Инвестируйте свои деньги в несколько активов, желательно разноплановых, тогда вы будете меньше всего подвержены просадке одного вида активов. Даже если вы сильно любите и цените Биткоин или доллары, разумно будет хоть несколько десятков процентов от суммы своих сбережений хранить например в Евро или вообще в акциях.
Евро может быть как вариант, но этот вариант будет направлен на сохранение стоимости относительно национальной валюты. Но хочется что бы деньги еще работали и приносили доход, а не просто лежали. В период кризиса все не просто, и акции это тоже не 100% гарантия получения прибыли. Возможно сейчас действительно стоит подождать пока ситуация стабилизируется, что бы понимать что может быть дальше. Во времена кризиса как сейчас, когда крупнейшие мировые национальные банки почти без остановки печатают свои валюты встает вопрос не как заработать, а как хотя бы сохранить покупательскую способность своих средств. Кто-то бежит в магазины за техникой, у кого денег больше покупает машины и недвижимость (неплохой кстати вариант в кризис). Для людей знакомых с крипто рынком такой вопрос конечно сильно не стоит, хотя бы часть своих денег можно и нужно занести в Биткоин. Однако ни кому бы не советовал делать это на все деньги. |
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In regular casinos you buy chips at the cash desk. I do not see a big difference in what currency you will do it for. Especially now there are already existing plastic crypt-currency cards, which are nominated in cryptocurrency and when calculated convert it to dollars.
I also think of an idea that regular gambling casinos can use chips that will represent the value of bitcoin. By that, gamblers can buy bitcoins through chips and they can now play cards or any game they want. It is possible that cryptocurrency may be used in a regular casino or maybe there are some casinos who is regulating it already. Online casino websites if you will compare, it is just a part of an overall running casino. Most casinos adapt easily and I see no other reason for them not to adopt cryptocurrency. Conventional casinos do not sell their chips directly for cryptographic currency primarily because it is not allowed by the law of the countries where they are located. This is the main reason. In addition, not many people use cryptov currencies, and therefore casinos see no reason to lobby for the adoption of such bills in their countries. |
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What do you think?
at some point people will be able to walk in a casino and just bet on slot machines with bitcoin?
or play poker using crypto, but irl?
do you think it will become a mass adoption currency or it'll keep as it is on online websites only?
of course some merchants and places already adopt crypto and BTC as a way of payment, but curious here:
how long you think it'll take to reach the point where we can bet in real life places with bitcoin?
In regular casinos you buy chips at the cash desk. I do not see a big difference in what currency you will do it for. Especially now there are already existing plastic crypt-currency cards, which are nominated in cryptocurrency and when calculated convert it to dollars. |
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А вообще ситуация с долларом порядком настораживает, тем более когда есть сбережения в долларе. Инвестировать часть в биткоин это разумно, но я не из тех людей, кто все кладет в одну корзину, по этому наверное буду рассматривать вариант с недвижимостью.
Инвестируйте свои деньги в несколько активов, желательно разноплановых, тогда вы будете меньше всего подвержены просадке одного вида активов. Даже если вы сильно любите и цените Биткоин или доллары, разумно будет хоть несколько десятков процентов от суммы своих сбережений хранить например в Евро или вообще в акциях. |
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There are a lot of scammers around us and they are constantly inventing different ways to steal our money. They can be and ponzi schemes and gambling sites that are not aimed at long-term work. There are many ways to steal our money, so all projects and sites should be treated with suspicion and always look for feedback about them on the Internet.
Always look for feedback but most of the time with due experience you can directly tell which one is fraud and which one is legit.Scams do exist no matter what and for us people who do have experience on scams then its better to alert and remind the public about it because there are still noobs whom do still get victimized into this one. On the thing that had been illustrated in op about earning on ponzi sites in spite of the big risk involved then its really risky because you wouldnt know on when it would ran away neither you can still make up some withdrawal or not. Discussing such ponzi schemes and other fraud in the forum, we also help newcomers. They can read what more experienced forum users do to get much less chances to be scammed by fraudsters. Personally, I believe that the most effective method to avoid scam is to invest in those projects, about which there are many useful reviews on the forum. The same is true for games on gambling sites. |
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I never really gambled in a ponzi scheme I think, I lost some money on fake online casinos a few years back. But I think they weren't ponzi schemes, they were outright scams. People can definitely make money on a ponzi scheme if they invest in the beginning and get out before the company goes bankrupt. In general I would advice against such gambles because you never know when the bubble is going to burst.
There are a lot of scammers around us and they are constantly inventing different ways to steal our money. They can be and ponzi schemes and gambling sites that are not aimed at long-term work. There are many ways to steal our money, so all projects and sites should be treated with suspicion and always look for feedback about them on the Internet. |
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The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income.
Did you ever heard about planetwin365 sportsbets gambling platform ? With the pandemic, the company turn the website into an online gaming interface where gamblers can still bet their chances in new online games. It was a wise step to avoid the infection of the pandemic. I would think why all those casinos didn't thought about something similar instead of fire employments. When the workers leave, this is the worst sign the company isn't to be trusted by anybody . Any casino can create a site for gambling. However, this will not save the dismissed employees, because they still can not all work as a support service or technical staff site. Therefore, if the casino has a seriously reduced number of visitors, they will not avoid layoffs. They could certainly pay at least part of their salary, but this could eventually lead to the bankruptcy of the casino. And so the workers have a chance to be hired again once the pandemic is over. The employees will certainly have to look for a new job after they are fired, but the responsible employer will have to pay a good severance package when they are fired. |
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DISCLAIMER: Я являюсь переводчиком темы баунти кампании и не несу никакой ответственности за негативные последствия которые она может принести. Прежде чем принять участие - изучайте проект и много думайте.Оригинальная тема с баунти кампанией, все пруфы, отчеты и вопросы следует постить там. Автор темы: Extons Official ANN тема: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263768.Баунти кампания Extons управляется командой BountyWRM!
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‼️Очень важное примечание‼️
Начиная с пятой стадии, внесены следующие изменения:
1. Награда в TRON(TRX) будет заменена на награду в токенах TONS в следующих случаях:
Топ-10 участников Youtube Campaign получат по 30 $ TONS каждый.
Топ 10 участников Article/Blog Campaign получат по 30$ TONS каждый.
Топ-10 участников Facebook Campaign получат по 15$ TONS каждый.
Например: Если 1 TONS = 70 TRON = 2 USDT то Топ 10 участников Youtube & Articles Campaigns получат по 30$/2$= 15 TONS, Facebook Campaign получат по 7.5 TONS.
Если в конце стадии 1 TONS = 0.5 USDT то Топ 10 участников Youtube & Articles Campaigns получат по 30$/0.5$= 60 TONS, Facebook Campaign получат по 30 TONS.
Вы можете обменять токены TONS на TRON здесь: https://justswap.io/#/scan/detailtrx/THgLniqRhDg5zePSrDTdU9QwY8FjD9nLYt
Вы также можете ходлить токены TONS с прицелом на их будущий рост. В этом есть смысл, потому что цена TONS растет день ото дня.
2. Добавлены новые задачи для Article/Blog Campaign & Youtube Campaign:
- Обзор/вводная информация о TONS DeFi
- Справка о: https://t.me/thisoption
*Вознаграждение в TRON для участников KOL & Influencer Campaign будет выплачено в конце кампании.Таблица с вознаграждениями TRON (Spreadsheet): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19169qvzehDA351LlKn0qV6cHrWp11bIIiAjq-N0e0iA/edit#gid=2073053615Распределение Баунти Spreadsheet: HERE!Основные правила● Присоединитесь к нашему телеграмм каналу: https://t.me/s/thisoption
● Вопросы по баунти кампании можно задать в этом канале: https://t.me/joinchat/T0Jq4RlOXdOlSQCYV-8_5g
● Использование нескольких аккаунтов, спам и читерство запрещено.
● Баунти менеджер и команда проекта оставляют за собой право менять условия кампании.
● Баунти менеджер имеет право отказать вам в участии в кампании без объяснения причинПожалуйста опубликуйте пруф пост перед тем как принять участие в кампании (пост следует размещать в оригинальной теме):#Proof of Joined
Bitcointalk username:
Campaign to Apply:  Лимит: 500 участниковФорма для регистрации: https://forms.gle/KsRU1uTHqygJVrqz6Задачи:
- Создайте 2 твита о торговой платформе Extons с хештегами #Extons #TONS #Thisoption #Crypto #exchange (Можно создавать твиты на любом языке)
- Лайкните и ретвитните 3 поста из твиттера Thisoption: https://twitter.com/thisoption
*Между каждым твитом/ретвитом должен пройти минимум 1 час!
Вознаграждение:
500-1999 фолловеров: 10 стаков в неделю
2000-3999 фолловеров: 15 стаков в неделю
4000+ фолловеров: 20 стаков в неделю
Отчет: Еженедельный отчет должен быть опубликован во вторник до 23:59 по времени форума (GMT+0)
Не нужно цитировать предыдущие отчеты. Старые отчеты редактировать запрещено
Отправляйте новый отчет каждую неделю (в оригинальной теме):Twitter week #10
Twitter Profile URL:
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После записи вас в спредшит число фолловеров изменению не подлежит.
Аккаунты с ненастоящими фолловерами будут дисквалифицированы.Spreadsheet: HERE! Лимит: 500 УчастниковБонусное вознаграждение TRON: каждые две недели, 10 набравшие больше стаков в Facebook Campaign получат 750 TRON каждый (если больше чем 10 человек наберут одинаковое количество стаков, то награду получат те, кто присоединился к кампании раньше. *Примечание: Каждый участник Facebook Campaign может получить бонусное вознаграждение в TRON только один раз за кампанию)Регистрационная форма: https://forms.gle/pJTPwR5w6wuSkbPd9Задачи
- Создайте 2 поста о торговой платформе Extons с хештегами #Extons #TONS #Thisoption #Crypto #exchange (Можно создавать посты на любом языке)
- Лайкните и репостните 3 поста из Фэйсбука Thisoption: https://www.facebook.com/thisoptionexchange/
*Между каждым постом/репостом должен пройти минимум 1 час!
Вознаграждение:
500-1999 друзей/фолловеров: 10 стаков в неделю
2000-3999 друзей/фолловеров: 15 стаков в неделю
4000+ друзей/фолловеров: 20 стаков в неделю
Бонусное задание:
- Создайте пост о Thisoption или проекте Extons в любой группе связанной с криптовалютами (крипто/ Бинарными опционами/ торговле монетами/ICO )
- Можно создать максимум 2 таких поста в неделю, и за каждый пост вы получите 10 бонусных стаков!
Отчет: Еженедельный отчет должен быть опубликован во вторник до 23:59 по времени форума (GMT+0)
Не нужно цитировать предыдущие отчеты. Старые отчеты редактировать запрещено.
Отправляйте новый отчет каждую неделю (в оригинальной теме):Facebook week #1
Facebook Profile URL:
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Каждый ваш пост должен быть публичным.
После записи вас в спредшит число друзей/фолловеров изменению не подлежит.
Аккаунты с ненастоящими друзьями/фолловерами будут дисквалифицированы.Spreadsheet: HERE! Лимит 500 принятых статей Бонусное вознаграждение TRON: каждые две недели, 10 авторов лучших статей Article/Blog Campaign получат 1500 TRON(TRX) каждый.Задачи:
Напишите обзор о торговой платформе Extons www.extons.io или о бинарной бирже Thisoption https://thisoption.com/.
Напишите обзор о "TONS Saving Program": https://www.extons.io/saving
Ваша статья должна содержать минимум 300 слов и две ссылки на наши сайты (Extons.io, Thisoption.com), а также ссылку на наш официальный телеграмм канал.
Отчет о ваших работах нужно публиковать как показано на шаблоне ниже:Media Article/Blog Campaign
Week #1
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Вознаграждение:
Нормальное качество: 10-20 стаков
Среднее качество: 30-40 стаков
Высокое качество: 50-80 стаков
Превосходное качество: 100-200 стаков
Правило:
1. Ваша статья/артикль/пост в блоге должны содержать минимум 300 слов.
2. Весь контент должен быть оригинальным и высокого качества.
3. Максимум 3 поста в неделю, максимум 4 репоста на одно сообщение (25% стака за репост).
4. Статья должна иметь ссылку на ваш Биткоинталк профиль, две ссылки на наши сайты (Extons.io, Thisoption.com), а также ссылку на наш официальный телеграмм канал.
5. Только баунти менеджер решает принять вашу работу или нет.
6. Баунти менеджер имеет право менять существующие правила или вводить новые.Spreadsheet: HERE! Лимит 500 принятых видеороликовБонусное вознаграждение TRON: каждые две недели, 10 авторов лучших видеороликов Youtube Campaign получат 1500 TRON(TRX) каждый.Задачи:
Создайте 3-8 минутный видеоролик с обзором торговой платформы Extons www.extons.io и бинарной биржи Thisoption https://thisoption.com/ или "TONS Saving Program": https://www.extons.io/savingwithin .
Ваш ютуб канал должен иметь минимум 100 подписчиков, каждое видео должно содержать в описании две ссылки на наши сайты, а также ссылку на наш официальный телеграмм канал.
Отчет о проделанной работе публикуйте (в оригинальной теме) как указано в шаблоне:Затем заполните эту форму: https://forms.gle/Wsao5cZmRfFa68mGA
Вознаграждение:
Нормальное качество: 10-20 стаков
Среднее качество: 30-40 стаков
Высокое качество: 50-80 стаков
Превосходное качество: 100-200 стаков
Бонусные стаки за просмотры ваших видеороликов:
50 просмотров= 1 бонусный стак.
Бонусные стаки будут подсчитаны по окончании кампании.
Правила:
1. Продолжительность видеороликов должна быть не менее 3 минут. Вы должны иметь минимум 100 подписчиков и все ваши ролики должны быть оригинальными и иметь высокое качество.
2. Максимум 3 видеоролика в неделю.
3. В описании к ролику должна быть указана ссылка на наши сайты, а также ссылка на наш официальный телеграмм канал
4. Баунти менеджер решает принять ваш видеоролик или нет.
5. Баунти менеджер имеет право менять существующие правила или вводить новые.
6. Подпишитесь на Ютуб канал Thisoption's https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6ufyQv-hs5BcUx6j0q70Q?view_as=subscriber
Spreadsheet: HERE! 200000 TRON (TRX) будут выделены на KOL & Influencer campaign
Если вы KOL (Key Opinion Leader) или Инфлюенсер, вы можете зарегистрироваться здесь: https://forms.gle/SSniooVV4HFEvz8q7
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At the same time we saw the boost in the gaming revenues: Macau’s gross gaming revenue (GGR) dropped by 90% in September but rose by 229% month-on-month in October. The Individual Visit Scheme resumed mid-September and helped boost the economy in a small way, however, the country expects the tourist arrivals for 2020 to drop by 90%. The growth of income from games occurs only against the background of September. If you compare this figure with October 2019, it will not be in favor of October 2020. That is why we had to send workers on unpaid leave. Casino is not a place that is vital to people during the pandemic, so many refuse to visit, which affects casino income. |
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By participating in ponzi schemes you can harm not only yourself, but also other people. Some people can't understand the danger of such projects. They may see that other people are involved in a project and will feel that it is safe to participate. However, this is not the case.
Please, if you know that a project is a ponzi scheme, do not participate, even if you think you can earn money and leave before it falls apart.
Better to avoid it and find another income if the person is eagerly waiting for easy money by participating in Ponzi schemes. There are groups of people work hard to find the newly launched Ponzi schemes and invest a small amount for the test, they look for the new website intentionally because the chances are lower they will close business and run away. At least 4-6 months will be enough to leave this "business model", from my understanding. For me here it is important to know whether a person understands what he invests in a ponzi scheme or not. If a person is sure that it is a ponzi scheme and invests in it in the hope of earning money from the last investors, I condemn it. If a person also agitates others to take part in a ponzi scheme, it may even be worthy of a red tag in the trust. |
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Some of the Gambling casinos I've seen are requiring its user to conduct a KYC (not mandatory but they said there's a chance or something) however my concern is that the gambling casino is not licensed are you going to trust this or not? Imagine winning a big jackpot and they asked for you to conduct KYC but they are not licensed.
Say no to gambling sites that want to get your KYC. Let them provide KYC with the data of their owners and complete information about their legal entity. You can only show your documents in a regular casino, when you know that no one will copy or sell them. |
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At the past, I am risking my money in this kind of ponzi sheme scams. I am very eager at that time in looking for a fresh ponzi
scheme sites as their is a big chance that they will pay the first investor and this is what we are taking advantage of at that time.
But as of this moment, I am now avoiding this kind of investment as it is very risky and it's not right and if you cannot hit the right timing then
your money will be in danger.
By participating in ponzi schemes you can harm not only yourself, but also other people. Some people can't understand the danger of such projects. They may see that other people are involved in a project and will feel that it is safe to participate. However, this is not the case. Please, if you know that a project is a ponzi scheme, do not participate, even if you think you can earn money and leave before it falls apart. |
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I have read several such "allegations of fraud". In fact, they were "confessions of stupidity". However, as a rule, such users do not understand that they themselves are guilty of not reading the Terms of Use. We should mention as often as possible in our posts that no one gives bonuses for nothing and with each bonus issued there are obligations to play the right number of games or make the same amount of bets. Perhaps this will save some newcomers from "confessions of stupidity".
It would not be hard for them to know that if they will make a research first before depositing to a casino to avail the bonus. What they only read is the small sentence which attracts most gamblers to play, but the rest of that are the real terms and condition they have to comply before they can avail that. It's so tricky but that is how marketing works for casino and it's not illegal so we can't blame them. Of course, you could have asked gambling sites to place an additional warning about the conditions of receiving and withdrawing the bonus. However, when registering on the site each user agrees to the terms of use, which means that he had to read them to agree. |
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I find two reasons for the losing on sports betting. By the time it is true that sports betting has got higher winning percentage compared to casinos. - Most of the time gamblers have the mentality to bet on the higher odds. It is evident opponent has the highest chance of winning based on stats and team power, but the odd selection made on luck out of winning big causes loss.
- Everytime the gambler experience a loss, he/she tries to recover the loss on the consecutive match. Here the important thing, the odds were selected on luck as they don't have any information about the players and the team. This game is being played only to recover the loss happened in the previous game. Here the luckiest win while others continue losing.
I don't know what the reason for the other players' losses is. You may have named one of them. I will share with you the reasons for my losses in soccer betting. As a rule, if teams play where there is a clear favorite, then his victory has a very small coefficient. I made multibets on such matches to increase the odds and at the same time to keep high bets on victory. However, one loss was enough for me to lose all my money. For example, the team on which I bet quickly gained the necessary number of points to leave the group and by the time of the last game they did not need to spend a lot of effort and they took out not the best players to the match and because of this played in a draw. |
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Just many people are looking for sites with gambling primarily by the size of the bonus that is given for registration on the site or for the first deposit. The rules of course no one reads. Then these people outraged that they can not withdraw their bonus and the site requires them to make a certain number of bets or there are other conditions.
That's very common, some newbie gamblers got easily attach to the promising promotion without reading the entire rules, they think that winning is easy and they have not thought that casinos are not really giving free money, so when they found out late, they outrage and instead of blaming their stupidity, they blame the gambling sites for it, it's very common here, you can see a lot of users posting "scam accusations". I have read several such "allegations of fraud". In fact, they were "confessions of stupidity". However, as a rule, such users do not understand that they themselves are guilty of not reading the Terms of Use. We should mention as often as possible in our posts that no one gives bonuses for nothing and with each bonus issued there are obligations to play the right number of games or make the same amount of bets. Perhaps this will save some newcomers from "confessions of stupidity". |
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i won't participate on such thing, i haven't encountered yet a ponzi in gambling actually i was wondering how was that? for what i have known the ponzi scheme is more related to investment stuff and the likes.
The Ponzi scheme itself may be called an analogue of gambling. This refers to cases where a person knows how this scheme can end and contributes his money to it in the hope that he will return his money in a few days and will continue to receive only profit. Gambling in this is that a person can not be sure that he will return at least his deposit. |
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The wagering requirements are a trap and designed to force the gamblers to lose more, IMHO. Otherwise, it is pointless to throw away free money just for sake of promotion. Bonus abusers are not welcome on famous gambling platforms and they know which sites have the strict requirements gainst bonus hunters. Sportsbook bonuses are not there only for motivating the gamblers, some bookies attract gamblers with bonuses and they offer the deposit bonuses in the casino section of the website in order to ask for higher wagering requests.
Why the wagering requirements this is a trap? You get a bonus that you need to earn. If you are lucky, you will get both a bonus and a win on bets. If you are unlucky, you will lose your bonus. In the end, if you find something similar to a trap in the rules and you are not satisfied with it, you can find another gambling site. That's it. And it gives no reason to stay if the site looks suspicious and leaving is the only way to make ourselves safe to a worse case. But I don't find it was a trap, wagering requirenment might be optional for us to take or not. However, I don't think that was a means of trap because almost all gambling sites have giving it as a giveaway and everyone could enjoy it without pressure. I'm just doubted how the site that you've visited pushing you to use it as a requirement which I think is not and we skip for it if we don't want to use it. Just many people are looking for sites with gambling primarily by the size of the bonus that is given for registration on the site or for the first deposit. The rules of course no one reads. Then these people outraged that they can not withdraw their bonus and the site requires them to make a certain number of bets or there are other conditions. |
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А вот и подвезли ответы на некоторые вопросы. Вчера вышел их финансовый отчет за 3 квартал этого года, а также статейка с анонсами. Там говорится, что для всех крипто сервис от Paypal станет доступен в 2021 году, а для всех жителей США в этом месяце(сейчас доступ открыт только 10% жителей). Были увеличены недельные лимиты на покупку крипты, с $10 000 до $15 000. Также в следующем году станет доступен сервис мобильных платежей Venmo и будет осуществлена поддержка центробанковских цифровых валют. Они затребовали разрешение у СЕК или это только их самостоятельное решение? А то эта вездесущая организация может внести коррективы в их планы  Или пока они будут продавать обещания под видом настоящих Биткоинов их трогать не будут? |
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