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4861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: January 03, 2017, 12:54:30 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers vs New Orleans Pelicans : Bet for Cleveland to win .

I bet also for Cleveland for this game and it is now on the go. Just an update as of now 2nd quarter 5:25 remaining the score is 35-33 in favor of Pelicans. The pelicans are showing good performance for this game but still it is a long run before the end of this game. I hope my prediction will be right for this that Cavs will get this game.
4862  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: January 03, 2017, 12:45:30 AM
If you are playing dice just try to extend your luck as long as your strategy wins and and soon as you feel like the luck runs out just withdraw and run because no one wins the long run and that is how gambling sites are designed and if you keep on chasing the losses you will end up losing everything.

The problem is that when we are in profit and we stop then we feel we could have made more profit while when we loose we think we should recover the loss given to the site.
And that is the main reason to become addicted in gambling, gambling compel you o continue gambling in both condition either you are winning or losing money.

Because when you start winning your try to increase the wining more and more and when you start losing after every bit you try to recover the previous bet and so you become addicted and we never find the right time to stop.

That is really happening and it happened to me, even though I am winning good amount in dicing still I'm not able to help myself but to keep on moving because I'm always thinking that if I will keep on gambling, I have the chance to keep on winning. But what happened was a tragedy, I lost almost everything together with my bankroll and that's the time I stopped.
4863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: January 03, 2017, 12:33:14 AM
Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.
different points of view the only matter is how we can earn from our investment so no matter what way it is as long as we can earn some money from that way we will be able to enjoy, as we all knew that theirs something that we can't see but others manage to earn from this type of system. just be very resourceful and research to learn more.

That's right, because he is just looking upon on one part of gambling and that's with the negative part. No doubt that many gamblers that has extensive knowledge are able to earn that much money in gambling because they know how to invest and use gambling in a profitable way. Even though the risk cannot be removed, still invest at your own risk. Because not all the time casino's are earning that much if you're an investor.
4864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: January 03, 2017, 12:17:14 AM
If gambling leads a user into financial debt as a result of gambling addiction,then it is wrong.But if you find yourself winning I do not think anybody in their right mind will say its wrong.

If he is on that situation already that he has a lot of debt for sure he is going to sell everything he can just to pay his obligations and keep on gambling, that is making gambling worst for a gambler like him. Actually, gambling is not wrong if all of us knows how to take responsibility and we know how gambling can bring us far.
4865  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: January 02, 2017, 09:03:09 AM
From my own position here, the only thing addictive is the part of winning then I am of the opinion that I will win again aside that, if I should lose successively and I have even reached the level I won't go beyond, then I am stopping immediately to come another day and try my luck there. Winning is the only addictive part and nothing else.

Yes that is making us all addicted in gambling when already tried to win for sometime. What comes to our minds is that when we are going to gamble again we have the chance to win again and that is making us more addicted into it. We are always aiming for that turn that can change our lives assuming to win a big amount but we are falling into addiction.
4866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: January 02, 2017, 08:40:45 AM
Anyone who even considered gambling as an investment must be living in another world or who has a different view to what we all regard as gambling for me, gambling is just a doubling scheme which your money can even go without coming back before ypou close your eyes and open it. The investment part is when you join in bankrolling and that's it.

So I came from another world because I'm treating gambling as an investment? Why I won't if that is the fact and casino's are looking for those people who are willing to invest into their bankroll casino's. Even though we are talking about gambling, you don't have to be a gambler that plays all day long and make it your investment, you can just simply invest and deposit there and treat gambling as your own personal investment.
4867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: best live bet on: January 02, 2017, 08:29:24 AM
I have tried bet baller for sometime and I can say they are good enough when it comes to sports betting. But still most of us here are preferring to love the way live bets with Directbet. I guess this is why directbet is always on the top list of most preferred gambling sites but I don't stick with a single site with this, I also tried nitrogensports.eu
4868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin gambling idea on: January 02, 2017, 07:55:48 AM
If you want to make your gambling site unique I guess you need to have some new exciting and unique games that other casino's don't have.

I never seen some gambling site who opened up some color dice game where players select the color they want and they win if their color desired will be similar to the roll result, and other game came to my mind is horse racing althoug it is similar as betballers game but i think you could also implement it so people would have another choices to bet on. You could also add 1 single card pvp or house battle where bettors would win if his 1 card beholding is larger than opponents card.
This is also my idea that you need to have that color game and you will just have I guess 6 or 9 choices of colors and you will roll 3 dices. When those dice have the color, then that will show who are those winners.
4869  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: January 02, 2017, 07:36:05 AM
I would feel ashamed if I took the rights or property of others, if I caught gamble I will not be ashamed, let alone other people would say about me

Well that's more shameful rather than being caught that you are gambling your own money or if you have been caught while gambling because you have stole others property and the money you used for gambling came from there. It is better that you will just show yourself of who you really are rather than hiding under a mask. As long as I am gambling without hurting other people's feeling and character, it's fine to be called a gambler.
4870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: how much do you think keeping logs is effective in gambling? on: January 02, 2017, 07:07:43 AM
i dont understand what is the positive thing that could do on keeping logs,if you are planning to roll with a budget then that is the most important thing that is needed,what kind of logs can we take if you are rolling in dice sites.

The positive part of keeping logs is you actually know what is happening on your gambling career. If you keep records every time you will gamble, you can see how effective you have been gambling and if you also can notice with those logs that you are not that productive for the past days. It can help you to stop for a while and take some time to relax.
4871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: December 31, 2016, 10:59:02 AM
Do you care about the bonuses casino offers or play regularly and spotaneously without look at it like me ?

Bonuses are good if that is not just a way of marketing their gambling site. It is much better to keep on gambling and play the regular way as it is. Because if you will hope for some bonus and you won't be focusing more on your current situation as you gamble, because you have something to hope for whenever you lose.
4872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: December 31, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?
I stop when i have lost all my gambling money(i set aside .2-.4 btc for gambling), then wait for months before i start gambling again lol.

Since i knew abou bitcoin and online gambling, i have target to lose or win. like i lost 50% of my bankroll or win 30% of my bankroll i'll stop for thats time, but sometime i lost control and stop after lose all my bankroll too.
Thats the effect of greediness that happen in every gamblers. Sometimes will win sometimes will lose thats the life.
part of our every day gambling activity, just needed to have mind and self control whether we keep losing or we keep on winning always have some target amount to stop, i know its easy to say that but if we are already inside the game and we are feeling lucky its really hard to say stop as greediness always conquer our mind to keep the winning streak.
I also feel that self-control is a very appropriate thing to make us know when the right time to stop. Well, although saying that, I also sometimes always play without limits if I'm lucky. basically it all depends on your will. maybe you'd better make the limitation amount in gambling.
There is no limit in losing, human psychology wants to get lost, that is, there is no mathematical form in  gambling for me

What do you mean there is no mathematical form? That sentence has so much confusion in it. Anyway, the math here is that you stop when you don't have money anymore. Money is calculated, so there is math right there. That is the limit of the human psychology, when he has no money he cannot gamble.

I'm a bit confuse too on what he is saying about that mathematical form or maybe he is pointing out that there is no way to win in gambling scientifically or with any mathematical solution? I don't know if that he is wants to say as he said he is pertaining to the human psychology. But there is one thing that is easy to know on when a gambler will stop, first is when he lost everything and lastly, if he has enough profit.
4873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto trading or gambling on: December 31, 2016, 09:42:12 AM
Crypto trading is best way of earning, because gambling is very risky and you have to play and then win some coins but mostly you loose your bitcoins. While in trading you just buy coins and wait for price to increase and there is a risk of loss but chances are very less as compared to gambling. So go for ICO, the best way of earning.

I agree with that because I find it also that every time I will trade alt coins chances of getting profit is higher than hoping to win some profit with dice games. But what I do is when I am not that busy and has a lot of time to do whatever I want, I stay at a gambling site and gamble all day long. And when I lose all the profit I got, I just getting back again with trading.
4874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be considered a "high risk investment"? on: December 31, 2016, 09:29:37 AM
Investing and gambling is a matter of decision making so this things will always rely on you. How much to lose or to gain is depending on your bets , same with when or where will the betting be. High or low risk it doesn't matter. The risk is always there.
It is depending on your investment, if you are investing a large amont then surely the risk is high and if you are going to invest a small amount then there is low risk, but the fact is that risk is always involve not only in gambling but in all types of trading also.
i think there are so many other risk factors, for example the type of gambling game. there is more risk in dice games as compare to sports betting, and your experience and gambling skill also effect your risk factors.

Yes that's true, dice games are riskier than sports betting. Because in sports betting it allows you to do some research and know the teams that you are going to bet your money and that's an advantage for you. By that way, many are thinking that their each bets are their very own investment in gambling which is seemingly high risk type of investment.
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4876  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: December 30, 2016, 10:07:51 AM
You always should have your safety or limit to the amount you will gamble. Bet what you can afford to lose, so you wouldn't be emotional when it happens. You can risk in a smart way by betting on the right places. (For example for sportsbooks) To bet on the team or player that would have a sure win. So eventually, you will always have the advantage. You just have to be patient and don't be frustrated. Goodluck to people who gambles!

Yes that's the best thing to do is to limit the amount when we gamble. Because if you are responsible gambler and you know what is your limit. You will actually make gambling just a source of fun and also it is better to bet on smaller amount rather than doing big bets. Because when you bet small and you lose then it won't make you affected at all.

Gambling is indeed something fun, because all the people who do the gambling will surely have 2 feeling (happy and sad) and that all will not be invalidated by any game anywhere. It's just gambling have malice should we tebalkan and we should underline line, because if we do not remember this danger then our lives would be a mess because it was losing control in gambling. Addiction is the main danger in gambling

We all know about that and that is normal if you are into gambling then you will end up losing and also into gambling addiction. That's why there are people who are looking for some smart ways that can make their gambling experience improved and safe. Even you are enjoying the way you gamble you should still need to monitor your style of gambling.

4877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: December 30, 2016, 09:36:24 AM
Before, I was gambling below 18. Though this was with a local bookie my friend knew (my friend was already 25 years old at the time). So, I was able to ride with his bets at the time. I won around $100 back then. Was fun times. I was really a big fan of NBA at the time so I had so much time to study the game and had a massive knowledge on how games work back then.

Actually there is no problem if there is someone who does gambling under 18. Because gambling is not a big problem for everyone, but there is one cause that indeed it could give a negative impact and can give large losses for those who get it, i.e. greed. And indeed if I see or even all people also see it, then the cause of someone experiencing addiction and massive losses in gambling is because they are very greedy of the yet they can get.

That is a problem for him not for other people, why? Because he learns how to gamble at his minor age which basically not the thing that is doing with his age way back then. There are even more younger than learns to gamble at that age and manage to act illegally when they are already addicted into it just to sustain their addiction.
4878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 30, 2016, 09:10:31 AM
i think because people didnt have 100% luck with gambling..you bet house for house, you bet candy for candy.. someday u will lose it all..
maybe trading is the best way to get some coin little by little.. u never lose it all Wink
It is a fact that no one can be 100% lucky at all, you can win a bet may be the send and the third also but not for every trade. Although trading is also a risky game and you can also lose your money there, but still there you have always a chance to recover your money back you have lost.

That's why I always prefer to recover my lose from the profit that I can get with trading. Because by just simply waiting for the alt coins to pump that I have. I manage to sell them immediately to cover my losses immediately. And I also I don't have to rush with trading unlike in gambling when a loser claims to recover his losses he is always on the rush that makes him lose more.

its lot easy to recover our lose in trading than recover our loss in gambling because we have a chance for waiting the pump and beside that, the recover we've made is sometimes more bigger than the budget we've spend so we can make a big profit in trading. but in gambling, its hard to recover our budget because once we are loss, then it means our money never can get back completely.

You said it right, because if I am going to recover my losses with gambling again tendency of losing more bitcoins is possible to happen. It did already happened to me, that's why I don't want to happen that to me again. I find it that it is better to recover it the slow way just like what we know, the slower the better but it still depends on the flow of the market of alt coins.
4879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: December 30, 2016, 08:49:14 AM
Knowledge is always the key lead us to success. In technically saying, you can even have a decent amount of Bitcoin every months if you have learned how to trade and obtain some experience, as well as skills from trading experts. However, in gambling, we can only decline the losing chance if you have talents or knowledge because gambling relies most on luck and we can not able to control luck at all.
Yes, that is right to say but I think you can use your knowledge, your skill and experience only in sports gambling, while in other format of gambling there you will depend on your luck, if you are lucky you will be able to make money and if you are not luck you will even lose your own money.

You can also use those things in poker and for having those things in gambling it can make you a better gambler. Since it is applicable in gambling, better to use it with trading because in it you have the guarantee that you are going to get more profit together if you are going to be that patient enough and wait for your trades. Both of it has also the risk that we can't avoid.
4880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 30, 2016, 07:57:31 AM
People need face a lose before able to stop gambling at all but sometimes , people still greed or even worse to chase their loss
If you have a friend or family that facing gambling problem, you should help them before it's too late

Of course those gamblers who are now wanting to quit gambling for real are the once you already experienced losing. And no matter what they do, they really can't help themselves but to keep on gambling. Family and friends support is necessary for a gambler that wants to quit gambling and has the willingness to do it, moral support is important.
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