Merit & new rank requirements

[suchmoon]

Well it provides them with sMerit, with more sMerit to vote for other posts if I may say this. While I, myself and I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY to give merit to others. So if you are an "old schooler" here you have more power in your hands. Same applies with getting this "merit source" status you have to be high rank to be able to give merit to others and this is not related with our knowledge or engagement within the community.

It's a one-time bonus for existing accounts, and only for those that were active within the last year. Once those sMerits are gone - they're gone. New ones have to be earned the same way for everyone, rank has nothing to do with that.

[Kiritsugu]

This might not be fair for new people, I don't know if others will ever consider to give merit to newbies. Guess I had to been registered here like 1year back to get some kind of "good" positions. Juniors and newbies are often treated poorly.

It's perfectly fair to new people.  It just means that in order for you to rank up or earn Merit, you have to write high-quality posts, rather than just spam a bunch of worthless stuff.  You're not being treated poorly; everyone has to write high-quality posts.  The only difference is that higher ranks start with more Merit as a baseline, which doesn't provide them any kind of advantage over you.

Well it provides them with sMerit, with more sMerit to vote for other posts if I may say this. While I, myself and I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY to give merit to others. So if you are an "old schooler" here you have more power in your hands. Same applies with getting this "merit source" status you have to be high rank to be able to give merit to others and this is not related with our knowledge or engagement within the community.

The base sMerit members have already received is a finite number.  It won't take long to spend (I've already spent 50+ of my 200), and if people just hoard their sMerit, Theymos said he'll likely add a decay to it.  Sure, you don't have any sMerit to give out right now, but if you write some high-quality posts (like everyone else has to), then 50% of the Merit they give you goes to your sMerit stash.

And according to Theymos' first post, becoming a "merit source" has nothing to do with rank, you just have to find 10 under-appreciated posts...

[BlackRock]

If there is no demeriting right now. How does this guy at the topic -link below- demerited by the same guy?

Deena

Merited by crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.140

wait,for few hrs for server to refresh.Thymos has fixed code to accumulate multiple merits given by same person to show as single entry
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857508#msg28857508

[bill gator]

Theymos, bug : Sending negative merit increases your spendable merit, please advise and fix.

I tested it on another user, gave them negative my total spendable increased. I gave them back their merit and now my contribution is +0 merit to their post, which is funny at best, but definitely something I'm sure you're already looking into.

[walterw]

If there is no demeriting right now. How does this guy at the topic -link below- demerited by the same guy?

Deena

Merited by crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.140

It looks like a bug to me.

[Lauda]

If there is no demeriting right now. How does this guy at the topic -link below- demerited by the same guy?

Merited by crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10), crairezx20 (-10)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.140

Did you forget to limit the merit you can send to positive numbers?

Tested on Lutpin:
Entered -10.
His points dropped by -10.
My sMerit went up by 10.

I assume, the 50 limit doesn't apply here and I could neg. you by a few thousands.
Update: Tested. There is no limit on the negative numbers. Sorry Luptin.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

But...but...but...this is going to screw things up for all the Jr member accounts and their airdrops, and their prospects for a long and prosperous career of typing "Joined, good project" to rank up and get paid.

This system is another example of doing something instead of nothing.  We'll see if it helps.

[BlackRock]

But...but...but...this is going to screw things up for all the Jr member accounts and their airdrops, and their prospects for a long and prosperous career of typing "Joined, good project" to rank up and get paid.

This system is another example of doing something instead of nothing.  We'll see if it helps.

LOL..Pity those who made it full time job.Their livelihood is at risk

[Tramirostronix]

I'm afraid, some bad people or jealous one use "demerit function" in some situations (disagree with a bounty manager, revenge ..).

So maybe we should only keep Merit ?

[Lutpin]

I assume, the 50 limit doesn't apply here and I could neg. you by a few thousands.
Update: Tested. There is no limit on the negative numbers. Sorry Luptin.

But...but...but...this is going to screw things up for all the Jr member accounts and their airdrops, and their prospects for a long and prosperous career of typing "Joined, good project" to rank up and get paid.

This system is another example of doing something instead of nothing.  We'll see if it helps.

Classic arrogant DT2 snobist elevated elite boyclub member thing stuff some bla bla

(please dont demerit  )

[StarLawl]

This might not be fair for new people, I don't know if others will ever consider to give merit to newbies. Guess I had to been registered here like 1year back to get some kind of "good" positions. Juniors and newbies are often treated poorly.

It's perfectly fair to new people.  It just means that in order for you to rank up or earn Merit, you have to write high-quality posts, rather than just spam a bunch of worthless stuff.  You're not being treated poorly; everyone has to write high-quality posts.  

As a newbie on this forum this is the best thing that has happened to me. Instead of being classified as one of the many account boosters I can gain merits! (Achievement guys, for real) As a Gamer Chick I dig this.  Should be some sort of negative merit aswell though. Scouting through the first page of almost any part of the forum it is difficult to separate the real posts from the shitposts.

If it was possible to grey out posts with negative merit and highlight those with received merit or a sub-post with received merit, that would leave other threads neutral and up to you as a reader to decide if it is worth reading or not.

[bill gator]

It seems theymos fixed the negative bug already, or at least temporarily; it now gives a message of "Invalid Amount", same if you try to give someone "0" merit.

That could've gotten dicey real quick, what will be done to the merit that was gained (regardless of the insignificant amount) through this method? I'm sure there are a handful of lower-rank members that already have ghastly amounts of merit.

[theymos]

Did you forget to limit the merit you can send to positive numbers?

Whoops, that's a bit embarrassing... I fixed it.

[Tramirostronix]

No you can already send negatif number, already -5 for me   

[TheBeardedBaby]

Here is one idea, merit points as a reward for reporting spam posts/accounts.

[Kiritsugu]

This might not be fair for new people, I don't know if others will ever consider to give merit to newbies. Guess I had to been registered here like 1year back to get some kind of "good" positions. Juniors and newbies are often treated poorly.

It's perfectly fair to new people.  It just means that in order for you to rank up or earn Merit, you have to write high-quality posts, rather than just spam a bunch of worthless stuff.  You're not being treated poorly; everyone has to write high-quality posts.  

As a newbie on this forum this is the best thing that has happened to me. Instead of being classified as one of the many account boosters I can gain merits! (Achievement guys, for real) As a Gamer Chick I dig this.  Should be some sort of negative merit aswell though. Scouting through the first page of almost any part of the forum it is difficult to separate the real posts from the shitposts.

If it was possible to grey out posts with negative merit and highlight those with received merit or a sub-post with received merit, that would leave other threads neutral and up to you as a reader to decide if it is worth reading or not.

Not trying to be a dick here but what does you being a "Gamer Chick" have anything to do with this topic?  Why does every girl that games feel the need to announce it?

I'm a Gamer Boy feed me attention!

[mprep]

Did you forget to limit the merit you can send to positive numbers?

Whoops, that's a bit embarrassing... I fixed it.

A few leftovers from the bug:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857781#msg28857781 (negative merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857729#msg28857729 (zero value merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857682#msg28857682 (negative merit)

[Tramirostronix]

Did you forget to limit the merit you can send to positive numbers?

Whoops, that's a bit embarrassing... I fixed it.

A few leftovers from the bug:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857781#msg28857781 (negative merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857729#msg28857729 (zero value merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857682#msg28857682 (negative merit)

Oh so it's a bug, ok 
thanks man 

[theymos]

A few leftovers from the bug:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857781#msg28857781 (negative merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857729#msg28857729 (zero value merit)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28857682#msg28857682 (negative merit)

It's actually gone, those are just cached.

[Vod]

Here is one idea, merit points as a reward for reporting spam posts/accounts.

I'm sure part of the criteria Theymos accepts for making people merit sources, is the proper reporting of posts.