra income when doing the ico pumps from farming menit and selling accounts.

There is an option like captcha to be added for both posting and reporting, but many users already have trouble using it for login so it has to be locally integrated.

Of course there will be real people reporting too, so it's kind of put the shiposters to do some good work, but I don't know what will be the impact of reporting.
4776  Other / Meta / Re: Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section? on: April 11, 2018, 07:26:09 AM

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

It's maybe good in one way but just imagine all the shitposters hungry for merit what they can do if such change is accepted? Creating shit-threads only to report them accumulating merit. There are many ways to abuse system like this and you are not the first to suggest it. It has been discussed before, just search the forum Smiley
4777  Other / Meta / Re: A Member rank wearing avatar? on: April 11, 2018, 06:56:00 AM
There are many like him. The registration date is back from 2012. There were some changes before, I read that sometime ago all avatars were removed, then were allowed again. I think there were different rules on wearing avatar and not so many restrictions as today. I guess people wearing avatars with lower ranks back then kept their avatars till now.

Here is a reference > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970254.0

Here is another example > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=59078

Also there was a case with another member just few months ago, he couldn't remove his avatar because he got his rank lowered, but I can't find this thread anymore.

>Edited.
4778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: April 11, 2018, 05:55:41 AM
Waw! Electroneum Kudos for this recent update now i can see my old LG g3 mining up to 10 etn a day with a high Hash rate if 30.76h/s, before i couldn't mine 1etn for whole day with same device, whatever it was you did to make this transformation is really impressive,  the mobile mining now is alot better than previously, only just the price of etn is not able to move up like other tokens from time to time, but more time to grow.


How is hash rate even calculated if you're not using CPU power? I would like to know how this mobile "mining" thing actually works.

They just benchmark your phone and according your hardware specifications you get a certain reward in a given time - "hash rate". No mining involved in the real meaning. Well, I don't really see the point of getting rewarded for nothing, but this is their strategy. At least you are not killing your battery/phone by doing this so called "mining".
4779  Other / Meta / Re: [BUG] Insert quote button is missing on: April 10, 2018, 07:54:07 PM
As I said earlier, have you tried from another browser? Maybe from a mobile. Was this link there before and suddenly disappeared?
I've been using this option for quite some time and never experienced something like this. Well, I'm not on Mac,tho.

4780  Other / Meta / Re: [BUG] Insert quote button is missing on: April 10, 2018, 07:13:07 PM
Just tried it too. No problem at all.
Try to do the same from another browser or on the mobile. I've tested both, mobile and Chrome, no issues found.
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