One advantage? And why do I need to choose you when there are cosmos and aion too?
Have a ganger at the business WP: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fzSFWq0Gon67tXza0Irb9p7hZMT4gMRbIt completely spells out the strength and weaknesses of its various competitors including Azure, AWS, Chainlink and those two you've mentioned. It also outlines how MESG stacks up against them and how it will be pursuing its ambitions |
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Is this token running from the Waves blockchain just like an ERC20 coin from the Ethereum network?
It is a scam. With that out of the way, the project presented itself as a fork of waves - the same way ETCVC presented itself as a fork of ETC and then asked people to submit their private key before draining victim's funds and bolting into the night. Wavesx is also now asking people for their seed words... that wouldn't have been a cause for alarm if not the fact that there are eerie similarities in both ETCVC and WavesX design, appearance, the absence of team info, and pattern of response too. Add the presence of a large number of the accounts that shilled ETCVC shilling this too and you've got a grand slam |
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And in now scammy news. Their admin "John" has not only left his administrative duty, but he has also left the channel completely. Nice curtain call. Now, to start calling out those suspect accounts...
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I've known the founder for years. I think it's a reliable and great team, and this team really does well.
Thanks for endorsing the founder and vouching for their integrity based on your interpersonal relationship with them. Unfortunately, nobody here knows you from Adam and you're just as faceless as everybody else. So, how do we interpret your vouching again? I've also known Satoshi Nakamoto for years now. We had KFC |
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SubiDesktop Beta!
29 December 2018
I have sent messages to everyone with instructions on how to download the Beta, if I have missed you please send me another message if you are interested in joining the Beta!
Once there has been enough testing and we are happy that there are no wallet breaking bugs we will release to the public!
Message me if you are interested in joining the Beta
I've tested the Subi Desktop Beta. It's pretty cool. Really liked the interface. Nice work Subi Team!  More like "good job on ripping off work by Particl Project" ( https://particl.io). This is incredibly shameless copy-paste of Particl code and website, without even slightest mention. Great job! https://particl.io/assets/img/intro-carousel/wallet-staking-compressed.pngEDIT: Just a friendly note for devs - you're also breaching Particl licence: https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/c84d9e8b-95e0-43f6-ac28-0c04cc6f2edb.pngThe Subi project impresses with its endless possibilities, and the most tempting thing is that users can create passive income! But I did not fully understand what technology the project is based on?
As mentioned above, it's all based on Particl Project (minus the DEX). the similarities are way too obvious to be coincidental. We're either dealing with a severe lack of imagination or... Either way, this raises so many shades of questions and none of them the least palatable. Forks are as common as sand on a beach in this industry, but not acknowledging the original and presenting the clone as "NEW" does not speak well about the team's true intention and capability - or lack of in this case |
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Hubris.
That's what went wrong with this project. Crypto seems to be shattering all records and all the playbook and you just couldn't misstep. But even by the idiotic standards of those days, that PR stunt was one step too far.
Almost pretty sure they held on to the ETH raised till over half the value was lost on the market too.
Redemption for this project will involve digging in deep to anticipate market direction and the wants from that direction. PR can only get one that far...
Hi! The PR stunt we pulled off was a blunt one - but we have explained ourselves and learnt the lesson. Once again, we apologise to everyone who was affected by it in a negative way. As for the currency conversion: you are right, there was no need to convert any cryptocurrencies into FIAT yet, we have risk management in place and we'll make that decision when we know the time is right. Last but not least, our new crypto app is almost ready for the release, it's packed with awesome features and we can't wait to share it with the broad public Wasn't actually expecting such posts to receive a response, talk more of an admission. There's been a lot of missteps in the industry, but very few startups are ever willing to admit they screwed up. You now have my interest. Any sneak peek at the awesome features the app will be spotting |
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The most important thing is that the Waves X project is unnecessary to invest, you are given coins for free, this fact is worth noting.
Of course, you are given coins for free, but you have to give them the seed words of a wallet that existed BEFORE THE FORK to claim this FORK. This wallet also has to be holding WAVES for you to receive this fork, so technically, it's not as free as you make it seem because we'll have to acquire waves somehow first. And as soon as you give them your seed word, bye bye WAVES. This fact is worth noting too. Totally agree with you.  It is a pity that many people do not understand this. Greed and stupidity have taken over the world. The thirst for easy money kills people's logical thinking. It's a crying shame there's no known antidote for either greed or stupidity. On the other hand, doubt these folks who rather prefer to keep deluding themselves. Hence the reason why I rarely have any sympathy for scam victims. Majority are victims of their own greedy makings and experience remains the best teacher, after all, the messenger is always the one that gets shot first. |
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Fork is the easiest way to scam the community and collect the data of private key and steal their hard earned money. The team is under the shadow so there are so many concerns from the community about the future of this project definitely it looking like another scam.
It will be necessary to learn the project in more detail. But perhaps it is worth listening to your opinion. listen to only your opinion, I have personal experience caught in a Scam, the best guide is yourself. Everyone makes their choice, in any project no one forces you to invest, and it has always been so The most important thing is that the Waves X project is unnecessary to invest, you are given coins for free, this fact is worth noting. Of course, you are given coins for free, but you have to give them the seed words of a wallet that existed BEFORE THE FORK to claim this FORK. This wallet also has to be holding WAVES for you to receive this fork, so technically, it's not as free as you make it seem because we'll have to acquire waves somehow first. And as soon as you give them your seed word, bye bye WAVES. This fact is worth noting too. This fact cannot be ruled out, I agree, there are risks in any project, but everything will be possible, suddenly the team really wants a normal project. This fact cannot be ruled out, I agree, there are risks in any project, but everything will be possible, suddenly the team really wants a normal project. And suddenly, you speak for the team and somehow know that they now want a "NORMAL" project. Based on that illuminating response, we can now agree that team started with an "ABNORMAL" project. Wonder where the "suddenly" came from |
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Fork is the easiest way to scam the community and collect the data of private key and steal their hard earned money. The team is under the shadow so there are so many concerns from the community about the future of this project definitely it looking like another scam.
It will be necessary to learn the project in more detail. But perhaps it is worth listening to your opinion. listen to only your opinion, I have personal experience caught in a Scam, the best guide is yourself. Everyone makes their choice, in any project no one forces you to invest, and it has always been so The most important thing is that the Waves X project is unnecessary to invest, you are given coins for free, this fact is worth noting. Of course, you are given coins for free, but you have to give them the seed words of a wallet that existed BEFORE THE FORK to claim this FORK. This wallet also has to be holding WAVES for you to receive this fork, so technically, it's not as free as you make it seem because we'll have to acquire waves somehow first. And as soon as you give them your seed word, bye bye WAVES. This fact is worth noting too. |
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Sadly And I just wanted to take part. but now probably will not. Let's see what will happen
I can't understand what the risk is? You invest in Waves and get WVSX coins for free. Maybe I do not understand?
are you one of their shills or really this naive?
THEY ARE TRYING TO LURE NOOBS INTO SUBMITTING THEIR WAVES PASSPHRASE YOU IDIOT!!!!
Based on his post history, would lean move towards naivety, but he sure does seem to have a thing for shady threads. Makes you wonder if it's the get-rich-quick syndrome or there's a deeply rooted conspiracy at play here with some of these shillicious accounts I do not think that this is a conspiracy, you can just keep an eye on everything, because nobody forces you to invest in a project, who wants to do it You're stupid or what? This is NOT AN INVESTMENT. It's a FORK! But to claim the FORK, you need to give them YOUR PRIVATE KEY. Giving them YOUR PRIVATE KEY means anybody can DO ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO WITH YOUR WALLET, including DRAINING EVERYTHING INSIDE. Now go ahead and give me your private key, Mr. Investor. Amazing! Just when you thought you've seen the depth of it all Also seen that most of you guys have a thing for BiteBTC... beginning to see a pattern here How is this not a SCAM is completely beyond me? The wallet client is asking for the seed words users used to create their waves wallet:  And look at all that typo. You'd think professionals would care about language and presentation. Their telegram channel also confirms that they are asking for seed words. |
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Sadly And I just wanted to take part. but now probably will not. Let's see what will happen
I can't understand what the risk is? You invest in Waves and get WVSX coins for free. Maybe I do not understand?
are you one of their shills or really this naive?
THEY ARE TRYING TO LURE NOOBS INTO SUBMITTING THEIR WAVES PASSPHRASE YOU IDIOT!!!!
Based on his post history, would lean move towards naivety, but he sure does seem to have a thing for shady threads. Makes you wonder if it's the get-rich-quick syndrome or there's a deeply rooted conspiracy at play here with some of these shillicious accounts I do not think that this is a conspiracy, you can just keep an eye on everything, because nobody forces you to invest in a project, who wants to do it You're stupid or what? This is NOT AN INVESTMENT. It's a FORK! But to claim the FORK, you need to give them YOUR PRIVATE KEY. Giving them YOUR PRIVATE KEY means anybody can DO ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO WITH YOUR WALLET, including DRAINING EVERYTHING INSIDE. Now go ahead and give me your private key, Mr. Investor. Amazing! Just when you thought you've seen the depth of it all Also seen that most of you guys have a thing for BiteBTC... beginning to see a pattern here |
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Sadly And I just wanted to take part. but now probably will not. Let's see what will happen
I can't understand what the risk is? You invest in Waves and get WVSX coins for free. Maybe I do not understand?
are you one of their shills or really this naive?
THEY ARE TRYING TO LURE NOOBS INTO SUBMITTING THEIR WAVES PASSPHRASE YOU IDIOT!!!!
Based on his post history, would lean move towards naivety, but he sure does seem to have a thing for shady threads. Makes you wonder if it's the get-rich-quick syndrome or there's a deeply rooted conspiracy at play here with some of these shillicious accounts |
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Shots fired. The scam is on. Let the parting of fools from their funds begin. Nice thing these guys have moved from fake ICOs to fake forks now. The number of forks was starting to get extremely ridiculous. With these guys prowling the industry now, folks are gonna start taking long and hard looks at forks now. Btw, got tissues and very nice "told ya"s waiting on this end |
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This must be the surprise of the year. Thought this project had gone to ground and disappeared off the surface of the blockchain like so many other attempts at corporate blockchain solution. Surprised to see it's still moving forward
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Looks like these scammers have upped their game a notch by bringing in the bots/threadbumpers to try and get to project under as many eyeballs as possible.
Sad truth is some people will still fall for it... a fool and his money are easily parted though
You are right, there are certain risks. If you think globally, any investment contains certain risks. And no one knows how much a person risks his money, now on the market more than half of the projects simply do not live to the end Yeah, invested all the money, and then the project burst like a bubble along with your investment.  An investment is different from a scam, bozo. An investment may fail to realize its vision and go burst, hence the risk. A scam on the other hand has no other intention that to exit with your funds. Of course you may argue that this is free, it's just a fork. But when the fork mimics the MO of another scam (nobody knows the team and they don't seem to be bothered with addressing concerns), you have a recipe for disaster. However, feel free to give them the seed phrase to you waves wallet when they come asking for it... unless you're in on the jig already |
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Looks like these scammers have upped their game a notch by bringing in the bots/threadbumpers to try and get to project under as many eyeballs as possible.
Sad truth is some people will still fall for it... a fool and his money are easily parted though
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Got the token price off their telegram channel:
"The token price is $0.40"
But it was written here that the price is expected to be 0.04$. Who to believe? Think it's very easier to add or omit a zero - which can also make or break any deal. However, $0.4 is what I got off the telegram channel from one of the admin here: https://t.me/mesg_community/987 Considering the supply vs valuation of existing blockchain competitors, I'm more inclined to accept the $0.4 per token price 40 cents is a big enough starting price, 4 I liked more. Don't we all? Everybody wants to buy the floor and reap the moon. Guess it's time to hop in on the telegram channel and find out what the real price is once and for all.... And now, remembering that line about "private sale", 0.4 does look more likely |
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rip nullex
Nah, not rip. Trystan claims he's gonna continue the Nullex brand, while Eric and co are gonna create a crypto that NLX holders can swap for and more inline with the Nullex spirit. Question for most is choosing between brand name or spiritual successor. No point getting stuck in the past for me Clealry u didnt read wats erics camp been posting.... but most legend's in bitcointalk arnt REAL crypto legends  im not swapping Shit, eric camp proved there unworth the moment they posted that crap... clearly ur part of erics camp and trying to get people to jump ship... Go jump dw most REAL legends of crypto. da ja Stabycroc ;_)> You probably should reread the post again. And I don't claim to be a crypto legend nor care about account ages. However, when someone gets on the defensive and immediately start branding folks as part of the "opposition camp" and up to some sort of agenda, it immediately becomes apparent what they really are. Thanks for the comment and the branding though. Didn't consult you when I threw funds at the project nor asked you to fund it, not consulting you whether to hold or swap too. Thanks for the concern though. You're a real legend |
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Got the token price off their telegram channel:
"The token price is $0.40"
But it was written here that the price is expected to be 0.04$. Who to believe? Think it's very easier to add or omit a zero - which can also make or break any deal. However, $0.4 is what I got off the telegram channel from one of the admin here: https://t.me/mesg_community/987 Considering the supply vs valuation of existing blockchain competitors, I'm more inclined to accept the $0.4 per token price |
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