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Bump.
Yochdog is currently giving me the best offer (you do have the Avalon in hands right now, it is not a preorder right?)
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I will probably do an auction for this offer. Someone agreed for 250 BTC. So I will do it for him at this amount, unless someone is willing to loan it for 249 BTC or less (1 BTC increments work well I guess)
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Hum, I am getting quite a few offers, I may reduce the deal from 250 to 200 BTC. Still a reasonable offer IMHO.
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Oh, I do have the 250 BTC (and a lot more than that).
John: wasn't sure which subforum best fit my thread. Move it if you want.
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Have an Avalon (in your hands, not a preorder)? Are you in the USA? Want to lend it to me? I will pay 200-250 BTC to physically borrow your Avalon for 90 days. What I will do: - I will open it up and probe PCBs and components with an oscilloscope and multimeter - I will measure dimensions and weight of all internal components - 90 days later, I return you the Avalon, and you keep the 200-250 BTC This is all for a project that I will reveal more information about later. Why you can trust me: - my identity is public: see my website http://zorinaq.com- I am an old trusted member, I joined the forums in December 2010 - I sold tens of thousand of dollars of mining hardware with great reviews: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122187.5- I have great ratings on bitcoin-otc (user mrb_): http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mrb_&sign=ANY&type=RECV- I will personally do the work on your Avalon in my electronics lab, no third-party risks - I have collateral to re-imburse you or give you equivalent hardware, in case my probing renders your Avalon non-functional, namely I have 2 Avalon second batch preorders, 2 Avalon tradeins, 4 BFL Single 60 Gh/s units ordered and paid on June 24, 2012 (in theory I should receive all of this mining hardware in the next 90 days). I can work up an arrangement to plan for what happens exactly in this case. I am in the Los Angeles area and would much prefer travelling to meet you in person and take delivery of it, as opposed to shipping the Avalon. I do not think I want to take the risk of international shipping + customs, so my offer is only for those with Avalon units the USA. Email me at m.bevand at gmail.com |
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Okay, all. Thanks for explaining. I always thought trade-ins applied to existing batch limits. But I too would prefer to trade them in for additional Avalon units.
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Variance will only remain a non-issue if they keep adding hashrate so that they remain at a constant proportion (or increased proportion) of the network. As soon as the their proportion decreases, variance will increase.
friedcat estimates he will average 10% of the network over the next 12 months. If that is true, variance will not be an issue in the next 12 months. |
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You should consider p2pool instead of solo. Your traffic stays local like solo, but your variance is decreased like it would be on a pool.
Come on Diablo, with 8 Th/s, variance is a non-issue. They mine 500+ blocks per month on average. They have more chances of being hit by thunder 10 times than to mine zero blocks during a specific month and being unable to cover their monthly expenditures. p2pool leads to a higher orphan rate than solo mining. Solo mining is obviously the best choice with 8 Th/s. |
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My order number was 1604.
How can this be true? BitPay was doing API tests and during their tests ISTR they created order numbers around 1630-1640. And the first real order numbers for SC's started around 1650-1660: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=89685.0So how can you be 1604? Typo? |
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Price in Bitcoins = ((Hashing power in GH/s) * 155,520,000) / (Current Difficulty) * (1 + (Months to come online from today)))
A 10-chip unit has hashing power of about 2.82 GH/s, and I figure I can have the first condo system running by July, so each condo unit is priced at
2.54 BTC <-- new price per condo unit, minus the cost of your chips
Either your math, or your formula is wrong. The price for a 2.82 Gh/s unit should be, assuming 2 months to come online from today: (2.82*155520000/8974296.01488785)*(1+2) = 146.60 BTC, not 2.54 BTC Your math is wrong, your terminology is confusing, you are not re-assuring people you have EE skills to assemble the chips in functional units, etc... I don't think you will attract any customer this way. |
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melmo, what country do you live in? It may be your postal infrastructure that is slow (eg. I hear from people in russia that it can take 1+ month to receive an international package).
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They received numerous trade in board yet they did not even bother to at least confirm that they received them or to let us know if/when we can pay the difference :/
What do you mean " we can pay the difference"? I ordered Avalon units, paid $1499, sent my trade-ins, so I expect them to pay me the difference, ie. send me $200 per Icarus. |
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I thought about that and put in 2TH for non asics getting turned on in the last month which is a LOT when you figure it out. So, I do not believe you can make a credible argument for 10-12TH/s of GPUs and FPGAs getting turned on in the last 30 days. It took two years to turn on 18TH/s of these.
Actually, yes, it is most likely GPUs. You failed to look at the right historical data. Between May and July 2011, we went from ~1 Thash/s to ~15 Thash/s in just 2 months, and it was 99% GPUs. Because the Bitcoin bubble and publicity is even more intense this time, it is not only plausible, but IMHO the most likely explanation, that 10-12 Thash/s of GPUs went online. |
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Just want to add my own experience:
- I shipped 2 x Icarus from the USA to China on April 24, via UPS, with tracking service (which was apparently optional), with a declared value of $60. I made sure to write "China" as the country of origin on the waybill.
- The 1st delivery attempt failed on April 27: "The driver was unable to collect funds on the 1st delivery attempt. a 2nd delivery attempt will be made. / Delivery rescheduled".
- The 2nd delivery attempt succeeded on April 28.
I don't know what the 1st failure mean. Did Mr. Chen pay import tax duties? Did the driver just not ask for them on the 2nd attempt? Anyway the package was delivered.
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Good eyes spotting gigavps' report. Since my 200 BTC bet with Micon was on the same terms, I seem to have won too  In all fairness to Micon, it is unclear whether gigavps measured 30 Watt himself or not. Personally I am totally fine waiting for a few more reports before claiming my 200 BTC from Micon. |
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Your main issue here is your budget. You won't even find a preorder for anywhere near that price
Actually yes. A Jalapeno preorder only costs $274. Who knows when they will ship, but preorders at this price range do exist. |
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I added another user (hdsolar) who reported receiving his Jalapeno. That's 3 users total so far.
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