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4821  Economy / Economics / Re: Where did you first heard about Bitcoins? on: March 22, 2016, 08:05:51 AM
I heard about bitcoin about five or six months ago from my classmates who i can called he was success with bitcoin. Because he can buy his necessary and pay something with his own money without ask to his parents.
And then not take a long time after he suggested me to use bitcoin i am starting gave interest to bitcoin and made an account to this forum, I plan to join a signatures campaign but still wait until my rank grow up and still learning about bitcoin Grin

wow you are lucky.. you get right friend, in my life, i have tried to introduce bitcoin for all people, my family, my friend but no people interesting to join bitcoin comunity, it's very hard to find people interesting in this technology.

It is hard to join something that you do not know, at least that is the main reason people I know reject bitcoin. And they are very much wrapped around fiat that they cannot see the benefits of bitcoin. If bitcoin grow a little bit more and be more accessible, then maybe it will be easier to ask people around to join the community. Anyway, it is not our loss if they do not join, it is theirs.
4822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: March 22, 2016, 07:55:06 AM
That's 100% true. If you are not ready to loose, do not gamble. Gamble for fun, not for money - this is simple and good rule.  Grin

Yup, gamble for entertainment only and gamble only the amount that you can lose. So that if you lose, you will not have the feeling that you have to get back the money that you lose. That feeling sometimes lead to addiction and the source of all gambling problems. If you only gamble for fun, you can eliminate that and you can enjoy gambling more.
4823  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: March 22, 2016, 07:39:22 AM
Getting rich is not just a thing you can become in my opinion, you will have to work hard for it and if you want to do it with the bitcoin you will need a lot of time.
The fact is that it takes some time to succeed it with the bitcoin, investing can already be a start because the price can jump to a higher amount.
if you do not have the capital to work of course you'll need plenty of time to be rich in bitcoin. because you have to collect bitcoin for free. and to get a lot of bitcoin takes a long time
by the way how many bitcoin needed to be called to be rich?

It depends on your definition of rich. It is subjective. You might consider someone with 100 bitcoins rich but I don't. I need more than 1000 bitcoins to reach the rich level. It also depends on your lifestyle. 1000 bitcoin may not be enough to sustain your annual expense so that will not be considered rich if it runs out that quick. But you are correct, you need capital to be rich. You need money to make money, right?
4824  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: March 22, 2016, 07:15:15 AM
I have some trading skills and i hope here i will find some usefull knowlege about bitcoin and after all i will use all of it and make some profit. I still don't know how  Grin Hope strategy will come to my mind soon.
Better do it now because time is ticking. Soon it will be halving and the price will rise very fast. If you can't get in the trading game by then you will be left in the dust. Better trade now and earn as much bitcoin as you can so after the halving what ever bitcoin you have will have double or triple its value.
4825  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: March 22, 2016, 04:33:53 AM
Getting rich is not just a thing you can become in my opinion, you will have to work hard for it and if you want to do it with the bitcoin you will need a lot of time.
The fact is that it takes some time to succeed it with the bitcoin, investing can already be a start because the price can jump to a higher amount.

It is achievable because I can hear stories of rags to riches all the time. My former boss is an inspirational story of rags to riches. He just did what he knows and what he is best at. He focus his energy into it and few years later he has a stable and successful business. We all can be like that but we need the same dedication and perseverance as he had shown in what ever endeavor we have. It is not just working hard but also working smart for ourselves. Continuously cultivating our skills so we can use them better to enrich ourselves. Problem is, people just wanted to be rich but too lazy to move their asses and do something for themselves.
4826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin survive world war III? on: March 21, 2016, 09:06:05 AM
How can just two countries have such a big influence and break what we call the internet. I think that the idea is a little to far fetched

If it is a world war, it is not limited to 2 warring countries. World war means group of countries going up against another group of countries. And this kind of war can deliver massive damage to the world and the internet especially if they use weapons of mass destruction like nuclear war heads. You won't be thinking of internet by then, you will be running for your life if that happens.  
4827  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you Still believe in Fiat? on: March 21, 2016, 07:42:52 AM
Fiat still works and I am still using it on a daily basis, so yes. Until bitcoin can be used as easily, conveniently as fiat, then it cannot replace fiat. So I still believe in fiat's purchasing power but I do not know how long it will last. With the emergence of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, fiat's future is bleak.
4828  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin survive world war III? on: March 21, 2016, 07:38:37 AM
I think, as long as the blockchain is intact it can survive. But that would not be your primary concern if that kind of war broke out. You will be too busy surviving that you will not be thinking of money or bitcoin. Food and shelter will be your priority. And when everything calms down, internet connection and bitcoin can be rebuilt.
4829  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: March 21, 2016, 07:28:50 AM
Investing is the good part between these to (save or invest) because when saving money the value of the money decreases when some years are passed, with a good investment strategy we can earn good profit.

how abut investing your money at your self, like buying book? learning at private school, try make new way like open small bussiness?
i think it's a good way to invest our money, because we will found more experience where the experience make our skill increasing.

Out of everyone here, you're the first one on the right track. You won't make money through someone else -- you make it through yourself. All the wealthy have one thing in common: they run their own businesses.

It is really a good way to study first on what you are investing so you wont lose a large amount of money when go straight away to build a business.

Of course that is already implied. You cannot be successful in any business adventure unless you have full knowledge of whatever business you are trying to build. This includes asset management, people management and the likes. Or you could hire someone to do that for you but that would eat some of the profits.
4830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 21, 2016, 07:18:24 AM
If you are an addict or afraid to become an addict. Find yourself a nice hobby that will attract your attention from gambling in my opinion.
It's good you want to quit gambling so focus your time on something positive I think.

New hobbies would really work if that hobby are the hobbies that you do before you get addicted to gambling...Working in real life would be an easier answer to quit addiction...But if you don't care about your future, never mind,  my suggestion won't work I guess..
Adopting new hobbies will definitely help to overcome any addiction. Other than hobbies, showing love and affection towards your family or to any pet animals also will help in a better way. Some people also suggest bodybuilding also will help to overcome gambling addictions.

Yes, focusing your energy on things that you like other than gambling could really help a lot on getting rid of gambling for good.  This things should get 100 percent of your attention and time so that there will be nothing left for gambling. Do that at least for a month and you'll be replacing gambling with that hobby. And soon enough, gambling will be out of your system for sure.
4831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 21, 2016, 07:08:32 AM
Trading is definitely gambling to me you can lose and gain more money quickly.
both are risk but gambling have more high risk than trading and gambling is based on your luck but trading based on your skill because in trading if you have skill for speculate the prices and i'm pretty sure you will very rarely to lost your money



Yes, you have a greater chance of succeeding in Trading if you have the will and discipline of a good trader. Studying trends, good read of charts, and being not too greedy is just a few. Good skills plus some luck can be turn into good profit in trading unlike in gambling, it is mostly luck and only little skill.
But I do not see the greater chances of success with the trading. Because like gambling if you get greed while trading, then you will get losses. Even you have experience, knowledge and skill, still you need to rely on your luck to get profit with the trading. So, it is highly similar to gambling.

That is just because you are greedy. But if you can control yourself you have a higher chance of profit. You do not rely on a 50% chance. If you just study your trades and make an inform decision of your bets, everything can be calculated and you have a higher chance of winning. Your risk can be removed. Unlike in gambling, you have a less than 50% chance if you included house edge.
4832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 21, 2016, 04:33:30 AM
Trading is definitely gambling to me you can lose and gain more money quickly.
both are risk but gambling have more high risk than trading and gambling is based on your luck but trading based on your skill because in trading if you have skill for speculate the prices and i'm pretty sure you will very rarely to lost your money



Yes, you have a greater chance of succeeding in Trading if you have the will and discipline of a good trader. Studying trends, good read of charts, and being not too greedy is just a few. Good skills plus some luck can be turn into good profit in trading unlike in gambling, it is mostly luck and only little skill.
4833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2015-16 Regular Season Discussion on: March 21, 2016, 04:28:06 AM
San Antonio showed which team is the best in the league yesterday. They stopped Warriors' shooting based strategy. Their shooting percentage decreased dramatically. I see Spurs the biggest contender for championship.

This is the real San antonio w/ the good coach and the good players played together I'm betting for this team to be the NBA champ this season, they showed last night how furious they are and how they depend their home. San Antonio keep it up..

I am rooting for them too. If they can consistently seal the "splash brothers", they have a great chance of getting this year championship. Let's see how they will fare when the game goes to GSW home court. They still have two regular season games against GSW so let's see how the GSW will counter SAS. But if it is GSW Homecourt, I'll be betting on them. 
4834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: March 21, 2016, 04:15:07 AM
They both included into gambling category. The different only how they works ...

Yes of course it is also a gamble, there is a risk so it is also in the scope of gambling. But trading got some good news. You can learn from it. You can see some experts predictions, but that would still be a risk. It will still depend on you.

and here's the fact as I've ever know : I'm never saw people got rich from trading
If you ask about rich gambler , here's the one for example : https://www.instagram.com/danbilzerian/

If you really think that no one got rich because of trading, then your world is confined to the four corners of your room. You should get outside and see the world of trading first. If you mention trading, George Soros could be the first name to come to mind. You can do a research about him and tell me if any gambler can bankrupt a country like he did or make a $1 billion profit.
4835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: March 21, 2016, 02:48:45 AM
Gambling will make you ahppy if win, so u become more greedy and end with losing all ur coins, gambling is about controlling yourself to not go all in.
how can people control themselves in gambling? while those already addicted to gambling
They can be controlled if they stay busy in some other work, and if they start other games and rely on other entertainment then they can be controlled from gambling. Or they have to make a fix time table to play.

Yeah you right. But people who have gambling addict always find a way to gambling, even when he at work. Because i am a gambler and it's hard to stop even you at work.
I think many ways to stop gambling why you don't try to vacation in far places with your friends or family. or bring your girlfriends so that you can forgot gambling.. Or try to go in psychiatrist they can give you the best solution for addiction..

That would only stop him from gambling while he is in vacation, after that everything will just go back the way it is. He is addicted and he will find a way to gamble unless it is cured from the root. So, if he really want to stop and he is committed to it, he must consult a professional about it. Just getting away will not do the job.
4836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: March 20, 2016, 09:29:47 AM
If Gambling is for fun then its not wrong but if just spend all your money in gambling like a crazy then it is wrong as it will make you loose everything.


When you really lose everything youve got then you are doing it wrong,many people do it for fun and when they profit its enough for them.

When you win it is good, but when you lose it's wrong. This is how many people think.
And yes this mentality is wrong. The game is for entertainment and this should be it's main focus. Nothing more nothing less.

This is the right thinking but still many justify gambling by the profit. If they win, gambling is good but they do not see the negative effect of gambling. They will continue this kind of thinking until they are addicted to it and get into situations that is hard to get out like gambling debts and the likes.
4837  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: March 20, 2016, 07:04:30 AM
It is simple just start a job and collect some money for investment and then invest them to start your own business and be your own boss with that you will not face any lose and will be rich.

Opening up a business does not guarantee a get rich formula. Actually most of businesses collapse in the first five years. Failure my be associated to different causes including mismanagement. So if you want to start a business be sure you know what you are doing and you are ready to do the hard stuff. 
4838  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: March 20, 2016, 05:54:59 AM
No. No one is now waiting for the price to drop to that value as everyone now has collected a sufficient amount of bitcoin and are waiting for the halving to increase their wealth with the increase of the price of bitcoin, and in that case if the price dropped then no one will then ever try to collect bitcoins and if they get any of them they will immediately convert them to fiat.

It's not just like that.. most of those who invested in bitcoin during this days that the price is high would be disappointed if they would not profit..if the price would drop low to up to $100 per bitcoin,then  many of those who invest might leave and might have a bad impression about bitcoin..

The below 100$ bitcoin wont happen,as user of bitcoin is getting more and more which means that the demand for bitcoin is getting higher.
If the demand is high then the price will surely go up.
the increase users will create market demand rises it will make bitcoin prices rose. but what if most users sell their bitcoin simultaneously you know halving will occur right ?
it could make the price plummeted if everyone sell their bitcoin


Yes, dumping could happen if the price rise after halving but I do not think it will bring the price back to a one hundred level. There will be buyers again if the price drops because they will take that as an opportunity for good profit. And I think, bitcoin is more stable now so dumping after halving will have low effect to bitcoin
4839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: March 20, 2016, 05:36:19 AM
gambling addictions are like any other addiction, when some people start, they get hooked and its harder for them to stop than it may seem
if it can be likened to an addiction to drugs. it can be very dangerous. if you stop certainly it would be bad for you. very difficult to get out on drugs. as well as with gambling
I think its better to be addicted in drugs than be addicted in gambling because you will lose all your things you had so you will be poor after all you done and lose all your money .. while If you addicted in drugs you will be crazy and there's a rehab to solution it.. not the same result as addicted in gambling..

Seriously? Did you just said drugs is better than gambling? Even if you can go crazy and start killing people? No addiction is good, wether drugs or gambling. Both of them will ruin your life in the end. So it is best not to be involve on any of them just to be safe.
4840  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: March 20, 2016, 05:27:56 AM
Find in internet book the The Key Master you can put in search The Key Master Eugene Fersen
that book has been baned by USA authorities like CIA etc in 20thies in that book is desribed how mind is working and there are teachings how to fully get in human potenciality what is infiitive
On that base has been developed tecniques to slave people masses If you will read you will see how it works
But if rich is for you only money than you will have problem
You have to find that ebook  free to download some asshoes are selling that if you are from USA maybe you will need touse tor or european seach engine ixquick

Can a book really make you rich? Have you read this book and applied it in real life or is this just some kind of propaganda used in "get rich quick seminars"? I don't think reading a book can make anyone rich. Even if you know all the theories to get rich or master your full potential, if you do not use it properly it will be useless. Work hard and smart is still better in my opinion.


I think that book is made for scam purposes only,still he will be working hard and playing smart to scam some people with this so called book on how to get rich.

Yes, and mostly people will fall into this kind of scam because of the promise of easy money. What they do not know is that they will be paying for something that is totally useless. They can read it, memorize it but it will not have any effect unless they work hard. So it is working hard what is needed to become rich not any book.
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