Proposal: Dash World: Evolution in MarketingDash Chat Slack(open to all for real time chatting): https://digitalcash.slack.com/messages/dashworld/This Proposal joins our efforts into a needed structure with the technical, sociological and innovative side of the Dash Project. It places all creative energy on the boat that sails in one direction and spreads the message. It aims at creating excitement without and within. It does not want for many a valuable project to linger in a limbo alone, trying to find its place under the sun on by itself, its gives everyone and every effort a space in the Dash World: Micro-economy of Dash it, we strive to create. Sounds very exciting! Do I have to somehow register for the Slack? If you click the link it should send you to a registration screen which requests an email and password to register. If that link doesn't automatically get you to the registration page, this one should. https://dashchat.herokuapp.com/ |
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Proposal: Dash World: Evolution in MarketingGreyghost asked me to post an announcement here since he does not have bitcointalk account. He submitted a clearly well thought out marketing and SEO proposal called Dash World: Evolution in Marketing. I would encourage you to visit Dashtalk, Dashwhale, or Dash Chat Slack for further discussion. Dashtalk: https://dashtalk.org/threads/dash-world-evolution-in-marketing-budget-proposal.8259/#post-87678Dashwhale: https://www.dashwhale.org/p/DashWorldDash Chat Slack(open to all for real time chatting): https://digitalcash.slack.com/messages/dashworld/Formatted pdf version: http://tinyurl.com/zzqu8ubSUMMARY Dash World: Evolution in Marketing places all strategic efforts under one umbrella with the clear focus on Dash’s three main advantages and promotes Dash as: - An exciting, permissionless investment opportunity, via its MN network,
- The perfect digital cash for the emerging P2P decentralized economy;
- As enabler of our right to privacy via its revolutionary PrivacyProtect (formerly DarkSend) feature.
Tactical steps: - Marketing focuses on specific areas such as:
-- Masternodes as an investment,
-- Dash’s property as digital cash,
-- PrivacyProtect (a.k.a. DarkSend) by creating “stories” around each revolutionary feature Dash Project represents.
- SEO (Google search optimizing) work fixes dash.org weaknesses such as
-- Meta Tags that are now lacking (these are shown as snippets in Google search results);
-- Schema micro-data implementation (structuring the information);
-- Meta tags in foreign languages (with the help of the Foundation):
- An outside marketing company helps with:
-- marketing audit;
-- positioning Dash in weekly media;
-- press contacts,
-- events & conferences organization (speaking engagements),
-- Reddit and other community outreach avenues;
- Working internally to develop the new products to be a part of the emerging P2P crypto economy Dash should be able to power as its currency with marketing that further drives development and merchant adoption.
This Proposal joins our efforts into a needed structure with the technical, sociological and innovative side of the Dash Project. It places all creative energy on the boat that sails in one direction and spreads the message. It aims at creating excitement without and within. It does not want for many a valuable project to linger in a limbo alone, trying to find its place under the sun on by itself, its gives everyone and every effort a space in the Dash World: Micro-economy of Dash it, we strive to create.
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Thanks,
Any odds I can get my coins out from there? Which online wallet can I try transfer to?
Thanks........ I should have checked.
Unfortunately, dash-wallet.com is a scam site. There are no online wallets for dash(except an exchange). Only download wallets from the official site: dash.org. Here are the other wallet sites that are most likely scams too.  |
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TDD - "hashocracy" vs othersA basic network of proof-of-work miners -- a "hashocracy" -- is the governance model of Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Dogecoin, & Monero. There are two other networks, however, which are evolving and/or overhauling the hashocracy model: Dash & Bitshares. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQGlcLFhwE0 Amanda says we are a mix of meritocracy and hashocracy. I think we need a new name. Investocracy. The masternode 'investors' make the decisions. It certainly isn't from achievements that the proposals get voted in....unless we consider the 1000 question dashtalk proposal threads a skill course in nerves and charisma that is awarded with a winning budget proposal. |
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Using bitcoin for larger transactions is the way bitcoin can be utilized best - because that's where the biggest savings are....You can't save people those billions by throwing away your advantage and doing microtransactions, buying coffees. I think that's why core are not wanting to rush to change the blocksize - they want to push up the fees and thats exactly what's happening. They see the Lightning network as funnelling all the microtransaction stuff into bucket-size transactions to be cleared on the blockchain. That whole approach to scaling wasn't really part of the bitcoin vision I don't think and it's become a bit of a mish-mash - Satoshi vision of electronic cash now being shoe-horned into Western Union. Let's look at what the fees for Bitcoin need to be to maintain the same network when the block rewards stop. 1 block(25 bitcoins) created every 10 minutes. For each minute, 2.5 bitcoins are created X $400/bitcoin = $1000/minute. So every minute $1000 in fees needs to come from transactions (instead of the block rewards today) Using 5 transactions/sec as maximum speed. We have 300 transactions each minute. $1000/300 transactions = $3.33 per transaction. The bitcoin transaction fee will get to this $3.33 fee eventually (assuming 1mb blocks, and electricity spent on mining is the same) Let's say a credit card transaction fee is 3%. So a $100 transaction is actually cheaper with a credit card than with a $3.33 fee. The crossover point is $111. What does this mean? Microtransactions would now to be in the $100+ range. This takes out all the slock.it, microdonations, tip bots, etc. Pretty much eliminates point of sale purchases and puts Bitpay out of business. Can you see the problem? All these companies were setup with the idea with low fees and mass adoption. It is an existential problem. Bitcoin exists with low fees and mass adoption, but with mass adoption will incur high fees... What would bitcoin eventually be useful for? Bank wires/western union - maybe. I don't see this ending well for bitcoin without increasing the block size. Or the other way to look at Bitcoin is if the maximum fee people want is 5 cents, which is $150 in transactions every 10 minutes. So there will only be about .375 bitcoins instead of 25 bitcoins in fees. So the network drops to 1.5% of what it is today, ouch! |
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I still don't think he 'gets' it. Once you can take out a loan with negative interest, fiat loses it's value. There is no reason to ever pay the loan back. A negative interest rate isn't just a temporary indicator that will bounce back. His statement, "Luckily the banks are not charging average customers with negative interest rates.", is misleading. Banks will use the monthly maintenance fee to implement the equivalent of negative rates. Eventually, customers will leave as this fee increases. |
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And maybe they learn that Bitcoin is a pain in the ass, is unreliable and complicated, and go elsewhere.
I'm not saying that the system has failed or that it will definitely fail. I'm saying that it is starting to fail right now, because there is a mismatch between the infrastructure and user-education requirements of the system and its ability to function effectively. That is absolutely the case. At best it is poor planning and deployment.
Bitcoin needs to just accept it can't grow fast enough to do everything for everyone in the entire ecosystem. Satoshi said it was suppose to be a type of Digital Gold, maybe we need to go back to that way of thinking. That's a great accomplishment... but, when you have gold, you don't move it around all of the time. Why can't Bitcoin handle the larger value transactions in the space and all of the alts can handle the smaller day-to-day transactions. The ecosystem is already setup to scale to infinity. Everyone wins. It could, but it is currently out of step with that vision. SPV wallets were built up (in part by Satoshi, by the way) as a way to make the system easily accessible to people making routine transactions including buying coffee and using vending machines (plus many others of course). So you have have many end users doing exactly that, having adopted Bitcoin as a transactional medium, not something limited to high powered bankers and cryptocurrency experts. Perhaps that was a bad idea, but it's too late to erase that from history. That worked just fine until very recently, and now you still have those users trying to transact but without the tools to do so effectively. Even if one fully buys in to your Evolution concept (as one example of several), and believes that Evolution is the way that the ecosystem will scale to infinity, Evolution isn't here. Even Bitcoin wallets with the ability to effectively set fees and increase fees if needed after the fact don't exist in any widely-deployed form. So the whole thing is quite a mess right now. In the future I have no doubt it will get better, but where we are today is not pretty. Either an earlier and more effective push should have been made to get the tools out there faster to manage block space scarcity and shift transactions off the Bitcoin main chain, or there should have been some sort of block size increase to buy the time that is needed. Having done neither is an objectively poor outcome, and therefore one must fairly rate the process of having reached this outcome as ineffective. ...... I just looked at the last few blocks for each of these and we all basically have very low usage. How big can we scale, if the Bitcoin ecosystem were inclusive rather than trying to keep everything to itself? All they have to do is add the rest of the main alternative coins to all of the main sites like Bitstamp, Coinbase, Bitpay, etc. That would allow the free flow of money through the entire ecosystem then, we wouldn't be in this situation at all. The theoretical limitation of the current ecosystem is at least 100-1000x that of the Bitcoin blockchain at this point and it will expand much faster and deal with the exponential growth much better than they will because they're a million programmers out here just waiting for the opportunity. ....... Bitcoin will continue to have transaction fees increase unless they have some big changes fast. This will force all low value transactions out. It will be something like this, where transactions lower than these amounts would be better to use fiat/credit cards. $1 or less will only be reasonable with a 24hr wait. $5 or less will be reasonable with a 10-30 minute wait. Dash should be promoting low cost transactions(under $5) with InstantX - low fee and no wait. This seems like the perfect opportunity to take this market share. So how do we do that? Maybe we should ask for some budget proposals to implement these: - Tip and donation services
- Dice and other Games.
- Online content - downloads.
- Web plugins that use Dash
- Purse.io with Dash
I don't think you can just add a coin to Coinbase, Bitpay, etc. They are totally setup for Bitcoin with licensing, wallets, nodes, etc. Adding a coin is going to require a way to trade between and adapt to the new coin. Plus they have investors that paid based on Bitcoin functionality. Part of the issue is so much money went into services for Bitcoin without thinking about alternatives. Maybe I am wrong... I hope I am. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Dogecoin(bitclones) are not fungible so they don't work with the free flowing sharing concept. Governments will track these and could require exchanges(think Coinbase) to track them too. Eventually these coins will be stopped/avoided/taxed. I think the long term solution is a decentralized exchange. OpenBazzar just released their testing release. I see this as the future. The long term crypto(s) will be fungible and able to adapt and grow. I know of one that fit's the bill. |
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back to DASH mixing....
so i tried to send out an ix transaction while i was mixing and the ix failed. it did get sent and made it but without ix.
the wallet has not crashed again but the mixing seems to be stuck now. it says it found unconfirmed outputs and is waiting for them to confirm. it shows a "conflicted" transaction with "darksend denominate" in the "type" box.
i may have screwed it up doing that transaction while trying to mix or maybe something else is wrong on my end. i've never had all these problems before, even my email is acting up.
not sure if i should wait or start it over again. i got some shows i want to dl so i may just try again tomorrow so my torrent client and peerblock does not cause problems.
when is version 12.1 coming out?
I also have a problem keeping a dash wallet running to mix in windows - usually crashes in 1 - 2 hrs. I think it is a display driver crashing. I have had the same problem with win7 with an i5 and a win8 with an i7 and two different monitors. I also see the screen blank for a second about 15 minutes after turning on. So I know I have a driver problem on two separate machines. Rather than spend 80 hrs googling and coding a hack for windows, I just use one of my linux servers to mix my coins. It could also be a program conflict, but reinstalling windows isn't of interest to me. (No this isn't a screen saver or simple power setting that shuts something down.) If you send a transaction while mixing and it used one of the inputs, my guess is it would stop mixing when it finds a conflicted transaction. You will probably need to restart your wallet and try a mix again. 12.1 is in testing and you could download from github but I think you need to compile for windows. The big change is the multirequest mixing which should speed up mixing. You will still wait for unconfirmed inputs (basically you are sending 0 fee transactions and are waiting for this to get in a block). Really, windows 10? Sounds risky. You can disable the upgrade to windows 10 advertising nag box. Best of luck...I feel your pain, but I don't think windows 10 is the answer. |
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I forked a bitcoin QR code generator a while ago and modified it for Dash. It now has a dedicated domain name ( https://dashqr.org/) and I finally got around to uploading the site and getting an SSL certificate for the new domain yesterday. Everything seems to be working as it should, hopefully it can be of use to some of you. Donations are most welcome, the address can be found on the site.  Looks great. Just a suggestion...Maybe you can add the amount, label, and message fields similar to how the wallet does it. |
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Script altcoins plummet because there wasn't good inovation, when ASICs are intorduced.
X11 ASIC would just replace GPU miners. DASH's core character is masternode.
After pump, ...direct dump always in altcoin world.
With bitcoin the ASICs caused a huge increase in bitcoin price. I guess it could also be the rise in price that caused the ASIC production. The scrypt algo was targeted to be ASIC resistant. As soon as an ASIC was designed, this benefit was lost. That was likely the cause for the drop. |
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384Mhash for ~$2100. 10 months to break even at 6000 difficulty $.10 power 25+ to break even at 12k diff and $.10 power. (according to Coin Warz calculator)  I'm sure your numbers are right. But I think you are assuming there will be no virtuous cycle provided by a more secure blockchain. A Chinese company committed time and people and money to design, tapeout, manufacture, characterize, and bring into production an IC that is dedicated to mining X11 secured blockchains. This is capital intensive work. This is not rolleyes. This is a vote of confidence in the future of DASH. This a less efficient 152nm chip design than the typical 32nm, 25nm and now 16nm designs with bitcoin miners. But this does open the door to improve efficiency later which the manufacture indicated. The efficiency numbers still look pretty far out for payback, but this one machine can replace 10s of GPUs rigs. This is a good time to be in Dash. |
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I guess so shows a balance of 3000 coins. I made new addresess and sent them to a new wallet, in order to be hosted and set up for the MN. If I try to transfer that or any amount it says insufficient funds.
masternode start-many command works from my wallet, the hoster asks me to input that whenever there is maintenance or upgrades etc. So for sure my wallet is controlling it all. masternode stop does nothing despite it being the first google search on dashtalk.org.
MN start or stop has nothing to do with withdrawals. You just open that 3 wallets and use them, but first use coin control to unlock ( all 3 )? You may have to enable coin control in settings. Also I think you use toggle coin control and it will unlock all 1000 inputs and lock all non 1000 inputs. |
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I guess I will have to jump in and give this a try to show the Masternode Count vs $/Dash Price. Not too good at chart stuff. But I do see a correlation between the highs and masternode count drops. Looks like it lags a little. Or maybe the correlation is the fall in masternodes that causes the price dip.  |
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Now take a look at this:  Lets examine what's going on here for a moment. The one consistent trend that's been almost uninterrupted for the last 2 years is a growth in the reserve market. i.e. the number of positions which investors have purchased to gain a return on their earnings (or to enjoy the benefits of holding a masternode position with voting rights etc - whatever). Toknormal, Could you make that same chart but with a US$/Dash chart instead of the BTC/Dash price? This chart doesn't account for the fluctuations in US$/bitcoin. I think you will see this line up much better with a US$/Dash chart. |
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Distributed Governance by Investment with Superior Swarm Intelligence
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Hello! The budget system was finalized and at the time these three proposals were not established (All three were submitted too late). Budgets must be submitted at least 24 hours before the budget system in finalized. This means they must be submitted 3 days before the budgets are paid out. v12.1 Improvements: - I am going to add some warnings to v12.1 when you add a proposal to let the proposer know they should move the budget proposal to the next month if they're within that finalization period. - We also need to vote on if we want to support contracts in the new system, I'll put a proposal up before I begin work on that next week Sorry for the confusion, but it's not a bug, everything is working great  Rango is going to change Dashwhale.org so it doesn't allow you to create a proposal with a date sooner than 3 days before a budget payout. - Thanks Rango. Evan, The command to prepare a proposal burns 5 Dash and it also has the block(date) coded into it. Instead of just a warning, can you reject that command so the Dash are not burned if it has a date sooner than 3 days in advance? Then give a nice warning that says the payout date is too soon. |
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Anyone else experiencing stability issues with their masternodes at the moment? Mine have been bulletproof for months but the last couple of weeks I'm constantly restarting them etc. I haven't made any changes to the underlying system. Has something on the network changed?
Walter
Quite possibly. I had a reliable masternode (16+ weeks of uptime) go down twice in one day, which is very unusual. I reviewed my firewall settings and realized I was not filtering some incoming traffic properly. There could be malicious users out there trying to bang on masternode IPs, looking for exploits. So I would recommend closing all the ports you don't need. That's a good point... It's quite likely that someone is scanning masternode IP's, then searching each server for open ports. If someone found open ports, they might be trying to brute force crack your password, which could look like a DDOS attack, slowing your server, possibly crashing the masternode... How much ram does your masternode have available? The budget system is being used pretty actively, that could possibly be taking up more memory. I'll check on the ram thing. I created a large 2Gb swap file around 10 months ago on my servers as I only had around 768Mb RAM and running 3 MNs on each server. Might be causing the problem.. Walter Thanks for your help guys. Masternodes are stable now apart from one last issue... One of them keeps going offline but the daemon continues to run fine, I do a remote masternode start-alias from my cold wallet and that fixes it for a couple of hours (don't need to do anything with the daemon on the server). Then it drops off again an hour or two later. It's persistantly happening with one masternode. All others are running fine now. Any ideas? Cheers Walter Walter, Are you sure all the private keys are correct/unique in your masternode.dat? I would suggest creating a new private key(masternode genkey) for server/local wallets and updating your masternode.dat. Check that your IP is correct too. You also need to make sure you are forwarding and have open the 9999 and 9998 ports. It sounds like you are local starting your node, instead of the server picking it up. |
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Why would you want to make it more difficult for people who have invested a lot of money in Dash to vote? I don't see the benefit.
In answer to your question, people who have invested a lot in masternodes get a lot of dash paid in masternode payments so its not like you are hurting them. If it were possible to have only one vote per person instead of per masternode, the idea I guess is that the little people get more influence in the direction of Dash which might serve as a way to prevent too much power accumulating to those few wealthy elites at the top of the Dash pyramid. If you get my meaning (oops did an edit instead of reply by accident, have lost the original comment I had here  ) Perhaps jus cap the votes per person? like 50 votes per masternode owner is plenty.... this doesn't need to be an uphill battle... and yea, you old comment is gone. While it seems that a larger masternode holder has too much power with the voting system, it is still proportional to everyone else. So those 100 masternodes are still 100x the investment as 1 masternode. The concept is the more you risk in collateral the more influence you have in voting. Slowing down how an owner votes with limited commands or maximum votes at a time isn't going to change the result of a vote since you still have 24 hours minimum to vote. Now we could throw in some hanging chads...then this would get interesting. http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2008/01/17/the-legacy-of-hanging-chads |
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If anyone is interested why I am only suggesting we try at most 3 month budget contracts.....This is why. I am also seeing similar opinions from others of the same caliber. Stock Market "Last Gasp" Moment May Be About To Occur, Severe Sell Off Coming. By Gregory Mannarino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-3TlPz9T8g |
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I am not talking about a specific budget proposal, I am talking about splitting up any large one into smaller pieces (by way of proposal caps) doesn't change the amount of room they take up in the total budget.
Example #1:
total budget available: 1000 dash
big project: 900 dash
small project: 100 dash
Example #2:
total budget available: 1000 dash (with 300 dash limit per proposal)
big project(part 1): 300 dash
big project(part 2): 300 dash
big project(part 3): 300 dash
small project: 100 dash
If people want to vote YES for the big project, it takes up the same amount of room with or without caps.
There is a valid benefit here. If you are trying to get funding for a project and don't necessarily need the full amount each month. Splitting it in 3 is preferred. If a chunk doesn't fit the budget only that 300 is lost. Not the full 900. |
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