There are many victims of Sonny Vleisides and his merry band of crooks. BFL is just now managing to ship a few Jalapeno v0.5's to people that ordered in June of 2012, despite the numerous assurance that BFL had honest abe "scheduled shipments" several times over the past 11 months. The lies are too numerous to count.

None of these newbie accounts defending BFL are even old enough to have been created back when BFL's COO Inblahblah was attacking Tom of BTCFPGA for being too vague about his power specs and insisting that BFL's were solid. Specs that were obviously never measured as BFL had zero chips, by their own admission. That, like nearly everything else Josh Zerlan says turned out to not be true. That supposedly solid power spec of 1w/Gh/s was just more fairy dust nonsense designed to suck the life out of BFL's legitimate competition and trap pre-order funds into a constantly evolving pyramid scam of orders.

Tom has a scammer tag for failure to deliver & deceit, Josh's is long long overdue.

Oh josh..ur ability to try and divert from an issue is really getting played out ...why dont your deliver on your commitments or refund everybodys orders

Your days are numbered and also are the mistreatment of your customers or do u guys call  them "marks"  

Don't worry, it's pretty obvious that's what's going on. They're only whittlng away at what's left of BFL's already horrible reputation.

I think their treatment/behavior is all on record ...these are what are called facts

Sonnys conviction and time spent in prison for FRAUD is a fact...thats about all I have got for u in regards to this as If you want to continue to try and distort reality .....I cant help you... sorry

Sorry Xian, it seems your thread has been taken over by the sockpuppet army.

....yawn... i think these are all facts....

They had a prototype in June/July/August/Sept/Oct ..yeah this is true ...or they finally have a prototype in April 2013

The many documented of you/Josh/Inaba calling his customers cocksuckers/losers the list goes on..I would class that as mistreatment of his customers

Jody holding the I will cancel your orders over peoeples heads if they start to complain..

These are all facts and not opinions ..I understand when u lie so much that all reality starts to blur and this would be hard for u to deal with

For the record

"I do not accept BFL's treatment of there customers"

"I do not accept the continuous lies and fraudulent behavior by BFL"

"I do not accept trying to silence people who have been mistreated by BFL"

What do u stand for again because i am missing your actual point in all of these discussions ??

Wait a minute here... I am reprehensible for standing up for myself getting absolutely terrible treatment as an initial preorder customer over the last 11 months ? For enduring their COO acting completely unprofessionally on these forums and calling him on his behavior ?

I am sorry that you have such low self esteem and say "Why yes please, I would like some more un-lubed sodomy at the hands of Butterfly Labs for not being able to accurately state when my preorder will ship after waiting for 11 months of one broken promise after another."

 Some of us have less tolerance for prolonged bullshit and fight for ourselves when we feel wronged.

 I need to most strenuously disagree with your evaluation and you should feel ashamed that you are willing to be taken advantage of.

Sorry iam old and dont really understand SMS speak or whatever language you are pretending to be using..

To use a phrase that the retard Inaba himself has used in his own defense.

"Well, it's all publicly available information."

And yes, you may send any postcards you wish to the last address. Leave out any anthrax or other dangerous substances, please.

As far as I am concerned you are Inaba.

You used information that was only disclosed by him.

It isn't my friend. You just make it turn out that way.

Almost all the interactions I have had with you were on the basis of practices employed and ethics. Personal didn't enter into it until private information was posted. Guess by who?

Send it to my current address:

http://www.mylife.com/l-joshua-zerlan-e961579999368

Aha, Inaba in disguise.

 I can read quite well in fact.

 I've read enough of your shilling to know there is nothing of substance or anything approaching a rational thought coming out of you in this thread.

 *adds another contestant to his ignore list*

I feel that I put way more into any one of my posts by pasting the output of a lorem ipsum engine than int03h has put into all of his posts together.

Back onto a real conversation. I was hoping you could provide an example of a major online retailer that charges the full amount to your credit card (not just an authorization) for a pre-order.

Here is my post on the subject (sans nonsense)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=207331.msg2270904#msg2270904

U have demontrated on sooooooooooooooooo many occasions of your modus operadi ... u are a recidivist with no chance for rehabilitation

Once a fraud u will always be one... in all parts of your life...some people change but we are talking in the low single figures of percentile ...

Usually from a long period of un-employement u may find your bottom and re-examine your life and the way that you have treated people... i doubt it...good luck with that...as u cast a sad lonely figure in who and what u represent as acceptable...

Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ?

I think that instead of focusing totally on ones self in the "WHATS IN IT FOR ME" gen y mentality ..he chose to bring information and light onto BFL's corrupt business practices

SO yes he did himself out of some cash but also helped the comminity as a whole and maybe even stopped BFL from executeing this type of practice on many others to follow

So what have you provided to the community apart from your abuse and trolling others trying to deal with a difficult situation ??

Oh wait just like inaba u will change your alias and continue to hide from who and what u are... go back to the shadows and have a look closely to find whats in it for me mantra...you are a credit to the community and we certainly need more pple like yourself to help mainstream crypto....lol