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541  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:36:15 AM
I am clearly very dumb.

Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum.  Cheesy

Listen you fucking condescending arsehole ... anyone can't post shit in a language that no-one understands in order to look smarter than someone else.

The weapon of choice today is English. Attempt to use it or fuck off.. dig ?

542  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:31:51 AM
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.
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Date Registered: November 03, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Look at this dude's post history. Had to post today in Newbie to satisfy the ability to get outta jail to shill like a big boy in our sandbox.
I'm sad to say, but if this is truly the game that BFL is playing oppose to spending their efforts on product development, then all them investors are in a rude awakening.

The smell of desperation hangs thick in the air.

yours?

Your demonstrated skills have been noted for time eternal ...good luck finding another job .


P.S Thanks for playing...Good to see that u enjoy the misfortune of others

That's an interesting conclusion to a question that I asked. You could have let me at least judge him before judging me so fiercely ? Don't you think ?
543  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:24:06 AM
I am clearly very dumb.

Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum.  Cheesy

Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
544  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:23:13 AM
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.
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Date Registered: November 03, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Look at this dude's post history. Had to post today in Newbie to satisfy the ability to get outta jail to shill like a big boy in our sandbox.
I'm sad to say, but if this is truly the game that BFL is playing oppose to spending their efforts on product development, then all them investors are in a rude awakening.

The smell of desperation hangs thick in the air.

yours?
545  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:21:28 AM


The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.
Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

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The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.

Your fascination with the word distorted is noted. You have used it at least once in last few posts. You also mentioned NLP a little while back. I am sure there is a link here somewhere... help me figure it out.

I hope you arent fixing hard drives today :
https://plus.google.com/104100515304524528467/about?gl=us&hl=en

Did you get my postcards?

oh shit .. did I let the cat out the bag .. fuck .. ooopss


This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.

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Date Registered: November 03, 2012, 11:21:57 AM

Look at this dude's post history. Had to post today in Newbie to satisfy the ability to get outta jail to shill like a big boy in our sandbox.

I'm sad to say, but if this is truly the game that BFL is playing oppose to spending their efforts on product development, then all them investors are in a rude awakening.



Mission accomplished. Thanks for playing.

I am Josh.

PS : Don't bother looking harder or listening to anything that anyone else may have said - Just run with your stupid and take it where it needs to go .. let it roam free.

546  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
I am not really clear on what it is you were implying

And you never will be. You could get 1000 posts in a day and you would still not understand a thing.

So you refuse to articulate the bet, but continue to talk shit. I see.

You don't understand anything I articulate, remember?  So dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Maecenas lacinia lacinia molestie. Maecenas porttitor consectetur nulla non pretium. Mauris at risus ut leo luctus eleifend.

Sorry I am a noob.. I don't understand .. throw a dog a bone..

Umm .. I believe we were discussing a bet ... you still talking shit .. or is your money where you mouth isn't ?

Have someone explain my post to you. It was clear, concise, and to the point. Moreover, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut at nulla enim, sed pretium odio.

Why don't you do it ? I am clearly very dumb .. break it down for me ..
547  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 26, 2013, 12:06:45 AM
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Do they collect sales tax?

Why the fuck didn't I think of this earlier! Either the pre-orders are considered sales or people of considered investors. It can't be both ways.

On the sales front, if BFL on record in stating that pre-orders are considered sales, somehow nixing the investor aspect?

If sales, then sales tax MUST have been paid to the state of Kansas and Missouri, for they were located in the latter last year.

Now that April 15, has come and gone, I'm wondering if they filed, stating them millions of dollars of gross sales. The IRS does pay a 10% bounty for turning in non-payers.

https://www.kssst.kdor.ks.gov/webLookupResults.cfm

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Combined Code :   OVEJO
Combined Jurisdiction :   Overland Park
Total Tax Rate:   8.65%

Tax Entities
State Of Kansas:   6.300%
Johnson County:   1.225%
City of Overland Park:   1.125%

Creditors. Asset. Not hard if you understand balance sheets. NOT INCOME.

Again .. try harder .. your fail is so fail its fucking failing at failing .. hard.

548  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:54:45 PM
I am not really clear on what it is you were implying

And you never will be. You could get 1000 posts in a day and you would still not understand a thing.

K9 - so assuming you have been following and read the posts in this thread from the beginning - are you defending xian's actions towards BFL?

[EDIT] and do you think it wise he blew away $15k by bitching when he could have sold his 2012 pre-order (for 5 x what he paid).

With hindsight, of course he should have sold his units. I personally never thought BFL would stoop to canceling the orders of angry customers. Especially the ones from June/July of 2012. I *think* BFL has the right to refund any of the pre-orders, should they wish to do so. On the other hand, that might open them up to legal issues if they don't deliver on a significant chunk of their pre-orders. I have already posted the relevant sections of Missouri law they are in violation of. It seems to be a pretty powerful statute.

It is pretty clear Xian could have gotten more than just his refund had he sold his orders on these forums. He has also been a bit strident about it, his spelling and grammar have been mediocre as well. However, he is righteously pissed, and I am not at my literary best when I am upset either. Still, his actions in this thread leave a lot of room for improvement.  Wink

I take your point that forcing a cancellation from an angry customer is bad - and I think unprecedented for BFL - if it is unprecedented which I think it is - does that not make you think how bad this guys rants must have been...

I have a personal opinion about this .. but lets put that aside. 

What I find fascinating is that he perpetuates the same behaviour and then is surprised that the result is what it was and then echos the reason it happened as a reason about why it shouldn't have happened.
549  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:31:06 PM
I am not really clear on what it is you were implying

And you never will be. You could get 1000 posts in a day and you would still not understand a thing.

So you refuse to articulate the bet, but continue to talk shit. I see.

You don't understand anything I articulate, remember?  So dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Maecenas lacinia lacinia molestie. Maecenas porttitor consectetur nulla non pretium. Mauris at risus ut leo luctus eleifend.

Sorry I am a noob.. I don't understand .. throw a dog a bone..

Umm .. I believe we were discussing a bet ... you still talking shit .. or is your money where you mouth isn't ?
550  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:28:39 PM
A more apt analogy:
You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...
Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...
Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.
in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

Except that I paid a lot of money to attend the club grand opening a year ago, and they threw me out for complaining about the lack of drinks and music when the DJ was laughing at all of us for paying the cover charge.


They threw  you out and said, "Go home xian you are drunk!"

I like that too...

The trouble is that xian can no longer respond to you, seeing as he stated he is 'ignoring' you. Although he did previously state that he added me to his 'ignore' list - but later replied anyway, so you might get lucky...
yeah but the best part is he see you quoting me Smiley so what did that tool really accomplish?

No he wont see my posts because he has 'apparently' marked me as 'ignored' too - so we are safe

damn it somebody quote this so Xian has to see it!!!

Quoted without prejudice.
551  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:25:06 PM
I am not really clear on what it is you were implying

And you never will be. You could get 1000 posts in a day and you would still not understand a thing.

So you refuse to articulate the bet, but continue to talk shit. I see.
552  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:22:21 PM


The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.
Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

-----------------

The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.

Your fascination with the word distorted is noted. You have used it at least once in last few posts. You also mentioned NLP a little while back. I am sure there is a link here somewhere... help me figure it out.

I hope you arent fixing hard drives today :
https://plus.google.com/104100515304524528467/about?gl=us&hl=en

Did you get my postcards?

oh shit .. did I let the cat out the bag .. fuck .. ooopss

553  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 11:09:24 PM
I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under  Grin

You want to bet on that?

<EDIT> I don't understand because you don't make any fucking sense..  


Go put a bet on a bitcoin betting site. I don't do anything without escrow that involves people who only have posts dated from today.  Cheesy
Of course I don't make sense to you. Nothing I type will ever make sense to you.

Let us first discuss the terms since I am not really clear on what it is you were implying.. (NOTE IT IS YOU THAT IS SAYING IT .. NOT ME )
But I see there is a bet here somewhere .. please articulate it as best you can.. I am happy to put up 10BTC..

554  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 10:59:42 PM
I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under  Grin

You want to bet on that?

<EDIT> I don't understand because you don't make any fucking sense.. 


Go put a bet on a bitcoin betting site. I don't do anything without escrow that involves people who only have posts dated from today.  Cheesy
Of course I don't make sense to you. Nothing I type will ever make sense to you.

So you ignore the underlying problem with your logic and continue to address the fact that I decided to call bullshit today. I see.

Nothing you type will make sense because it doesn't make sense.
555  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
You are ignoring one thing...

Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't have to answer but I'd be interested...

No. I do mine, but I am not currently using Avalon, ASICMiner or BFL.

I should thank BFL for sucking up all the capital that would have gone to either Avalon or ASICMiner. That capital would have been converted to hashing equipment sooner and impacted the network hash rate (and thus my profits) sooner. BFL has put money in my pocket by being so late.
Amen, I keep telling people that BFL reps are a secret fans of Avalon. They are probably just shy.

If only you actually had one PL. Am I right <wink> !?
556  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
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Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.
Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.
All of your 15 posts in one day. Very impressive.
How long will this one last? A week? A month?
I am sorry I missed your point ? I think you lost yourself in your noob rage ..

Ivan, you have no right calling anyone a noob here considering your low post count.  I thought you were smarter than you are letting on. I'm sorry to see you have drank so much of BFLs koolaid Sad


Logic fail. Who did I call a noob?  and who is Ivan?
557  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 09:59:25 PM
I am sorry I missed your point

Yep. I don't expect you to understand anything.

Over under on when int03h vanishes into the setting sun: 18 days.

I'll take the under  Grin

You want to bet on that?

<EDIT> I don't understand because you don't make any fucking sense.. 
558  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 09:56:30 PM
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Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.

All of your 15 posts in one day. Very impressive.
How long will this one last? A week? A month?


I am sorry I missed your point ? I think you lost yourself in your noob rage ..
559  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 09:52:52 PM
So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - you behave like a dick. You get thrown out - NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault somehow?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

How am I the one that is deaf or blind?

I have made no claims except for pointing out that you use false equivalency to prove some bullshit logic that doesn't make any sense at all.

Except you didn't, it wasn't, you haven't, I have, it does. Now run along and play.

Right I didnt, You did and continue to. do you get any better at this . .or is this it ? 
560  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders on: May 25, 2013, 09:51:29 PM
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Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

Lol .. calling a noob a noob..  you must feel so much better about yourself now.

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